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[opensuse-wiki] Fwd: HCL Week
by Rajko M. 08 Jun '11

08 Jun '11

There is proposal from Forum guys about HCL. ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Subject: HCL Week Date: Sunday, May 29, 2011, 05:10:25 PM From: Dean Martin <deano_ferrari(a)hotmail.com> To: rajko(a)opensuse.org Hi The moderators at openSUSE forums are currently discussing an idea to promote 'Update HCL Week' in an effort to encourage as many members as possible to participate with adding (or updating) as much hardware info as possible. What is the Wiki team's thoughts about this? No date set yet, but I'd like to see an announcement or banner in the forums when date has been set etc Cheers, Dean Member: deano_ferrari ----------------------------------------- I can't take on that alone, as it requires a bit of thought what to do, and I have not much time left. It is opportunity clean up HCL, setup new layout, etc. -- Regards, Rajko -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] PING (preferred term in German ?) - IS: [opensuse-wiki-de] Repository/Repositorys oder Depot/Depots oder ... : Welche Bezeichnung vorzugsweise (in Artikelnamen und meist im Text)?
by pistazienfresser (see profile) 23 May '11

23 May '11

Liebe Benutzer und Macher von openSUSE, mag noch jemand anders zu der Diskussion zu dem Thema etwas beitragen, wie ein Verzeichnis für Softwarepakete und Metadaten - auf Englisch in openSUSE: repository, pl.: repositories - im neuen deutschsprachigen openSUSE-Wiki genannt werden sollte? Dies bezieht sich auf die Bezeichnung, die in Artikelnamen (außer Weiterleitungen) und meist im Text (außer in Einleitungen) benutzt werden soll. Bei Interesse wäre es schön, wenn Ihr die folgende Diskussionsseite besuchen könntet: http://dewiki.opensuse.org/Diskussion:Paket_Repositories (bis Ende Montag). Dear users and makers of openSUSE, does someone else like also to contribute to the discussion on the matter how a directory for software packages and metadata - in English in openSUSE: repository, pl.: repositories - should be named in the new openSUSE-Wiki for German language? This is referring on the term that should be used in names of articles (apart from redirects) and in the text (apart from introductions). In case you are interested it would be nice if you would visit the following discussion page/talk page: http://dewiki.opensuse.org/Diskussion:Paket_Repositories (until the end of Monday). Have a lot of fun Martin (pistazienfresser) -- - Martin Seidler - openSUSE profile: https://users.opensuse.org/show/pistazienfresser -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] DEWIKI: 4 MB limit in the new German wiki to low for importing ''Product highlights" from EN-Wiki (ca. 12 MB)
by pistazienfresser 19 May '11

19 May '11

Hello, would somebody with the according privileges (and knowledge) please increase the server limit for http://dewiki.opensuse.org/Spezial:Importieren (at least for some time)? OR himself/herself (export and) import the article on http://en.opensuse.org/Product_highlights to http://dewiki.opensuse.org/Product_highlights with history and authors? I achieved to download a file (hopefully the article with history). But as my system says that this are 12,0 MB (12583039 Bytes) - the file seems to be too big (I tried the upload/import anyhow - but without success...) See also: http://dewiki.opensuse.org/Hilfe:Todo#Seiten http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-wiki-de/2011-05/msg00073.html http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-wiki/2010-08/msg00063.html Regards Martin (pistazienfresser) -- -- - Martin Seidler - openSUSE profile: https://users.opensuse.org/show/pistazienfresser -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] better Wiki editor
by Christian Boltz 17 May '11

17 May '11

Hello, I'd like to propose to install the "WikiEditor" extension from the MediaWiki Usability Initiative. "WikiEditor" is currently used on Wikipedia - edit any page there to see it in action. Compared to the currently used editor, it has several additional features: - dialog to link to other pages with auto-completion - formatting toolbar (for headlines, bullet items etc.) - a list of special characters (clickable to insert them) - included help for the most important wikitext formattings Opinions? BTW: If needed, I can give some advice how to install this extension. However, it shouldn't be needed - it's quite easy to install ;-) Regards, Christian Boltz -- Nichts its gefährlicher als sich in Gefahr zu begeben. das merkst du spätestens dann, wenn du sein erstes Posting ins Usernetz losgelassen hast. [WoKo in dag°] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] CategorySelect extension
by Christian Boltz 17 May '11

17 May '11

Hello, another proposal for an extension - however this one has not only pros, but also some cons. The extension I'm proposing is CategorySelect - basically a category tree in the edit mode to select the categories an article is in (see attached screenshot). Pro / features: - easy selection of categories - categories are listed as tree view - this means that users can select the best-matching sub-category instead of a generic main category easily - category tree can be collapsed and expanded (number of open levels at page load is a config option) - root category can be specified for each namespace Con: - [[Category:whatever]] is stripped from the wikitext editor (but you can still type [[Category:foobar]] to add a category) - opening of the subcategory notes doesn't work in Konqueror :-( Probably a javascript issue, I didn't have time to debug it yet. (It's not a real issue in the wiki where I'm using this extension (no Konqueror users there), but it might be a major issue in the openSUSE wiki.) Note: We had an older version of this extension installed for some time, but it was disabled again because it did not have the collapsable subcategories (which resulted in a long list to scroll). Regarding installation: I have two patches to fix two small bugs (also submitted to the MediaWiki bugzilla - one of them was submitted to SVN trunk already, but not to the 1.16 branch). If we decide to use this extension, I'll provide the details of the bugs and the patches I'm using. Regards, Christian Boltz -- TikiWiki ist eine sehr umfassende Sammlung von Sicherheitslücken, konzeptuellen Problemen und Performancekillern, die alles kann und nichts richtig. [Kristian Köhntopp auf http://blog.koehntopp.de/archives/2051-5-Jahre-Blogging.html]

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[opensuse-wiki] MediaWiki:GoogleSearch
by Andrey Karepin 12 May '11

12 May '11

How to adjust usage of search MediaWiki:GoogleSearch? Now by search through google in ru.opensuse.org search it is produced on en.opensuse.org [1]. Whether also it is possible to get somehow access to adjustments of this mechanism for transfer of elements of the interface (button Search)? 1. http://ru.opensuse.org/Справка:Поиск -- Friendly openSUSE Community -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] join with the wiki team
by Buddhika Chandradeepa Kurera 12 May '11

12 May '11

Hello Folks, I am Buddhika from Sri Lanka. I joined with the wiki teams. Please be KIT. Looking forward to work with you all. c ya -- Regards, Buddhike Chandradeepa Kurera openSUSE Ambassador - Sri Lanka -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] Template:Point_here (was: Re: [opensuse-web] incomplete tumbleweed instructions)
by Christian Boltz 04 May '11

04 May '11

Hello, @wiki team: this mail includes a proposal for a major change for Template:Point_here to fix a display bug (hidden content). (Sorry for switching mailinglists again, but this is something I have to bring up on the -wiki mailinglist.) on Dienstag, 3. Mai 2011, Felix Miata wrote: > picture worth many words: > http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/opensusedotorg-too-narrow.jpg > But, what about new people not > fully knowledgeable about overcoming dumb web page design? Why do > web page designers insist on arbitrary widths that can't hold their > content, and don't allow overflow to be accessible? I just checked this. <pre> already has overflow:auto (which means it gets scrollbars if needed). The problem is the <table style="width:98%;"> (icon + text right of it) which is wider than the <div> around. Additionally, the <div> around the table uses <div style="overflow:hidden; [...]"> Changing it to "overflow:auto;" adds a scrollbar - it looks quite ugly, but at least works ;-) Nevertheless, it isn't the best solution. The overflow:hidden comes from http://en.opensuse.org/Template:Point_here which us used on all portals. I played around a bit, and IMHO this is at least some strange behaviour: The <pre> can widen the <td> around it - even if the parent element has a width restriction set :-/ I'm not sure if this is valid behaviour or a browser bug - but then it would be a bug in (at least) Firefox and Konqueror. The good news: I can offer a fully working solution (with the scrollbar only at the <pre>), but it requires a full rewrite of Template:Point_here. On the positive side, we would get rid of the table layout ;-) Instead of the table, use the following code: <div style="overflow:hidden; margin:.2em;"> <div style="margin-left:15px; width: 48px; float:left;">  <a href="/index.php?title=File:Icon-package.png&filetimestamp=20100615144104" class="image"><img height="48" width="48" alt="Icon- package.png" src="/images/thumb/3/39/Icon-package.png/48px-Icon-package.png"></a>  </div><div style="margin-left:70px; border-left:1px solid #babdb6; padding-left:.5em; padding-top:1px;">   <p><b>How to try Tumbleweed?</b> </p><p><br> </p> <ul><li> Add Tumbleweed to your YaST or zypper installation repositories and enable autorefresh: </li></ul> <pre>zypper ar --refresh \ http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/Tumbleweed/standard/ \ Tumbleweed </pre> <ul><li> Do a distro update from Tumbleweed as needed. The first time you will need to accept the GPG key: </li></ul> <pre>zypper dup --from Tumbleweed </pre>  </div> <div style="clear:left"></div>  </div> I did not count pixels ;-) but it looks about the same as the table-based version - with the advantage that <pre> gets scrollbars if needed :-) @Wiki team: The Point_here template is used on every portal page, which also means changing it could break a lot of pages ;-) Therefore I'm asking first: - Are you ok with changing the Point_here template to the code listed above? - Are there any side effects or "special" portal pages I should be aware of? Regards, Christian Boltz -- XSLT ist eine Art awk auf Bäumen und hat alle Nachteile von awk. Wenn man vorher nur Shell konnte, ist es allerdings die Erleuchtung. [Kristian Köhntopp in suse-linux-faq] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] Re: [opensuse-marketing] New URLs for Marketing
by Henne Vogelsang 02 May '11

02 May '11

Hey, On 27.04.2011 20:17, James Mason wrote: > On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 2:53 AM, Henne Vogelsang<hvogel(a)opensuse.org> wrote: >> On 04/27/2011 04:12 AM, Bryen M. Yunashko wrote: >> >>> We have some useful >> >> Uhm.... I get it that you want shorter URLs but why do you circumvent >> the content separation in the wiki that is there for a reason? >> >> I would suggest that you point people in printing material to some >> general URL like en.opensuse.org or even www.opensuse.org and make sure >> that your content is discoverable in the wiki instead of re-introducing >> the mess we had in the old one. It makes little sense to invent tons and >> tons of URLs one has to remember to find content. >> >> For instance, how am I to get to the GNOME3 page if there are not links >> in the wiki to it. >> >> http://en.opensuse.org/Special:WhatLinksHere/openSUSE:GNOME_3.0 >> >> Fix things like this and make the wiki consistent instead of less >> consistent please. > > I am convinced that if Henne were weather he'd be a rain cloud... > hovering over a parade. Yeah I'd wish I wouldn't have to be :-/ But the wiki is developing into a real mood killer for everyone involved with it, including me. We have put in a lot of work to get things organized only to get yelled at and ignored. As you can see we're already on the way back into the dark ages where the wiki is only a undisciplined information dump. This not only hurts the people who came up with a nice concept but even more so our readers and therefor in turn the project. That troubles me indeed. Henne -- Henne Vogelsang, openSUSE. Everybody has a plan, until they get hit. - Mike Tyson -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] Farewell
by Matthew Ehle 02 May '11

02 May '11

Hello All, Today is my last official day as the openSUSE wiki system administrator. I wanted to write to this mailing list to express my appreciation for all of the wonderful people on the wiki team and for the work that they have done in improving the openSUSE community. There have been a number of challenges and disagreements along the way, and we still have a long way to go, but I feel that we have managed to come together in delivering a world-class knowledge solution for the community. The subject of this message is a little misleading, as this is not truly a farewell. I plan to continue on as a wiki contributor, and possibly even as a developer. I will also probably help out on the system administration side of things until the new engineer gets up to speed on the www and wiki architecture. Like many of you, I believe that openSUSE is the most solid (not to mention the best looking) Linux distribution out there, and I am proud to have been able to contribute to the project in my own small way. Thank you, -Matt

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