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[opensuse-wiki] Another user that seems to ask for attention.
by Rajko M 24 Sep '06

24 Sep '06

http://en.opensuse.org/User:Eoflores has link to http://www.jipitel.info/ with online store link http://www.jipitel.info/store.html with PayPal link that doesn't allow me to see where it will go. Isn't strange that so simple web page has such feature on link that suppose to be PayPal. I wish all the best to folk that click the link. -- Regards, Rajko. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] Re: Another user that seems to ask for attention.
by Rajko M 23 Sep '06

23 Sep '06

eoflores(a)hotmail.com wrote: > Rajko M wrote: >> > >> > http://en.opensuse.org/User:Eoflores >> > has link to >> > http://www.jipitel.info/ >> > with online store link >> > http://www.jipitel.info/store.html >> > with PayPal link that doesn't allow me to see where it will go. >> > >> > Isn't strange that so simple web page has such feature on link that >> > suppose to be PayPal. >> > >> > I wish all the best to folk that click the link. >> > >> > -- >> > Regards, >> > Rajko. >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org >> > For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org >> > >> > >> > > Quoted from: > http://www.nabble.com/Another-user-that-seems-to-ask-for-attention. > -tf2138356.html#a5901241 > Eric, The www.nabble.com is service that is reposting mails from opensuse.org mail lists in the fashion that they appear like they originate on their web forums. I don't use their services, so if you want to discuss advertising, not only with me, but with other openSUSE contributors too, please subscribe to opensuse-wiki list. The proper place might be also opensuse-project mail list. How to do that you can find on http://en.opensuse.org/Communicate page. > Exactly! > > What do yo mean another user "seems to aks for attention." > I'm not asking for any particular attention. It was not only about you, but you are first with own web page listed on en.opensuse.org. Advertising was never discussed in depth on openSUSE. It was previous discussion related to attempts to post commercial links that have nothing to do with openSUSE, but never about rules for people that want to create and build their own small business around openSUSE. That is the reason to post this answer on opensuse-wiki (note CC field). I want others to give opinion too. You are not alone, and more people might want to do the same, but don't want to upset others, so we have to see how to solve this. I think that any legitimate effort should be allowed, and even place more prominent than user own page, but to prevent unnecessary discussions of type "he can, why I can't", "this was allowed, why not this too" we need answers to few questions: - What is allowed, and what not, besides what is written on http://en.opensuse.org/Legal - Do we have to publish rules? - Do we have to vote on every occasion, or we will use both, rules and voting. - Do we need openSUSE market place? - What people would buy/sell/advertise? > I'm trying to contribute with my efforts ... > >> Isn't strange that so simple web page has such feature on link that suppose > to be PayPal. > Yes! The web site is simple and down to earth no fancy code just get up and > running was my point. Setup web page is not "just to get up and running" as your initial effort contain a lot of elements that can be found very often on web pages that exist for all other reasons, but to help visitors. Now it is looking much better than few words and PayPal button, as it was in the very beginning. > Initially I wanted to sell something out of my web > after a lot of thoughts. > I decided to putt out the PayPal button. > The point of my web is to help new users and or entities managed by > foreigners to get a grip on Linux. > Hope you understand! I do understand any legitimate effort, but also that building a trust relationship in todays Internet is major problem and web page creation is mix of art, technical knowledge and experience how to avoid many of pitfalls. -- Regards, Rajko. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] Re: Another user that seems to ask for attention.
by Rajko M 23 Sep '06

23 Sep '06

eoflores(a)hotmail.com wrote: > Rajko M wrote: >> > >> > http://en.opensuse.org/User:Eoflores >> > has link to >> > http://www.jipitel.info/ >> > with online store link >> > http://www.jipitel.info/store.html >> > with PayPal link that doesn't allow me to see where it will go. >> > >> > Isn't strange that so simple web page has such feature on link that >> > suppose to be PayPal. >> > >> > I wish all the best to folk that click the link. >> > >> > -- >> > Regards, >> > Rajko. >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org >> > For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org >> > >> > >> > > Quoted from: > http://www.nabble.com/Another-user-that-seems-to-ask-for-attention. > -tf2138356.html#a5901241 > Eric, The www.nabble.com is service that is reposting mails from opensuse.org mail lists in the fashion that they appear like they originate on their web forums. I don't use their services, so if you want to discuss advertising, not only with me, but with other openSUSE contributors too, please subscribe to opensuse-wiki list. The proper place might be also opensuse-project mail list. How to do that you can find on http://en.opensuse.org/Communicate page. > Exactly! > > What do yo mean another user "seems to aks for attention." > I'm not asking for any particular attention. It was not only about you, but you are first with own web page listed on en.opensuse.org. Advertising was never discussed in depth on openSUSE. It was previous discussion related to attempts to post commercial links that have nothing to do with openSUSE, but never about rules for people that want to create and build their own small business around openSUSE. That is the reason to post this answer on opensuse-wiki (note CC field). I want others to give opinion too. You are not alone, and more people might want to do the same, but don't want to upset others, so we have to see how to solve this. I think that any legitimate effort should be allowed, and even place more prominent than user own page, but to prevent unnecessary discussions of type "he can, why I can't", "this was allowed, why not this too" we need answers to few questions: - What is allowed, and what not, besides what is written on http://en.opensuse.org/Legal - Do we have to publish rules? - Do we have to vote on every occasion, or we will use both, rules and voting. - Do we need openSUSE market place? - What people would buy/sell/advertise? > I'm trying to contribute with my efforts ... > >> Isn't strange that so simple web page has such feature on link that suppose > to be PayPal. > Yes! The web site is simple and down to earth no fancy code just get up and > running was my point. Setup web page is not "just to get up and running" as your initial effort contain a lot of elements that can be found very often on web pages that exist for all other reasons, but to help visitors. Now it is looking much better than few words and PayPal button, as it was in the very beginning. > Initially I wanted to sell something out of my web > after a lot of thoughts. > I decided to putt out the PayPal button. > The point of my web is to help new users and or entities managed by > foreigners to get a grip on Linux. > Hope you understand! I do understand any legitimate effort, but also that building a trust relationship in todays Internet is major problem and web page creation is mix of art, technical knowledge and experience how to avoid many of pitfalls. -- Regards, Rajko. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] Voting for openSUSE.org Product
by Stephan Binner 20 Sep '06

20 Sep '06

Hallo, likely not worth a big announcement: voting for Novell Bugzilla Reports is now also possible for "openSUSE.org" reports (build service, wiki, AIs). Bye, Steve --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] New page in wiki
by Magnus Boman 19 Sep '06

19 Sep '06

Boys and Girls, I've create http://en.opensuse.org/Xwinwrap in the wiki. Unfortunately, I'm not the worlds greatest when it comes to documentation. Could I please ask someone to help me make the page look all pretty. It then needs to link from the Xgl page. Thanks, Magnus --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] The wiki
by Magnus Boman 18 Sep '06

18 Sep '06

Hello, On the openSUSE front page, I would like to see what pages in the wiki that are most popular, what new pages have been created recently, perhaps most recommended or top rated pages etc. This would make a good start for new (and even existing) users when they hit the front page. Is this at all possible to do with the current wiki, and if so, does anyone else think it would be a good idea? Cheers, Magnus --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-wiki] Translation for the new frontpage] - the presentation text
by Rajko M 04 Sep '06

04 Sep '06

Lyle Greg Lisle wrote: > Rajko M wrote: >> I missed one word: >> "The openSUSE project is a worldwide community program sponsored by >> Novell that promotes the use of Linux everywhere. It provides free and >> easy access to openSUSE distribution. Here you will find users and >> developers, who all have the same goal in mind — to create and >> distribute the world's >> most usable Linux." >> >> > Shouldn't that be "It provides free and easy access to the openSUSE > distribution." > > Just being a pedant. ;-) > You should be. It will be our head line for a some time. For translations this will not change much. I hope that Frank or Martin will capture this. So this would be correct version: The openSUSE project is a worldwide community program sponsored by Novell that promotes the use of Linux everywhere. It provides free and easy access to the openSUSE distribution. Here you will find users and developers, who all have the same goal in mind — to create and distribute the world's most usable Linux. -- Regards, Rajko. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] durée du cache
by jdd 04 Sep '06

04 Sep '06

hello I don't know how does the wiki cache work, but I notice that when I went to the wiki today, so just before registering, the last document was dated jully 27 (recent document page). I know a cache is needed, but I wonder if casual user, coming from time to time to see news, with no reason of registering, wont think nothing change in the wiki. may be a one or two days cache would be enough? thanks jdd Je sais qu'il faut un cache, mais je m'inquiète que les usagers qui viennent voir de temps en temps s'il y a du nouveau (et qui n'ont aucune -- http://www.dodin.net http://dodin.org/galerie_photo_web/expo/index.html http://lucien.dodin.net http://fr.susewiki.org/index.php?title=Gérer_ses_photos --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] Lithuanian translation
by Andrius Štikonas 04 Sep '06

04 Sep '06

I am Andrius Štikonas. I will translate openSUSE wiki to Lithuanian. Two pages are translated. -- Andrius

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[opensuse-wiki] [Fwd: Translation for the new frontpage] - the presentation text
by jdd 03 Sep '06

03 Sep '06

writing the translation of the "hat" - the small text presenting the project on the front page, I fall on problems we should adress. May be I'm too unquiet :-), but your advice is welcome. The text is as follow (this is the version that was sent to be translated): TAB1="The > href="http://en.opensuse.org/Project_overview">openSUSE > project</a> is a worldwide community program sponsored by > href="http://www.novell.com/" class="external text" > title="http://www.novell.com" rel="nofollow">Novell</a> > that promotes the use of Linux everywhere. The program > provides free and easy access to openSUSE. Here you will > find a community of users and developers, who all have > the same goal in mind—to create and distribute the > world's most usable Linux." I have several concerns: * I wonder if the use of the word "program" in the presentation text is a good idea. It could make think that we speak of the Linux code... Better should be the use of "project", like this: "OpenSUSE is a worldwide community project... The project provides..." *I have also problems with the word "community". At the moment, "communautaire" and "communautarisme" (at least in France) are used to qualify groups of peoples locked on themselves, refusing to mix with others, leading for example on the extremes to muslims terrorists, a very bad connotation :-( However I don't really know what to use as replacement :-(. May be we could use it, but with some enforcement. For example, we could use the following text (I cut off the links for readability): "openSUSE is a worldwide project sponsored by Novell that promotes the use of Linux everywhere. The project provides free and easy access to a Linux distribution called also openSUSE. Here you will find an open community of users and developers, who all have the same goal in mind: create and distribute the world's most usable Linux." I know this can seems redundant, but this is our flag, it must be specially clear. jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://dodin.org/galerie_photo_web/expo/index.html http://lucien.dodin.net http://fr.susewiki.org/index.php?title=Gérer_ses_photos --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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