May 2007 - openSUSE Wiki - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[opensuse-wiki] New wiki skin - help/feedback needed
by Frank Sundermeyer 12 Jun '07

12 Jun '07

Hi, I finally managed to get the new skin working! Adrian and Darix set up a test server, so you can test it under almost real-life terms! http://en.test.opensuse.org/ The skin was completely written from scratch, so it is no longer based on MonoBook or other existing MediaWiki styles. This made the skin development a bit picky, because there is no longer a Fallback css (like MonoBook) that covers styles not in the openSUSE css. This is where I need your help - please test all Special pages on the wiki you can think of, generate and apply templates, upload files ... in short stress-test the skin and tell me what I have missed. To make it easier for you, I have already put together some pages showcasing tag formatting, structural and content elements as well as links to the most commonly used Special pages. Two pages are of special interest: Styles Not Defined Yet: This is a list of styles MediaWiki generates that I have not covered, yet, because I wasn't able to find out on which pages they are used. Maybe you can help me here. Content Elements: I am planning to add useful classes to the CSS, like the command-line style (.shell). Please add whatever you find useful to this page (with inline css) and discuss them on this list. I will add the ones we all agree upon. The "this page in other languages" stuff is currently not working - I hope to be able to fix this soon. If a page exists in other languages, you will either see a drop down box in the gray page header (where the edit, discussion links are) - requires JavaScript - or an additional box in the left nav when JavaScript is disabled. Thanks for all your feedback in advance! Don't expect to hear from me until Thursday, 31 - I will be online very rarely until then. -- Regards Frank Frank Sundermeyer, Technical Writer, Documentation SUSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, D-90409 Nuernberg Tel: +49-911-74053-0, Fax: +49-911-7417755; http://www.opensuse.org/ SUSE Linux Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nuernberg) "Reality is always controlled by the people who are most insane" Dogbert --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] openSUSE wiki translations
by Rajko M. 05 Jun '07

05 Jun '07

In another thread Christian Boltz mentioned: > I'd also like to propose a wiki for new translations (that don't have an > own wiki yet) to keep them out of the english wiki. Agree. Also, I was thinking how to make wiki translation process easier. Recently I become helper to guy that wants to translate wiki, but looking what has to be translated and whole process I learned that is not easy. The whole process needs serious simplification, to make it more popular. Besides it should allow translations from one of wiki languages to new one. Separate server will give more room for translations alone and make possible, for instance, to create set of pages that have to be translated like LANG-Page_to_translate with all links included and then when translator announce that he wants to translate just replace LANG with language code. Of course this is just initial idea that needs first of all separate server, than it can be developed. -- Regards, Rajko. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] litigious account
by jdd 22 May '07

22 May '07

Hello :-) What do you think of personal page with onlu advertisements? http://fr.opensuse.org/Utilisateur:AFORSYS (no other page written)? jdd (sysop) -- http://www.dodin.net http://gourmandises.orangeblog.fr/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] New Download Page
by Frank Sundermeyer 21 May '07

21 May '07

Hi, it's been a long time since you have last heard about the openSUSE.org redesigning efforts. Robert and I have been busy with it the last few weeks and we would like to present you the first milestone we have reached: a new and improved download page which will be hosted on download.opensuse.org: http://www.suse.de/~fs/opensuse/download/ We got a lot of feedback from users who were confused by the existing download page, so we decided to use JavaScript to make the page interactive. For users having deactivated JavaScript the old download interface will still be present. Please let us know what you think about the page and if and where you see room for improvement. -- Thanks a lot Frank Frank Sundermeyer, Technical Writer, Documentation SUSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, D-90409 Nuernberg Tel: +49-911-74053-0, Fax: +49-911-7417755; http://www.opensuse.org/ SUSE Linux Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nuernberg) "Reality is always controlled by the people who are most insane" Dogbert --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] "Related Changes"
by Jonathan Arnold 21 May '07

21 May '07

The toolbar on the left of the English language wiki says "Related Changes". I think it should be "Recent Changes". -- Jonathan Arnold (mailto:jdarnold@buddydog.org) Daemon Dancing in the Dark, an Open OS weblog: http://freebsd.amazingdev.com/blog/ UNIX is user-friendly. It's just a bit picky about who its friends are. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] Support database SDB in openSUSE wiki
by Rajko M. 20 May '07

20 May '07

Today I found one article http://en.opensuse.org/Installation_without_CD moved to SDB, as it was tagged with template http://en.opensuse.org/Template:Movetosdb I copied article back to original location leaving the one in SDB untouched, and changed template a bit, to temporary fix the wording. That brought me to think about the purpose of SDB. It was one time when Support Database was source of many solutions that helped us, and inclusion in openSUSE wiki was great present from SUSE. While SDB is better organized there is no many authors that write for it and even those that do don't look often in http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Howto as rules are adding complexity to those for writing ordinary articles. My question is;"How to define the purpose of SDB?" At the moment it is more like archive of solutions for previous SUSE releases. It is very little added since it was included in openSUSE. Should we maintain that status, and ask contributors to write normal articles in main space and when time passes and new release comes out move/copy those in the SDB structure. What I like is time view "history" and structure of categories: http://en.opensuse.org/Category:SDB and that is how we can attempt to structure main namespace of wiki. -- Regards, Rajko. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-wiki] Support database SDB in openSUSE wiki
by Rajko M. 11 May '07

11 May '07

On Thursday 10 May 2007 23:14, shuLhan wrote: > sorry about that, i'm just want to help. > so i fix the pages that the wiki-team said "Pages to Cleanup". > yes, that pages was tagged with template "movestoSDB" and "need to > formating for SDB" (or something like that) > > sorry. > > (maybe for another time a will ask first in this mailing list) I appreciate any help around wiki and you are welcome to continue. You did what tag said, but the problem was tag itself. It said "move" and you did it. I think it was meant somewhat different, but without clear instructions how to do that. It triggered my interest to see what to do with SDB. It exists as separate entity within wiki without special purpose, defined goal, people that take care of it, search function, as it was once original Support DB, that was for me very helpful resource. There is no need to ask on this list, except if it is something big that will influence a lot of people, like rules that will be applicable to whole wiki. Cleaning wiki according to the tags is more or less standard editorial job that you don't need to ask. More important is to see now when to tag articles to be included in SDB, and how actually to do that. Do we want to follow SDB:<name of article> naming with additional invisible tags for sorting and keywords, or to use existing category SDB and simply put article of certain quality in that category. More I look into, more I like category structure of SDB. -- Regards, Rajko. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] Headings
by Martin Schlander 11 May '07

11 May '07

A few weeks ago Rajko came up with a proposal for a new layout for == headings. While that proposal may not have been perfect - I absolutely agree that it's a big problem for the reader friendliness of our wiki that "== headings" are less dominant than "=== headings". I think something must be done about this, can someone look into it? Maybe making "==" bold - or increasing the font size, or make "===" not bold - or something. I really don't care much about how it's done - as long as the "==" stand out more than "===". See for example: http://en.opensuse.org/Documentation Even with underlining of "==" - the "===" ('User feedback', 'Errata') stand out more. I think it's really unfriendly for readers and make our pages seem un-structured and messy. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] New Download Page
by Michael Loeffler 10 May '07

10 May '07

Hi, wow - looks really good. On "More Downloads" - Might we call "Old download table" not better something like "Expert view" - "Latest Alpha Version" links to download help - at least I can't find a Alpha here M -- Michael Löffler, Product Management SUSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstraße 5, 90409 Nuremberg SUSE LINUX Products GmbH - Nürnberg - AG Nürnberg - HRB 16746 - GF: Markus Rex --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] Participation in openSUSE
by Rajko M. 09 May '07

09 May '07

Any ideas how to translate this to Participate in openSUSE: http://contributing.openoffice.org/ -- Regards, Rajko. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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