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@Translators for Wiki pages
As you may know, there was a shift of the Board members recently.
http://zonker.opensuse.org/2009/06/11/stephen-shawn-has-been-appointed-as-o…
In accordance with this, Board page on en.o.o. has been updated.
http://en.opensuse.org/Board
Here's a changelog.
Member:
- - Federico Mena-Quintero
+ Stephen Shaw
Past Board Members:
+ Federico Mena-Quintero
History:
2nd openSUSE Board
- - Pascal Bleser, Michael Loeffler (chairman), Federico Mena-Quintero,
Henne Vogelsang, Bryen Yunashko
+ Pascal Bleser, Michael Loeffler (chairman), Federico Mena-Quintero*,
Stephen Shaw, Henne Vogelsang, Bryen Yunashko
+ 'Note'
I want to see each translation will be updated reflecting this change
and, of course this page will be translated into $YOUR_LANG if not yet
translated. ;-)
Best,
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Hi,
as discussed on #opensuse-wiki (Freenode), I have started to methodically
checking all pages on en.opensuse.org by walking through
http://en.opensuse.org/Special:Allpages.
"Checking" means that every page (except redirects) that has been checked has
either been
* marked (as stub, outdated, to be merged, to be moved, ...)
* deleted
* or decalared OK (see my mail "RFC: Marking articles that have been "QA"'ed"
to this list)
The goal is to clean up the wiki and to find and mark all articles that are in
need of polishing.
Since I hope to find volunteers helping me with the task, I have also set up a
page listing all pages checked togethter with their status:
http://en.opensuse.org/Wiki_Team/Checked_Pages
This list also contains articles I have not checked - either because they are
written in a language I do not understand or because they deal with a topic on
which I am not fit enough to decide whether the article is still up-to-date or
not.
Help with the task would be very much appreciated - either by checking the
unchecked articles on http://en.opensuse.org/Wiki_Team/Checked_Pages
or by helping me going through the Allpages list. If you like to help, please
join the IRC channel #opensuse-wiki on Freenode - it's probably easier to
coordinate via IRC than via email.
My nick is FSundermeyer and you can usually find me there on Mo-Fr from 10:00
am to 6:00 pm CEST.
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There is number of translations that have never met minimum conditions for own
language wiki. What to do with them?
1) Wait until ambassador program picks up and then ask for assistance
2) Call for help on translation list
3) Go out and contact upstream translation projects like KDE/GNOME asking for
help
4) Take shortcut and delete all that is not touched for more then 1 year
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On Wednesday 10 June 2009 08:04:21 pm you wrote:
> Rajko,
>
> I think, you are missing the point! If someone like me (or anyone
> else) willing to contribute that opportunity needs to be given. We
> shouldn't base access decisions on size of a group. Even though I
> agree that to be sustainable in a long run group would be beneficial.
> Someone have to start!
Sure, but as mentioned we have to deal right now with few dead wikis, and we
were all thrilled when guys come up with wiki translations.
BTW, I'm far from discouraging anybody, just the opposite, which you would
know if you would read:
http://en.opensuse.org/OpenSUSE_Translation_Guidehttp://en.opensuse.org/OpenSUSE_Translation_Guide_detail
As you can see there is quite a few translations that hang in the limbo,
started and never finished:
http://en.opensuse.org/Category:Translations
> How can I ask Belarusian audience to contribute when we don't even
> have Belarusian page? I think, instead of looking for completeness of
> translation and a size of a group we need to give contributions
> ability to do what they can.
You can contribute using http://en.opensuse.org creating pages:
1) with prefix BE-Original English Title
2) templates Template:BE-Original English Template Name
> Anyway, what I was thinking is to give a start to Belarusian
> Localication Page, so people could be directed there. I've started
> translating yast/be .po files and in the process doing a video
> presentation where I planning to show where contributors could be
> directed. ( I can't send them to English Localization Page) It took me
> a while to figure out the details.
>
> Do you know who can help me with access rights?
No one can do that as Belarus wiki does not exist yet.
It is not automatic process, like just create copy of english wiki with new
language prefix and voila, we can translate.
That would be probably the best way, or at least the easiest, for both
translator and the openSUSE Wiki Team, but adding the server instance is a bit
more complicated. It requires technical resources, that are not endless, some
setup so that Internet users can find the server.
So, if you would like to translate openSUSE either, follow instructions in the
links I gave you for the wiki translations, or follow the idea with YaST.
I have to repeat that creating server is much easier then to shut down one.
Think of all links that people made to the pages on that server, that will
quit working the day you shut it down. With language related server, it can
and probably will have negative political connotations too, so please find few
guys that can share your ideas and start translating using instructions in
above links.
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How do I start publishing and editing on be.opensuse.org wiki?
Who can create Belarusian pages http://be.opensuse.org/ ?
Can someone help me to get this access to http://be.opensuse.org?
My novell login id is: Aleh_Zagorski.
Thanks,
Aleh
zagorski4u(a)gmail.com
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I'm starting Belarusian ( BE) translation of openSUSE wiki pages.
Actually, I'm finishing some of them:
* Welcome_to_openSUSE.org * How to Participate * Localication
How do start publishing and editing on opensuse.org wiki? Who can
create Belarusian pages http://be.opensuse.org/ ? Can you help me to
get this access?
My novell login id is: Aleh_Zagorski.
Also, is there any way we can include Belarus in statistic page here:
http://i18n.opensuse.org/stats/openSUSE-11.1/index.php I know that
I'm just starting but it is a very good visual tool for contributors.
Thanks,
Aleh
zagorski4u(a)gmail.com
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Kay gave few valid comments that can help us focus efforts to structure wiki,
so I forward the message to opensuse-wiki mail list as a base for discussion.
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Subject: Re: [opensuse-project] Meeting Minutes openSUSE Board Meeting, May 20
2009
Date: Monday 08 June 2009
From: Kay Schenk <kschenk(a)mail.csuchico.edu>
To: opensuse-project(a)opensuse.org
Hi. I am new to this project, have not yet read your archives, so I hope
you'll take my comments with a bit of patience, see below..
<snip>
Of, if by infrastructure you mean the website design, here are some
comments, for starters...
* I find the site, http://en.opensuse.org/Welcome_to_openSUSE.org
really unfriendly to "new" users.
* Before a user would want to download, it seems they would want to
know a LOT more about the product: features, software included, system
requirements, what hardware is supported, etc. Eventually, you CAN get
to this information, but it is very difficult. So, this initial page
needs work. I actually did think to edit it a while back, but with my
login, I couldn't. So???? I would really like to help with this, but
don't have the means to do it at the moment.
* I guess my point is what do you feel your audience is for this
first page? It seems mostly designed for people already familiar with
the project/product that simply want upgrades or something, not new users.
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I got task to see what we can do about language wikis that have no enough
maintainers, if any, for some time.
http://vi.opensuse.org/ is absolute champion - unmaintained for a year.
My proposal is to take it off line.
For the rest listed below we can look for maintainers.
http://is.opensuse.org/ last change was on 12. jan. 2009
http://tr.opensuse.org/ last change was on 2. april 2009 (user question)
The 2 below are not very active, but nothing like previous:
http://hu.opensuse.org/ need few more hands. Last changes are minor edits on
Weekly news, issue 74 (current 75).
http://cs.opensuse.org/ there is 1 change in last 30 days.
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Hi,
in the wake of the Community Week there has been some activity on #opensuse-
wiki (on Freenode) and people have volunteered to quality check existing
articles (find duplicates, stubs, obsolete/outdates articles, suggest
mergers,...).
While objectionable articles will get marked by respective templates, there is
no way to tell whether an article a reviewer considered to be OK has been
checked or not.
Therefore I would suggest to mark articles with
http://en.opensuse.org/Template:Contentcheck. If called with
{{Contentcheck|~~~~}} it will add the following line to the article:
Passed QA check: <LOGIN OF REVIEWER> 11:33, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
and will add the page to
http://en.opensuse.org/Category:Contentcheck
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To all,
Recently we revived opensuse-wiki IRC channel where we can talk in real time
about openSUSE wiki problems and solutions and we would like that readers of
this list join us.
The advantage is that you can ask wiki editors and get answers instantly.
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