Team,
as a follow-up to the thread "ATTENTION: please keep organization in
mind" I posted one week ago to the list, I'd like to summarize what we
have and what we need to do next.
1. Rajko did in awesome job with the evaluation of FlaggedRevs
extension and his result is promising. If there are no complaints,
we'll use this extension for our QA process in combination with the
Wiki Forum at forums.o.o I currently take care of (see 1a).
Rajko provided a showcase of FlaggedRevs at
http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Extension_FlaggedRevs
General information is at http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:FlaggedRevs
1a. I myself discussed the creation of the Wiki Forum (see 1) at
forums.o.o with the Forums Team and it now should be just a matter of
bureaucracy it get it live - I got great support from the Forums Team
here. The current request is to press the button once we need the Wiki
Forum in place.
2. Rajko, Shayon and Remy already made good progress with the
wiki-templates. The result is available at
http://en.opensuse.org/Template and
http://en.opensuse.org/Daily_templates. We still need to think about
an article-template to ensure a consistent look&feel of Tutorial
pages.
3. As soon as possible I'll get started with the creation of the
Guidelines. I'd appreciate any helping hand interested in contributing
here. We need to explain the proper Wiki Usage, the creation of
articles from a design, formulation, conception and syntax
perspective. The Templates need to be linked and the QA Process
(FlaggedRevs in combination with the Wiki Forum) need to be explained
in detail. I'll definitely need input from Wiki Seniors to explain the
one or the other aspect.
4. If there are no complaints, we'll go for Henne's 3rd approach to
start with a new instance from scratch, move just the content we want
while taking care of a consistent look&feel, the conformity of
Tutorials with the principles defined in the Guidelines and the
Content Structure Henne proposed earlier (i.e. a variant of that). For
your reference, here it is once again:
Main
-> Portal:11.2
-> /Features
-> /Screenshots
-> /Screenshots/KDE
-> /Screenshots/UserDesktops
-> /Press
-> /SDB
-> SDB:ASUS_WL-160N_USB_Wireless_Adapter
-> keep older versions in $VERSION namespace e.g. 11.1:Features
and 1.11:Screenshots/GNOME
-> Portal:Project
-> Project:Guiding Principles
-> Project:Teams
-> Project:Teams/Boosters_Team
-> Project:Teams/Boosters_Team/Tasks
-> Project:Teams/GNOME
-> Project:Teams/GNOME/Submitting_Bugs
-> Project:Communication
-> Project:Communication/Mailinglists
-> Project:Communication/Mailinglists/Etiquette
-> Project:Communication/Forums
-> Project:Communication/IRC
-> Project:Communication/Meetings
-> Project:Communication/Meetings/Archive
-> Project:Tools
-> Project:Tools/Build Service
-> Project:Tools/Build_Service/Concepts
-> Portal:Wiki
-> Meta::Structure
-> Meta:Structure/Templates
-> Meta:Structure/Namespaces
-> Meta:Styleguide
Remaining task here is to come up with transition guidelines.
Petr/Henne? Shoud we do this in collaboration?
5. Frank needs input about
http://en.opensuse.org/Wiki_Team/Requested_Extensions in order to get
started with the fresh instance - we certainly need FlaggedRevs as our
QA flagship but please provide input about the rest in order to
support Frank.
6. Once we have everything in place and the new instance up and
running we need to get started with
http://en.opensuse.org/Wiki_Team/Checked_Pages - select what we'd like
to transfer, assure consistent design and categorize it into the new
structure while utilizing the templates.
So far the organizational things...
That said, I'd like to schedule the next Meeting to get everyone
involved on IRC to be able to discuss the Transition and steps we need
to take care of in a real time conversation. In contrast to our last
Meeting I'd appreciate very much to have all Wiki Seniors attending
along with the Boosters, Henne and Frank. Thus I won't schedule until
I got input about availability of all parties - please tell me what
time during the week is most appropriate for you. I myself prefer to
schedule on CET evening to assure a sufficient time for american and
indian participants (Shayon) while still have a sufficient time for
european participants in place. Please, let's approximately target end
of next week OR beginning of the week after next week. Thanks in
advance for your support - I try to come up with a date/time that's
appreciated by all parties.
Best,
R
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Hi.
I demanded to create sk.opensuse.org wiki pages last year -
http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-wiki/2008-11/msg00000.html. All
translations needed for creating them was finished, but the pages aren´t
created yet.
What´s the problem?
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We've discussed which style of capitalization should be used on our wiki.
Couple of years ago I changed requirement to use Wikipedia style and gave
example of "Benefits of Open Office" and "Benefits of open office" as sample
where first can't make difference between institution called Open Office and
work style that keeps some office open in some way, while Wikipedia style is
clear in that proper noun is written capitalized, and all other nouns not.
The currently active Wiki Team is for Wikpedia style, but as we are not alone
on the wiki, we need more opinions.
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Hello,
I just noticed that the PDF links on en.opensuse.org/Linuxtag are
broken. They contain a black square at the bottom-right and are no
longer clickable.
Can someone with more experience with the template used for those links
please look at it (and fix it ;-) ?
Regards,
Christian Boltz
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Shayon,
I send a copy to the list as the information about the final approval
of the Wiki forum from the Forums team is certainly interesting for
the whole team ... That said,
2009/11/20 Shayon Mukherjee <hkwarlock(a)gmail.com>:
> Hello,
> Rupert Horstkötter wrote:
>> Shayon,
>> Well, the usual business of a Forums Moderator. Moderate Discussions
>> when needed. Assure sufficient behaviour of Forums' participants
>> conform with the T&C and react on violation of those. Merge threads
>> and delete spam and so on and so forth. This certainly just applies to
>> the Wiki Forum, not to the Forums as a whole.
>>
>> Best,
>> R
>>
>>
> Thanks Rupert for your reply.I seem to be interested in this task.But i
> dont have any experience with the being a forum moderator before , like
> Jonnathan :) ,But i can assure i can perform the task very well.So rest
> is upto you..Also i would like to know when is the whole process goin to
> start :)
>
You're welcome! Having no experiences so far isn't bad - the whole
life is a learning process. I proposed you, Remy and Jon now at
forums.o.o - still awaiting feedback. From my very personal point of
view, you all three should get the "job" (the more Mods the better).
The whole process is going to start once we have managed the
transition into the new instance and have the new QA implemented. I
have, in the meantime, the definite approval from the Forums Team for
the creation of the Wiki Forum. They're just waiting for green lights
from our team to press the "Go Live Button" actually. I'll discuss the
Moderator appointment with them (last step) and we're done with that
particular task.
Thanks,
R
> I didnt sent this message to the list . As this one is not much
> important to be there
>
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> Shayon Mukherjee
> http://en.opensuse.org/User:Wwarlock
> Email: hkwarlock(a)gmail.com
> Twitter: ShayonM
>
>
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On Tuesday 17 November 2009 05:08:46 Tora Toraman wrote:
> Dear Rajko,
>
> Translations done opensuse 11.2? How can we do to Turkish translation. In
> this regard I very glad you could send me the emergency response.
>
> Best Regards.
> Tora Toraman
>
> www.suse-tr.com
>
I missed you email, sorry.
I'm right now on http://tr.opensuse.org/ and I can see few errors:
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Ticari Sürümü: openSUSE 11.1
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Projenin Dönüm Noktaları talks about 10.3
Please see http://en.opensuse.org/Mediawiki:Mainpagerightcolumn and update the
http://tr.opensuse.org/MedyaViki:Mainpagerightcolumn .
Word Mediawiki is not necessary to translate. It is the name of software that
runs wiki, and the namespace Mediawiki: is the system area of that software.
I don't know rules in Turkish considering translations, but when it is about
software, I'm sure that one has to be very careful when translating.
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Featured Article
Please comment it out with <!-- before and --> after text.
I'm not sure how to help you with those edits as you have sysop/bureaucrat
rights on tr wiki, so you can edit those areas.
BTW, I added the wiki mail list in CC as your question can be better answered
there.
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dear authorities and developers
want to establish a Turkish forum on tr.opensuse .org. but i don't
know whom i should contact with for that. if everyone can establish forums
in their own languages and make use of it, opensuse users will be gatherin
in opensuse.org, not in alternative websites. whatever the language they
have, people will visit opensuse. org if there is a forum in their own
language.
if opensuse. org can also be active as a forum and gather the users in its
own organization, it will be very profitable and useful for
opensuse.orgproject. Or it could be one individual forum that includes
multilingual
forums. i would like to know what your opinions are about this suggestion.
the main purpose here should not only be to gather people who only translate
or develop on opensuse. org. however, latest users should be involved on here
to share information so that opensuse.org can turn out to be a more vivid
and active website.
tora toraman
www.suse-tr . com
http://tr.opensuse. org/Kullan%C4%B1c%C4%B1:Toratoraman
E-Mail : toratoraman(a)gmail.com
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Team,
JFYI, I'll get started with a discussion about the creation of a Wiki
Forum as part of our QA process (proof-reading) with the Forums Team
over at forums.o.o (I have access to the private team area). Besides
the proof-reading aspect I feel this appropriate as a discussion
platform for the Wiki Team with the openSUSE Community (getting
feedback, providing guidance, ..., collaboration from a long term
perspective, i.e. transforming valuable Forums content into
tutorial-style articles for the Wiki and so on and so forth). As we
move forward with the implementation of our Usability Concept, I feel
this as the right time to kick this off - that way we'll have the Wiki
Forum available as soon as we need it.
Any complaints?
Please provide input you may have.
Thanks,
R
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Team,
I'm pretty much satisfied with the progress we make with the Usability
Concept, no question, but there's one thing we constantly need to take
care of - not losing organization and having the big picture in mind.
That said, I'd like provide an attempt to structure the tasks we need
to achieve at first glance and especially order them appropriately:
We need to...
1. agree on the QA process - Rajko is currently reviewing FlaggedRevs
and approx. ETA is end of this week (this is important for the
creation of the new instance)
1a. not urgent (during transition) but related to 1: creation of the
Wiki Forum at forums.o.o as part of QA - my task
2. come up with article-templates (to ensure consistent design) and
sort wiki-templates (like: tested with openSUSE 11.2) - Shayon? John?
3. create the Guidelines (at least that part we need for our
Transition Guidelines - that is 1 and 2) - cannot be done prior
completion of 1 and 2 - my task (helping hands appreciated)
4. agree on a transition plan and come up with those Transition
Guidelines (almost done, I like Petr's approach and afaik we're all in
sync to prefer henne's 3rd option)
5. Go through http://en.opensuse.org/Wiki_Team/Checked_Pages and begin
to migrate in conformity with 2 and 4
I write this email to raise the attention on the following (while I
hope this is anyway obvious): We cannot get started with tasks 4 and 5
before we completed tasks 1, 2, 3. Other things like the establishment
of the front portal (Federico, Petr, Rajko and Shayon), the
project-portals and wiki-projects (Federico and Petr) and so on are
not mission-critical for the success of the actual transition though.
Best,
R
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