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Tumbleweed: prevent SSH client from sending environment variables
by Nicolas Kovacs 22 Aug '22

22 Aug '22

Hi, Up until a few weeks ago, I ran OpenSUSE Leap as my daily driver. I only recently moved to Tumbleweed, which seems to get more attention by the OpenSUSE developers. One of the things I did on my Leap system was reconfigure the SSH client in order to *not* send any environment variables. To do this, I opened /etc/ssh/ssh_config and found the relevant stanza: SendEnv LANG LC_CTYPE LC_NUMERIC LC_TIME LC_COLLATE LC_MONETARY LC_MESSAGES SendEnv LC_PAPER LC_NAME LC_ADDRESS LC_TELEPHONE LC_MEASUREMENT SendEnv LC_IDENTIFICATION LC_ALL I simply commented this out and reloaded SSH: # systemctl reload sshd I tried to do this with Tumbleweed, but I don't have an /etc/ssh/ssh_config file. Instead, I only have an empty /etc/ssh/ssh_config.d directory. So I guess my SSH client has all default values defined at build time. What would be an orthodox approach to prevent it from sending any environment variables ? Thanks & cheers from Austria, Niki -- Microlinux - Solutions informatiques durables 7, place de l'église - 30730 Montpezat Site : https://www.microlinux.fr Blog : https://blog.microlinux.fr Mail : info(a)microlinux.fr Tél. : 04 66 63 10 32 Mob. : 06 51 80 12 12

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TW: boot problem kernel 5.18.9-2 and higher
by Martin /Nightowl/ Byttebier 21 Aug '22

21 Aug '22

Hardware: Dell XPS 8940 11th Gen Intel i7-11700 (16) @ 4.800GHz NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Ti I'm using latest TW-release with kernel 5.19.0-1-default and NVIDIA driver 515.65.01 installed the hard way. kernel 5.18.9-2 or higher seems to give a (plymouth) problem. The problem doesn't occur with kernel 5.18.9-1-default or lower. Booting up with one of these kernels the plymouth boot screen stops displaying after this line: I915 0000:00:02.0: enabling device (0006 -> 0007) Eventually I get to the KDE login screen. The problem is that I'm using the hard way to install NVIDIA. This makes I can't boot when a new kernel is installed as the boot process ends up with a black screen. Luckely I can access the faulty pc from another pc and install the driver from there. journalctl show me this: Aug 12 18:17:32 dell-desk sddm[1381]: Initializing... Aug 12 18:17:32 dell-desk sddm[1381]: Starting... Aug 12 18:17:32 dell-desk sddm[1381]: Logind interface found Aug 12 18:17:32 dell-desk sddm[1381]: Adding new display on vt 7 ... Aug 12 18:17:32 dell-desk sddm[1381]: Loading theme configuration from "" Aug 12 18:17:32 dell-desk sddm[1381]: Display server starting... Aug 12 18:17:32 dell-desk sddm[1381]: Running: /usr/bin/X -nolisten tcp -auth /run/sddm/{765f2352-11a7-428b-9a7a-55f8fef85402} -background none -noreset -displayfd 17 -seat seat0 vt7 Aug 12 18:17:33 dell-desk sddm[1381]: Failed to read display number from pipe Aug 12 18:17:33 dell-desk sddm[1381]: Attempt 1 starting the Display server on vt 7 failed Aug 12 18:17:35 dell-desk sddm[1381]: Display server starting... Aug 12 18:17:35 dell-desk sddm[1381]: Running: /usr/bin/X -nolisten tcp -auth /run/sddm/{765f2352-11a7-428b-9a7a-55f8fef85402} -background none -noreset -displayfd 17 -seat seat0 vt7 Aug 12 18:17:35 dell-desk sddm[1381]: Failed to read display number from pipe Aug 12 18:17:35 dell-desk sddm[1381]: Attempt 2 starting the Display server on vt 7 failed Aug 12 18:17:37 dell-desk sddm[1381]: Display server starting... Aug 12 18:17:37 dell-desk sddm[1381]: Running: /usr/bin/X -nolisten tcp -auth /run/sddm/{765f2352-11a7-428b-9a7a-55f8fef85402} -background none -noreset -displayfd 17 -seat seat0 vt7 Aug 12 18:17:37 dell-desk sddm[1381]: Failed to read display number from pipe Aug 12 18:17:37 dell-desk sddm[1381]: Attempt 3 starting the Display server on vt 7 failed Aug 12 18:17:37 dell-desk sddm[1381]: Could not start Display server on vt 7 Any idea how I can fix this? Martin

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VirtualBox Puel Crashes After Latest Updates on 15.4 Qt related.
by David C. Rankin 18 Aug '22

18 Aug '22

All, I am running Virtualbox 6.1.36 PUEL version (I need the USB). It has run fine for years and years (since version 3.X). Today I went to start it and it would not load. Starting from the command line as my user, I get: VirtualBox Qt FATAL: FATAL: The application binary appears to be running setuid, this is a security hole. Aborted Huh? WTF? Obviously it is unhappy with Qt or vice versa. This worked fine a couple of weeks ago. What to check to narrow down the issue? I can su and then VirtualBox runs, but since it is running under root, none of my VM's are found. Running with sudo -E I receive: No protocol specified No protocol specified Qt CRITICAL: This application failed to start because no Qt platform plugin could be initialized. Reinstalling the application may fix this problem. Available platform plugins are: eglfs, linuxfb, minimal, minimalegl, offscreen, vnc, xcb. Now running su'ed to root, Virtualbox starts and the dialog appears, but no vms are shown. The following warning is shown on the command line: Qt WARNING: QStandardPaths: runtime directory '/run/user/1000' is not owned by UID 0, but a directory permissions 0700 owned by UID 1000 GID 1060 What has changed with Qt these past two weeks that is causing VirtualBox to freak out? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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Permissions of /usr/local/bin
by Siard 17 Aug '22

17 Aug '22

/usr/local/bin is owned by root with permissions 755, so as a user I cannot put a script in there. I can change the ownership, but every time after a reboot it is owned by root again, with permissions 755. Does anyone know where this is set, and/or how I can make /usr/local/bin permanently make writable for a user?

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missing kernel source for 5.18.12-lp154.5-default
by Boyd Lynn Gerber 16 Aug '22

16 Aug '22

Hello, I'm trying to get my VM Workstation 16 Pro working. I need the source to compile vmware-host-modules-workstation-16.2.4. I booted this kernel. Where may I get the source? All I have is 5.14.21-150400.24.18-default Regards, -- Boyd Gerber <gerberb(a)zenez.com> 801 849-0213 ZENEZ 1042 East Fort Union #135, Midvale Utah 84047

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NetworkManager
by Wolfgang Mueller 16 Aug '22

16 Aug '22

I have to computers, - "hewpac" with Leap 15.2 installed and - "azure" with Leap 15.4, both working under KDE and connected to the router via WiFi. For a long time, both worked under the so-called Wicked connection. But yesterday in the morning, this type of connection failed. Consequently I had to select NetworkManager for having them connected. After an hour, the NetworkManager connection of "azure" (Leap 15.4) failed, and since then it cannot be re-established any more. When i click the "Networks" mini-icon in the panel, four routers in the neighborhood are listed under "Available connections", but mine is not. What can I do for making it find my router again? Thank you in advance for your help. Best regards, Wolfgang

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Build libheif to support heif-convert of Apple .heic files to .jpg/.png (and enable open by Gimp)
by David C. Rankin 12 Aug '22

12 Aug '22

All, If you have ever been stuck with a native iPhone .heic file on Linux it is a pain in the .... However, you can simply rebuild the current source package for 15.4 (or 15.3, etc..): http://download.opensuse.org/source/distribution/leap/15.4/repo/oss/src/lib… using rpmbuild and the "--with x265" option to enable building with libde265-0 and libx265-199 (both from packman) which will build the heif-examples package that provides: /usr/bin/heif-convert /usr/bin/heif-enc /usr/bin/heif-info /usr/bin/heif-thumbnailer You will also need to install the corresponding -devel packages as well along with librav1e0 and rav1e-devel, and libaom3 and libaom-devel. The list of subpackages created using the x265 option are: gdk-pixbuf-loader-libheif heif-examples libheif-devel libheif1 The available gimp-plugin-heif, allows Gimp to open .heic files directly after you have build and installed the updated version. You will also need to create a *.heic *.HEIC file association for whatever desktop you are using in order to enable the rt-click context menu "Open with Gimp". Primary use I have is simply to convert the same .heic files I get sent. After the updated package is installed, it's as simple as: $ heif-convert file.heic file.jpg I hacked a spec together which worked swimmingly, to ask on the packaging list about handing a couple of conflicts only to find the conditional build in the current openSUSE srpm already provided a path. Hopefully this will save some other soul the same grief. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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[oS-en] Recovering dead text file
by Carlos E. R. 11 Aug '22

11 Aug '22

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Yesterday I powered down the computer (not hibernated as usual). I was editing a text file with jstar (aka joe) and told it to save the file. But I failed somehow, because yesterday edit is not there, is lost. Not a big deal, I know what it was and can redo. If I try to edit the file again, it knows: Locked by cer(a)Telcontar.403. (S)teal lock, (I) edit anyway, (Q) cancel edit? I could just steal lock, but I'm curious whether I might recover the lost edit. Where is it, if it is somewhere? The edit command line is called: jstar howto I see in the last files of the home dir: lrwxrwxrwx 1 cer users 17 Aug 9 19:55 .#howto -> cer(a)Telcontar.403 - -rw------- 1 cer users 4707 Aug 10 12:01 .joe_state But those are not the edited file copy. And "cer(a)Telcontar.403" does not exist. It is not in tmp: cer@Telcontar:~> ls /tmp/j* ls: cannot access '/tmp/j*': No such file or directory cer@Telcontar:~> So, does jstar, aka joe, save a temporary file with the edit somewhere? There is a "JOE" file in home dir with old aborted edits, but it is dated 2007. - -- Cheers Carlos E. R. (from 15.3 x86_64 at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iHoEARECADoWIQQZEb51mJKK1KpcU/W1MxgcbY1H1QUCYvOF4Rwccm9iaW4ubGlz dGFzQHRlbGVmb25pY2EubmV0AAoJELUzGBxtjUfV18oAnAxanSh2BLy7rvV009og iZ/apGGZAJ9qDr/ZMjfGIOgBqn7YFZlBbwWBZg== =ik6S -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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logrotate, systemd, stopped rotating a log
by joe a 11 Aug '22

11 Aug '22

Leap 15.3. Some time back got logrotate working to rotate fetchmail logs. Found that it seems to be no longer rotating that file. I noticed the logrotate.conf file is empty. Before delving any further I wanted to assure or disabuse myself of the notion that it matters not, as long as the proper configurations are in /etc/logrotate.d/def_for_my_log.

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skype unusable after latest update
by Constant Brouerius van Nidek 10 Aug '22

10 Aug '22

Using Skype for a very long time but this is the first time that it only shows two big frame of me and my contact. Not very nice and every effort to get it working with the big frame with my contact and myself in a small picture in the right side of the screen was unsuccessful. How to get a useful Skype back

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Re: skype unusable after latest update
by Adam Majer 10 Aug '22

10 Aug '22

Hi, This I don't know. I'm not sure what is the problem, but I think I've had similar thing few years ago when we had Skype. The solution was to use the web version with Google Chrome. You *may* get some additional diagnostic info what is going on if you try to launch it from command line and see what is printed there. - Adam PS. Please reply to list so that others can see and help you. I'm not an expert on Skype :-) On 8/10/22 14:21, Constant Brouerius van Nidek wrote: > TW, yes that what I am running. What causes the problem? Would an older > version of Skype be a solution >> https://web.skype.com/ >> >> And they support Google Chrome as browser, not Firefox or Chromium.

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upgrading *and* migrating
by David T-G 10 Aug '22

10 Aug '22

Hi, all -- It's long past time diskfarm:~ # cat /etc/os-release NAME="openSUSE Leap" VERSION="15.2" ID="opensuse-leap" ID_LIKE="suse opensuse" VERSION_ID="15.2" PRETTY_NAME="openSUSE Leap 15.2" ANSI_COLOR="0;32" CPE_NAME="cpe:/o:opensuse:leap:15.2" BUG_REPORT_URL="https://bugs.opensuse.org" HOME_URL="https://www.opensuse.org/" to upgrade diskfarm. It is also, coincidentally, time to add a mirror drive, which of course one can't do on the running system. Soooo ... Can I *upgrade* my system to another partition, like one on the new mirror? Or how (rsync? cp -a? cpio? tar? ...) can I copy the old partition content to a new slice of slightly different size (around the RAID metadata) to then boot from it instead, and then update? [I actually have two identical slices on the drive and use dd to copy over as a backup before upgrading, but dd won't work here.] I am, of course, seeking the simplicity of an upgrade while retaining the security of falling back to the old installation if needed, all in the same timeframe as adding the mirror because, well, duh :-) TIA & HAND :-D -- David T-G See http://justpickone.org/davidtg/email/ See http://justpickone.org/davidtg/tofu.txt

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ntfs-3g versus ntfs3
by Simon Becherer 10 Aug '22

10 Aug '22

Hi, only for the record, sitting here for about a half day to figure out a problem using systemrescuecd version 9.0.2 and 9.0.4 making backup of a ntfs (windows 10 embeddend) drive: command is: mount -t ntfs3 /dev/sda2 /mnt/sda2 tar -c -v -j --ignore-failed-read -f /mnt/nfs/simon/Dokumente/sda2-lind-NEU.tar.bz2 sda2 2>/mnt/nfs/simon/Dokumente/sda2-lind-NEU-tar-error.txt will stop about 6.2gb with drop of iptables and other error messages / stuck of complete system. ================== ntfs-3g /dev/sda2 /mnt/sda2 tar -c -v -j --ignore-failed-read -f /mnt/nfs/simon/Dokumente/sda2-lind-NEU.tar.bz2 sda2 2>/mnt/nfs/simon/Dokumente/sda2-lind-NEU-tar-error.txt this will work. ============ so in my opinion, the "new" kernel ntfs driver is not ready to use. i do not know if this problems is known at linux kernel developer. have made about 10-20 tests, always same result. simoN -- www.becherer.de ----------------------------------------------- - Das ist die vorlaeufig endgueltige Version! - Herbert C. Maier Dipl.-Ing. (FH) -----------------------------------------------

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viewing local shtml pages in browser
by gumb 09 Aug '22

09 Aug '22

Once upon a time, in a land not far away, I created an Intranet site for my former company. This was back in the 2000s. It was a relatively simple static HTML site but certain page elements were pulled via Server Side Includes. I keep copies of that and other static HTML sites I created in local directories on my PC, not in a local server like /srv/www, there's no need, just in my home directory. I can still view all my other sites from there no problem in Firefox. I haven't looked at that Intranet site for a year or two, but now it doesn't work. Only the initial index.html page is plain HTML with no SSI, and fully viewable. All the other pages have an .shtml extension, so in the past I would have to forgo seeing certain non-loaded page elements in menus and title bars, and just navigate using the links in the main part of the view, which was good enough to still access all the main content. Now, clicking a link in Firefox from the index to any other page brings up a dialog box requesting which program I want to use to open the file. Firefox itself is the only suggestion and hence default option, so if I click OK it opens a new blank tab and throws up the dialog box again, and again, for eternity, without showing the page. The only two browsers I have installed on 15.4 are Firefox and Konqueror. I tried copying and pasting the URL into Konqueror, but when I hit Enter it just switches back to Firefox and presents the same dialog box. Indeed, I note that now Konqueror will only show pages on the web and doesn't want to show any local page, always directing me back to Firefox. This wasn't the case in the past. I've looked in Konqueror's settings and tried using the different view modes, e.g. KHTML, WebKit, but can't find a workaround there. I assume there's some security-based rationale for not showing these pages but I don't know at what level and whether I can override it. I've checked in Dolphin that shtml files are associated by default to open with Firefox. Anybody know a config option or other way to view such pages, or a browser which definitely still displays them? gumb

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PHP on my PC
by Siard 09 Aug '22

09 Aug '22

To test a website on my PC before uploading it to the webhoster, I can simply open the html files with a browser. But if the site contains PHP code, a local web server is needed. So I installed apache2 and php8. But what do I need to do further? The browser cannot find 'localhost' yet, and /var/www does not exist yet.

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File system check question
by Marc Chamberlin 09 Aug '22

09 Aug '22

Hi, As some of you may recognize, I have been calling on the fine gurus that lurk on this newsgroup for help with issues that come up with my attempts to upgrade/install OpenSuSE15.4 on one of my systems. I was in the middle of doing some detective work on a problem I am having, when the computer I was working on, froze up and forced me to reboot the system. Upon rebooting, the system decided to run a file system check on one of my drives. Unfortunately, this file system check has now been running for over 3 days and the message on the screen only shows 2 bits of information, one the UUID of the disk drive being checked, and second, the amount of time that has passed since the file system check started. Both of these tidbits of information are rather useless IMHO. Without stopping the check I have no idea which drive corresponds to that UUID and would need something like the YaST partitioner on a Live USB stick to identify which drive it is (by comparing disk labels, names of partitions, disk sizes, with UUIDs). But that is not my main concern, the other really important bit of info needed is an estimate of how long it will take to complete the file system check! I have 6 drives on this system (mostly used for backing up other systems on my SOHO network) and these drives range in size from 500Gb to 8Tb. My conundrum is this - do I continue to wait for the file system check to complete, not knowing how much longer it will take, or do I bag it, put in a new drive and install a new OpenSuSE 15.4 system? If I install a new OS on a new drive, I could get my backup services and other services I need running on this system, back up and running in 2 to 5 days (based on my previous experiences with installing a new system). I could then also run the file system check on the drive, which apparently has a problem, as a background task. Any suggestions on how to proceed or make a choice? Since this missed/needed user requirement, that of providing an estimated time till completion for doing file system checks, is a new feature request now, would it be worth it to submit a bug report (knowing from past experience that bug fixes and feature updates often take years to resolve) or is this simply some unmaintained old low-priority software that no one really supports anymore? As always, an educated guess will be much appreciated, I don't have the kind of experience with the file system checking software, or understand what it does exactly, to make a good guess myself. Is it safe to abort, by reboot or power cycle, a file system check that is in process? Marc... -- *"The Truth is out there" - Spooky* *_ _ . . . . . . _ _ . _ _ _ _ . . . . _ . . . . _ _ . _ _ _ . . . . _ _ . _ . . _ . _ _ _ _ . _ . _ . _ . _ . * Computers: the final frontier. These are the voyages of the user Marc. His mission: to explore strange new hardware. To seek out new software and new applications. To boldly go where no Marc has gone before! (/This email is digitally signed and the OpenPGP electronic signature is added as an attachment. If you know how, you can use my public key to prove this email indeed came from me and has not been modified in transit. My public key, which can be used for sending encrypted email to me also, can be found at - https://keys.openpgp.org/search?q=marc@marcchamberlin.com or just ask me for it and I will send it to you as an attachment. If you don't understand all this geek speak, no worries, just ignore this explanation and ignore the OpenPGP signature key attached to this email (it will look like gibberish if you open it) and/or ask me to explain it further if you like./)

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What happened to ZFS?
by David C. Rankin 08 Aug '22

08 Aug '22

All, Where did the ZFS package go? License change? zfs-dkms an option like debian does? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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OT - filter test
by Stevens 07 Aug '22

07 Aug '22

test

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Shade/Unshade issues
by Peter Suetterlin 07 Aug '22

07 Aug '22

Hi list, I wonder if someone has seen similar problems, and/or has an idea what might be causing it. Since many weeks my Tumbleweed laptop shows an embarassing behavior: If I shade a window, and unshade again, the window height is reduced to 1 character height for text windows, or one pixel for graphical ones. It's the same whether I use the mouse wheel or the window menu for shading. The irritating part is: My desktop at home, also running TW, does not show this. So I assume it is some setting - I just don't have the foggiest idea where to look. I've tried to recursively grep for 'shade' in ~/.config, but that didn't reveal anything. I had opened a bugreport (boo#1200007), but without any response, so I thought I ask here, maybe someone knows where to look... :( I'm running plasma/kwin

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ax25 package files missing.
by Marc Chamberlin 06 Aug '22

06 Aug '22

I am in the process of installing the ax25.tools package on my OpenSuSE 15.4 x64 system and am discovering a few files that seem to be missing. /usr/local/etc was missing wl3k.conf and wl2k.conf.dist /usr/local/etc/ax25/ entire directory is missing which includes ax25-down, ax25-up, and links for axports and Lanparms. /etc/ax25/Lanparms file missing I know this is an obscure package used by crazy ham radio operators wanting to communicate via packet radio. Was there a reason these files were removed, nothing in the release note mention these files AFAIK, or maybe a packaging screw up? For now I am scarfing these files from OpenSuSE 15.3 and hoping that will be a good enough workaround. 73's Marc WA7PXW... -- *"The Truth is out there" - Spooky* *_ _ . . . . . . _ _ . _ _ _ _ . . . . _ . . . . _ _ . _ _ _ . . . . _ _ . _ . . _ . _ _ _ _ . _ . _ . _ . _ . * Computers: the final frontier. These are the voyages of the user Marc. His mission: to explore strange new hardware. To seek out new software and new applications. To boldly go where no Marc has gone before! (/This email is digitally signed and the OpenPGP electronic signature is added as an attachment. If you know how, you can use my public key to prove this email indeed came from me and has not been modified in transit. My public key, which can be used for sending encrypted email to me also, can be found at - https://keys.openpgp.org/search?q=marc@marcchamberlin.com or just ask me for it and I will send it to you as an attachment. If you don't understand all this geek speak, no worries, just ignore this explanation and ignore the OpenPGP signature key attached to this email (it will look like gibberish if you open it) and/or ask me to explain it further if you like./)

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OT - another mail test
by Stevens 06 Aug '22

06 Aug '22

test

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KDE NetworkManager
by Roger Oberholtzer 05 Aug '22

05 Aug '22

I have been using NetworkManager in KDE for a long time. It has been working great. Until now. I was helping a friend so I disabled NetworkManager in yast. All went fine. I could do what I needed to do in the network to sort out his thing. I then selected NetworkManager in yast again. I get nothing. I cannot even get the plasma widget back. Nada. I know about KDE's rather fragile state when it comes to plasmoid widgets. I just cannot see what is confusing things. I don't even see NetworkManager as a widget I can add. Shouldn't I be able to do so if it is no longer showing up automatically? I've googled this and see lots from a while back when this was all less stable- I don't see much recently. Wicked works. But I don't want to use yast to control wireless. I'm rather mobile with this computer. Pointers and suggestions welcome. It's a Tumbleweed system that is rather up-to-date. -- Roger Oberholtzer

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How to set default window manager for auto login?
by Siard 29 Jul '22

29 Jul '22

I have Tumbleweed with the MATE desktop and autologin enabled, and also installed the Openbox WM. Now how could I autologin into Openbox instead of MATE? In YaST's /etc/sysconfig editor, in Desktop > Window manager > DEFAULT_WM, the possible values are: default, gnome, plasma5, lxde, xfce, twm, icewm, enlightenment or 'any value'. So openbox is not among the options, and if I enter 'openbox', it has no effect. I also tried 'update-alternatives --config default-xsession.desktop' as suggested in the sysconfig editor, but then I can only opt for mate.desktop or icewm-session.desktop.

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Updating glibc and filesystem on Tumbleweed
by Roger Oberholtzer 29 Jul '22

29 Jul '22

I have a server running Tumbleweed. It is a bit behind in terms of updates for reasons that are not relevant to my question (a Python 2-based server I don't dare mess up). I want to update a library with a package from OBS. That package has been built with a newer version of glibc. So zypper wants to update glibc as well. And a couple others like filesystem. My Tumbleweed is before the lib move. I guess glibc usually contains support for older versions. I have 2.30, it wants to update to 2.35. An update such as this seems plausible. But the filesystem update seems odd in that I would have expected many more things to need to be updated when the move happened. I know that there are links in place that should help. Still... I have snapper enabled. So maybe I can try and see what happens. But I'm not sure about this one. Any thoughts? -- Roger Oberholtzer

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fix scope problem with variable in bash script
by kf 29 Jul '22

29 Jul '22

Obviously I've reduced and rewitten it to better point out the problem in this script. The question is, how should the variable "count" be declared so that it isn't treated as two, completely different variables (with exactly the same name)? If you want to try to run it, it takes a filename as an commandline argument. ======================== #!/bin/bash #How to declare the variable "count"??? count=0 cat $1 | while read line do count=$((count+1)) echo -n "$count " done echo echo File $1 has $count lines. ======================== Thanks.

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The future of OpenSUSE Leap (rant)
by Nicolas Kovacs 29 Jul '22

29 Jul '22

Hi, I'm the manager of a small IT firm with a focus on Linux and Open Source software. On my servers I'm running a mix of various RHEL clones like CentOS, Oracle Linux and Rocky Linux. On the desktop side, I've been using OpenSUSE Leap with KDE since version 15.0. Leap is powering all the desktop clients in our local school, and everybody (school staff, teachers, students) is very happy with it. I just finished polishing up my bone-headed post-install configuration script for Leap 15.4: https://gitlab.com/kikinovak/opensuse-lp154/-/blob/main/setup.sh And I just learned that SUSE will phase out Leap after the 15.5 release. So here's a few thoughts I want to share with the distribution maintainers. 1. Perennity anyone ? Duh ? 2. After the CentOS debacle in 2020, it looks like distribution maintainers love pissing off their userbase by pulling the rug from under their feet. Hint: we hate it. 3. Some official SUSE guy on Twitter who shall remain unnamed likes to explain on a regular basis that rolling releases are the future and folks who rely on releases are utterly clueless. As someone who tried to maintain a dozen production client desktops based on Arch Linux as far back as 2006 and failed miserably after a udev update broke everything, here's a thought from my professional experience. My Number One Fight Club rule: YOU DO NOT USE ROLLING RELEASES IN A PRODUCTION ENVIRONMENT. Yes, I shouted that out loud. 4. Yes, I have Tumbleweed running on a spare sandbox PC. Yes, it works nicely. No, I will never (ever) use it in production. 5. Stop reinventing the wheel please. You young punks remind me of myself when I was three years old and tried to "repair" my parent's perfectly functional alarm clock. Cheers from the blazing hot South of France, Niki Kovacs (https://tinyurl.com/2p8tk495) -- Microlinux - Solutions informatiques durables 7, place de l'église - 30730 Montpezat Site : https://www.microlinux.fr Blog : https://blog.microlinux.fr Mail : info(a)microlinux.fr Tél. : 04 66 63 10 32 Mob. : 06 51 80 12 12

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Bacula installation fails
by Marc Chamberlin 28 Jul '22

28 Jul '22

Hi - I am running OpenSuSE 15.4 and I tried to install Bacula from both of the Community Repositories set up with YaST 1-click installers - > https://software.opensuse.org/download/package?package=bacula&project=home%… > https://software.opensuse.org/download/package?package=bacula&project=home%… and both of these gave me a whole lot of error messages such as - > An error occurred while initializing the software repository. > Details: > https-download.opensuse.org-ecf8b775: > [https-download.opensuse.org-ecf8b775|https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/SUSE:/SLE-15-SP1:/GA/pool/] > Valid metadata not found at specified URL > History: > - > [https-download.opensuse.org-ecf8b775|https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/SUSE:/SLE-15-SP1:/GA/pool/] > Repository type can't be determined. > > Try again? I don't know what protocols I should be following if/when I want to use a Community Repository to get a package from, nor do I grok how to submit a bug report against them. (to my untrained eyes this error message doesn't look like something I can handle from my end either!) So.... how do I download and install bacula on my system? As always, thanks in advance for helping me with this problem! Marc C -- *"The Truth is out there" - Spooky* *_ _ . . . . . . _ _ . _ _ _ _ . . . . _ . . . . _ _ . _ _ _ . . . . _ _ . _ . . _ . _ _ _ _ . _ . _ . _ . _ . * Computers: the final frontier. These are the voyages of the user Marc. His mission: to explore strange new hardware. To seek out new software and new applications. To boldly go where no Marc has gone before! (/This email is digitally signed and the OpenPGP electronic signature is added as an attachment. If you know how, you can use my public key to prove this email indeed came from me and has not been modified in transit. My public key, which can be used for sending encrypted email to me also, can be found at - https://keys.openpgp.org/search?q=marc@marcchamberlin.com or just ask me for it and I will send it to you as an attachment. If you don't understand all this geek speak, no worries, just ignore this explanation and ignore the OpenPGP signature key attached to this email (it will look like gibberish if you open it) and/or ask me to explain it further if you like./)

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Unable to load nvidia-gfxG05-kmp-default-470.129.06: Unknown symbol __x86_return_thunk
by Aaron Digulla 28 Jul '22

28 Jul '22

Hi, I just updated the NVIDIA drivers (without checking that I have backups of the old RPMs :-( ) and now, the driver won't load because of: nvidia: Unknown symbol __x86_return_thunk (err -2) 1. How do I fix this? This string isn't used anywhere in the sources: $ grep -r thunk /usr/src/kernel-modules/nvidia-470.129.06-default /usr/src/kernel-modules/nvidia-470.129.06-default/common/inc/nv-retpoline.h: ".weak __x86_indirect_thunk_" #REG ";" \ /usr/src/kernel-modules/nvidia-470.129.06-default/common/inc/nv-retpoline.h: ".type __x86_indirect_thunk_" #REG ", @function;" \ /usr/src/kernel-modules/nvidia-470.129.06-default/common/inc/nv-retpoline.h: "__x86_indirect_thunk_" #REG ":" \ /usr/src/kernel-modules/nvidia-470.129.06-default/common/inc/nv-retpoline.h: ".size __x86_indirect_thunk_" #REG ", .-__x86_indirect_thunk_" #REG) /usr/src/kernel-modules/nvidia-470.129.06-default/common/inc/nv-retpoline.h: ".weak __x86_indirect_thunk_" #REG ";" \ /usr/src/kernel-modules/nvidia-470.129.06-default/common/inc/nv-retpoline.h: ".type __x86_indirect_thunk_" #REG ", @function;" \ /usr/src/kernel-modules/nvidia-470.129.06-default/common/inc/nv-retpoline.h: "__x86_indirect_thunk_" #REG ":" \ /usr/src/kernel-modules/nvidia-470.129.06-default/common/inc/nv-retpoline.h: ".size __x86_indirect_thunk_" #REG ", .-__x86_indirect_thunk_" #REG) Übereinstimmungen in Binärdatei /usr/src/kernel-modules/nvidia-470.129.06-default/nvidia/nv-kernel.o_binary Übereinstimmungen in Binärdatei /usr/src/kernel-modules/nvidia-470.129.06-default/nvidia-modeset/nv-modeset-kernel.o_binary 2. Is there a place where I can find version 470.103.01 because that one still worked? Or would you recommend that I downgrade the kernel 5.3.18? Regards, -- Aaron "Optimizer" Digulla a.k.a. Philmann Dark "It's not the universe that's limited, it's our imagination. Follow me and I'll show you something beyond the limits." http://blog.pdark.de/

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[oS-en] Problem with Thunderbird not opening links.
by Carlos E. R. 26 Jul '22

26 Jul '22

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, When I click on a link in an email in Thundebird, it stays silent for some seconds, then says that "Firefox is alreadu running, but is not responding. To use Firefox, you must first close the existing Firefox process, restart your device, or use a different process". This has been going on for over a month, so obviously I have closed FF more than once. And I have 3 firefox profiles open this minute. If I enter the command on a terminal: cer@Legolas:~> xdg-open "http://google.es" cer@Legolas:~> and a window from FF opens asking me what profile to open. I do not want that, I want it to directly open "default" profile. cer@Legolas:~> xdg-settings get default-web-browser firefox.desktop cer@Legolas:~> I assume it means ~/.local/share/applications/firefox.desktop I attach the file so that you can see it. What is wrong? What can I do? - -- Cheers Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE Leap 15.3 at Legolas) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iHoEARECADoWIQQZEb51mJKK1KpcU/W1MxgcbY1H1QUCYt0xPxwccm9iaW4ubGlz dGFzQHRlbGVmb25pY2EubmV0AAoJELUzGBxtjUfVyUAAnRQkCj93t2qRQvJce6Hi pWjyyVaSAJ93pYB1qOQnIo7jdTE4uJoSSG5DFA== =hXkL -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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x11vnc failed on OpenSuSE 15.4
by Marc Chamberlin 26 Jul '22

26 Jul '22

Hi - I recently ported my x11vnc.service file from my OpenSuSE15.3 system to my new OpenSuSE15.4 system. It ran fine under 15.3 but now in the 15.4 system the x11vnc service fails to start. My x11vnc.service file is as follows - [Unit] Description=X11VNC Service After=multi-user.target [Service] Type=simple ExecStart=/usr/bin/x11vnc -display :0 -auth /home/marc/.Xauthority -forever -loop -noxdamage -repeat -rfbauth /etc/vncpasswd -o /var/log/x11vnc.log -rfbport 5900 -noipv6 -shared ExecStop=/usr/bin/x11vnc -R stop Restart=on-failure RestartSec=2 User=root Group=root [Install] WantedBy=multi-user.target ------------------------------------ The x11vnc.log file shows the following - darkstar:/var/log #more x11vnc.log 17/07/2022 13:25:25 passing arg to libvncserver: -rfbauth 17/07/2022 13:25:25 passing arg to libvncserver: /etc/vncpasswd 17/07/2022 13:25:25 passing arg to libvncserver: -rfbport 17/07/2022 13:25:25 passing arg to libvncserver: 5900 17/07/2022 13:25:25 x11vnc version: 0.9.16 lastmod: 2019-01-05 pid: 30003 17/07/2022 13:25:25 XOpenDisplay("") failed. 17/07/2022 13:25:25 Trying again with XAUTHLOCALHOSTNAME=localhost ... 17/07/2022 13:25:25 17/07/2022 13:25:25 *** XOpenDisplay failed. No -display or DISPLAY. 17/07/2022 13:25:25 *** Trying ":0" in 4 seconds. Press Ctrl-C to abort. 17/07/2022 13:25:25 *** 1 2 3 ------------------------------------ So what changed with x11vnc between 15.3 and 15.4 and how do I get this working again? Thanks in advance for helping me! Marc C -- *"The Truth is out there" - Spooky* *_ _ . . . . . . _ _ . _ _ _ _ . . . . _ . . . . _ _ . _ _ _ . . . . _ _ . _ . . _ . _ _ _ _ . _ . _ . _ . _ . * Computers: the final frontier. These are the voyages of the user Marc. His mission: to explore strange new hardware. To seek out new software and new applications. To boldly go where no Marc has gone before! (/This email is digitally signed and the OpenPGP electronic signature is added as an attachment. If you know how, you can use my public key to prove this email indeed came from me and has not been modified in transit. My public key, which can be used for sending encrypted email to me also, can be found at - https://keys.openpgp.org/search?q=marc@marcchamberlin.com or just ask me for it and I will send it to you as an attachment. If you don't understand all this geek speak, no worries, just ignore this explanation and ignore the OpenPGP signature key attached to this email (it will look like gibberish if you open it) and/or ask me to explain it further if you like./)

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klogconsole gone
by Mark Hounschell 25 Jul '22

25 Jul '22

klogconsole - Tells the kernel to what terminal it should copy messages #'klogconsole -r 7' sends kernel messages to vt7. In leap-15 klogconsole was in the util-linux package. The command is now gone. How does one do this now? Regards Mark

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mount from tumbleweed to a win 98 shared folder
by Simon Becherer 24 Jul '22

24 Jul '22

Hi, in a local network from tumbleweed, i must have one or two times a year (or less) access to a windows 98 system running at a mechanical machine (no way to update). up to maybe last year (maybe the year before) this line was ok inside my automount file: plasma_c -fstype=cifs,username=yyyyyyyy,password=xxxxxx,uid=1000,gid=100,vers=1.0,sec=lanman,servern=yyyyyyy ://192.168.0.4/C i know sambafilesystem has disabled, oder meanwhile maybe drop unsecure lanman and maybe other things. so i got a error: kernel: Use of the less secure dialect vers=1.0 is not recommended unless required for access to very old servers kernel: CIFS: VFS: Use of the less secure dialect vers=1.0 is not recommended unless required for access to very old servers kernel: bad security option: lanman kernel: CIFS: VFS: bad security option: lanman is there a way to still access win98 from actual cifs/samba ???? man mount.cifs say: sec=arg Security mode. Allowed values are: • none - attempt to connection as a null user (no name) • krb5 - Use Kerberos version 5 authentication • krb5i - Use Kerberos authentication and forcibly enable packet signing • ntlm - Use NTLM password hashing • ntlmi - Use NTLM password hashing and force packet signing • ntlmv2 - Use NTLMv2 password hashing • ntlmv2i - Use NTLMv2 password hashing and force packet signing • ntlmssp - Use NTLMv2 password hashing encapsulated in Raw NTLMSSP message • ntlmsspi - Use NTLMv2 password hashing encapsulated in Raw NTLMSSP message, and force packet signing i tried ntlm: kernel: bad security option: ntlm kernel: CIFS: VFS: bad security option: ntlm then i tried none and i tried to do not use the "sec=...": kernel: CIFS: Attempting to mount \\192.168.0.4\C kernel: CIFS: VFS: cifs_mount failed w/return code = -13 ok, this could be, because in wind98 a username and password is set. did anybody know how to disable username and password in win98 (if this could work) or get access to the win98 shared folder with actual cifs/samba with the username/password on the win98 side ? and yes, google is not my friend, i found nothing useful. simoN -- www.becherer.de ----------------------------------------------- - Das ist die vorlaeufig endgueltige Version! - Herbert C. Maier Dipl.-Ing. (FH) -----------------------------------------------

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local mirror setup - no new rsync files
by Klaus Vink Slott 23 Jul '22

23 Jul '22

Can anybody spot what I am doing wrong? I have been banging my head in the wall for a couple of days now, I must have overlooked something obvious: I hacked this together: > #!/bin/bash > TDIR=/mirror > while read REPO > do > mkdir -p $TDIR/$REPO > /usr/bin/rsync -rlptyH --exclude-from=$TDIR/dontfetch.lst rsync.opensuse.org::opensuse-full/opensuse/$REPO/ $TDIR/$REPO --delay-updates --delete-delay -hi --stats > echo "Last fetch completed at $(date +'%Y%m%d-%H%M%S')" > $TDIR/$REPO/LastUpdated.txt > done < <(zypper repos --uri -E | cut -f7 -d'|' | cut -f4- -d'/' | grep '15.3/' | sed 's:/*$::') the last zypper statement generates the following list: > ~> echo $(zypper repos --uri -E | cut -f7 -d'|' | cut -f4- -d'/' | grep '15.3/' | sed 's:/*$::') > distribution/leap/15.3/repo/oss update/leap/15.3/backports distribution/leap/15.3/repo/non-oss distribution/leap/15.3/repo/oss update/leap/15.3/sle update/leap/15.3/oss update/leap/15.3/non-oss and > localadm@mirror:~> cat /mirror/dontfetch.lst > ARCHIVES.gz > aarch64/ > ppc/ > ppc64le/ > s390x/ > src Problem is that after the initial download ~ 4 days ago, it does not see any new files. Latest example: On a host not using my local mirror: > ~> rpm -qa | grep 'glibc-2.31-150300' > glibc-2.31-150300.37.1.x86_64 but on my mirror dont get any glibc > 31 > ~> find /mirror -name "glibc-2.31-150300*" > /mirror/update/leap/15.3/sle/x86_64/glibc-2.31-150300.20.7.x86_64.rpm > /mirror/update/leap/15.3/sle/x86_64/glibc-2.31-150300.26.5.x86_64.rpm > /mirror/update/leap/15.3/sle/x86_64/glibc-2.31-150300.26.5.x86_64.slsa_provenance.json > /mirror/update/leap/15.3/sle/x86_64/glibc-2.31-150300.26.5_150300.31.2.x86_64.drpm > /mirror/update/leap/15.3/sle/x86_64/glibc-2.31-150300.31.2.x86_64.slsa_provenance.json > /mirror/update/leap/15.3/sle/x86_64/glibc-2.31-150300.9.12.1.x86_64.rpm -- Regards Klaus

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Getting started with Wine
by Siard 21 Jul '22

21 Jul '22

Having only a few 32-bit Windows applications, I installed wine-32bit in TW. But whatever I try with wine, I get these errors: $ wine ./<program>.exe err:environ:read_nls_file failed to load /usr/bin/../share/wine/nls/locale.nls err:environ:read_nls_file failed to load /usr/bin/../share/wine/nls/l_intl.nls wine: could not exec wineserver Has anybody succeeded in getting wine to work in TW?

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Tumbleweed + KDE: scripts for post-install configuration and upgrade
by Nicolas Kovacs 18 Jul '22

18 Jul '22

Hi, I've been a happy user of OpenSUSE Leap since 15.1, but it looks like Tumbleweed gets all the love, so I decided to give it a spin. Here's my post-install configuration script to turn a vanilla Tumbleweed + KDE installation into a full-blown Linux desktop with all the bells and whistles: https://gitlab.com/kikinovak/opensuse I've also included a script to upgrade OpenSUSE Leap to Tumbleweed, and I've tested it successfully on Leap 15.2, 15.3 and 15.4. Check out the detailed README on the page and post your requests and suggestions here. Cheers from the burning South of France, Niki -- Microlinux - Solutions informatiques durables 7, place de l'église - 30730 Montpezat Site : https://www.microlinux.fr Blog : https://blog.microlinux.fr Mail : info(a)microlinux.fr Tél. : 04 66 63 10 32 Mob. : 06 51 80 12 12

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15.4 Gimp - Howto Open .heic files? Installed heif plugin -- still won't work?
by David C. Rankin 18 Jul '22

18 Jul '22

All, How do I open .heic files with gimp? The heif plugin is supposed to do it, but after installing, gimp doesn't recognize the format. All I really need to do is convert the damn things to .jpg, but openSUSE doesn't offer libheif-examples which contains heif-convert that does the job. I've built from github, but get an error: $ heif-convert IMG_6267.heic IMG_6267.jpg File contains 1 image Could not decode image: 0: Unsupported feature: Unsupported codec It is using the proper libheif: $ ldd ~/bin/heif-convert linux-vdso.so.1 (0x00007ffc2c8d5000) libheif.so.1 => /home/david/tmp/libheifbld/libheif/libheif.so.1 (0x00007fbb14ab1000) libjpeg.so.62 => /usr/lib64/libjpeg.so.62 (0x00007fbb1480a000) libpng16.so.16 => /usr/lib64/libpng16.so.16 (0x00007fbb145c7000) libz.so.1 => /lib64/libz.so.1 (0x00007fbb143b0000) libstdc++.so.6 => /usr/lib64/libstdc++.so.6 (0x00007fbb13f9d000) libm.so.6 => /lib64/libm.so.6 (0x00007fbb13c52000) libgcc_s.so.1 => /lib64/libgcc_s.so.1 (0x00007fbb13a39000) libc.so.6 => /lib64/libc.so.6 (0x00007fbb13644000) libaom.so.3 => /usr/lib64/libaom.so.3 (0x00007fbb12e80000) libdav1d.so.5 => /usr/lib64/libdav1d.so.5 (0x00007fbb12afd000) /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x00007fbb14de5000) libpthread.so.0 => /lib64/libpthread.so.0 (0x00007fbb128da000) libdl.so.2 => /lib64/libdl.so.2 (0x00007fbb126d6000) Anybody have a way to either make gimp work of convert these files in 15.4? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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Can't log into the forums
by Jon Cosby 17 Jul '22

17 Jul '22

I created a new account, but I can't log into the forums. I keep getting directed back to the idp portal. My credentials are accepted there, and I can log into the bug tracker. Who can I contact about this? Jon Cosby

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WiFi fails to authenticate several times.
by Jeffrey Taylor 17 Jul '22

17 Jul '22

I am using NetworkManager. When my laptop is opened after being suspended, it takes several minutes for the WiFi interface to come up. 'journalctl -f' reports several failed attempts to connect to the WiFi network: ul 17 08:48:27 viajero NetworkManager[1440]: <info> [1658065707.1758] device (wlan0): state change: prepare -> config (reason 'none', sys-iface-state: 'managed') Jul 17 08:48:27 viajero NetworkManager[1440]: <info> [1658065707.1762] device (wlan0): Activation: (wifi) access point 'Bearhouse' has security, but secrets are required. Jul 17 08:48:27 viajero NetworkManager[1440]: <info> [1658065707.1762] device (wlan0): state change: config -> need-auth (reason 'none', sys-iface-state: 'managed') Jul 17 08:48:27 viajero NetworkManager[1440]: <info> [1658065707.1765] sup-iface[0x55a80ad74130,wlan0]: wps: type pbc start... Jul 17 08:48:27 viajero NetworkManager[1440]: <info> [1658065707.2047] device (wlan0): supplicant interface state: ready -> disabled Jul 17 08:48:27 viajero NetworkManager[1440]: <warn> [1658065707.2060] device (wlan0): no secrets: No agents were available for this request. Jul 17 08:48:27 viajero NetworkManager[1440]: <info> [1658065707.2060] device (wlan0): state change: need-auth -> failed (reason 'no-secrets', sys-iface-state: 'managed') Jul 17 08:48:27 viajero NetworkManager[1440]: <warn> [1658065707.2074] device (wlan0): Activation: failed for connection 'Bearhouse' Jul 17 08:48:27 viajero NetworkManager[1440]: <info> [1658065707.2077] device (wlan0): state change: failed -> disconnected (reason 'none', sys-iface-state: 'managed') I don't understand what is going on here, too many moving parts. What agent is missing? Sometimes the error message mentions authentication taking too long. Fixes and explanation is welcome, Jeffrey

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laptop battery charging stategy (Plasma)
by gumb 17 Jul '22

17 Jul '22

I've heard and read many a time over recent years that the way batteries should be charged has changed. I've always been someone who lets devices run right down as low as I can before charging them back up to 100%. With one or two exceptions, this strategy still seems to work remarkably well for me, regardless of what others say. My previous Nokia phone would run for days under each charge, my current Android one goes five days or more between charges (I'm a light phone user), but conscious of this continual hounding from random people who may or may not be tech-inclined, and having both a laptop and a phone that offer flexi-charging options, I decided maybe I should change that strategy. So following a similar setting I just made on the Android phone, I set the Flexi-charging option in my Clevo laptop BIOS. It only allows adjustments in increments of 10%, so I set the lower Start point to 50% and the upper Stop point to 90%. Though I have a laptop, I almost always use it sat at my desk with it plugged in and hooked up to a bigger monitor and other peripherals. I like the versatility of taking my main PC with me on the odd occasion I go and stay with friends or family, but I don't frequent cafés with wifi because I'm not a hipster, and I'm terribly uncomfortable having the laptop on my lap or anywhere else. So for most of its life, it is plugged in being constantly topped up to 100%. Once or month or so I try to unplug it and use it on battery to let the battery drain and refill. When I do that, the laptop invariably throws a fit and suddenly warns about critical battery level even though it's still at about 45%, and switches off within a few seconds. I get these weird messages in my notifications: Message from syslogd@linux at Jul 3 15:34:04 ... kernel:[ 87.166486][ C0] Uhhuh. NMI received for unknown reason 20 on CPU 0. Message from syslogd@linux at Jul 3 15:34:04 ... kernel:[ 87.166498][ C0] Do you have a strange power saving mode enabled? Message from syslogd@linux at Jul 3 15:34:04 ... kernel:[ 87.166500][ C0] Dazed and confused, but trying to continue I don't think there's anything strange about my power-saving settings, it seems more likely the continual charging fools something in the subsystem as regards the actual charge level. Using flexi-charging is supposed to make battery reporting LESS accurate, but it's clearly already problematic. And usually, once I plug the laptop back in, the charge level shows back at 45%. So now having changed the BIOS setting, I see in Plasma (5.24) that the battery icon shows permanently in the system tray, because it's being constantly topped up... to 90%. I thought maybe what would happen is that it would decharge to 50% and then the charging would kick in and bring it back to 90%. I don't know if that would be better or worse, I can't see as hundreds of charge cycles will help, and in any case there's no options to set it to behave any differently, that would require additional software. Some of you must have a similar setup. What have your results been like with whatever charging strategy you use? I've had this laptop three years now and according to the Plasma Info Centre the battery health is at 94%, so it hasn't weathered badly. Should I abandon this experiment and disable the flexi-charging? The battery is replaceable anyway so if I really needed maximum battery life one day on this machine I could get another one. gumb

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Anydesk not working on Tumbleweed
by Nicolas Kovacs 17 Jul '22

17 Jul '22

Hi, I'm currently experimenting extensively with Tumbleweed on a few VMs and a sandbox PC. So far, everything looks good, and I have a few details to work out. Anydesk works perfectly under Leap, but fails to install correctly under Tumbleweed, since it depends on some obscure legacy library which I don't happen to recall right now. So I decided to go for the Flatpak version. I configured the Flathub repository and installed com.anydesk.Anydesk. I restarted the PC (since it's my first use of a Flatpak app here), clicked on Anydesk in the main menu, clicked again on the Anydesk icon in the notification area, but unfortunately, the application doesn't seem to work. Has anyone had more luck with Anydesk under Tumbleweed ? Cheers, Niki -- Microlinux - Solutions informatiques durables 7, place de l'église - 30730 Montpezat Site : https://www.microlinux.fr Blog : https://blog.microlinux.fr Mail : info(a)microlinux.fr Tél. : 04 66 63 10 32 Mob. : 06 51 80 12 12

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mouse problems OS 15.3, KDE 5.76, Nvidia GeForce RTX 3070 Ti
by Daniel Bauer 17 Jul '22

17 Jul '22

Hello, since two days (may since last updates?) I have strange problems with my mouse: it doesn't move smoothly, it's as it makes little pauses and then jumps to a next position. Or, when I resize a window dragging a corner, focus suddenly jumps to the window below. I changed the battery of my logitech wireless mouse, no change. So I changed mouse and USB-receiver for another mouse/receiver of the same model - same problems. All worked perfect until yesterday or the day before. It is not all the time, it started after some hours uptime, using gimp and digikam at the same time. I logged out and in again, but no change now. There is not much processor nor memory use according to gkrellm. temperatures are low. It's an intel i9 with 64mb memory. For what can I search (and where?) for hints for the problem, or does anybody have the same problem and knows what to do? -- Daniel Bauer photographer Basel Málaga https://www.patreon.com/danielbauer https://www.daniel-bauer.com

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Kernel Security Update - RETBLEED - Can we turn mitigation On/Off?
by David C. Rankin 17 Jul '22

17 Jul '22

All, The kernel security update described on the announce-list listed the following, among other, problems addressed: The RETBLEED potential leak of info had been in the news the past week or so and a patch was anticipated. However, in discussing the fix, it can affect performance from 9 - 30%. Also discussed was it's "theoretical" use as an exploit to manipulate CPU branch prediction to glean information about kernel security details. - CVE-2022-29900, CVE-2022-29901: Fixed the RETBLEED attack, a new Spectre like Branch Target Buffer attack, that can leak arbitrary kernel information (bsc#1199657). My question here is depending on the impact to performance on any given setup, is there a kernel parameter we can pass at boot to turn it On/Off if the performance impact is severe? The second one is more of a chuckle and a wonder of just how long this bug may have existed - CVE-2022-33981: Fixed use-after-free in floppy driver (bsc#1200692) :) -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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Update error
by James Knott 16 Jul '22

16 Jul '22

Since installing Leap 15.4, I've been getting an error "Failed to cache rpm database (1)" after Software Update on my notebook computer. I don't get this on my desktop system. Any idea what might be causing it? tnx jk

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Custom default configuration for KDE : Taskbar vs. Kickoff
by Nicolas Kovacs 16 Jul '22

16 Jul '22

Hi, I'm currently experimenting with an OpenSUSE Tumbleweed VM. I'd like to slightly customize the default KDE configuration to eventually install it in our local school. No Ansible here, I just put everything in a bone-headed shell script with a handful of nifty functions: https://gitlab.com/kikinovak/opensuse/-/blob/master/setup.sh 1. Customize the taskbar ------------------------ The icons displayed in the taskbar are defined in /usr/share/plasma/plasmoids/org.kde.plasma.taskmanager/contents/config/main.xml. I changed that configuration with a series of sed one-liners, and here's what I have now: <default>applications:org.kde.dolphin.desktop, applications:firefox.desktop, applications:thunderbird.desktop, applications:libreoffice-startcenter.desktop </default> Now when my existing user logs out and logs back in, he or she gets to see this new default layout, with icons for Dolphin, Firefox, Thunderbird and LibreOffice in the taskbar on the lower left side of the screen. So far so good. 2. Customize the Kickoff menu ----------------------------- Now I'm trying to do the same with the Kickoff menu, which sports a whole series of icons in the favorite apps section. The default Kickoff menu is defined in /usr/share/plasma/plasmoids/org.kde.plasma.kickoff/contents/config/main.xml. Here's what my custom version looks like in the edited section of this file: <default>firefox.desktop,thunderbird.desktop,libreoffice-startcenter.desktop,org.kde.dolphin.desktop</default> Now here's the thing. This new customized default configuration is applied as expected for every *newly created* user. But only for those. Unfortunately *existing users* keep their initial configuration. I tried to figure out what configuration files keep the configuration of every user's Kickoff menu in ~/.config and/or ~/.local, but I think you have to be a member of some Secret Plasma Customization Cult to have access to this information. :o) Question: how do I apply my custom Kickoff menu configuration to existing users ? Any suggestions ? Cheers from the burning South of France, Niki -- Microlinux - Solutions informatiques durables 7, place de l'église - 30730 Montpezat Site : https://www.microlinux.fr Blog : https://blog.microlinux.fr Mail : info(a)microlinux.fr Tél. : 04 66 63 10 32 Mob. : 06 51 80 12 12

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[oS-en] Huh? Failed to parse address 'fe80::1%wlan1'
by Carlos E. R. 15 Jul '22

15 Jul '22

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I see in the warning log (15.3): <3.4> 2022-07-15 07:49:05 Legolas avahi-daemon 1259 - - Failed to parse address 'fe80::1%wlan1', ignoring. I don't know where it is getting that address from, nor if it is correct syntax. - -- Cheers Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE Leap 15.2 at Legolas) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iHoEARECADoWIQQZEb51mJKK1KpcU/W1MxgcbY1H1QUCYtECChwccm9iaW4ubGlz dGFzQHRlbGVmb25pY2EubmV0AAoJELUzGBxtjUfVpjcAn3CUm3HyP6I9A9Fz+7Yi 1Ijs0ie7AJ9nZH4Iz8CJ6bHNSaT9/KxcWVDX9A== =kAU9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Where do I create a bugzilla feature request?
by J Leslie Turriff 15 Jul '22

15 Jul '22

In order to allow a virtual machine guest exclusive access to a device (e.g. a GPU card), there is a long, involved process for configuring the system to exempt it from being connected to the kernel. I would like to create a feature request for something like a YaST module to do this, but what part of the system would it belong to? Two possibilities come to mind: YaST Boot Loader Which of these would be the right place to make the request? Leslie -- Operating System: Linux Distribution: openSUSE Leap 15.4 x86_64 Desktop Environment: Trinity

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15.4 - install dconf-editor to fix gtk3 file-chooser not sorting dirs first
by David C. Rankin 15 Jul '22

15 Jul '22

All, One annoying wrinkle with gtk apps in 15.4 is the default file-chooser does not sort directories first leaving an alphabetical sorting with directories and files jumbled together. There is a fix (regardless of the desktop you use), install dconf-editor and then set: org->gtk->settings->file-chooser sort-directories-first True Now things look normal in the gtk file-chooser. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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TW 20220710: ibus applet is not autostarting anymore
by Mathias Homann 12 Jul '22

12 Jul '22

Hi, I just noticed that the ibus panel applet isn't autostarting anymore - even though the're is a valid(?) desktop file in /etc/xdg/autostart. and of course - nothing obvious in the logs or the journal , and manually starting "ibus-autostart" from a commandline works without errors... All the other stuff that is set up in /etc/xdg/autostart seems to work fine so any help would be appreciated :) Cheers Mathias -- Mathias Homann Mathias.Homann(a)openSUSE.org OBS: lemmy04 Jabber (XMPP): lemmy(a)tuxonline.tech Matrix: @mathias:eregion.de IRC: [Lemmy] on liberachat and ircnet (bouncer active) keybase: https://keybase.io/lemmy gpg key fingerprint: 8029 2240 F4DD 7776 E7D2 C042 6B8E 029E 13F2 C102

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Why are packages in 15.4 OSS repository NOT receiving SUPPORT?
by David C. Rankin 12 Jul '22

12 Jul '22

What is going on? FreeCAD in the main OSS 15.4 repository is BROKEN. (It segfaults) I file a bug to have this package in OSS fixed and I get a response: <quote> Comment # 3 on bug 1200583 from Stefan Brüns FreeCAD works fine on TW, and thats the only thing I will support. For 15.4, you are on your own. You are receiving this mail because: You reported the bug. </quote> 15.4 is a new release and it has a broken package in OSS -- Why isn't that going to be fixed??? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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sound shift with avidemux 3
by jdd＠dodin.org 09 Jul '22

09 Jul '22

Hello, I've jut been hit by an avidemux problem, may be worth a bugreport if not already fixed :-) however openSUSE Leap 15.3 seems to use the same 2.8.0 version as the appimage available on the avidemux side. The problem is pretty odd: the sound is shifted some seconds late. When the singer stop singing and drop the mic, one can still hear his voice. Of course not on the source (not an echo :-(). This seems to happen only on special situation. I'm cutting videos from a Canon HF G30 camcorder. Full HD, 28Mb/s 50fps. When loading, avidemux write it's own index file, then ask for something to fix (This video contains B-frames, but presentation time stamps (PTS) are either missing or monotonically increasing. Avidemux can try to reconstruct correct PTS by decoding the entire video. This may take a lot of time. Proceed?), I always say "yes", and have to wait around 3 mn (20 minutes video, 4Gb MTS file). no problem there. I select a part of the video (say a song, cut to i-frame), write it as raw copy mkv file, delete the part already done and go for the next. At a moment I have a song half on the present file and half on the next, so I append the next one, and so on. The shift may appear after several append It's not easy to see, cause my video is not a closeup. The resulting file is much too big to be shared, and the problem is not immediately visible, so I don't know what to do to help debugging (but right now I'm obliged to redo one day work :-() any clue? worth a bugzilla? thanks jdd -- http://dodin.org http://valeriedodin.com

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tips or suggestions qcow2 on limbo x86
by visqajin＠yahoo.com 08 Jul '22

08 Jul '22

hello, i have come across cloud images. i would like to try on my android device. does anybody has experience running qcow2 files on limbo x86? if so, please provide suggestoins: which image should i use?(1). my primary purpose is to gain familiarity with os while i am on move (it takes 1 hour to reach my office, so i have plenty of time). (1) https://mirrorcache-us.opensuse.org/download/distribution/openSUSE-stable/a… regards, visja

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zypper up reinstalls 15.4??
by David C. Rankin 07 Jul '22

07 Jul '22

Here is a new one, Doing a normal zypper up on 15.4 I find 15.4 will be reinstalled - why? The following 3 packages are going to be upgraded: MozillaThunderbird openSUSE-release openSUSE-release-ftp The following product is going to be reinstalled: "openSUSE Leap 15.4" 3 packages to upgrade. Overall download size: 54.7 MiB. Already cached: 0 B. After the operation, additional 27.8 KiB will be used. Continue? [y/n/v/...? shows all options] (y): Is it simply due to the openSUSE-release openSUSE-release-ftp packages? (I suspect so). It seems a bit overkill to scare the new user with: The following product is going to be reinstalled: "openSUSE Leap 15.4" I know it caused me to do a double-take.... -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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Zypper vs. package caching : solution needed
by Nicolas Kovacs 05 Jul '22

05 Jul '22

Hi, Our local school has a painfully slow Internet connection, and there's no way to get a faster one. We have about two dozen desktop clients, and before starting the dist-upgrade from Leap 15.3 to Leap 15.4, I'm looking for a simple solution to avoid repeated downloads which would take ages. In the past I've fiddled with Apt-Cacher-NG, which sometimes works (sort of) for some repositories, but in daily practice it's unfortunately too buggy to be really usable. I've taken some notes about Apt-Cacher-NG and published them on my blog: https://blog.microlinux.fr/apt-cacher-ng-centos-7-opensuse/ Next, I went for a bone-headed solution consisting in sharing /var/cache/zypp/packages over NFS. On my local server (running Rocky Linux 8) I exported /srv/packages to the local network, and then all OpenSUSE clients are mounting this export on /var/cache/zypp/packages. Repositories are configured with the --keep-packages option, so the cache is not erased after each download/installation. Well, in theory. In practice, here's how it works (or not). All my desktop clients have a shared /var/cache/zypp/packages mounted over NFS. I perform my first upgrade on the first client, and things go smoothly. The cache is filled with almost 1 GB of downloaded RPMS and the corresponding metadata. So far so good. Now when I move on to the second desktop client, first thing I do is setup the official repos for Leap 15.4 before doing the upgrade with 'zypper addrepo --keep-packages etc.' And here's the thing: this operation WIPES THE CACHE. Which, as far as I can tell, is Zypper being particularly stupid. "Hey Zypper, please add these repositories but also please keep all the packages in the cache." "OK I'm setting up the repositories but I'm wiping the cache NOW. Duh." I spent some time reading and re-reading 'man zypper' but apparently there seem to be no more options to tell zypper to *never* *ever* wipe the cache in /var/cache/zypp/packages. Any suggestions ? Cheers from the sunny South of France, Niki -- Microlinux - Solutions informatiques durables 7, place de l'église - 30730 Montpezat Site : https://www.microlinux.fr Blog : https://blog.microlinux.fr Mail : info(a)microlinux.fr Tél. : 04 66 63 10 32 Mob. : 06 51 80 12 12

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Server & desktop estate management
by Nicolas Kovacs 04 Jul '22

04 Jul '22

Hi, My question is not really specific to OpenSUSE, but here goes. On the latest count, I'm managing about a hundred installations: root servers, local servers, desktop PCs and laptops. Some of these are in our local school, some for a handful of companies all over France and even some in Belgium and Switzerland. Root servers are mostly Scaleway rentals in France. And then the inevitable desktops managed for friends and families. Over the years I've been using various methods to keep track of all these installations, notably specificities like BIOS configuration details, exotic hardware, extra applications besides those I usually install, etc. In the beginning it was just a simple text file per machine, then I moved on to the CherryTree note-taking application, but I'm still not satisfied with the current solution. Usually computer estate management software like GLPI or OSTicket can be relatively complex. I prefer to stick to the KISS (Keep It Simple Stupid) principle. So I'm curious: what methods do you use to keep an overview over your installations ? In a nutshell, the sort of file or series of files where you can get all the relevant information about an installation in a quick glance ? Thanks & cheers from France, Niki -- Microlinux - Solutions informatiques durables 7, place de l'église - 30730 Montpezat Site : https://www.microlinux.fr Blog : https://blog.microlinux.fr Mail : info(a)microlinux.fr Tél. : 04 66 63 10 32 Mob. : 06 51 80 12 12

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SOLVED Sane forgot genesys driver - a link from 2006 helped
by Markus Feilner 03 Jul '22

03 Jul '22

hi, my scanner was gone today. I mean it's literally here besides me, but my Tumbleweed had forgotten about it. Maybe because I don't use it that frequently. I had to add the line "genesys" (no quotes!) in /etc/sane.d/dll, which was empty, then Yast could configure it. Without that, Yast would complain: failed to configure genesys. This seems like an old mistake popping up again. Thanks to my former colleagues I could fix that on my system: https://www.linux-community.de/fragen/problem-mit-sane-genesys-genesys-konn… -- Best Regards - Mit freundlichen Grüßen, Markus Feilner, Feilner IT - 20 years of open services - https://nitter.net/mfeilner ------------------------- Digital sovereignty in three words: "Exit Strategy First!" Digitale Souveränität in Drei Worten. ------------------------- Digitale Souveränität, Nachhaltigkeit, Dokumentation Linux, Security, Strategy, Politics, Journalism, Networking. https://www.feilner-it.net, 93059 Regensburg Wöhrdstr. 10, +49 170 302 7092 (+Signal) PGP: 40A3C306F96133067C11CFD9A958A906268C9F0A http://www.feilner-it.net/files/MFpub.asc Xing: http://www.xing.com/profile/Markus_Feilner LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/markusfeilner @mfeilner: Matrix, Jabber, Skype, Twitter, Diaspora, ...

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15.4 Install/Remove java-11-openjdk-javadoc leaves dangling symlinks??
by David C. Rankin 03 Jul '22

03 Jul '22

All, Is this a bug that needs reporting? On 15.4 I installed (zypper in) and removed (zypper rm) java-11-openjdk-javadoc. After removal dangling links were left at: # l /etc/alternatives/javadocdir lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 38 Jul 2 19:23 /etc/alternatives/javadocdir -> /usr/share/javadoc/java-11-openjdk/api and # l /usr/share/javadoc/java lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 28 Jul 2 19:23 /usr/share/javadoc/java -> /etc/alternatives/javadocdir Is it a bug? I certainly think the links should have been unlinked on package removal. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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15.4 - Thunderbird 90.10 - filters sorting mail into arbitrary folders
by David C. Rankin 02 Jul '22

02 Jul '22

All, I just got a shock today with Thunderbird 91.10 on 15.4. First indication something was whacked was 1/2 the mail from the linux-kernel list was in junk. Then checking the linux-raid folder I found all the messages from Simon on the factory list there. Has anyone else seen filter oddness or corruption on the current Thunderbird? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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sharp multifunction mx3060n printer
by Simon Becherer 02 Jul '22

02 Jul '22

Hi, not a specific opensuse question, but i try to ask first here: anybody using a sharp mx3060n (network) printer? i bought one used machine, printing fine, with the ppd file from sharp. (throwing away my more than 20 year old qms-minolta desklaser(s) 6100 - anybody need spare-parts or color toner?) but what is a good way to use the scanner and maybe the fax functionality? as i understood, scanner is able to scan to a network drive or the internal harddisk, and the internal harddisk could somehow used as a network drive. maybe its also possible to fax something if copy to that drive. but i have not understand how to set it up (printerside) or if there is a better way, so that i could use xane to scan direct from opensuse. (my preferred approach) regards, simoN -- www.becherer.de

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[oS-EN] Thunderbird trouble
by Carlos E. R. 01 Jul '22

01 Jul '22

Hi, After an update yesterday on this laptop (Leap 15.3) I'm seeing this messages, continuously, on the log: > <1.4> 2022-06-29 08:26:44 Legolas - 24006 - - ###!!! [Parent][DispatchAsyncMessage] Error: PClientManager::Msg_ExpectFutureClientSource Processing error: message was deserialized, but the handler returned false (indicating failure) > <1.4> 2022-06-29 08:26:44 Legolas - 24006 - - IPDL protocol error: Handler returned error code! > <1.4> 2022-06-29 08:26:44 Legolas - 24006 - - ###!!! [Parent][DispatchAsyncMessage] Error: PClientManager::Msg_ForgetFutureClientSource Processing error: message was deserialized, but the handler returned false (indicating failure) > <1.4> 2022-06-29 08:26:58 Legolas - 24006 - - IPDL protocol error: Handler returned error code! > <1.4> 2022-06-29 08:26:58 Legolas - 24006 - - ###!!! [Parent][DispatchAsyncMessage] Error: PClientManager::Msg_ExpectFutureClientSource Processing error: message was deserialized, but the handler returned false (indicating failure) > <1.4> 2022-06-29 08:26:58 Legolas - 24006 - - IPDL protocol error: Handler returned error code! > <1.4> 2022-06-29 08:26:58 Legolas - 24006 - - ###!!! [Parent][DispatchAsyncMessage] Error: PClientManager::Msg_ForgetFutureClientSource Processing error: message was deserialized, but the handler returned false (indicating failure) > <1.4> 2022-06-29 08:28:32 Legolas - 24006 - - IPDL protocol error: Handler returned error code! > <1.4> 2022-06-29 08:28:32 Legolas - 24006 - - ###!!! [Parent][DispatchAsyncMessage] Error: PClientManager::Msg_ExpectFutureClientSource Processing error: message was deserialized, but the handler returned false (indicating failure) > <1.4> 2022-06-29 08:28:39 Legolas - 24006 - - IPDL protocol error: Handler returned error code! > <1.4> 2022-06-29 08:28:39 Legolas - 24006 - - ###!!! [Parent][DispatchAsyncMessage] Error: PClientManager::Msg_ForgetFutureClientSource Processing error: message was deserialized, but the handler returned false (indicating failure) > <1.4> 2022-06-29 08:28:56 Legolas - 24006 - - IPDL protocol error: Handler returned error code! > <1.4> 2022-06-29 08:28:56 Legolas - 24006 - - ###!!! [Parent][DispatchAsyncMessage] Error: PClientManager::Msg_ExpectFutureClientSource Processing error: message was deserialized, but the handler returned false (indicating failure) > <1.4> 2022-06-29 08:28:57 Legolas - 24006 - - IPDL protocol error: Handler returned error code! > <1.4> 2022-06-29 08:28:57 Legolas - 24006 - - ###!!! [Parent][DispatchAsyncMessage] Error: PClientManager::Msg_ForgetFutureClientSource Processing error: message was deserialized, but the handler returned false (indicating failure) > cer@Legolas:~> ps afxu | grep 24006 > cer 24006 17.9 31.6 4422280 1244816 tty2 Sl+ 07:55 6:48 | | \_ /usr/lib64/thunderbird/thunderbird-bin > cer 24087 0.0 1.4 2588284 57256 tty2 Sl+ 07:55 0:01 | | \_ /usr/lib64/thunderbird/thunderbird-bin -contentproc -childID 1 -isForBrowser -prefsLen 1 -prefMapSize 329614 -jsInit 285636 -parentBuildID 20220525135609 -appdir /usr/lib64/thunderbird 24006 tab > cer 24159 0.0 1.3 2574900 52292 tty2 Sl+ 07:56 0:01 | | \_ /usr/lib64/thunderbird/thunderbird-bin -contentproc -childID 2 -isForBrowser -prefsLen 2167 -prefMapSize 329614 -jsInit 285636 -parentBuildID 20220525135609 -appdir /usr/lib64/thunderbird 24006 tab > cer 27607 0.0 0.0 10248 764 pts/12 S+ 08:33 0:00 | | \_ grep --color=auto 24006 > cer@Legolas:~> How do I stop that? -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE 15.3 (Legolas))

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[oS-EN] New sound problem
by Carlos E. R. 28 Jun '22

28 Jun '22

Hi, I have a new sound problem. The machine is my previous desktop machine, maybe 10 year old, running a relatively new system with Leap 15.3, and XFCE desktop. I watch movies on it, and the headphones do not work. Sound taken from the line.out output of the sound card goes to the loud speakers, and they work. If I connect the headphones on the front, I hear a very low hiss on them; the loudspeakers go silent, but no actual sound on the headphones. I see on the "audio mixer" gadget that output changes from "line out (plugged in)" to "headphones (plugged in)", so they are detected. But if I take out the jack just slightly, I can get sound on both devices. The mixer tool says that I have just line out. So I get working headphones if I tune down the external volume control on the external speakers. This means that the hardware front jack is actually connected and works, but the software is not working, once it detects the headphones are connected and does something about it. I don't know what info to provide, but here goes what I can think of: Elesar:~ # hwinfo --sound 08: PCI 300.0: 0403 Audio device [Created at pci.386] Unique ID: svHJ.YhraNp3EzIA Parent ID: B35A.Ap1NNKytTd3 SysFS ID: /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1c.0/0000:02:00.0/0000:03:00.0 SysFS BusID: 0000:03:00.0 Hardware Class: sound Model: "Creative SB1040 PCI Express" Vendor: pci 0x1102 "Creative Labs" Device: pci 0x0009 "CA0110 [Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Audio]" SubVendor: pci 0x1102 "Creative Labs" SubDevice: pci 0x0018 "SB1040 PCI Express" Driver: "snd_hda_intel" Driver Modules: "snd_hda_intel" Memory Range: 0xfe6fc000-0xfe6fffff (rw,non-prefetchable) IRQ: 16 (17396 events) Module Alias: "pci:v00001102d00000009sv00001102sd00000018bc04sc03i00" Driver Info #0: Driver Status: snd_hda_intel is active Driver Activation Cmd: "modprobe snd_hda_intel" Config Status: cfg=yes, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown Attached to: #14 (PCI bridge) Elesar:~ # Elesar:~ # inxi --audio --admin Audio: Device-1: Creative Labs CA0110 [Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Audio] driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 03:00.0 chip ID: 1102:0009 Sound Server: ALSA v: k5.3.18-150300.59.71-default Elesar:~ # -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from Elesar, using openSUSE Leap 15.3)

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Probleme beim Drucken von PDFs?
by Markus Feilner 27 Jun '22

27 Jun '22

Hallo, hat noch jemand Probleme mit dem Drucken von PDFs? Ich finde mehr und mehr PDFs von Webseiten, die nicht sauber unter Cups drucken lassen. Fehlermeldunge beziehen sich beispielsweise auf fehlende Color Profiles, Cups client zählt die Seiten hoch, kommt aber nie zum Abschluss, das PDF hängt in der Queue und blockiert auch folgende Druckaufträge. Ich suche noch, any help welcome... -- Best Regards - Mit freundlichen Grüßen, Markus Feilner, Feilner IT - 20 years of open services - https://nitter.net/mfeilner ------------------------- Digital sovereignty in three words: "Exit Strategy First!" Digitale Souveränität in Drei Worten. ------------------------- Digitale Souveränität, Nachhaltigkeit, Dokumentation Linux, Security, Strategy, Politics, Journalism, Networking. https://www.feilner-it.net, 93059 Regensburg Wöhrdstr. 10, +49 170 302 7092 (+Signal) PGP: 40A3C306F96133067C11CFD9A958A906268C9F0A http://www.feilner-it.net/files/MFpub.asc Xing: http://www.xing.com/profile/Markus_Feilner LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/markusfeilner @mfeilner: Matrix, Jabber, Skype, Twitter, Diaspora, ...

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leap 15.4 and Update repository with updates from SUSE Linux Enterprise 15
by Mark Hounschell 27 Jun '22

27 Jun '22

First I've seen this. I've recently installed packages like this and NOT seen this. Is it something to worry about? # zypper install somepackage Retrieving repository 'Packman Repository' metadata ..........................................................................................................................................[done] Building repository 'Packman Repository' cache ...............................................................................................................................................[done] Retrieving repository 'Update repository of openSUSE Backports' metadata .....................................................................................................................[done] Building repository 'Update repository of openSUSE Backports' cache ..........................................................................................................................[done] Warning: File 'repomd.xml' from repository 'Update repository with updates from SUSE Linux Enterprise 15' is unsigned. Note: Signing data enables the recipient to verify that no modifications occurred after the data were signed. Accepting data with no, wrong or unknown signature can lead to a corrupted system and in extreme cases even to a system compromise. Note: File 'repomd.xml' is the repositories master index file. It ensures the integrity of the whole repo. Warning: We can't verify that no one meddled with this file, so it might not be trustworthy anymore! You should not continue unless you know it's safe. File 'repomd.xml' from repository 'Update repository with updates from SUSE Linux Enterprise 15' is unsigned, continue? [yes/no] (no): no Retrieving repository 'Update repository with updates from SUSE Linux Enterprise 15' metadata ...............................................................................................[error] Repository 'Update repository with updates from SUSE Linux Enterprise 15' is invalid. [repo-sle-update|http://download.opensuse.org/update/leap/15.4/sle/] Valid metadata not found at specified URL History: - Signature verification failed for repomd.xml - Can't provide /repodata/repomd.xml Please check if the URIs defined for this repository are pointing to a valid repository. Warning: Skipping repository 'Update repository with updates from SUSE Linux Enterprise 15' because of the above error. Some of the repositories have not been refreshed because of an error. Loading repository data... Not seen this.

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SIM/smart card reader
by Dave Howorth 24 Jun '22

24 Jun '22

I've bought a generic USB-based SIM/smart card reader to see if I can read a SIM. It came without any useful instructions or software. I have no idea about the infrastructure of such software/hardware on linux. I've discovered and installed pcsc-lite and pcsc-ccid and pcsc-tools When I plug in the reader, it's reported in the journal: Jun 24 16:46:32 acer-suse kernel: usb 3-9.4.4.4: new full-speed USB device number 12 using xhci_hcd Jun 24 16:46:32 acer-suse mtp-probe[2189]: checking bus 3, device 12: "/sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:14.0/usb3/3-9/3-9.4/3-9.4.4/3-9.4.4.4" Jun 24 16:46:32 acer-suse kernel: usb 3-9.4.4.4: New USB device found, idVendor=2ce3, idProduct=9563 Jun 24 16:46:32 acer-suse kernel: usb 3-9.4.4.4: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=0 Jun 24 16:46:32 acer-suse kernel: usb 3-9.4.4.4: Product: EMV Smartcard Reader Jun 24 16:46:32 acer-suse kernel: usb 3-9.4.4.4: Manufacturer: Generic Jun 24 16:46:32 acer-suse mtp-probe[2189]: bus: 3, device: 12 was not an MTP device pcscd is running but pcsc_scan just says Waiting for the first reader... Anybody know anything about these devices and can advise or point me to good documentation?

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Re: Leap 15.4 installation help
by George Pappap 24 Jun '22

24 Jun '22

Well I can confirm that the 15.4 installer is working now onto this specific system. Thanks everybody for helping. On 6/24/22 12:47, George Pappap wrote: > That was about 15.3. My personal taste is that there is something > wrong with the specific motherboard and the leap installer and how is > managed the legacy and uefi settings. Now i downl > On 6/24/22 12:39, Per Jessen wrote: >> On 24/06/2022 11:20, George Pappap wrote: >>> Thanks for responding and i appreciate. It was a well tested usb >>> stick, i was using it before and after for installations, in other >>> words the installation media was ok. >> >> Okay. >> >> > Unfortunately i have not a screenshot as i > lost my courage and >> decided to install Ubuntu. By the way the installer >>> could proceed the steps with an dell laptop i3 i have too keeping >>> the graphical environment. But with this specific system it was >>> passing into the curl version or yast looks like, with a dialogue >>> asking me to chooce installation media! >> >> That sounds like your media isn't perhaps as valid as you think. >> Checksum failure? >> >>

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Re: Leap 15.4 installation help
by Per Jessen 24 Jun '22

24 Jun '22

On 24/06/2022 11:20, George Pappap wrote: > Thanks for responding and i appreciate. It was a well tested usb stick, > i was using it before and after for installations, in other words the > installation media was ok. Okay. > Unfortunately i have not a screenshot as i > lost my courage and decided to install Ubuntu. By the way the installer > could proceed the steps with an dell laptop i3 i have too keeping the > graphical environment. But with this specific system it was passing > into the curl version or yast looks like, with a dialogue asking me to > chooce installation media! That sounds like your media isn't perhaps as valid as you think. Checksum failure? -- Per Jessen, Herrliberg (24.5°C)

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Leap 15.4 installation help
by George Pappap 24 Jun '22

24 Jun '22

Hello everybody I have a 6 years old still powerful enough pc. I tried many times to install open suse leap 15.3 but failed. What happened is that the installation media send me to something like yast on terminal to choose media, an action always failing whatever i choose. I send you my hardware list. I am looking for someone facing similar problems and how can be fixed. And i am asking if someone installed leap 15.4 into similar hardware. This pc is running now ubuntu 22.04 Best regards George hwinfo --short cpu: AMD FX(tm)-6300 Six-Core Processor, 3500 MHz AMD FX(tm)-6300 Six-Core Processor, 2500 MHz AMD FX(tm)-6300 Six-Core Processor, 1400 MHz AMD FX(tm)-6300 Six-Core Processor, 3500 MHz AMD FX(tm)-6300 Six-Core Processor, 1400 MHz AMD FX(tm)-6300 Six-Core Processor, 3072 MHz keyboard: /dev/input/event5 Dell Universal Receiver /dev/input/event2 China Resource Semico USB Keyboard mouse: /dev/input/mice Dell Universal Receiver scanner: Epson GT-9300UF [Perfection 2400 PHOTO] monitor: LG ELECTRONICS LG FULL HD graphics card: nVidia GK107 [GeForce GT 640] sound: Creative CA0106/CA0111 [SB Live!/Audigy/X-Fi Series] nVidia GK107 HDMI Audio Controller ATI SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) storage: Gigabyte GA-880GMA-USB3 network: enp3s0 Gigabyte Onboard Ethernet network interface: lo Loopback network interface virbr0 Ethernet network interface enp3s0 Ethernet network interface disk: /dev/sdd TOSHIBA DT01ACA1 /dev/sdb SanDisk SDSSDP12 /dev/sdc WDC WD5000LPVX-7 /dev/sda A SP550 partition: /dev/sdd1 Partition /dev/sdb1 Partition /dev/sdc1 Partition /dev/sdc2 Partition /dev/sda1 Partition /dev/sda2 Partition /dev/sda3 Partition cdrom: /dev/sr0 TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-224GB usb controller: Gigabyte GA-880GMA-USB3 VIA VL805 USB 3.0 Host Controller Gigabyte GA-880GMA-USB3 Gigabyte GA-880GMA-USB3 Gigabyte GA-880GMA-USB3 Gigabyte GA-880GMA-USB3 Gigabyte GA-880GMA-USB3 Gigabyte GA-880GMA-USB3 bios: BIOS bridge: AMD Family 15h Processor Function 3 AMD Family 15h Processor Function 1 ATI RD890/RD9x0/RX980 PCI to PCI bridge (PCI Express GPP Port 0) ATI SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 LPC host controller ATI RD9x0/RX980 Host Bridge AMD Family 15h Processor Function 4 AMD Family 15h Processor Function 2 AMD Family 15h Processor Function 0 ATI SBx00 PCI to PCI Bridge ATI RD890/RD9x0/RX980 PCI to PCI bridge (PCI Express GPP Port 4) ATI RD890/RD9x0/RX980 PCI to PCI bridge (PCI Express GFX port 0) AMD Family 15h Processor Function 5 hub: Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub NEC HighSpeed Hub Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub NEC HighSpeed Hub Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub memory: Main Memory unknown: FPU DMA controller PIC Keyboard controller ATI RD890S/RD990 I/O Memory Management Unit (IOMMU) ATI SBx00 SMBus Controller Serial controller Dell Universal Receiver Logitech Webcam C270 /dev/input/event3 China Resource Semico USB Keyboard

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Synaptics Touchpad - Not Optimally Configured with xinput, xf86-input-synaptics needed
by David C. Rankin 24 Jun '22

24 Jun '22

All, After the 15.4 update, my touchpad was slow and I couldn't program a 0.5 second disabling of the touchpad when a key was pressed resulting in problems typing and my palm contacting the touchpad. I have always used syndaemon to disable the touchpad while typing, but it was nowhere to be found. synclient also provides a number of features not available with xinput. Both syndaemon and synclient are in xf86-input-synaptics. Installed, and copied the 70-synaptics.conf to /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ and restarted X and presto, my touchpad is zinging away again and syndaemon disables the touchpad while typing (but not for control or control+key combos). If your touchpad is a synaptics device, installing xf86-input-synaptics provides a great deal more in configuration. You can check your touchpad with `xinput --list`, e.g. $ xinput --list ⎡ Virtual core pointer id=2 [master pointer (3)] ⎜ ↳ Virtual core XTEST pointer id=4 [slave pointer (2)] ⎜ ↳ Microsoft Microsoft 3-Button Mouse with IntelliEye(TM) id=9 [slave pointer (2)] ⎜ ↳ PS/2 Generic Mouse id=12 [slave pointer (2)] ⎜ ↳ SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad id=13 [slave pointer (2)] ⎣ Virtual core keyboard id=3 [master keyboard (2)] ↳ Virtual core XTEST keyboard id=5 [slave keyboard (3)] ↳ Power Button id=6 [slave keyboard (3)] ↳ Video Bus id=7 [slave keyboard (3)] ↳ Sleep Button id=8 [slave keyboard (3)] ↳ HP HD Webcam [Fixed]: HP HD Web id=10 [slave keyboard (3)] ↳ AT Translated Set 2 keyboard id=11 [slave keyboard (3)] ↳ HP WMI hotkeys id=14 [slave keyboard (3)] My synaptics touchpad has id=13. synclient -l will provide a detailed list of capabilities and options (and to a lesser extent 'xinput --list-props 13' will provide the options reachable through xinput) -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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pan parameters windows
by jdd＠dodin.org 22 Jun '22

22 Jun '22

Hello, I try to use pan to read newsgroups. works well, but... when I ask to change a parameter, pan opens a windows that uses all the width of the screen, that is three monitors (4k, hd, full hd). Not very convenient worth a bugzilla? thanks jdd -- http://dodin.org http://valeriedodin.com

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Fwd: Leap 15.4 retro feedback is due to tomorrow night
by Carlos E. R. 22 Jun '22

22 Jun '22

This might be of interest. Maybe you are in time. -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: Leap 15.4 retro feedback is due to tomorrow night Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2022 08:14:57 +0000 From: Lubos Kocman <lubos.kocman(a)suse.com> To: factory(a)lists.opensuse.org <factory(a)lists.opensuse.org>, project(a)lists.opensuse.org <project(a)lists.opensuse.org> CC: marketing(a)lists.opensuse.org <marketing(a)lists.opensuse.org>, devel(a)suse.de <devel(a)suse.de> Hello openSUSE! The Leap 15.4 retrospective survey is still open until 22.06.2022 at 23:59 UTC. You can access the survey at survey.opensuse.org. If you downloaded Leap 15.4, please make sure to give us feedback. It will not take more than 2 minutes as the survey has only two questions. We have not received even half of the responses that we have received for 15.3. The openSUSE release team would highly appreciate any sharing or advertisement. Thank you Lubos

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I can't see mails I send to this list?? Only replies. I never know if the mails I send make it.
by David C. Rankin 21 Jun '22

21 Jun '22

All, Since my crappy ISP started blocking mail from opensuse to my suddenlinkmail.com account I have had to switch my account to gmail. The problem is I never see the mails I send, not my original post or my replies to the list. Anybody else using gmail know how to fix this? I also can't use the hyperkitty mail interface because my account still has the suddenlinkmail.com address as my e-mail and when I attempt login, it "sends a verification e-mail..." to my suddenlink address which of course bounces and I never get it. Suggestions? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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Vagrant + libvirt: question about removing boxes
by Nicolas Kovacs 21 Jun '22

21 Jun '22

Hi, I'm running the Vagrant/libvirt combination on an OpenSUSE Leap 15.4 box. It's running nicely and performs way better than the Vagrant/VirtualBox setup I've used before. My user (microlinux) is a member of the 'libvirt' system group: $ groups users libvirt So far I've added three boxes to my system: $ vagrant box list roboxes/centos7 (libvirt, 4.0.2) roboxes/oracle7 (libvirt, 4.0.2) roboxes/rhel7 (libvirt, 4.0.2) These boxes are stored in ~/vagrant.d: $ find .vagrant.d/ -name *.img .vagrant.d/boxes/roboxes-VAGRANTSLASH-centos7/4.0.2/libvirt/box.img .vagrant.d/boxes/roboxes-VAGRANTSLASH-oracle7/4.0.2/libvirt/box.img .vagrant.d/boxes/roboxes-VAGRANTSLASH-rhel7/4.0.2/libvirt/box.img $ du -sh .vagrant.d/ 2,4G .vagrant.d/ After initializing and running the boxes, they seem to be copied to /var/lib/libvirt/images: # cd /var/lib/libvirt/images/ # ls *box.img roboxes-VAGRANTSLASH-centos7_vagrant_box_image_4.0.2_box.img roboxes-VAGRANTSLASH-oracle7_vagrant_box_image_4.0.2_box.img roboxes-VAGRANTSLASH-rhel7_vagrant_box_image_4.0.2_box.img Let's say I want to remove these boxes, here's what I would do: $ vagrant box remove roboxes/rhel7 $ vagrant box remove roboxes/oracle7 $ vagrant box remove roboxes/centos7 The boxes are effectively wiped from ~/vagrant.d: $ du -sh .vagrant.d/ 56K .vagrant.d/ $ find .vagrant.d/ -name *.img But their copies still remain in /var/lib/libvirt/images: # cd /var/lib/libvirt/images # ls *box.img roboxes-VAGRANTSLASH-centos7_vagrant_box_image_4.0.2_box.img roboxes-VAGRANTSLASH-oracle7_vagrant_box_image_4.0.2_box.img roboxes-VAGRANTSLASH-rhel7_vagrant_box_image_4.0.2_box.img So here's my question: is there a way to get 'vagrant box remove' also wipe the images in /var/lib/libvirt/images? Thanks & cheers from the sunny South of France, Niki -- Microlinux - Solutions informatiques durables 7, place de l'église - 30730 Montpezat Site : https://www.microlinux.fr Blog : https://blog.microlinux.fr Mail : info(a)microlinux.fr Tél. : 04 66 63 10 32 Mob. : 06 51 80 12 12

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The end of pop3 on gmail?
by Gustav Degreef 21 Jun '22

21 Jun '22

Hello, I've searched on google for a solution but from what I've read, it seems like thunderbird will no longer be able to access gmail accounts using pop3. I received a notice from google, that after May 30 I will no longer be ale to retrieve mail using username/password. Oauth 2.0 apparently is only available for imap and not pop3 and 2sv with app passwords is not possible with thunderbird. Is there an alternative way to keep using thunderbird with pop3, so as to not have to leave mail on google's servers?

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15.4 minicom can't connect to ttyACM0 as user -- only root (after connection setup as root)
by David C. Rankin 20 Jun '22

20 Jun '22

All, Something has changed in 15.4 related to access serial devices over USB in 15.4 and I can't figure out what? Here is the setup. I have several microcontrollers I connect to my laptop over USB. (TI MSP432 and RM46). In 15.0 after saving the connection parameters as root, I could connect to the devices on ttyACM0 as my normal user. However in 15.4, minicom refuses to connect saying can't get a lock on ttyACM0. (if I run minicom as root, then it works just fine) This has other implications as well. I use TI Code Composer Studio as the IDE for the microcontroller code. It provides arm versions of gcc, clang and the TI compiler. It also needs to connect over ttyACM0 to update the XDS110 debug probe firmware and to flash new programs to the microcontroller's flash memory. This worked seamlessly as user in 15.0. It now cannot update the firmware or flash new programs to the microcontrollers (see error at end) I suspect this may be a group issue. In 15.0 there was the adm group GID 485, that I made myself a member of. (I'm not positive this is the group at issue, but...) The adm group is not present in 15.4. Is this the culprit? All other groups seem to be common between 15.0 and 15.4. If not the adm group -- what else could it be? I had no issues using ttyACM0 as my user in 15.0 and now in 15.4 it seems I lack some type of permission to use it. The error thrown by CCS is: CS_DAP_0: Error initializing emulator: (Error -260 @ 0x0) An attempt to connect to the XDS110 failed. The cause may be one or more of: no XDS110 is connected, invalid firmware update, invalid XDS110 serial number, or faulty USB cable. The firmware and serial number may be updated using the xdsdfu utility found in the .../ccs_base/common/uscif/xds110 directory of your installation. View the XDS110SupportReadMe.pdf file there for instructions. (Emulation package 9.7.0.00213) I'm connected to it in an xterm watching the output of a MPU9850 update at 100 HZ right now -- it's connected and working (this rules out a faulty USB cable as well). The firmware update is also fine. So it looks like the same permission issue with can't get a lock on ttyACM0 that minicom complains of. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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run sh executable fails
by Patrick Shanahan 19 Jun '22

19 Jun '22

I have a new Tumbleweed box with a build environment that acts peculiar to me. cd to build directory execute build.sh succeeds but, time build.sh fails ??? execute time sh build.sh succeeds on another box: cd to build directory execute time build.sh succeeds what is the difference? my aged memory is failing me here :( tks, -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc

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Tumbleweed with 5.18.1 : Problem with NVidia driver
by Peter Maffter 19 Jun '22

19 Jun '22

Using NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-390.151.run for an older GTX 570 to create the NVidia modules worked up to now with Suse Tumbleweed. Updated today to 5.18.1-1-default #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC and this stopped working. No X11, no graphical system. :-( It seems to be a NVidia issue,see here for the problems on ARCH: https://github.com/NVIDIA/open-gpu-kernel-modules/issues/256 Is there some good description for going back to nouveau driver for Suse Tumbleweed? Thanks in advance Pete

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update patch fails
by Marc Chamberlin 19 Jun '22

19 Jun '22

I have an openSuSE 15.3 x64 system which received a few updates and one of them - *patch:openSUSE-2022-124-1.noarch***has a dependencies problem that I don't know how to resolve. nothing provides 'libstdc++.so.6(GLIBCXX_3.4.29)(64bit)' needed by the to be installed libre2-9-20220401-bp153.5.12.1.x86_64 The version of libstdc++ installed on my system is 10.3.0+git1587 The actions Yast2 updater wants to take, to resolve this issue, is to delete a whole lot of important packages, or not install the patch, or to break a whole lot of packages. None of these seem like a good idea, so what is this poor user to do? Thanks as always in advance for some kind guru answering my question! Marc C. -- *"The Truth is out there" - Spooky* *_ _ . . . . . . _ _ . _ _ _ _ . . . . _ . . . . _ _ . _ _ _ . . . . _ _ . _ . . _ . _ _ _ _ . _ . _ . _ . _ . * Computers: the final frontier. These are the voyages of the user Marc. His mission: to explore strange new hardware. To seek out new software and new applications. To boldly go where no Marc has gone before! (/This email is digitally signed and the OpenPGP electronic signature is added as an attachment. If you know how, you can use my public key to prove this email indeed came from me and has not been modified in transit. My public key, which can be used for sending encrypted email to me also, can be found at - https://keys.openpgp.org/search?q=marc@marcchamberlin.com or just ask me for it and I will send it to you as an attachment. If you don't understand all this geek speak, no worries, just ignore this explanation and ignore the OpenPGP signature key attached to this email (it will look like gibberish if you open it) and/or ask me to explain it further if you like./)

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Amarok stops
by James Knott 19 Jun '22

19 Jun '22

Since installing 15.4, I've noticed Amarok frequently stops. With 15.3, it would play for hours without issue. Anyone else notice this? Looking that the title line right now, I don't see a next song listed. I do see the previous song, which it stopped after. I then had to click on play again. It's Amarok v 2.9.71

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updating a system hardwareside mbr -> gpt
by Simon Becherer 19 Jun '22

19 Jun '22

Hi, i have a new computer with ssd (nvme0n1) 1tb and 3tb hdd (hda) old system have had hda 1tb hdb 2tb both hdd's are bootable (hda tumbleweed graphic kde, hdb old tumbleweed only shell, for backup + problem sovling +..) both systems amd main processor amd graphics format of both disks is ext4 both computers are switched to old style bios (uefi switched off) systems use "hardware name" (free translation from german) in fstab (hda1... nvme0n1p1 ...) copied everything to the new system (using dd) now of course the new hda1 is 2tb and have a 1tb unused. because i did not like to have a second partition on it, i have to change to gpt. hdd boot ok ssd boot after changing initramfs, fstab grub commandline and maybe some other small things. now to my question (for ssd (to be more modern) and hdd (because of the 3tb)): 1) what would be the best way to change mbr to gpt -> maybe using gdisk? https://superuser.com/questions/1250895/converting-between-gpt-and-mbr-hard… https://www.rodsbooks.com/gdisk/mbr2gpt.html -> i do not understand clearly, will it then still be bootable / and 100% correct gpt or is this only a "it will work (with or even unusable for me without booting)" solution? 2) i found in /etc/default/grub_installdevice one line: generic_mbr i guess that this info has to be changed, what must be insert here instead of "generic_mbr" regards, simoN -- www.becherer.de

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Symbiote - Impossible-to-Detect Linux Threat
by David C. Rankin 19 Jun '22

19 Jun '22

All (especially anyone running a server), There apparently is a nasty bit of Linux malware I hadn't been privy to until tonight. The report is: https://www.intezer.com/blog/research/new-linux-threat-symbiote/ The design is incredibly sophisticated, to the point of hooking execve for ldd and scrubbing it's own name from the list of shared objects returned. The sticky-wicket is it is hard to discover even if you are looking for it. Worth passing along to put a few more openSUSE eyes smarter than mine on it. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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my upgrade goof
by bent fender 18 Jun '22

18 Jun '22

Just upped 15.3 to 15.4 but I think I made a mistake. Looking at the auto selected packages I thought 'let's upgrade almost everything' and ended up with a 1-hour run. Then to make things worse (and maybe because og my goof) the subsequent on-line update with yast took anothe hour. Later today I'm going to upgrade the Leap partition on my g73 laptop but think I should only upgrade the auto-selected packages. Would this upgrade everything that needs upgrading to become 15.4?

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Tumbleweed: Can’t login, loops me back to login screen
by Martin /Nightowl/ Byttebier 17 Jun '22

17 Jun '22

Hello, After an update yesterday I found that I’m stuck at the login screen. After typing my password the screen goes black for a few seconds then I’m back at the login again. The same applies for root. I'm using latest Tumbleweed (20220613) with X11. Wayland doesn't help either. I can login using IceWM though. Any idea how I can solve this? Martin -- UTSI: http://users.telenet.be/tos4ever/utsi.htm Atari FTP-site: ftp://kurobox.serveftp.net:3021 Running openSUSE Leap 15.4 / KDE 5.24.4

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Microsucky Idiot-Bar VS Details-View
by bent fender 17 Jun '22

17 Jun '22

I notice that the very useful details view in Suse install, ugrade and yast update are GONE! Why? I find the details view indispensable. The button to select it has been edited out. -- "One has eaten the full meaning of life when willing to plant a tree under which one knows full well that one will never sit." Source unknown, many candidates.

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15.4 - chgrp of files I own "Operation not permitted"?? chmod setgid must be root after chgrp?? Apparmor??
by David C. Rankin 16 Jun '22

16 Jun '22

All, I am totally bewildered at the behavior of setting basic file permissions and ownership on 15.4. I cannot change the group on files I own. (WTF?). I cannot set or unset setgid on directories on directories I own with octets (I can with the g+s syntax) Is this apparmor or some other security setting? It wasn't this way with 15.0. Take for example a directory I own and have full write capability to: 00:02 wizard:~/tmp> l -d ./ drwxr-xr-x 10 david david 4096 Jun 15 23:01 ./ Now let's create a new directory named "foo": $ md foo $ l -d ./foo/ drwxr-xr-x 2 david david 4096 Jun 16 00:03 ./foo/ So far so good. Let's change the group to "skyline" of which I'm the sole member, e.g. $ grep skyline /etc/group skyline:x:1000:david $ chown david:skyline foo chown: changing ownership of 'foo': Operation not permitted Huh?? What gives? Why can't I change directory ownership of "foo" to "skyline". That's really bad. Why would I have to be root to set group ownership on a directory I own? But I do: $ sudo chown david:skyline foo $ l -d ./foo drwxr-xr-x 2 david skyline 4096 Jun 16 00:03 ./foo Alright, can I at least set it setgid now so that the files created within it will have the proper permissions: $ chmod 2755 foo $ l -d ./foo drwxr-xr-x 2 david skyline 4096 Jun 16 00:03 ./foo What? Why didn't that work? Can I at least use 'g+s'? $ chmod g+s foo $ l -d ./foo drwxr-xr-x 2 david skyline 4096 Jun 16 00:03 ./foo What? Do I have to be root to do that? What gives? $ sudo chmod 2755 foo $ l -d ./foo drwxr-sr-x 2 david skyline 4096 Jun 16 00:03 ./foo Damnit! This is going to get old quick. I've never had to be root to set group ownership before. There are no ACL's set, so that's not it either. Is there an apparmor rule or something that is doing this? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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15.4 FreeCAD Segfaults Opening Example (libc.so.6)
by David C. Rankin 15 Jun '22

15 Jun '22

All, Anyone using FreeCAD on 15.4. After opening FreeCAD (starts fine), clicking on the first example file causes SegFault: $ FreeCAD FreeCAD 0.19, Libs: 0.19RUnknown © Juergen Riegel, Werner Mayer, Yorik van Havre and others 2001-2021 FreeCAD is free and open-source software licensed under the terms of LGPL2+ license. FreeCAD wouldn't be possible without FreeCAD community. ##### #### ### #### # # # # # # # ## #### #### # # # # # #### # # # # # # # ##### # # # # #### #### # # # # # # # # # # # # # # ## ## ## # # #### #### ### # # #### ## ## ## connect failed: No such file or directory Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. #0 /lib64/libc.so.6(+0x4ad70) [0x7fef891bbd70] If someone can confirm, I'll write the bug report. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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If it's plugged-in it should sound
by bent fender 15 Jun '22

15 Jun '22

Over 30 years of computing and it's in Leap-15.3 that for a first time I see something done the right way: with a guitar fx-board output plugged into my soundcard's 1/4" Line-In jack I can actually HEAR it *even before logging-in* (pulse is used). Interestingly enough this feature is not there in bleeding-edge Tumbleweed :-))) QUESTION: Is it detactable if some instrument is actually plugged into the sound card? If it is then this is the way to go, I mean if I plug something in it's because I want to hear it and it should be default, no? Would be nice to see this in TW as well all the same, even if it's an unintended bug! -- Artificial Stupidity will never be competitive.

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tcsh does not work
by Wolfgang Mueller 15 Jun '22

15 Jun '22

Today at 13:00 my other computer suddenly became dark in KDE under Leap 15.4, recently installed. Then I opened a console and found out that tcsh does not work any more. I prepared three very simple scripts for testing purposes: -rwxr-xr-x 1 wolfgang 28 Jun 14 15:41 script.tcsh -rwxr-xr-x 1 wolfgang 27 Jun 14 15:57 script.sh -rwxr-xr-x 1 wolfgang 29 Jun 14 15:45 script.bash script.tcsh, consists of these 2 lines: #!/bin/csh echo 'Hi, world' script.sh, consists of these 2 lines: #!/bin/sh echo 'Hi, world and script.bash, consists of these 2 lines: #!/bin/bash echo 'Hi, world' Invoking them directly fails, yielding the error messages: script.tcsh: Command not found. script.sh: Command not found. script.bash: Command not found. When I invoke one of them specifying "tcsh", i.e. tcsh-prompt> tcsh script.tcsh the script hangs and has to be dropped with CTRL C. The same for tcsh-prompt> sh script.sh and tcsh-prompt> bash script.bash. The only way to make the scripts work is invoking them in a bash session. Now bash-prompt> tcsh script.tcsh hangs again, but bash-prompt> sh script.sh and bash-prompt> bash script.bash work correctly, producing the output Hi, world But even in a bash session, it is not possible to invoke the scripts directly. Anyway, I urgently need tcsh, having a lot of scripts working under tcsh or csh only. Thanks in advance for your help, Wolfgang

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Ultimaker Cura 3D Printing Software Crashes on Start-up. Missing python-sentry-sdk
by David C. Rankin 15 Jun '22

15 Jun '22

All, Cura for 3D Printing is also broken: $ cura Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/cura", line 27, in <module> from cura.CrashHandler import CrashHandler File "/usr/lib/python3.6/site-packages/cura/CrashHandler.py", line 15, in <module> import sentry_sdk ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'sentry_sdk' That's easily fixable: # zypper in python3-sentry-sdk Bug opened: https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1200546 -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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Leap 15.4 Darktable doesn't start
by Peter McD 15 Jun '22

15 Jun '22

Hi, Updated from Leap 15.3 to Leap 15.4 today. No problems so far, except(!) Darktable doesn't work anymore. I have been using Darktable 3.8 with Leap 15.3. After the upgrade there was Darktable 3.6, which is standard in leap 15.4. Neither Darktable icon nor console as user could start the program. console printed: peter@lux-2:~> darktable darktable: error while loading shared libraries: libdarktable.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory Something is missing. Peter

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SAMBA open is very slow
by Roger Oberholtzer 15 Jun '22

15 Jun '22

I have a 15.3 system that uses SAMBA to share file systems between a couple systems. I have used that in 15.1 and it has worked very well. On 15.3 clients, I see that file open calls can be extremely slow, like taking a minute to complete. Later access is ok. It is the open that takes so long. Or so it appears. I have not changed the share or mount options from 15.1 when it was working okay. The systems were upgraded recently via zypper dup, so I expect that my original settings are the same. I see that it is the open call via strace on the programs that are accessing the files. They are doing a simple open() call. Nothing specific to SAMBA. Just a simple open. I'm not sure where to look. Google didn't provide much help. Maybe my search keys were bad. Anyone see this behavior on openSUSE? I'm running the default (I hope): 4.13.4+git -- Roger Oberholtzer

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Re: Issues with 15.4 and Firefox video - is Packman broken?
by Carlos E. R. 14 Jun '22

14 Jun '22

On 2022-06-14 17:37, Larry Len Rainey wrote: > I reposted this on the packman mailing list after I was told that is > should be in that instead of factory. > > The issue is that both a fresh install and the upgrade did not change to > Packman version as the libavcodec58 is older than the ones in the > OpenSUSE repos. > > The only thing that was needed to install them was this: (repo 1 is > Packman). > > zypper in -f -r 1 --oldpackage libavcodec58_134 > Well, that means that the command you run initially was wrong, as I suspected. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from Elesar, using openSUSE Leap 15.3)

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openSUSE Leap 15.4: The best desktop on the RPM side of the Linux world
by David C. Rankin 14 Jun '22

14 Jun '22

Good press on El Reg, https://www.theregister.com/2022/06/10/review_opensuse_leap_154/?utm_source… Very good article, even the disclosure :) -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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15.4 - When I switch drives, what is rewriting the grub menu? os-prober? How to turn it off? (remove it?)
by David C. Rankin 14 Jun '22

14 Jun '22

All, One annoying quirk of 15.4 is it rewrites the grub boot menu when I change drives. I don't want it to do that. I just stuck the windows drive in, and it wiped out the 15.0 chainload and boot. How do I stop this from happening? Remove os-prober (if that is what is doing it?) Or does 15.4 use something else to rewrite the grub menu when disks change? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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Network Manager
by Wolfgang Mueller 13 Jun '22

13 Jun '22

I tried to install the Network Manager in the following way: Yast > System > Network Settings > Global Options > Network Setup Method > ( Wicked Service | Network Manager | Network Services Disabled ) After selecting "Network Manager" and clicking "ok", the following warning message appeared in a small pop-up window: Applet needed NetworkManager is controlled by desktop applet (KDE plasma widget and nm-applet for GNOME). Be sure it's running and if not, start it manually. How and where can I get the KDE plasma widget mentioned in the previous message and how do I install and start it? How do I program the Network Manager? Thanks in advance for your help? Wolfgang

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Change install method
by James Knott 13 Jun '22

13 Jun '22

For years, I have been copying the full ISO to a USB stick for installation. I just realized I should now be using the NET install image, because my Internet speed is faster than USB 2! Until a couple of years ago, my download bandwidth was 75 Mb or less. It's now officially 500 Mb, but actually around 900 Mb. USB 2 tops out 480, assuming appropriate hardware.

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Zypper DL hang
by bent fender 12 Jun '22

12 Jun '22

It often happens that some package download hangs at some % which forces the user into retry/abort/ignore. Sometimes the same file(s) will hang for a day or two, or weeks. Why do they make the list at all if they don't download proper? Retry seldom fixes the problem, aborting was not the purpose behind launching zypper, and ignore just skips the download. Then comes the misleading message "Installation has completed with error" which SHOULD be "Installation aborted due to incomplete download". Maybe the options should include "abort, skip, redo-depends and keep truckin'"? Right now it's these 2: @ 64%: libx264-161-32bit-0.161+git20200912.d198931a-2.34.x86_64.rpm @ 65%: transcode-1.1.7-11.46.x86_64.rpm

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External hard drive failing?
by Jeffrey Taylor 12 Jun '22

12 Jun '22

I have a Verbatim external USB 3.0 hard drive. For the second time in a month, my laptop running Leap 15.3, fails to recognize when it's plugged in. The light on the drive lights up when it's plugged in, sothe drive recognizes the laptop. The laptop is a Lenovo T520. The ports are USB 2.0. Rebooting the laptop does not help. Shutting the laptop for an hour does help. Any of this sound familiar? Is USB port failing? Probably not, same thing happens regardless of which port the hard drive is plugged into. Hard drive failing or something in the kernel messing up? TIA, Jeffrey

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[Leap 15] Anyone using ProtonVPN with openSUSE?
by Bob Williams 12 Jun '22

12 Jun '22

Has anyone successfully setup ProtonVPN with openSUSE? If so, can they point me to an idiot's guide, please? Proton supply a desktop app for Fedora and other RPM based distributions, but not for openSUSE. My system is a fully up-to-date Leap 15.4. openvpn is installed. I've tried installing the CLI NetworkManager scripts (eg. ch-uk-01.protonvpn.com.udp) with the following settings Gateway: 185.159.157.12 Connection type: Password CA Certificate: ~/.local/share/networkmanagement/certificates/ch-uk-01.protonvpn.com.udp/ca.crt Username: my proton username copied from my Proton account settings Password: my proton password copied from my Proton account settings IPv4 Method: Automatic IPv6 Method: Automatic However, nothing happens when I click on Connect in NetworkManager. Thank you Bob -- Bob Williams

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Fwd: After installing Leap 15.4, zypper and YaST can't see repositories.
by Darryl Gregorash 11 Jun '22

11 Jun '22

Felix Miata posted this message to the Support list yesterday. So can we please cease all the talk about broken this or that, or even (gasp) some possible conspiracy at o.o to baffle mere mortals. The mirrors are largely broken, so be patient until they are fixed. Go directly to the best mirror for your location (you can get the list on the get.o.o page) and download matching ISO and checksum files. Perhaps someone from the oS admin team would be so kind as to post here and in Support when the mirror problems have been fixed? -------- Forwarded Message -------- J Leslie Turriff composed on 2022-06-10 19:47 (UTC-0500): ... Based on what I've seen on IRC opensuse-admin today, going back many hours, they have been trying to sort out complicated mirror and redirection problems. -- Evolution as taught in public schools is, like religion, based on faith, not based on science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata

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Leap 15.4 offline image fails check
by James Knott 11 Jun '22

11 Jun '22

After downloading the ISO and sha256sum files, I checked the integrity, but it failed. > sha256sum -c openSUSE-Leap-15.4-DVD-x86_64-Media.iso.sha256 sha256sum: openSUSE-Leap-15.4-DVD-x86_64-Media.iso: No such file or directory openSUSE-Leap-15.4-DVD-x86_64-Media.iso: FAILED open or read sha256sum: WARNING: 1 listed file could not be read I then copied the ISO to a USB stick, using SUSE Studio Imagewriter and booted the image to do media check, but it failed.

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Re: SMS vs whatever
by Per Jessen 11 Jun '22

11 Jun '22

jdd(a)dodin.org wrote: > Le 28/05/2022 à 17:54, Patrick Shanahan a écrit : > >> nothing is free (of charge) but hidden within (THE plan). but yes, >> sms does not incur *additional* charges on most accounts now, but did >> in the past. >> > > still do :-( Not for about ten years. (in my case). > I can phone for free to my LA living daugther, but If I send her a > SMS, I'm charged :-(, whats'app, messenger are free :-( Okay, so intercontinental SMS'es have a price :-) I can also come up with exceptions to prove the rule, equally far fetched. Specifically wrt SMS, in my business we have been using it for 15+ years for sending critical system alerts. Apart from having to change the setup, if I can post secure messages to Telegram/Discord/Matrix from the command line (from a script), I might have a look. (provided those services are as reliable as the telcos). -- Per Jessen, Zürich (18.9°C) Member, openSUSE Heroes

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Why does "zypper up" show updates that will NOT be installed, but "zypper dup" omits them?
by David C. Rankin 11 Jun '22

11 Jun '22

All, After 15.4 was official, I went with a zypper up for updates today and was presented with: The following 31 package updates will NOT be installed: desktop-data-openSUSE icewm icewm-default icewm-lang icewm-theme-branding keepassxc keepassxc-lang libKF5Cddb5 libKF5Kipi32_0_0 libKF5MediaWiki5 libavcodec57 libavformat57 libavutil55 libkcddb libkcddb-lang libpostproc54 libpython2_7-1_0 libswresample2 libvlc5 libvlccore9 patterns-devel-python-devel_python3 pdftk python-rpm-generators python-rpm-macros python3-dbus-python vlc vlc-codec-gstreamer vlc-lang vlc-noX vlc-qt vlc-vdpau (there were 16 packages to update) Trying, I gave another "zypper dup" and it omitted the "updates will NOT be installed:" list, but provided the same 16 packages to update. Why the "updates will NOT be installed:" list with "zypper up" and not with "zypper dup"? Will the "updates will NOT be installed:" just get bigger and bigger with time? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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Connection refused
by Wolfgang Mueller 11 Jun '22

11 Jun '22

Yesterday I upgraded one of my computers to Leap 15.4. Everything works fine except for problems with the network. When I try to connect to it from outside by ssh, it answers: ssh: connect to host az port 22: Connection refused At first I thought it was a firewall problem. So, I stopped firewalld and changed the start mode to "manual" in yast. But that did not help. How can I allow connections from outside again? Thank you in advance, Wolfgang

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localhost inaccessible to browsers
by Wolfgang Mueller 11 Jun '22

11 Jun '22

Having installed Leap 15.4 with KDE on one of my computers, I have a strange problem with browsing, being localhost inaccessible to Firefox (version 101.0) as well as to Chromium and Google Chrome (both version 102.0.5005.xxx). This is very boring for developing a web page. Replacing localhost by "az", the computer's name, or "192.168.2.17", its internal IP address, does not help; these specifications are likewise rejected. But "ping localhost", "ping az" and "ping 192.168.2.17" work fine. There is no problem with accessing any other internal or external address. Any ideas? Thanks in advance, Wolfgang

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Re: Your confirmation is needed to leave the users@lists.opensuse.org mailing list.
by Robert Williams 11 Jun '22

11 Jun '22

On Sat, 11 Jun 2022 11:22:57 +0000 users-confirm+d24278b0eb97bf6bff7f2b187e4c6a0d6a0a19a4(a)lists.opensuse.org wrote: > Email Address Unsubscription Confirmation > > Hello, this is the GNU Mailman server at lists.opensuse.org. > > We have received an unsubscription request for the email address > > bob.williams(a)karmasailing.uk > > Before GNU Mailman can unsubscribe you, you must first confirm your > request. You can do this by simply replying to this message. > > Or you should include the following line -- and only the following > line -- in a message to users-request(a)lists.opensuse.org: > > confirm d24278b0eb97bf6bff7f2b187e4c6a0d6a0a19a4 > > Note that simply sending a `reply' to this message should work from > most mail readers. > > If you do not wish to unsubscribe this email address, simply > disregard this message. If you think you are being maliciously > unsubscribed from the list, or have any other questions, you may > contact > > users-owner(a)lists.opensuse.org -- Robert Williams bob.williams(a)karmasailing.uk +44 (0)1903 866960

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Note: Update of Thunderbird past 91esr will make irreversible changes to profile (backup before update)
by David C. Rankin 11 Jun '22

11 Jun '22

All, As part of https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1772023 I tested with Thunderbird 102 Beta. There are a number of changes between 91 and 102 (for the good, new address book format -- no more Mork!, etc.) that will make irreversible changes to your thunderbird profile. If you are considering "checking out" a new version of tbird, make a backup of your current profile before trying the new version (thunderbird wisely creates a new profile, but for testing CPU use, I needed to use the same account setup). The downside of the new profile creation is if you have a number of mail and calendar accounts to integrate, creating a new profile from scratch will be tedious and the sync of all mail headers, indexing, etc.. can be extensive if you have a large mail-store. So after backup, you can point thunderbird to your existing profile with the '-profile /path/to/your/profile' option and it will use and convert your existing profile to the new format. (but without a back, you will be unable to use the old version of thunderbird with that profile) The good new is High CPU use is gone in 102 beta... -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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Firefox 101 faster?
by James Knott 10 Jun '22

10 Jun '22

After installing Leap 15.4, I updated Firefox to v101. It appears to be a lot faster and more responsive than the v95 I had been running with 15.3. BTW, why is v91 still provided with 15.4? Shouldn't something more current be offered?

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Trying to install Leap 15.4
by Siard 10 Jun '22

10 Jun '22

Hi, I am trying to install Leap 15.4. But during the installation of packages, I get messages like these: YaST2 Installation of package ca-certificates failed. Details: Subprocess failed. Error: RPM failed: Command exited with status 1. History: - error: failed to exec scriptlet interpreter /bin/sh: Permission denied error: %prein(ca-certificates-2+git20210309.21162a6-2.1.noarch) scriptlet failed, exit status 127 error: ca-certificates-2+git20210309.21162a6-2.1.noarch: install failed YaST2 Installation of package python3-six failed. Details: Subprocess failed. Error: RPM failed: Command exited with status 1. History: - error: failed to exec scriptlet interpreter /bin/sh: Permission denied error: %prein(python3-six-1.14.0-12.1.noarch) scriptlet failed, exit status 127 error: python3-six-1.14.0-12.1.noarch: install failed I click 'Ignore' every time, and then this message appears: YaST2 Warning Ignoring a package failure may result in a broken system. The system should be later verified by running the Software Management module. And the list of uninstallable packages goes on and on: python3-pip wireless-tools systemd-presets-common-SUSE sg3_utils netcfg login_defs klogd issue-generator cyrus-sasl systemd-presets-branding-openSUSE iputils ebtables device-mapper shadow kbd alsa-utils lockdev etc. I had the same problem when trying to install 15.3. I did manage to install TW, however. Does anybody have any idea what could be the problem here?

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Leap-15.4 vanilla kernel "make install" broken
by Mark Hounschell 10 Jun '22

10 Jun '22

I did an upgrade today using a DVD. I built and run vanilla kernels. All was going well until I did a "make install". What I got was this: harley:/usr/src/linux-5.15.46# make install arch/x86/Makefile:142: CONFIG_X86_X32 enabled but no binutils support sh ./arch/x86/boot/install.sh 5.15.46 \ arch/x86/boot/bzImage System.map "/boot" Cannot find LILO. harley:/usr/src/linux-5.15.46# On 15.3 the kernel install scripts call /sbin/installkernel from the dracut package. That file seems to be missing from 15.4. Is there a reason why? Thanks Mark

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Re: Why all the fear?
by Lukáš Krejza 10 Jun '22

10 Jun '22

Dne čtvrtek 2. června 2022 21:13:37 CEST, iob napsal(a): <snip> > pretty much same here. snapper is enabled for example. Never had a > serious problem and never used those fancy stuff. it was not always > perfect and with some configuration here and there, i consider TW > stable for a rolling distro. > > But in the other side, i think it is very easy to mess up or break the > system. Usually with some repo that you found online or someone > recommended etc. > > IMO one of the reasons for the fear comes from the lack of good/working > documentation and tutorial. > Yeah, that is why i mentioned documentation as one of the three most important parts that should be mentioned on the openSUSE web page here: [1]. But i guess nobody cares or noticed that, since the thread got massively off-topic. [1]: https://lists.opensuse.org/archives/list/project@lists.opensuse.org/ message/V76ABRHJ6AYC5S4UW5CE4TLQYUNZZRUW/ Regards, Gryffus

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How can I change my mail address in bugzilla.
by Peter McD 10 Jun '22

10 Jun '22

Hi, I reported a bug to bugzilla and noticed that my mail address is no longer valid. I could log in, but any mail will not reach me. https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=darktable&list_id=136… The page doesn't have or hides very successfully the location where I could change my email address. "Preferences" point to "Account Information" but wants too much information. Alternatively I could cancel my account and open a new one. But where? Peter

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Final zypper dup done for 15.4 - Working Fantastic - It's a keeper.
by David C. Rankin 09 Jun '22

09 Jun '22

All, Final zypper dup done, laptop, with proprietary nvidia drivers, working wonderfully. Hats off to the openSUSE devs. Fluxbox and KDE3 tweaked and configured to perfection. Wonderful dark themes for both, all 10,000 (guess) apps that are normally installed, plus gcc11 working fine. Fresh install to ext4, and I really have no complaints to report (we did have to pull the 15.3 desktop-data-openSUSE-15.0.20171024-lp153.1.53.noarch.rpm To restore menu categories that were stripped out by Gnome (okay, that's a complaint, but there is also a workaround, so nice tidy xdg menu categorization restored) Tbird CPU usage is also a complaint -- but openSUSE has nothing to due with that one, bug filed with Mozilla and confirmed it is fixed in Tbird 102 (so that's a wash too) That's small potatoes "complaints". Desktops in best shape I've ever seen (that's saying a lot considering I've use KDE since long before 3.5.10), Libreoffice, imagemagick, gimp, inkscape (it has made the gtk transition - finally), pdftk, pngquant, etc... all the "tools of creation" working fine. Mariadb and Postgresql up running no issue. Samba makes my $HOME files available on my phone, all is good. Here is to 15.4 going down in the records with 15.0, 42.3, 11.4, 11.0, 10.3, 9.0Pro, 8.0Pro, 7.0Pro (boxed sets) as being releases that are remembered fondly. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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postfix + dovecot + let's encrypt (certbot) - Seamless ssl/tls mail certificate
by David C. Rankin 09 Jun '22

09 Jun '22

All, Probably old news to most who run their own mail servers, but for years I simply used self-signed certs for mail and used Let's Encrypt for my web servers. Turns out it's trivial to use the same certs for both. The key is you need to have both an A and MX record for your mail host and then add that fqdn (Expand) your Let's Encrypt certificate to include the mail host fqdn. While most mail clients would simply allow you to add an exception for your annual change for self-signed certs, leave it to apple to make things difficult and complain. So tired of fighting with IOS, it was time to simply use a legitimate cert. (makes apple instantly happy, not reboots to clear cache or 3 forced mail checks is rapid succession to have it add a new exception) If you are interested, here are three links that tie it altogether. Note that different web-servers will have difference setups/processes for requesting your original or expended cert. (there is a manual method as well) https://serverfault.com/q/999409/332034 https://community.letsencrypt.org/t/how-to-add-mail-server-to-existing-cert… https://community.letsencrypt.org/t/dovecot-certificate/145441/9 Simple solution. The only change to dovecot.conf is to point it to the let's encrypt certs instead of self-signed. Should have taken the time to do this years ago when I did the web server. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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Leap 15.4 - task bar buttons NFG
by James Knott 08 Jun '22

08 Jun '22

Previously, when clicking on a taskbar app button, if there were multiple windows open, a list would appear. Now, it cycles through open windows, instead of listing them. How can this be fixed?

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Firefox 95
by James Knott 08 Jun '22

08 Jun '22

I had been running Firefox 95.0.1 with 15.3. Is there similar with 15.4? The installed version is 91.100 and when I run it, it complains about an older version and says to create a new profile. tnx jk

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Leap 15.4 - Konsole no icon
by James Knott 08 Jun '22

08 Jun '22

In Leap 15.4, there doesn't seem to be an icon for Konsole. I just see a blank area and it's not listed in icons under applications.

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Leap vs Tumbleweed a few questions
by Carl Spitzer {L Juno} 08 Jun '22

08 Jun '22

I know I should have done the upgrade long ago but work has been crazy. I have one laptop still 15.2 which apparently needs to upgrade to 15.3 and then to 15.4 . I also have a neighbors old Gateway which is 64 bit which could go the 15.4 route directly or Tumbleweed. What I am wondering with all this complexity should I just switch to Tumbleweed rolling release and skip all the extra work. What is your experience with either??? I know kde3 is going away unless that one guy takes control of it but I find Trinity aka kde 3.5.12 is available for both the 15.x series and Tumbleweed. I just wish Evolution could be repaired to use mbox for the filters I have created. I do not need M$ exchange comparability. CWSIV

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2 questions about Leap 15.4 release
by Darryl Gregorash 05 Jun '22

05 Jun '22

Build 243.2 dated 28 May is now available on my closest mirror. Is this the actual Gold Master, and if so, are there any issues which would suggest against an early update to 15.4? Server loads are likely to be heavy next Wednesday, and I would like to avoid that if at all possible. Second question: I note there are no .torrent files for 15.4 (in fact, all such files have been removed for all 15.x releases). Are these gone forever? It's a shame if that is so, since torrent sharing is the fastest way to distribute the ISO files, and significantly reduces the load on the mirrors once everyone starts downloading them.

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Since 15.4 is now GM - Will my next zypper dup by my LAST zypper dup?
by David C. Rankin 04 Jun '22

04 Jun '22

All, Factory announced 15.4 is no Gold Master. So will my next zypper dup be the last zypper dup for 15.4, and then zypper up after that? Or is there some other milestone I should look for to know when to switch from zypper dup to zypper up? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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Recover/open/run/whatever Visual Basic?
by Dave Howorth 04 Jun '22

04 Jun '22

I've just downloaded what I believe to be a game coded in Visual Basic. I'd like to recover the source of it, or at least be able to read it, and I'd like to be able to translate the associated data tables to something useful (it's an adventure style game called Quest), but I don't know how. It arrived as a zip file and when unzipped I see a bunch of files. 'file' says most of them are 'MS Compress archive data' and the rest appear to be obviously not of much interest: $ file * ADATA1._: MS Compress archive data ADATA2._: MS Compress archive data OLDS4.FO_: MS Compress archive data OLDS4.TT_: MS Compress archive data QUEST.EX_: MS Compress archive data SETUP1.EX_: MS Compress archive data SETUP.EXE: MS-DOS executable, NE for MS Windows 3.x SETUPKIT.DL_: MS Compress archive data SETUP.LST: ASCII text, with CRLF line terminators VBRUN300.DL_: MS Compress archive data VER.DL_: MS-DOS executable, NE for MS Windows 3.x (driver) My google-foo seems to be a bit weak today :( Can anybody suggest a program that can read those files and turn them into something more manageable?

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[oS-EN] Resizing a window in XFCE
by Carlos E. R. 03 Jun '22

03 Jun '22

Hi, On some of my computers I have a problem: the thresold for picking an edge of the window to resize it (using XFCE) is so narrow that I have to keep moving the mouse for 20 seconds till I manage to get hold of it. First the horizontal, then the vertical. Forget about grabbing the corner. Where can I adjust it? Not in mouse settings. :-? -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from Elesar, using openSUSE Leap 15.3)

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Thunderbird (and now Firefox) intermittently causing high CPU load
by gumb 02 Jun '22

02 Jun '22

I'm on Leap 15.3. Held off the update from Thunderbird 78esr to 91esr for quite a long time because I'd read of one or two issues and knew it might be best to wait a while. Now, let me state that I've been using Thunderbird since pre-1.0 days about twenty years ago. It's always been rock solid stable, sometimes a bit old and clunky but absolutely reliable, more so than just about any other software I use. I also understand that open source developers don't get enthused by criticism and they give their free time and energy and we should all do our best to show appreciation and be constructive in our conversations and hug trees. With that said, all current Thunderbird developers must die! Okay, I'll back off a bit. After twenty years of rock solid stability I upgraded to 91esr and have run into a catalogue of irritations, some of which I should have actually catalogued because I've now forgotten for a moment what they are, but I'm sure they'll come back to haunt me some more. In the v91 release notes I see lots of happy-clapping for spangly new features that are of no relevance to me. I just want the continued stability. Somebody already remarked on here some time ago that scrolling in the TB message preview pane is now horked. I either have to click or move the mouse about erratically in the pane to get it to scroll. Sometimes it scrolls immediately, other times not, and seems worse when there's images in the mail but no consistency or logic to it. Tried turning on hardware acceleration and for an hour or so thought that had cured it, only for the problem to return many times since. One or two other smaller annoyances I'll just have to put up with for the time being, but I'd like to know if anybody else has witnessed high CPU usage, specifically in Thunderbird 91esr on Leap 15.3? I wondered if it was continually reindexing my twenty years' archive of folders, and at first it seemed to do it fairly routinely once a day in early evening. But then it became more frequent, and now it spins up several times a day. This laptop has been ultra quiet for three years. 8 cores, 32gb of RAM, all of which I barely use. Bought it secondhand-like-new and it's way overspec'd for the mostly mundane tasks I require of it. Only very rarely does a CPU intensive task spin up the fan and make any noise noticeable, briefly. But now Thunderbird is doing this consistently. At this rate, it's going to wipe two years off the lifetime of this machine. I do NOT have the global search and indexer feature enabled. I tried deselecting and reselecting it as OFF just to make sure. If I look in Plasma's System Activity when the high load occurs, I see Thunderbird showing typically between 6 and 22% CPU load whilst most other processes are rarely pushing more than 1 or 2%. There may be subprocesses amongst the bazillion other kworker and whatever garbage things further down the list, but I can't pick out anything for sure. Nothing that nudges more than a percent or two. It's also not the Compact Folders process, because I still only do that manually after a prompt. It just prompted me for the first time in a long while (I have it set to only act with over ~200mb wasted space), and after that ran for a few seconds, my system just went into some kind of hyperdrive like never before witnessed, whilst Baloo reindexed for a few minutes and half the neighbourhood lost power to the centrale nucléaire whilst Mr Linux plays with his email client. And now Firefox has decided to join in the fun and games. Again, the standard latest ESR version for 15.3. Most particularly when I start playing anything in YouTube, but not uniquely that. System Activity usually shows a process 'RDD' consuming one core, and my fan starts going into warp speed again. Never happened before this last week or two. In both Thunderbird and Firefox I've turned off all studies, data collection, error reporting and whatnot to eliminate that. It could be that others have these symptoms but don't notice on their desktop fanless or soundproofed machines. What could be the cause? No I haven't yet filed any bug reports. I'm unsure if it could be openSUSE-specific, perhaps some other dependency like a graphics update that has nothing to do with Mozilla. Too many vague things to know where to even start. And no I haven't tried creating a blank profile because I can be almost certain nothing will go goofy in such an empty profile, and I don't want the inconvenience of setting up and receiving pop mail in a fresh instance and then having to merge it all back into my main mail at a later date. gumb

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XFCE user switcher
by Carlos E. R. 02 Jun '22

02 Jun '22

Hi, On XFCE, using xfce4-screensaver, when it locks, I do not see a button to switch to another user. Is there some way to make it appear? Leap 15.3 -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from Elesar, using openSUSE Leap 15.3)

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Zoom on Tumbleweed
by Peter Suetterlin 02 Jun '22

02 Jun '22

Hi list, is anyone else having issues with the latest zoom (5.10.0-2450) on Tumbleweed? It keeps crashing on me, directly at start, even the crash report form doesn't stay on screen, but vanishes before I can type in anything.

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Re: Konversation
by Per Jessen 02 Jun '22

02 Jun '22

Carlos E. R. wrote: > On 2022-05-28 11:44, Per Jessen wrote: >> Carlos E. R. wrote: >> >>> On 2022-05-28 10:22, Stefan Seyfried wrote: >>>> On 27.05.22 13:01, Lukáš Krejza wrote: >>>> >>>>> Well, when you start Konversation, >>>> >>>> what is this "Konversation" thing? >>> >>> An IRC client that comes preconfigured on Leap, out of the box. >>> >>>> >>>> How can I scroll back in IRC to see what happened the last days? >>>> That's pretty crucial for a time-shifted (non realtime) >>>> communication channel. >>> >>> You can't. >> >> If Konversation remains open, you can scroll back. I have just >> scrolled back to 17 May. > > I can't. I see "now", and the text I got when I tested last night. This is going off-topic on project.lists, switching over to the general list. How long has your Konversation been open for? Mine has been open at least since 17 May. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (20.2°C) Member, openSUSE Heroes

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Why all the fear?
by Lukáš Krejza 01 Jun '22

01 Jun '22

Hey Geekos, First of all, sorry for this cross-post, but it is relevant to all of the lists specified. I am just wondering if my experience is so much different, or if I use the distro differently than other users, that it seems so much stable for me. Often i see people recommending against "zypper dup", recommending "tumbleweed-cli" instead of "zypper dup", using "opi" for codecs install instead of 1-click install on opensuse-community, and so on, because the system "could" or "will for sure" break at some time. Why there is a need for all this fancy and new stuff and is it possible that these combinations and diversity increases possibility for issues? Given all of these, I should have had my home machines broken already a million times and burned to death. - I am using Tumbleweed - I have all these repositories enabled: [1] (yes, no priorities currently) - I have "zypper dup", "zypper inr", "zypper ve" in my daily cron job - I have enabled vendor changes in zypper conf - I have disabled multiversion.kernel in zypper conf (keeps kernel packages with their dependencies and/or DKMS clean and working) - I have disabled snapper as a whole - I have installed some VMWare software from their crappy .run packages, which means some parts are compiled from source During my over-15 years-long experience with *SUSE, i never experienced an unbootable system or a serious issue, except: - Nvidia driver issues before they were packaged for *SUSE and you had to use the .run installation ( ancient SaX2 times, before Xorg autoconfiguration ). On my gaming system i have just enabled nvidia repos and forgot about it. - Akonadi issues because of my experiments with bleeding edge mariadb in combination with my mailbox containing few million e-mails, also many years back - Btrfs issues (total system crash) when it was unstable and i had enabled snapper an ran out of space - which was resolved by reinstall and re-mounting my /home/ (i am not using snapper since then) So my question is - have the RPM dependencies gone weaker than they were "before" or something? Could that combination of all the emergency safe features, like btrfs snapshots in combination with multiversion kernel and/or packages, tumbleweed-cli, opi, etc...? Why are RPM deps not enough to keep the system solid anymore? My experience with *SUSE has always been rock-solid-stable and one of the very few things i do manually from time to time is firing up yast2 sw_single, removing unmaintained packages and checking change-logs of some packages i am interested/care of. Take this as a congrats and thanks for all the maintainers, developers and everyone taking care. And most importantly, the OBS, which does pretty neat job with automatic package dependencies and all that stuff. One more time - thank you OBS and all the people developing and working on it! :) And while i am doing this braindump, please revive SUSE Studio :P :) And last, but not least - thanks Packman people :) [1]: https://paste.opensuse.org/view/raw/38599835 Regards, Gryffus

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Alternatives to kwin?
by Peter Suetterlin 01 Jun '22

01 Jun '22

Hi list, are there any real alternatives to kwin when using plasma/KDE? That piece of ***** really drives me away from plasma more and more. It has always been a PITA that, e.g. when running some SDL1 game in ful screen, it went shuffling ALL windows in ALL desktops wildly around and not restoring positions when resolution is changed back. Now it also starts RESIZING them. Got an idea what that means on a work machine with a 5k screen and 6 virtual desktops? Has anyone used openbox with KDE? Is it usable?

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leap 15.3 - cups web-interface hanging up ?
by Per Jessen 31 May '22

31 May '22

I have just upgraded our printserver to Leap 15.3 and the cups web interface appears to hang up, often taking 20-30 seconds to load. At start-up, I see a couple of error messages in the log, but I think they're unrelated: E [31/May/2022:15:55:09 +0200] [CGI] cups-brf must be called as root E [31/May/2022:15:55:09 +0200] [cups-deviced] PID 11775 (cups-brf) stopped with status 1! E [31/May/2022:15:56:03 +0200] [cups-driverd] Bad driver information file \"/usr/share/cups/drv/cupsfilters.drv\"! E [31/May/2022:15:56:03 +0200] [cups-driverd] Bad driver information file \"/usr/share/cups/drv/generic-brf.drv\"! E [31/May/2022:15:56:03 +0200] [cups-driverd] Bad driver information file \"/usr/share/cups/drv/generic-ubrl.drv\"! E [31/May/2022:15:56:03 +0200] [cups-driverd] Bad driver information file \"/usr/share/cups/drv/indexv3.drv\"! E [31/May/2022:15:56:03 +0200] [cups-driverd] Bad driver information file \"/usr/share/cups/drv/indexv4.drv\"! E [31/May/2022:15:56:03 +0200] [cups-driverd] Bad driver information file \"/usr/share/cups/drv/sample.drv\"! -- Per Jessen, Zürich (20.4°C)

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Why No gcc-arm-none-eabi package for Leap?
by David C. Rankin 29 May '22

29 May '22

All, Having installed to /opt on 15.0, I was hoping we might find a gcc-arm-none-eabi package for 15.4 given the increasing popularity (and dependence) on microcontrollers. There is a build service package available, but this seems like something openSUSE would want to package? Any thoughts on this? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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Able of Difference:
by -pj 29 May '22

29 May '22

You know only Google, I like Yandex. I am not as smart as you ok so I stopped. I do care for Lenin and I respect others. I am not the best typer but I can try. Lenin will always be with Monoprice and others of the state and even Stasi. Don't need to pick on me when I use an OS but slam the libbies.

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Re: ways to contribute to openSUSE
by Carlos E. R. 28 May '22

28 May '22

On 2022-05-28 18:29, jdd(a)dodin.org wrote: > Le 28/05/2022 à 17:39, Carlos E. R. a écrit : > >> Millions of people living in the USA or Canada use SMS texting.They are >> not even aware of whatsapp (for example) or why would they be using it. >> > > I don't believe that. They may not use whats'app, but they certainly > know about it, as they know about facebook/messenger I know first hand. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from Elesar, using openSUSE Leap 15.3)

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Re: ways to contribute to openSUSE
by Carlos E. R. 28 May '22

28 May '22

On 2022-05-28 18:32, jdd(a)dodin.org wrote: > Le 28/05/2022 à 17:54, Patrick Shanahan a écrit : > >> nothing is free (of charge) but hidden within (THE plan). but yes, sms >> does not incur *additional* charges on most accounts now, but did in the >> past. >> >> > still do :-( > > I can phone for free to my LA living daugther, but If I send her a SMS, > I'm charged :-(, whats'app, messenger are free :-( Look up RCS. <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rich_Communication_Services> «*Rich Communication Services* From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Rich Communication Services (RCS)[1] is a communication protocol between mobile telephone carriers and between phone and carrier, aiming at replacing SMS messages with a text-message system that is richer, provides phonebook polling (for service discovery), and can transmit in-call multimedia. It is part of the broader IP Multimedia Subsystem. Google added support for end-to-end encryption for one-on-one conversations in their own extension.[2] It is also marketed as Advanced Messaging,[3] Chat, joyn, SMSoIP,[4] Message+, and SMS+.[5] In early 2020, it was estimated that RCS was available from 88 operators in 59 countries with approximately 390 million users per month.[6]» If both phones have it (uses the same SMS default app), SMS messages then use the internet network instead of the original and expensive phone provider data services used for SMS. In my phone, if I start to type and there is a tiny "sms" text by the button arrow to "send", that indicates that the message will have a cost according to the phone provider. If there is nothing (and the box is probably coloured in blue), then the message will use internet (can be WiFi) and is zero cost, even if sending photos, except whatever your internet connection costs you. There is also a competing service/app from google named "chat". I still do not have clear what this is. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from Elesar, using openSUSE Leap 15.3)

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"This video cannot be played"
by Douglas McGarrett 27 May '22

27 May '22

I have received a number of messages from various sources with a video attached, but across the face of what must be the first screen, is the message, "This video cannot be played." I'm curious--what kind of video is being sent that cannot be player, and why? --doug

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Tip: IOS Files + Samba - seamless access to $HOME through phone over Wifi
by David C. Rankin 27 May '22

27 May '22

All, After being forced to update my phone (they took down 3G), a pleasant surprise was the "Files" app that will connect to any available smb server. I may be late to this party, but this was a huge improvement with the pain of e-mailing from my phone to my server to transfer files on the old iphone 4s. If you haven't discovered samba on Linux, then a simple way to share your files with your phone is to install the samba package, and you can use a simple config to share $HOME and make your files available to via the Files app. (note: samba 4.15 is fine, but 4.16 introduced a bug that broke sharing of [homes] in standalone mode, https://bugzilla.samba.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15062, this will be fixed in the next 4.16.x release) 15.4 still has samba 4.15, so you are fine. Double check if on Tumbleweed. The cliffs notes version, create a trivial /etc/samba/smb.conf to share your $HOME (done through the [homes] share in the config). A basic config is: [global] dns proxy = No map to guest = Bad User printcap name = cups security = USER server string = %h Samba %v workgroup = WORKGROUP map to guest = Bad User cups options = raw vfs objects = fruit streams_xattr [homes] browseable = No comment = Home Directories read only = No (The 'vfs objects' config is required to handle IOS connections, and of course you are free to change 'WORKGROUP' to whatever) You can limit connections to your specific subnet or specific IP addresses with a space separated list, e.g.: hosts allow = 192.168.0. (when done editing smb.conf, run 'testparm' to check your config and see a dump of the settings. If no errors, all is good) To add valid samba users, all that is needed is: # smbpasswd -a username Use Yast-firewall to add 'samba' to the public zone, and then start 'nmb' and 'smb', e.g. # systemctl start nmb # systemctl start smb (to have it automatically start at boot, substitute 'enable' for 'start' and re-run the two commands above) That's it. Just open the Files app on your IOS device, click the ... menu and "Connect to Server", type in your hostname, then next and enter your samba user name (keep it the same as your Linux user), and pw and presto, $HOME appears on your phone. I'm no IOS fan, but this is one app they got right. So long as your IOS device is connected to your LAN via Wifi, Files provides access to all smb shares available. (I also recommend disconnecting from local shares before leaving your wireless range. Otherwise, if you need to access Files on your phone while away, you will wait through ~60 sec timeout as Files tries to connect to your server -- something discovered while trying to pull up my auto-insurance information to hand to a friendly DPS officer...) -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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Firefox 91 - "Web Content" Higher CPU Demand - Any Way To Minimize?
by David C. Rankin 26 May '22

26 May '22

All, One thing I've noticed with FF 91 compared to FF 78 on 15.0 is FF 91 is quite a bit heavier on the CPU that 78. top shows the culprit to be "Web Content". This is with the exact same pages open. I first noticed this by the fan level on my laptop. Checking, rather an an intermittent "Web Content" process waking up and doing whatever it does, it now runs a majority of the time. Not continually, but close. In the past, Xorg was the leader (as expected) running at 0.997% CPU. (that's damn good). But now "Web Content" is continually up with Xorg demanding 0.997% (or 0.664% at times). The end result is a slightly higher CPU demand at idle than with 15.0. This is down on the fine-tuned end of things. I generally tune my setup until the laptop fans are silent at idle. Goal is a "load average:" at idle in top of 0.01 0.01 0.01 or less. Currently it is 0.03 or 0.02 and the difference is "Web Content". Below is the top output (it's a bit higher because I'm editing this in Tbird at the moment), but the rest is representative. Web Content is more active than normal in this slice: top - 13:01:31 up 3 days, 19:28, 2 users, load average: 0.01, 0.06, 0.08 Tasks: 230 total, 1 running, 227 sleeping, 0 stopped, 2 zombie %Cpu0 : 0.5/0.5 1[ ] %Cpu1 : 1.0/0.5 1[| ] %Cpu2 : 0.5/0.5 1[ ] %Cpu3 : 1.0/0.5 1[| ] MiB Mem : 7890.094 total, 377.703 free, 2515.207 used, 4997.184 buff/cache MiB Swap: 2057.996 total, 2056.246 free, 1.750 used. 5025.125 avail Mem PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND 26125 david 20 0 3667.9m 615.8m 195.5m S 1.493 7.804 1:06.31 thunderbird-bin 26752 david 20 0 36.3m 4.3m 3.4m R 0.995 0.055 0:00.04 top 2236 david 20 0 13.4m 3.2m 2.2m S 0.498 0.040 1:38.60 gam_server 7303 david 20 0 5514.3m 1.047g 315.3m S 0.498 13.58 31:00.42 firefox 7370 david 20 0 3045.8m 294.5m 167.2m S 0.498 3.733 18:06.73 Web Content 7475 david 20 0 2559.2m 141.1m 95.8m S 0.498 1.788 1:05.96 Web Content 1 root 20 0 219.3m 14.2m 8.8m S 0.000 0.180 0:03.52 systemd 2 root 20 0 0.0m 0.0m 0.0m S 0.000 0.000 0:00.07 kthreadd Rest of the processes are all 0.00 in %CPU and %MEM. Also, what is gam_server? (I think it is also related to FF) Don't recall that being in the top-5 either (though it isn't much). Any ideas how I can tweak Web Content in FF91 to make it behave a bit better? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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[opensuse] Memtest & UEFI
by James Knott 26 May '22

26 May '22

In openSUSE 15.1, memtest, as installed, would not work with UEFI. Has this been fixed in 15.2? There is a version on the memtest website that will work with it. tnx jk -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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X virtual frame buffer
by Roger Oberholtzer 25 May '22

25 May '22

I have a headless 15.3 system that I would like to access remotely. I need access to the desktop (i.e. X). When there is no display attached, X does not start. I wanted to install xf86-video-dummy, but it complains: error: Failed dependencies: X11_ABI_VIDEODRV = 25.2 is needed by xf86-video-dummy-0.4.0-lp153.24.1.x86_64 So I am guessing that X on 15.3 has recently changed the ABI. The installed xf86-video-* were built on May 2019. Note that these were still the ones that eventually were installed on Feb 2022. Unfortunately I did not install the dummy driver at that time. The change seems recent. As an alternative, I see that one could add some config to X for this. I read mixed things about how that works in terms of systems not booting. I also was considering xrand (xrandr --fb 1280x1024 -display :0). Seems starting that via ssh can be iffy depending on how it is handling X. So I have not been able to test it. If I make it start when the system boots, could it do anything to keep the system from booting? -- Roger Oberholtzer

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System slowdowns
by Marc Chamberlin 24 May '22

24 May '22

Hi - I have a number of openSuSE 15.3 x64 that periodically experience bad sluggishness in responding to keyboard or mouse input. This can get frustrating with delays up to a minute or so after clicking on a button, or typing in a window. This occurs across all applications/windows open on a KDE desktop. Ksysguard aka System Monitor, nor top, do not show my why these slowdowns occur. I monitor CPU %, I/O Reads/Writes, Network activity and don't see anything indicating abnormal consumption of time. So given the fact that I am NOT a guru on Linux systems, what else can I do to try and track down (and hopefully fix or find a solution to) what is going on with my computers. What strategy(s) should I follow and what other tools might be helpful? Thanks for any advice/help in advance.... Marc.... -- *"The Truth is out there" - Spooky* *_ _ . . . . . . _ _ . _ _ _ _ . . . . _ . . . . _ _ . _ _ _ . . . . _ _ . _ . . _ . _ _ _ _ . _ . _ . _ . _ . * Computers: the final frontier. These are the voyages of the user Marc. His mission: to explore strange new hardware. To seek out new software and new applications. To boldly go where no Marc has gone before! (/This email is digitally signed and the OpenPGP electronic signature is added as an attachment. If you know how, you can use my public key to prove this email indeed came from me and has not been modified in transit. My public key, which can be used for sending encrypted email to me also, can be found at - https://keys.openpgp.org/search?q=marc@marcchamberlin.com or just ask me for it and I will send it to you as an attachment. If you don't understand all this geek speak, no worries, just ignore this explanation and ignore the OpenPGP signature key attached to this email (it will look like gibberish if you open it) and/or ask me to explain it further if you like./)

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15.4 - Tbird 91 font size fiasco [work-around]
by David C. Rankin 24 May '22

24 May '22

All, One giant headache moving to Tbird 91 (aside from the loss of enigmail and the screwy way gpg keys are handled) is that font sizing just sucks. Nothing works to set the folder pane (tree) or thread pane (tree) to something readable. The new approach is to have you use the aboud:config editor and set: layout.css.devPixelsPerPx ( 1.0 is base, can go in increments of .05, etc.. to grow or shrink interface font size) However, in reality all this does is stretch the line height and there is no independent control of the folder pane and thread pane. So if you want to increase the size of the message list (thread pane) you end up making the folder list too big and vice versa. The problem is Mozilla, in true Plasma or Gtk4 fashion has removed the ability to set the interface elements through userChrome. The did so by disabling the following by default: toolkit.legacyUserProfileCustomizations.stylesheets The good news is you can set that to true and have the userChrome file read by Tbird on start. This will restore the ability to adjust the font size of the folder pane or thread pane individually, e.g. /* thread pane font */ #threadTree > treechildren { font-size: 9pt !important; font-family: sans-serif !important; } /* folder pane font */ #folderTree > treechildren { font-size: 8pt !important; font-family: sans-serif !important; } After wasting an hour playing with various approaches I stumbled onto the following answer on Unix & Linux on StackExchange: https://superuser.com/a/1678336/439609 Hopefully this will save someone else the wasted hour trying to figure out why what has always worked for fonts no longer works in Tbird 91 -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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18 Months Later - I'm getting list mail through suddenlinkmail.com
by David C. Rankin 23 May '22

23 May '22

All, I don't believe it, but beginning day before yesterday, I started getting openSUSE list mails through suddenlinkmail.com (factory and users). Par for course. Trouble ticket opened 9/2020, and just now fixed! Go figure. Thanks to Patrick and rest for keeping mail flowing before I gave up and went to gmail. (will leave both accounts up for a week or so to make sure this isn't a fluke) -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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Netdiscover - wrong source address
by James Knott 22 May '22

22 May '22

I recently installed netdiscover and noticed by default it uses the wrong source address. I set the range to my home LAN (172.16.0.0/24) and when I run it, it shows a source address of 172.16.0.67 on my desktop computer, which should be 172.16.0.10 and my ThinkPad (172.16.0.40). I can force the correct address with the -n option. Also, when I get a capture, it shows some, but not all of the devices on my LAN, but also several lines of nonsense addresses such as 192.168.0.67, 192.168.1.67, etc., all with the MAC from the computer I'm running it on. Here are some examples. Only the first line is a valid address. 172.16.0.92 96:60:ae:bd:84:7f 28 1680 Unknown vendor 192.168.0.67 38:59:f9:e0:7d:5d 254 15240 Hon Hai Precision Ind. Co.,Ltd. 192.168.1.67 38:59:f9:e0:7d:5d 254 15240 Hon Hai Precision Ind. Co.,Ltd. 192.168.2.67 38:59:f9:e0:7d:5d 254 15240 Hon Hai Precision Ind. Co.,Ltd. 192.168.3.67 38:59:f9:e0:7d:5d 254 15240 Hon Hai Precision Ind. Co.,Ltd. 192.168.4.67 38:59:f9:e0:7d:5d 254 15240 Hon Hai Precision Ind. Co.,Ltd. 192.168.5.67 38:59:f9:e0:7d:5d 254 15240 Hon Hai Precision Ind. Co.,Ltd. 192.168.6.67 38:59:f9:e0:7d:5d 254 15240 Hon Hai Precision Ind. Co.,Ltd. 192.168.7.67 38:59:f9:e0:7d:5d 254 15240 Hon Hai Precision Ind. Co.,Ltd. That Hon Hai name also is shown on the valid address for my ThinkPad. Has anyone else experienced this? tnx jk 192.168.8.67 38:59:f9:e0:7d:5d 254 15240 Hon Hai Precision Ind. Co.,Ltd. 192.168.9.67 38:59:f9:e0:7d:5d 254 15240 Hon Hai Precision Ind. Co.,Ltd. 192.168.10.67 38:59:f9:e0:7d:5d 254 15240 Hon Hai Precision Ind. Co.,Ltd. 192.168.11.67 38:59:f9:e0:7d:5d 254 15240 Hon Hai Precision Ind. Co.,Ltd.

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problem with MAX_DAYS_IN_TMP= ??
by jdd＠dodin.org 22 May '22

22 May '22

zypper ref says on my 15.3: Repository 'SUSE:SLE-15-SP3:GA' is invalid. I find in https://www.suse.com/support/kb/doc/?id=000018127 Resolution Please clean up temporary directories in /tmp or /var/tmp. Do have the system clean up these directories on boot please edit /etc/sysconfig/cron and change the values for: but in this cron file I see ## The Parameters MAX_DAYS_IN_TMP, MAX_DAYS_IN_LONG_TMP, TMP_DIRS_TO_CLEAR, ## LONG_TMP_DIRS_TO_CLEAR, CLEAR_TMP_DIRS_AT_BOOTUP and OWNER_TO_KEEP_IN_TMP have ## been converted to systemd-tmpfiles settings in /etc/tmpfiles.d/tmp.conf. ## Please check and modify to your needs. ## See 'man tmpfiles.d' for details. there is no tmp.conf file on my 15.3 install and the tmpfiles.d man page is not that clear for me. any help? notice than cleaning the tmp dir manually didn't help (but I can't reboot just now) thanks jdd -- http://dodin.org http://valeriedodin.com

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Upgrade of 15.3 to 15.4 (beta? rc?) went fine
by cagsm 21 May '22

21 May '22

Users, upgrading online some 15.3 to 15.4 just today (beta? rc?) via zypper and golbal parameter --releasever=15.4 went fine over here with a rather simple test system. Too bad 15.4 is very conservative and old in various software versions and so on. Is a tumbleweed more suited when not wanting to risk stability and not opting in for data loss? ty

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15.4 Beta Report - All Good (2 Bugs Filed - 3 Bugs Fixed) Working Like a Champ
by David C. Rankin 21 May '22

21 May '22

All, Short report on 15.4 Beta, after relatively smooth install, ext4 w BIOS Boot, / and /home, Minimal Desktop, (IceWM), Addition and install of KDE3, two bugs filed: * https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1199473 (Not a kde bug - Gnome stripped subcategories from xdg menu (grab 15.3 package) * https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1199643 (both icon-select and shortcut dialog issues - FIXED; Yasuhiko Kamata has been a Rock Star) While I haven't gotten to cinelerra yet or kdevelop, etc..., all other desktop aspects: * libreoffice, Tbird, FF. gcc-7 and gcc-11 installed and working fine. * OO calc has a full-screen hang if launched on first use through the calc icon, but launching libreoffice starts windowed and choosing calc there opens calc windowed setting whatever wasn't set causing hang. * goal of Qt4 removal may be a bit premature, issues remain, but factory:frameworks5 repo contains all qt6-4 libs, so there is a ready workaround while the transition takes place. * No showstoppers, great job all and kudos to the openSUSE/SLE devs. Looks like 15.4 is a keeper. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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list directory in ext4 filesystem
by Dave Howorth 20 May '22

20 May '22

Is there any way to display the contents of a directory in an ext4 filesystem? I don't mean an ls, I mean a byte by byte inspection of the actual directory structure. I have what is apparently a rather large directory, which is also empty: $ ls -ld files/ drwxr-xr-x 2 motion motion 3215360 May 9 00:55 files/ $ ls -l files/ total 0 od for example won't open it: $ od files od: files: read error: Is a directory 0000000 it's on the root filesystem which is supposedly clean: $ sudo e2fsck -n -v /dev/root e2fsck 1.42.5 (29-Jul-2012) Warning! /dev/root is mounted. Warning: skipping journal recovery because doing a read-only filesystem check. root: clean, 90733/897600 files, 1419737/3583744 blocks (it's a rather old SD-card-based system I'd rather not reinstall) I'm tempted to just delete the directory and recreate it, but I'd like to understand what happened first if I can.

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Will 15.2 cinelerra repo work for 15.4?
by David C. Rankin 20 May '22

20 May '22

Devs, The last cinelerra repo is 15.2: https://cinelerra-gg.org/download/pkgs/leap15.2/ Will that be compatible with 15.4 from a library standpoint? I know some packages like virtualbox, cinelerra, etc.. are relatively generic from a build version standpoint. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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Re: Request of testing new fingerprint reader library
by Lukáš Krejza 19 May '22

19 May '22

Dne čtvrtek 19. května 2022 10:45:04 CEST, Benjamin Berg napsal(a): > Hi, > > On Thu, 2022-05-19 at 00:17 +0200, Lukáš Krejza wrote: > > Dne čtvrtek 19. května 2022 0:04:06 CEST, Neal Gompa napsal(a): > > > > The original plan was to do that, but since it has not been the case yet > > (and it is already some time that this fork exist), distributions started > > to switch to this one for the time being. It does not seem that this fork > > will merge back to mainline anytime soon, so we are just following > > general "trend" of other distros to support more use-cases and hardware > > for the users. > There never was a plan to merge the TOD branch back into libfprint > upstream. > > For any driver that is open source, we are or course happy to work with > the developers to integrate it into upstream libfprint. > > The TOD branch exists to enable non-free code to be loaded (into the > GPL'ed fprintd binary). There are good reasons for me to accept that > this is happening and I have little power to do anything against it. > However, I hope that there is no false impression that upstream > libfprint is condoning the existence of the TOD branch and non-free > drivers in particular. > > > Also, the mainline devs are actively solving bugs reported by users using > > the "-tod" fork, as you can see for example here: > > https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/ libfprint/libfprint/-/issues/436 . > > Not really. The TOD fork just adds an extra feature that allows side > loading more code. It makes little sense to ignore valid bug reports > for the main library. Doing so would be detrimental to everyone, > including users of upstream libfprint. > > All I am doing in that bug is not actively sabotaging users of the TOD > fork as there is a benefit to everyone. > > > Also, developers themselves are pointing users to the fork, as you can see > > here: https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/libfprint/libfprint/-/issues/267 > > People wear multiple hats, so the line can be blurry. The person > posting the link contributed the goodixmoc driver, and is likely also > involved with the non-free goodix driver that appears to exists for > other chipsets. > > I didn't delete the reference. But I also don't feel that the > discussion there gives the impression that upstream is condoning the > existence of the TOD branch and loading non-free code. > > Benjamin Thank you Benjamin for explaining your opinion about the situation and clearing it out further. I have contacted board and asked for their decision, they should have also ability to contact SUSE legal team, if required. Regards, Gryffus

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15.4 Beta - Hangs on shutdown (will not turn off - stops with unresponsive text login shown)
by David C. Rankin 19 May '22

19 May '22

All, 15.4 hangs on shutdown. It can reboot, but doesn't release drive making the 15.4 drive unavailable for subsequent boot until a full shutdown is performed. Several releases ago this was also an issue. I'm on 15.0 now, but will shutdown and reboot into 15.4 and check journal and follow-up. Is there a known issue or list of things to check if the journal doesn't provide anything conclusive. (if I recall from last time it wasn't much help) -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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Re: Request of testing new fingerprint reader library
by Lukáš Krejza 18 May '22

18 May '22

Dne čtvrtek 19. května 2022 0:04:06 CEST, Neal Gompa napsal(a): > On Wed, May 18, 2022 at 5:51 PM Lukáš Krejza <gryffus(a)hkfree.org> wrote: > > Hello list(s), > > > > we, together with Florian "Sp1rit" have created packages for "new" > > libfprint- tod library/fork, which is going to replace current one used > > in distribution. This library has advantage of loading external drivers > > as libraries, typically closed source ones. These closed source drivers > > are soon going to appear on Packman as "libfprint2-tod1-*" packages (the > > SR is pending). The library source code is located on > > https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/3v1n0/libfprint/-/ tree/tod and is always > > re-based on current libfprint "upstream". It is also the default one in > > Ubuntu, Arch and Debian (if i checked correctly). > > > > We are able to test the closed source drivers, since we have access to > > devices using them. However, what we cannot test are fingerprint readers, > > that are supported directly by libfprint library. > > > > For this, i would like to ask anyone, who is using his fingerprint reader > > on openSUSE Tumbleweed with libfprint library to test with this new > > library using following steps: > > > > 1) Add home:sp1rit:factory repository: > > :~> sudo zypper ar --refresh --name libfprint-tod https:// > > > > download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/sp1rit:/factory/openSUSE_Tumblewe > > ed/ home:sp1rit:factory.repo > > > > 2) Install libfprint-2-2 package from it (and do NOT install libfprint-2- > > > > tod1): > > :~> sudo zypper in --from libfprint-tod libfprint-2-2 fprintd > > > > 3) Open one terminal window, su to root and start fprintd in debug mode: > > :~> su [enter] > > :~ # env G_MESSAGES_DEBUG=all /usr/libexec/fprintd > > > > 4) Open second terminal window and enroll or verify fingerprint (as normal > > > > user): > > :~> fprintd-enroll > > > > or > > > > :~> fprintd-verify > > > > That is all. After this test, please send us output from the terminal > > window, that you started fprintd in debug mode (step 3) in. You can use > > https:// paste.opensuse.org/ for that. > > > > For switching back to original libfprint, just remove the repository: > > :~> sudo zypper rr libfprint-tod > > > > and install original libfprint > > > > :~> sudo zypper in libfprint-2-2 fprintd > > > > That should be all. > > > > @Fridrich, @Matthias, @Timo: > > I am CCing you in case you missed discussion that happened on Factory ML. > > If you have any objection against planned switch, please step up now. We > > will be doing SR to hardware/libfprint in forthcomming days, when we get > > some confirmation that it is working correctly for the users using > > "native" libfprint. > > > > Thanks very much to everyone involved for helping openSUSE get better and > > better! > > Is there any plan to reconcile this back into mainline? Or is this a > permanent incompatible fork of libfprint? The previous discussion[1] > didn't seem to indicate there was any such plan going on. It seems > kind of bad to switch to a fork like this without at least some kind > of plan for reconciling them. > > [1]: > https://lists.opensuse.org/archives/list/factory@lists.opensuse.org/thread/ > 6R75CILJ3GAUSKMNJ7ERYZLH75QF5UHX/ The original plan was to do that, but since it has not been the case yet (and it is already some time that this fork exist), distributions started to switch to this one for the time being. It does not seem that this fork will merge back to mainline anytime soon, so we are just following general "trend" of other distros to support more use-cases and hardware for the users. Also, the mainline devs are actively solving bugs reported by users using the "-tod" fork, as you can see for example here: https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/ libfprint/libfprint/-/issues/436 . Also, developers themselves are pointing users to the fork, as you can see here: https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/libfprint/libfprint/-/issues/267 Regards, Gryffus

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Request of testing new fingerprint reader library
by Lukáš Krejza 18 May '22

18 May '22

Hello list(s), we, together with Florian "Sp1rit" have created packages for "new" libfprint- tod library/fork, which is going to replace current one used in distribution. This library has advantage of loading external drivers as libraries, typically closed source ones. These closed source drivers are soon going to appear on Packman as "libfprint2-tod1-*" packages (the SR is pending). The library source code is located on https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/3v1n0/libfprint/-/ tree/tod and is always re-based on current libfprint "upstream". It is also the default one in Ubuntu, Arch and Debian (if i checked correctly). We are able to test the closed source drivers, since we have access to devices using them. However, what we cannot test are fingerprint readers, that are supported directly by libfprint library. For this, i would like to ask anyone, who is using his fingerprint reader on openSUSE Tumbleweed with libfprint library to test with this new library using following steps: 1) Add home:sp1rit:factory repository: :~> sudo zypper ar --refresh --name libfprint-tod https:// download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/sp1rit:/factory/openSUSE_Tumblewee… home:sp1rit:factory.repo 2) Install libfprint-2-2 package from it (and do NOT install libfprint-2- tod1): :~> sudo zypper in --from libfprint-tod libfprint-2-2 fprintd 3) Open one terminal window, su to root and start fprintd in debug mode: :~> su [enter] :~ # env G_MESSAGES_DEBUG=all /usr/libexec/fprintd 4) Open second terminal window and enroll or verify fingerprint (as normal user): :~> fprintd-enroll or :~> fprintd-verify That is all. After this test, please send us output from the terminal window, that you started fprintd in debug mode (step 3) in. You can use https:// paste.opensuse.org/ for that. For switching back to original libfprint, just remove the repository: :~> sudo zypper rr libfprint-tod and install original libfprint :~> sudo zypper in libfprint-2-2 fprintd That should be all. @Fridrich, @Matthias, @Timo: I am CCing you in case you missed discussion that happened on Factory ML. If you have any objection against planned switch, please step up now. We will be doing SR to hardware/libfprint in forthcomming days, when we get some confirmation that it is working correctly for the users using "native" libfprint. Thanks very much to everyone involved for helping openSUSE get better and better! Regards and happy hacking, Gryffus

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How to disable Green screen with 3-squares on boot? Remove all plymouth? (nvidia driver)
by David C. Rankin 18 May '22

18 May '22

All, How do I get rid the the green boot screen with the three little squares that light a bit? I have the nvidia driver installed, so I think that kills anything useful the screen does. On 15.0 it was something like rpm -e all of plymouth. Will that still work or is there an easier way just to disable it? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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With Beta do we 'zypper up' or 'zypper dup' to update packages? (growing list of NOT installed)
by David C. Rankin 18 May '22

18 May '22

All, I don't know why, but I seem to recall that with a Beta release, we should 'zypper dup' to update packages instead of 'zypper up'. I've been doing 'zypper up' out of habit and I have a growing list of The following 22 package updates will NOT be installed: Is this due to using 'up' instead of 'dup' on a Beta or is this just newer versions blocked due to "vendor change" not being automatically allowed? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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15.4 Beta - Update or patch keepassxc for bug 7813 (natural sort)
by David C. Rankin 18 May '22

18 May '22

Devs, keepassxc is currently ver 2.6.6. This is an older keepassxc that doesn't provide a natural sort of the entries: https://github.com/keepassxreboot/keepassxc/issues/7813 In the current version for 15.4, entries sort: A B ... Y Z a b ... y z For large collections of entries, this makes it impossible to find the key you are looking for unless you can remember whether you started the Title with an uppercase or lowercase letter. This is fixed in current version 2.7.1 and you get a natural case-insensitive sort for the entries. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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[oS-en] XFCE problem: when there is no internet, xfce fails to restore the session
by Carlos E. R. 17 May '22

17 May '22

XFCE problem: when there is no internet, xfce fails to restore the session On boot, I have to login, make sure the network manager connection activates (the connection is slow, via tethering), and when it connects, i have to kill the X session with ctrl-alt-backspace twice, so that session is not saved. When it restarts, then it recovers the per-pre-session, the correct one. I have been experiencing this on two computers, but only now identified to origin. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.3)

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Unnecessary .spec entry: Obsoletes: keepassx < 2.0.4 (prevents install of non-conflicting package)
by David C. Rankin 17 May '22

17 May '22

Devs, I just spent 30 minutes rebuilding keepassxc to remove the unneeded line in the .spec of Obsoletes: keepassx < 2.0.4 keepassxc does not conflict with keepassx in any way. All the Obsoletes does is prevent someone from building and installing both at the same time. Linux is about choice, and if I choose to install both so I can edit my older keepassx files before import into keepassxc -- then I should be able to do so. The changelog states this was done because keepassx depends on Qt4 and at some point that dependency will no longer be available. I get that. But while it is -- don't put Obsoletes in the keepassxc file, because the Qt4 files are still available. In fact there are Qt6 packages that specifically provide the Qt6 & Qt4 dependencies because Qt4 isn't completely gone yet. Even when it isn't packages by openSUSE any longer, if I'm creative enough to provide the dependency on my own, the keepassxc package shouldn't be so arrogant as to tell me it's either one or the other, but I can't have both installed. That's just categorically false. I'd expect something like this on Windows, but not Linux. I would certainly vote to remove this line from the .spec before the actual 15.4 release. (not to mention the keepassxc package is a full 68X larger than keepassx and takes about that many times longer to build), e.g. -rw-r--r-- 1 david david 773248 May 17 00:33 keepassx-0.4.3-9.1.x86_64.rpm -rw-r--r-- 1 david david 51992192 May 17 01:19 keepassxc-2.6.6-bp154.2.59.x86_64.rpm -rw-r--r-- 1 david david 998640 May 17 01:19 keepassxc-lang-2.6.6-bp154.2.59.noarch.rpm Poor laptop thought it was building PHP again...... -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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Re: X virtual frame buffer
by Roger Oberholtzer 17 May '22

17 May '22

Auto-login makes no difference here. I wish I had access to the system now, but it is not currently available. The X log ends saying that as no display was found, X will not be started. I need to find a way to not have the X server do that. Those were the three options I was considering. On Mon, May 16, 2022 at 5:43 PM Bill Swisher <bill(a)luddites.org> wrote: > > On 5/16/22 04:10, Roger Oberholtzer wrote: > > Hmmmm...what I do is let the remote computer boot with my profile doing an > auto-login, available in yast/user/advanced. I have 'alias ssh="ssh -X"', I > haven't found many things that won't work from a xterm. I just need to know how > to get to them, I spend a lot of my time in a xterm. They run really slow over > the internet, slowly over the WiFi and better over a 1Gbs switch, but they do > seem to work. I just tested LibreOffice, which I have 'alias > oo="/usr/bin/libreoffice"', the oo is a relic from OpenOffice. vlc useless and > complains about the audio when I screw up and try to run it at 1Gbs. Hope this > helps, if not then sorry to have taken up your time. -- Roger Oberholtzer

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TW fish filesystem bug in Dolphin.
by Ariez Vachha - openSUSE 17 May '22

17 May '22

TW fish filesystem bug in dolphin. Dolphin tries to open directories such as conf.d as a regular file when clicked on. Navigating via the address bar works fine. The underlying sshfs fused filesystem is working fine i.e. F4 open terminal in Dolphin and changing directory works fine. How to reproduce: 1. Open fish://server.com/some-dir/ 2. Open directory with .d extension by clicking Expected result; directory opens in dolphin Observed result; dolphin tries to open the directory as a regular file. Regards, Ariez ajv(a)opensuse.org

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Leap 15.4 Beta - Shave 30 seconds off boot time (WAIT_FOR_INTERFACES="1")
by David C. Rankin 16 May '22

16 May '22

All, My 15.0 would boot from off to full desktop in 12 seconds (kdm3/kde3). I installed 15.4 Beta and boot times were a little over 43 seconds. I wanted 15.4 to boot like 15.0. Going back to my notes, checked the same /etc/sysconfig/network/config setting and reduced the timeout from 30 to 1 and presto 15.4 beta boots from off to full desktop (kdm3/kde3) in 13 seconds! (I'll find that extra second yet) The /etc/sysconfig/network/config setting at issue is: ## Type: integer ## Default: 30 # # Some interfaces need some time to come up or come asynchronously via hotplug. # WAIT_FOR_INTERFACES is a global wait for all mandatory interfaces in # seconds. If empty no wait occurs. # #WAIT_FOR_INTERFACES="30" WAIT_FOR_INTERFACES="1" I'm not sure why there is a full 30 second default used, (one of the devs in the know will have to chime in), but I suspect it is related to dongles and non-built in hardware. For builtin hardware you ethernet and wifi hardware, you can check dmesg and locate how much time is needed to find and initialize yours. At any rate this will be done well before the OS boots to the point sysconfig is involved. It's worth tinkering with if you are a boot-time conscious user... -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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15.4 Beta - solver.dupAllowVendorChange default changed to 'true'?
by David C. Rankin 16 May '22

16 May '22

Devs, Why was there a default change to 'true' for solver.dupAllowVendorChange? In all prior releases of leap I have this has always been 'false'. Now it seems we have: ## Set whether to allow changing the packages vendor upon DUP. If you ## are following a continuous distribution like Tumbleweed or Factory ## where you use 'zypper dup --no-allow-vendor-change' quite frequently, ## you may indeed benefit from disabling the VendorChange. Packages from ## OBS repos will then be kept rather than being overwritten by Tumbleweeds ## version. ## ## Valid values: boolean ## Default value: true ## solver.dupAllowVendorChange = false I've set this to false because I don't want vendor changes on dup (I have packman, etc.. repos and on dup when 15.4 is released, I don't want there to be various packages from different repos installed unless I explicitly tell zypper to change vendors. Has this become safer where there is no longer a risk of getting a smattering of packages from say packman and some from oss and some from factory-python that would break things? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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15.4 Beta - cancelling "zypper se" with [ctrl + c] SEGFAULTS ??
by David C. Rankin 16 May '22

16 May '22

All, This was unexpected (to me), but may be normal. Canceling "zypper se" with [ctrl + c] results in a Segmentation Fault. E.g. $ zse octabe ^C^CSegmentation fault (I meant to type octave, but had a typo so I canceled the search) Shouldn't the interrupt handler in zypper handle this in a more graceful way? The 'zse' alias for users is: alias zse='sudo zypper se -s' (not sure whether that would make any difference, but included anyway) -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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15.4 Beta - What package provides Gtk+3 File Chooser for Firefox?
by David C. Rankin 15 May '22

15 May '22

All, Strange deal, Firefox on 15.4 Beta 91.9 (whatever comes with it) can not download ("save link") files. It doesn't matter if it is set to download all to "~/Downloads" or set to "Always ask" for a download location. Clicking the "save as" link in the context menu doesn't work. So much so, I just have to copy the link and use wget. (which gets old quick with at large number of files). Since the only desktops I loaded were icewm (with the install) and then KDE3 and fluxbox, my guess is there is an unidentified dependency that provides the dialog and makes the download work. (that's a guess) Anybody have any insight into what package is needed or why this may be happening? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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had thought 15.4 was rc in end of april 2022 already, today I read lck post on factory
by cagsm 15 May '22

15 May '22

Users, was wondering when comparing opensuse roadmap article on opensuse wiki <https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Roadmap> with todays lck post on factory list <https://lists.opensuse.org/archives/list/factory@lists.opensuse.org/thread/…> that they are still > Waiting for RC build of Leap 15.4 goldmaster code submission was yesterday or something. ty

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15.4 Beta - libreoffice-calc opens maximized, crashes when maximize removed, writer - okay
by David C. Rankin 15 May '22

15 May '22

All, Fresh install of 15.4 Beta and libreoffice. All apps, writer, calc, etc.. open full-screen on first run. Writer can be un-maximized (restored) without any issue, but attempting to restore calc crashes. The crash occurs regardless of whether you use the restore button (top-right titlebar next to close) or use the window menu (top-left titlebar and uncheck the "maximize" options) Before I write a bug on it, can somebody else confirm the behavior? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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15.4 Beta - /dev/sda and /dev/sdb swap drives (drive persistence problem)
by David C. Rankin 14 May '22

14 May '22

All, Looking for help or suggestions on this one. I have run 2 drives in my laptop for 4+ years. Drive persistence has never been an issue. Regardless of whether sda was Windows and sdb opensuse or sda Arch and sdb opensuse. However, after an install of 15.4 Beta to /dev/sda with 15.0 still in /dev/sdb, the drives swap on rebooting 15.4. This is really, really weird. I install 15.4 on /dev/sda and then after reboot, 15.4 pops up mounted on /dev/sdb and 15.0 has been swapped to /dev/sda. The system doesn't care as all drive ID is by uuid for the system, but for short mount scripts I have that use sda/sdb, I'm having to rewrite those to use uuid as well. I've never had a BIOS Boot partition on anything other than 15.4 before, so I don't know if that contributes (I can see why it would). Is there anything anyone can think of that would make 15.4 more prone to cause drive label persistence problems more than any release before? While the 15.4 install didn't modify the 15.0 on sdb, it did include a chainload for it in grub installed for 15.4. What makes little sense is after running with swapped drives and a shutdown, the drives will pop up in the right order on power-on (but not always). Any body have any idea on this one? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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Dell Precision 7560 With Tumbleweed
by Sean Marlow 13 May '22

13 May '22

Hi, I have a Dell Precision 7560 machine that is running Tumbleweed. It has an Nvidia GPU but I've had no luck getting drivers to load. Curious if anyone else has a similar machine and has found a solution here. I've tried both the Nvidia proprietary drivers and also nouveau both with no luck. Initally I had the system setup using secure boot. When the drivers installed they were not creating the MOK keypair and thus on reboot there's no way to add the keypair to the MOK database. Since then I've disabled secure boot and tried reinstalling both drivers (separately) and still the drivers do load at boot. Any ideas how to get the drivers to load. For now I have an unusable GPU and thus an unusable HDMI port. I have already changed the boot mode to (slow) to load all drivers. This was required to get the openSUSE installer to boot. And I'm following the steps according to [1]. [1] https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:NVIDIA_drivers Thanks, Sean

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15.4 install to 2nd Drive - How to Insure YAST does NOT mess with Windows on /dev/sda?
by David C. Rankin 12 May '22

12 May '22

All, This really asks -- what is the default behavior for YAST if it sees Windows on sda with os_prober? I do NOT want YAST to touch the window drive, I don't want the boot sector modified, I don't want grub put there, I don't want chainloaded options for dual-boot, etc... With either 423 or 15.0 I have YAST think it was okay to modify the windows install and put grub there with options to chainload windows (which was hell finding out how to restore the boot loader on Windows (I don't want to be thrown into that briar-patch again -- ouch) So if I'm installing to sdb, and windows is sda, what do I need to do to tell YAST not to touch sda? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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Perl modules install with RPM versus CPAN
by Bill Merriam 12 May '22

12 May '22

When something I am installing requires a list of perl modules I have to figure out how to install them. I first have to search the rpm repositories for the module. If the module is available in rpm repositories I can use zypper to install it. Other times I have to use CPAN to install it. Does anyone know of a script that will install a list of modules by searching for it and installing from the necessary location? Bill

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HELP please
by Stevens 12 May '22

12 May '22

System: Ryzen 7 2700X, 32GB RAM, GTX-1060 w/3GB, KDE Plasma 3.12.8, Kernel 4.12.14 I have a GP106 sound device (actually, I have a video card which has HDMI output) and I assume the GP106 is the way to send audio via the HDMI. Whatever the case may be, my problem is that some time earlier this year the $#@!& system started defaulting to HDMI-2 instead of HDMI-1, which kills the sound to my speakers. I can go to Configure Desktop in the Settings menu, Audio Volume, Advanced and change the device profile from Digital Stereo (HDMI2) to Digital Stereo (HDMI1) and it starts working and will until the desktop changes, then it changes back to HDMI2 profile. I cannot find where the default profile is stored and there is no option to apply the change when I make it. I have spent a lot of time looking and now I am down to asking for help. Any ideas on how to fix it? Thanks in advance. Fred

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NEW 15.4 Beta - Why is GCC 7.5 so OLD?
by David C. Rankin 12 May '22

12 May '22

All, Installed 15.4 beta and was surprised to find gcc at --version 7.5 (gcc 12.0 is current), 8.3 came on my RaspberryPi 3B+ a couple of years ago. The problem is this, 15.0 has 7.2, barely has full C++17 support, C++20 is current and 23 is just around the corner. There is virtually no C++20 support in the gcc 7 release: https://gcc.gnu.org/projects/cxx-status.html Before I installed 15.4, I browsed the repo and there was gcc-7, 8, 9, 10 and 11 available, but Yast during 15.4 install only shows 7.5 and does not show any alternative versions. I really do not want to have two differing versions of gcc installed (no good comes from that), but don't see getting much mileage out of gcc 7.5 when C++20 is needed. Any chance gcc will get an update before the 15.4 release (gcc 11 is fine, no need to jump on the bleeding edge of 12). If not, is there a safe way to have a non-conflicting gcc install generally available in a 15.4 install? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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15.3 KDE network manager -- no persistent IPv6 address
by James Knott 11 May '22

11 May '22

I run OpenSUSE 15.3 on a notebook computer, with network manager for configuring IP. One thing I've noticed is there do not appear to be any persistent IPv6 addresses. Normally, with SLAAC, there is 1 persistent address, based on either the MAC address or a random number. There can then be up to 7 privacy addresses, depending on how long the computer has been running. Without a persistent address, DNS can't be used to reach it. Is it possible to enable a persistent address with the network manager? tnx jk

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vncserver or: how to make a useful tool useless
by Peter Suetterlin 09 May '22

09 May '22

Hi, I have a script that starts a vncserver session on a remote machine, sets up a ssh port redirect and connects to that with vncviewer. It no longer works :( (on Tumbleweed) The reason I found is speedy:~% rpm -q --changelog xorg-x11-Xvnc * Thu Feb 17 2022 Stefan Dirsch <sndirsch(a)suse.com> - n_vncserver.patch * fix location of Xsession script - vncserver usage has radically changed; please check this: https://github.com/TigerVNC/tigervnc/blob/master/unix/vncserver/HOWTO.md In short, instead of creating sessions on the fly, everything has to be pre-defined, restricted to *one* session per user, and launched via systemctl. Of course only as root..... Sorry, but I find this "improvement" a complete desaster in userfriendliness :(((

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Unhappy computer
by Marc Chamberlin 03 May '22

03 May '22

Hello - I have an OpenSuSE x64 15.3 system that has become unhappy about a 4Tb disk drive. When I start up the system, a "start job" with no time limit, is automatically started (I kinda suspect it is actually running fsck but I have no way to find out and the message I do see is pretty useless. Is there a way to find out what this "start job" is actually running? ). I let it run for 5 days before I found it had stopped (crashed perhaps?) So this morning I restarted the computer again and once again this "start job" started and has now been running for a few hours. So my question is, what is a reasonable amount of time to let this run? Can it be bypassed? Should I simply considered the drive is irreparable? I don't know what is a reasonable amount of time since I have never seen fsck take so long. But I have also seen fsck do what I almost call a miracle and restore drives completely after a disk crash... So not sure what I should do at this point and if it is indeed fsck that is running I would like it to repair the drive if it can.. Thanks for any advice... Marc -- *"The Truth is out there" - Spooky* *_ _ . . . . . . _ _ . _ _ _ _ . . . . _ . . . . _ _ . _ _ _ . . . . _ _ . _ . . _ . _ _ _ _ . _ . _ . _ . _ . * Computers: the final frontier. These are the voyages of the user Marc. His mission: to explore strange new hardware. To seek out new software and new applications. To boldly go where no Marc has gone before! (/This email is digitally signed and the OpenPGP electronic signature is added as an attachment. If you know how, you can use my public key to prove this email indeed came from me and has not been modified in transit. My public key, which can be used for sending encrypted email to me also, can be found at - https://keys.openpgp.org/search?q=marc@marcchamberlin.com or just ask me for it and I will send it to you as an attachment. If you don't understand all this geek speak, no worries, just ignore this explanation and ignore the OpenPGP signature key attached to this email (it will look like gibberish if you open it) and/or ask me to explain it further if you like./)

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External USB disks not recognized - Leap 15.3
by Per Inge Oestmoen 29 Apr '22

29 Apr '22

Hello. I use openSUSE Leap 15.3. Trouble is, when I attach USB sticks from 16-128 GB there are no problems. They are mounted and read immediately upon being attached. When I attach large external USB disks, there is a different story. The disks most often do not show up. Sometimes they do, but most times I must read the disks (formatted with EXT4, FAT32 and EXFAT) on a Mac laptop in order to access them. Which, admittedly, makes me ashamed. The question is why this happens. To elucidate the problem, I have typed fdisk -l and dmesg, and the results are in the links below. I shall be extremely thankful if you can have a look at these outputs and see if you can spot the source of my problem. If these files do not provide a clue, please tell me what commands I should try next. In both cases, an external disk was attached. However, the system failed to see it. The fdisk -l output: http://www.coldsiberia.net/technics/fdisk_l_21042022.txt The dmesg output: http://www.coldsiberia.net/technics/dmesg_21042022.txt Sincerely, Per Inge Oestmoen, Norway

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TW: mutt no longer showing special characters
by Peter Suetterlin 26 Apr '22

26 Apr '22

Hi list, Since one of the latest updates of my TW computers(*) mutt (running in XTerm, but it's the same in konsole) no longer is showing special characters (like accented ones). Are others seeing that, too? Any hints what to look for? I didn't change any of my settings... (*) one is running TW20220421/mutt 2.2.3, the other one TW20220419/mutt 2.1.5 With LANG=en_GB.UTF-8 I get, e.g., "ZurÃ¼ck", LANG=en_DE.UTF-8 displays it as two questionmarks, "Zur??ck"

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on 15.4: any new fancy additional or differings repos?
by cagsm 25 Apr '22

25 Apr '22

I remember making the switch from 15.2 to 15.3, it was very messy in the early days in the rc stages or something, or at least me, I was not aware that there were those brand new backports and sle-update repos coming in additionally to those standard repos ever since until 15.2 days. so here is the question, are we getting another set of new additional or completely differing repo addresses on 15.4? anything to be aware of? where can one find such elementary changes and stuff if such stuff happens except for going for a clean install on clean new hardware and first observing and looking through all sorts of things there, and then manually "backporting" such stuff as addl repo urls to other existing but aged opensuse installs? ty.

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[oS-en] patch:openSUSE-SLE-15.3-2022-1273-1.noarch conflicts with 'libSDL-devel.x86_64
by Carlos E. R. 23 Apr '22

23 Apr '22

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 #### YaST2 conflicts list - generated 2022-04-22 22:07:07 #### the to be installed patch:openSUSE-SLE-15.3-2022-1273-1.noarch conflicts with 'libSDL-devel.x86_64 < 1.2.15-150000.3.19.1' provided by the installed libSDL-devel-1.2.15-lp153.93.2.x86_64 [ ] Following actions will be done: install libSDL-devel-1.2.15-150000.3.19.1.x86_64 from vendor SUSE LLC <https://www.suse.com/> replacing libSDL-devel-1.2.15-lp153.93.2.x86_64 from vendor obs://build.opensuse.org/games install libSDL-1_2-0-1.2.15-150000.3.19.1.x86_64 from vendor SUSE LLC <https://www.suse.com/> replacing libSDL-1_2-0-1.2.15-lp153.97.1.x86_64 from vendor obs://build.opensuse.org/games [ ] do not install patch:openSUSE-SLE-15.3-2022-1273-1.noarch #### YaST2 conflicts list END ### What is this, in plain language? - -- Cheers Carlos E. R. (from 15.3 x86_64 at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iHoEARECADoWIQQZEb51mJKK1KpcU/W1MxgcbY1H1QUCYmMPCRwccm9iaW4ubGlz dGFzQHRlbGVmb25pY2EubmV0AAoJELUzGBxtjUfVw9IAn3Uk2Dkxu8hXs4KVbFjI WYRO8ZTaAJ44PBYGjGKSpellmXUkQryvnhsPzw== =i3EC -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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autofs mounts don't show symlinks
by Marc Chamberlin 21 Apr '22

21 Apr '22

Hi - If I mount a filesystem, from a different computer system on my local network, on my laptop using autofs (automount actually), where samba exported cifs shares from the other remote system, I run into a snag. How do I get ls -al or the abbreviated for - ll to show me both a link name and the file/dir being pointed at, in the same way of using ls -al or ll on a local file system shows me symlinks? For example if I use ll (or ls -al) to show me the contents of directory on my laptop - marcslaptop:/srv/bacula #ll total 32 drw-rw-r-- 2 root bacula 4096 Aug 16 2020 etc_bacula5.2 drw-rw-r-- 2 root bacula 4096 Aug 16 2020 etc_bacula7.4 drw-rw-r-- 2 root bacula 4096 Jun 23 2021 etc_bacula9.0.3 drw-rw-r-- 2 root bacula 4096 Apr 4 16:41 etc_bacula9.6.6 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root bacula 15 Apr 3 18:21 etc_SYMLINK-> etc_bacula9.6.6 drw-rw-r-- 2 root bacula 4096 Apr 4 16:43 etc_systemd_system lrwxrwxrwx 1 root bacula 56 Aug 16 2020 README-> /home/marc/Documents/System Notes/Linux/Bacula_notes.txt lrwxrwxrwx 1 root bacula 41 Apr 3 20:11 usr_lib_systemd_system_bacula-fd.service_SYMLINK-> /usr/lib/systemd/system/bacula-fd.service drw-rw-r-- 2 root bacula 4096 Apr 4 16:44 usr_lib_tmpfiles.d drw-rw-r-- 2 root bacula 4096 Apr 3 20:26 usr_sbin lrwxrwxrwx 1 root bacula 17 Oct 4 2020 var_spool_bacula_SYMLINK-> /var/spool/bacula drw-rw-r-- 2 root bacula 4096 Aug 16 2020 working_bacula5.0 Note that all the entries in this directory, that are symlinks, the ll or ls -al commands show both the name of the symlink and the path that the symlink follows to the target of the symlink. I use autofs to mount various samba (cifs) file systems under /mnt/samba/SuSE/<system name>/<remote file system> My autofs automounter maps, on my laptop, look something like this for mounting shares from a remote system named bigbang - rootdir -fstype=cifs,rw,dir_mode=0777,file_mode=0777,credentials=/etc/smb.auth ://bigbang/rootdir srv -fstype=cifs,rw,dir_mode=0777,file_mode=0777,credentials=/etc/smb.auth ://bigbang/srv But if I show this same directory, by following an automount to another system (named bigbang here) and then follow an automount path back to my laptop to show the above /srv/bacula directory, I get the following display that does not show the symlinked paths - marcslaptop:/srv/bacula #ll /mnt/samba/SuSE/bigbang/rootdir/mnt/samba/SuSE/marcslaptop/srv/bacula total 20 drwxrwxrwx 2 root root 0 Aug 16 2020 etc_bacula5.2 drwxrwxrwx 2 root root 0 Aug 16 2020 etc_bacula7.4 drwxrwxrwx 2 root root 0 Jun 23 2021 etc_bacula9.0.3 drwxrwxrwx 2 root root 0 Apr 4 16:41 etc_bacula9.6.6 drwxrwxrwx 2 root root 0 Apr 4 16:41 etc_SYMLINK drwxrwxrwx 2 root root 0 Apr 4 16:43 etc_systemd_system -rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13616 Mar 1 20:52 README -rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 1411 Apr 3 21:33 usr_lib_systemd_system_bacula-fd.service_SYMLINK drwxrwxrwx 2 root root 0 Apr 4 16:44 usr_lib_tmpfiles.d drwxrwxrwx 2 root root 0 Apr 3 20:26 usr_sbin drwxrwxrwx 2 root root 0 Apr 5 02:20 var_spool_bacula_SYMLINK drwxrwxrwx 2 root root 0 Aug 16 2020 working_bacula5.0 I used this example to somewhat dramatically illustrate the problem, but following a single automount point and displaying a remote directory also does not show symlink paths. Where I am really having problems is when I use Beyond Compare to compare files and directories on both a local filesystem and a remote filesystem accessed via an automount point. It is critical to know when I am working with a symlink on a remote filesystem, otherwise Beyond Compare is blind to them and can easily clobber and ruin a remote system by overwriting a symlink. AFAIK Beyond Compare is being blinded by the automount system dropping the symlink information. Hope I have been clear and hopefully some nice guru with have a magic incantation I can use to solve this issue. Google has not been my friend on this issue! Thanks as always in advance for helping me... Marc... -- *"The Truth is out there" - Spooky* *_ _ . . . . . . _ _ . _ _ _ _ . . . . _ . . . . _ _ . _ _ _ . . . . _ _ . _ . . _ . _ _ _ _ . _ . _ . _ . _ . * Computers: the final frontier. These are the voyages of the user Marc. His mission: to explore strange new hardware. To seek out new software and new applications. To boldly go where no Marc has gone before! (/This email is digitally signed and the OpenPGP electronic signature is added as an attachment. If you know how, you can use my public key to prove this email indeed came from me and has not been modified in transit. My public key, which can be used for sending encrypted email to me also, can be found at - https://keys.openpgp.org/search?q=marc@marcchamberlin.com or just ask me for it and I will send it to you as an attachment. If you don't understand all this geek speak, no worries, just ignore this explanation and ignore the OpenPGP signature key attached to this email (it will look like gibberish if you open it) and/or ask me to explain it further if you like./)

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[oS-EN] firewalld question
by Carlos E. R. 20 Apr '22

20 Apr '22

Hi, I get these messages in the firewall log, using firewalld: 2022-04-20T22:18:58.849017+02:00 Elesar kernel: [13052.961056] FINAL_REJECT: IN=eth0 OUT= MAC=01:00:5e:00:00:01:b0:a7:b9:ae:05:3c:08:00 SRC=192.168.1.1 DST=224.0.0.1 LEN=36 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=1 ID=0 DF PROTO=2 They come from the router. proto=2 means IGMP. What do I have to do, using the firewall-config application, to allow those packages? Would it be to add protocol "igmp" in the protocol tab? It seems to work, but I don't know if that is the correct method. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from Elesar, using openSUSE Leap 15.3)

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[oS-EN] boot delay
by Carlos E. R. 20 Apr '22

20 Apr '22

Hi, I noticed, using: systemd-analyze plot > bootup.svg eog bootup.svg that display-manager.service waits for purge-kernels.service to complete. Why is this done? :-? -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from Elesar, using openSUSE Leap 15.3)

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leap 15.4, only having openssh 8.4? post quantum key exchange from 8.9 / 9.0 ?
by cagsm 19 Apr '22

19 Apr '22

Users list, leap 15.4, only having openssh 8.4? according to download files list at: <http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/leap/15.4/repo/oss/x86_64/> I only see openssh 8.4 named packages. Is there backport of post-quantum key exchange support introduced in openssh 8.9 and finalized in openssh 9.0 included? <https://www.openssh.com/txt/release-9.0> i regard these security features very important. isnt openssh 8.4 from like sept 2020? <https://www.openssh.com/txt/release-8.4> dwelling on the windows platform here, just recently the putty project added this new post-quantum key exchange to their client code base as well. <https://git.tartarus.org/?p=simon/putty.git;a=commit;h=faf1601a5549eda9298f…> can I use this on new leap releases or will these be backported to current and supported leap and other suse products? is it not important to the security of suse users? ty

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is it possible to remove only non-existing from ./cache/thumbnails?
by Daniel Bauer 19 Apr '22

19 Apr '22

Hello, my ~/.cache/thumbnails contains uncountable old files for images that do not exist anymore, so they are there "for nothing". I know I can delete those folders and they will be rebuilt, but rebuilding will take some time, so I don't want that. Is there a way to clean-up those directories, only delete the thumbnails for files that do not exist anymore? Didn't find anything useful in big brother... Do you know a smart solution? have a nice day! Daniel -- Daniel Bauer photographer Basel Málaga https://www.patreon.com/danielbauer https://www.daniel-bauer.com

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openssh 9.0 or openssh (ssh) with ntru (post quantum prime) support?
by cagsm 19 Apr '22

19 Apr '22

list, does current opensuse releases support NTRU prime for ssh (openssh, tinyssh) just yet? <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NTRU#cite_note-18> ty

2 2

os 15.3 won't boot into KDE after regular update
by Gustav Degreef 19 Apr '22

19 Apr '22

Hello, I need some help in how to approach this problem. The oot process ends with a black screen with a mouse cursor. ESC brings me to the terminal screen which shows the boot hung at "Started Locale Service (OK). I can not get any other terminal (Ctrl+F1-F12). If I include "nomodeset" by editing the grub boot menu item, I can get a boot prompt and login as root. I have network access but "startx" produces the same dark scren with a cursor which I can move, but no desktop. Running opensuse 15.3 (previously upgraded from 15.2 and prior to that 15.1). Running only kde, kernel and other major software from the regular opensuse repos. The recnt upgrade included the 5.3.18-150300.59.63-default kernel. I tried removing the .local directory for my user, but no help. I have Intel graphics (no NVidia or AMD) on this Lenovo T440 laptop. How to approach fixing this? Any suggestions appreciated. Thanks, Gustav

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Can't install OpenVPN 2.5.6 on Leap 15.3
by James Knott 18 Apr '22

18 Apr '22

I'm trying to install OpenVPN from https://software.opensuse.org/package/openvpn?locale=en Whether I use one click or expert download, I get an error about initializing the repository. https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/SUSE:/SLE-15-SP1:/GA/pool/ I have tried 2 different links for this and get the same error on both. Suggestions? tnx jk

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No eth0 connection after soundcard config in Yast...
by Daniel Bauer 17 Apr '22

17 Apr '22

Hello, something strange happened on my OS 15.3 with KDE, after posting this here: > - during the bot messages I get > snd-hda-intel ... cannot probe codec, giving up Carlos said: > You just need to configure sound with Yast. There will be an old entry which you have to delete, and let it add automatically the new one. So I happily went to Yast, Hardware, Audio... - I see two sound cards, Intel and Nvidia - I click on "Bearbeiten" on Intel (setup?) and chose "fast" -> sound gets switched of - I deleted both (clicked on delete, but nothing happened), said ok, rebooted, had sound again But: No network, no internet. After changing in Yast from networkmanager to wicked and then back again, I can now access WiFi, but ethernet isn't here (it doesn't show in Networkmanager). lspci -k gives: 04:00.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation Ethernet Controller I225-V (rev 03) Subsystem: Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd Device e000 Kernel modules: igc 05:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Wi-Fi 6 AX200 (rev 1a) Subsystem: Intel Corporation Wi-Fi 6 AX200NGW Kernel driver in use: iwlwifi Kernel modules: iwlwifi How can I make my ethernet/eth0 work again? Thanks for help... Daniel -- Daniel Bauer photographer Basel Málaga https://www.patreon.com/danielbauer https://www.daniel-bauer.com

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Best way to move to a new PC
by Daniel Bauer 15 Apr '22

15 Apr '22

Hello, I just ordered a new computer and (hopefully) in a week I will (have to) install it. It will replace my current machine, which means that I need everything installed just the same on the new machine. There are many things that have my own settings (apache modules, sql databases, php setings... etc.), additional programs, changed versions, and on my last new install, years ago, I just did those things that I remembered manually, copied individual files, found out missing things weeks later... Is there a more intelligent, easier way to "clone" my current machine to the new one? There are several hardware differences, i9 instead of i7 processor, 6 instead of 4 disks, more memory, new graphics card, no DVD anymore, so just plugging in my system SDD into the new machine seems to be no option :-( One of my problems is that actually I don't remember all the changes I did during all those years, but I know, that some of them are necessary and at the time caused me a lot o headaches... I'd love to avoid that this time. Any hints about a procedure that makes sense and helps? (Oh: in a manner a simple user can understand, please). Thanks, Daniel (OpenSuse 15.3 with KDE) -- Daniel Bauer photographer Basel Málaga https://www.patreon.com/danielbauer https://www.daniel-bauer.com

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TW: no more "Have a lot of fun" ... ?
by Per Jessen 15 Apr '22

15 Apr '22

After 'dup'ing my TW system yesterday, I logged in this morning over ssh, and had this weird feeling I was missing something. After some more trials, I spotted it - the MOTD "Have a lot of fun" is gone ? In earlier times, it was in /etc/motd, which was part of 'openSUSE-release', but it's no longer there. I see the text in '/usr/lib/motd.d/welcome' though. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (15.5°C)

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Tumbleweed update
by Roger Oberholtzer 14 Apr '22

14 Apr '22

I have a Tumbleweed system that was last updated Oct 2019. I am running Trac (https://trac.edgewall.org/), which has been slow to move to Python 3 - and it is just about there now. I did not want to chance messing up the Python 2 setup that has been working fine. So, I abstained from updating until the dust settled. Given the amount of time that has passed, is it reasonable to expect that an update in the near future would work? I worry about things like the /usr/lib64 move. And probably other things that have been rather big. All done at once. Has anyone else left such a big time between Tumbleweed updates? I do not generally do that with my other Tumbleweed systems. This was a special case. I am using this system in production. So I know, do a backup. Everything of interest is on a separate (from the OS) RAID volume. I might disconnect that during the update. I have generally been lucky. I am running snapper. Aside from a couple small installs of some packages, thee main snapshot is from Oct 2019. I do not want it to be removed. It is rather old. I guess I need to check the rules for this to be sure it won't be removed as part of a cleanup. Anything else to think of? -- Roger Oberholtzer

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Tumbleweed update
by Roger Oberholtzer 14 Apr '22

14 Apr '22

I have a Tumbleweed system that was last updated Oct 2019. I am running Trac (https://trac.edgewall.org/), which has been slow to move to Python 3 - and it is just about there now. I did not want to chance messing up the Python 2 setup that has been working fine. So, I abstained from updating until the dust settled. Given the amount of time that has passed, is it reasonable to expect that an update in the near future would work? I worry about things like the /usr/lib64 move. And probably other things that have been rather big. All done at once. Has anyone else left such a big time between Tumbleweed updates? I do not generally do that with my other Tumbleweed systems. This was a special case. I am using this system in production. So I know, do a backup. Everything of interest is on a separate (from the OS) RAID volume. I might disconnect that during the update. I have generally been lucky. I am running snapper. Aside from a couple small installs of some packages, thee main snapshot is from Oct 2019. I do not want it to be removed. It is rather old. I guess I need to check the rules for this to be sure it won't be removed as part of a cleanup. Anything else to think of? -- Roger Oberholtzer

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[a little OT] old cal sunday-first-day behavior
by David T-G 13 Apr '22

13 Apr '22

Hi, all -- I just found on my LEAP 15.{1,2} boxes that cal(1) defaults to Monday as the first day of the week. While this can be changed with -s (Sunday), it is inconvenient. There is also a -m (Monday) flag to set the current behavior. Without getting into flame wars of which is "right", does anyone know of an environment variable that will set Sunday as the default, or (short of writing a wrapper, which is stupid) is there another way to accomplish the original behavior, or is there an alternate RPM install that sets it, or ... do I just have to rebuild from scratch? TIA :-D -- David T-G See http://justpickone.org/davidtg/email/ See http://justpickone.org/davidtg/tofu.txt

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Best place to ask for help with current mailing list account?
by -pj 13 Apr '22

13 Apr '22

Hi, this past week on Friday I sent a message to support(a)lists.opensuse.org regarding an issue I am having with my mailing list account after I removed my OpenID from within (which I should not have done). I have not heard a response back as of yet. So I decided to ask here as to the best place to resend the message if possible. I would prefer not to create yet another account on openSUSE mailing lists with yet another username. After reading Per Jessens mailing Re: List switched to "reject posts from non-subscribers" I was looking over my mailing list account etc.... Thanks for all your work with openSUSE also.

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Re: how to prevent /etc/profile.d/ files from returning
by David T-G 13 Apr '22

13 Apr '22

Hi, all! My, how time flies ... It's been a year since I last wrestled with this! ...and then davidtg-robot(a)justpickone.org said... % % ...and then L A Walsh said... % % % % On 2021/03/14 18:34, David T-G wrote: % % >Is there any way to keep them from being dropped again so that I don't % % >have to deal with this over and over? *sigh* % ... % % % % So...I set the immutable bit on the problematic files. % % So far, that's kept them intact. % [snip] % ... % % Time to go learn something :-) So I went and learned and played and eventually played davidtg@jpo:~> lsattr /etc/profile.d/ls.bash ----i-------------- /etc/profile.d/ls.bash with some of these keep-coming-back files. They were empty and stayed that way; yay. Except that I actually stood at the keyboard in the closet and paid attention to updates one day and found that various ones threw failures because they couldn't tweak these files. Dang it! No, I don't want failing updates; it's hard enough to make sure things stay current. I guess we're back to adding ls.bash.off that figures out what's in the original file and undoes it as part of the login process *sigh* There really oughta be a better way. Maybe in Leap 16, I heard in the old thread ... Have a great day! :-D -- David T-G See http://justpickone.org/davidtg/email/ See http://justpickone.org/davidtg/tofu.txt

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how to read reiserfs on 15.3? What to do with "old" backups?
by Daniel Bauer 08 Apr '22

08 Apr '22

I know reiserfs was removed from 15.3. Still I have many TB external disks with Reiserfs (encrypted). I can't read them right now. First question: How can I read those backups? libreiserfscore0 and reiserfs are installed, but plugging such a disk leads to a message "unknown file system". What else do I need to install? Second question: What do I do with those encrypted Reiserfs backups? Do I really have to copy all that tremendous amount of data to other disks, newly format the original one, and copy back? (I have a laptop with 15.2 where I still can read them) Is there another way? Copying all those TB would take me about a week, I guess... Thanks for any ideas. Daniel -- Daniel Bauer photographer Basel Málaga https://www.patreon.com/danielbauer https://www.daniel-bauer.com

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KWallet & PAM?
by James Knott 07 Apr '22

07 Apr '22

I have KWallet storing some passwords and every time it's called, I have to enter the wallet password. I believe that the login password can be used automatically, using PAM. How is this set up? I'm running Leap 15.3 & KDE. tnx jk

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is open-suse 15.1 firefox 78.7 really outdated?
by Daniel Bauer 07 Apr '22

07 Apr '22

Using Firefox 78.7.0esr (64 bit) on Opensuse 15.1 on several websites (tumblr, a bank, some others) I get a message like "You are using an unsupported browser and things might not work as intended. Please make sure you're using the latest version of Chrome, Firefox, Safari, or Edge." Are the programmers of those sites stupid or is my OS 15.1 so very outdated? (I restrain from updating/upgrading because of the huge amount of work that a new install brings with it [direct upgrades haven't worked for me in the past, left a lot of confusion in /home in app properties of changed versions etc., and because of some missing programs in the new versions, like support for my many reiserfs backup disks) -- Daniel Bauer photographer Basel Málaga https://www.patreon.com/danielbauer https://www.daniel-bauer.com

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[oS-en] Very slow update download.
by Carlos E. R. 31 Mar '22

31 Mar '22

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 200K/S, of the kernel. 2022-03-31 19:36:02 <1> Elesar(20671) [zypp-core] PathInfo.cc(hardlinkCopy):916 hardlinkCopy /var/tmp/AP_0xbwLBVf/noarch/firewall-macros-0.9.3-150300.3.3.1.noarch.rpm -> /var/cache/zypp/packages/repo-sle-update/noarch/firewall-macros-0.9.3-150300.3.3.1.noarch.rpm 2022-03-31 19:36:02 <1> Elesar(20671) [zypp::fetcher++] MediaSetAccess.cc(releaseFile):92 Going to release file ./noarch/firewall-macros-0.9.3-150300.3.3.1.noarch.rpm from media number 1 2022-03-31 19:36:02 <1> Elesar(20671) [zypp-core] PathInfo.cc(unlink):706 unlink /var/tmp/AP_0xbwLBVf/noarch/firewall-macros-0.9.3-150300.3.3.1.noarch.rpm 2022-03-31 19:36:02 <1> Elesar(20671) [Progress++] progressdata.cc(report):70 {#104|} START 2022-03-31 19:36:02 <1> Elesar(20671) [Progress++] progressdata.cc(report):89 {#104|} END 2022-03-31 19:36:02 <1> Elesar(20671) [zypp::media] RepoProvideFile.cc(provideFile):307 provideFile at /var/cache/zypp/packages/repo-sle-update/noarch/firewall-macros-0.9.3-150300.3.3.1.noarch.rpm 2022-03-31 19:36:02 <1> Elesar(20671) [Ruby] modules/PackageCallbacks.rb(DoneProvide):245 DoneProvide: 0, , firewall-macros 2022-03-31 19:36:02 <2> Elesar(20671) [Ruby] modules/PackageCallbacks.rb(DoneProvide):273 DoneProvide: unknown error '0' 2022-03-31 19:36:02 <1> Elesar(20671) [zypp] PackageProvider.cc(providePackage):513 provided Package (114846)firewall-macros-0.9.3-150300.3.3.1.noarch(repo-sle-update) at /var/cache/zypp/packages/repo-sle-update/noarch/firewall-macros-0.9.3-150300.3.3.1.noarch.rpm 2022-03-31 19:36:02 <1> Elesar(20671) [zypp] PackageProvider.cc(providePackage):412 provide Package (118443)kernel-firmware-20210208-150300.4.7.1.noarch(repo-sle-update) 2022-03-31 19:36:02 <1> Elesar(20671) [zypp++] DeltaCandidates.cc(deltaRpms):82 package: (118443)kernel-firmware-20210208-150300.4.7.1.noarch(repo-sle-update) 2022-03-31 19:36:02 <1> Elesar(20671) [zypp::media] RepoProvideFile.cc(provideFile):241 [1]./noarch/kernel-firmware-20210208-150300.4.7.1.noarch.rpm{243.3 MiB|sha256-d846a4a491b5f086ad331e8509681819bc080a9564ac18925218a9a5e5234638|} 2022-03-31 19:36:02 <1> Elesar(20671) [zypp::fetcher++] Fetcher.cc(addCachePath):331 Adding fetcher cache: '/var/cache/zypp/packages/repo-sle-update'. 2022-03-31 19:36:02 <1> Elesar(20671) [zypp::media] RepoProvideFile.cc(provideFile):260 Added cache path /var/cache/zypp/packages/repo-sle-update 2022-03-31 19:36:02 <1> Elesar(20671) [zypp::media] RepoProvideFile.cc(provideFile):294 Providing file of repo 'repo-sle-update' fromhttp://download.opensuse.org/update/leap/15.3/sle/ 2022-03-31 19:36:02 <1> Elesar(20671) [zypp::media++] RepoProvideFile.cc(setVerifierForRepo):203 No media verifier for repo 'repo-sle-update' media.1/media does not exist in '/var/cache/zypp/raw/repo-sle-update' 2022-03-31 19:36:02 <1> Elesar(20671) [zypp::fetcher] Fetcher.cc(downloadAndReadIndexList):705 No indexes to read. 2022-03-31 19:36:02 <1> Elesar(20671) [zypp::fetcher] Fetcher.cc(locateInCache):362 start fetcher with 1 cache directories. 2022-03-31 19:36:02 <1> Elesar(20671) [zypp::fetcher] Fetcher.cc(provideToDest):533 Not found in cache, retrieving... 2022-03-31 19:36:02 <1> Elesar(20671) [zypp::fetcher++] MediaSetAccess.cc(provide):278 Going to try to provide file ./noarch/kernel-firmware-20210208-150300.4.7.1.noarch.rpm from media number 1 2022-03-31 19:36:02 <1> Elesar(20671) [zypp::media++] MediaManager.cc(checkDesired):155 checkDesired(30): desired (cached) 2022-03-31 19:36:02 <1> Elesar(20671) [zypp::media++] MediaMultiCurl.cc(doGetFileCopy):1336 dest: /var/tmp/AP_0xbwLBVf/noarch/kernel-firmware-20210208-150300.4.7.1.noarch.rpm 2022-03-31 19:36:02 <1> Elesar(20671) [zypp::media++] MediaMultiCurl.cc(doGetFileCopy):1337 temp: /var/tmp/AP_0xbwLBVf/noarch/kernel-firmware-20210208-150300.4.7.1.noarch.rpm.new.zypp.6waHyf 2022-03-31 19:36:02 <1> Elesar(20671) [zypp::media++] MediaCurl.cc(doGetFileCopyFile):1177 ./noarch/kernel-firmware-20210208-150300.4.7.1.noarch.rpm 2022-03-31 19:36:02 <1> Elesar(20671) [zypp::media++] MediaCurl.cc(doGetFileCopyFile):1187 URL: http://download.opensuse.org/update/leap/15.3/sle/noarch/kernel-firmware-20… 2022-03-31 19:36:02 <1> Elesar(20671) [zypp::media++] MediaMultiCurl.cc(doGetFileCopy):1375 HTTP response: 200 2022-03-31 19:36:02 <5> Elesar(20671) [zypp-core] Exception.cc(log):186 MediaMultiCurl.cc(doGetFileCopy):1433 THROW: Multicurl enabled but not enough mirrors provided 2022-03-31 19:36:02 <1> Elesar(20671) [zypp::media++] MediaCurl.cc(doGetFileCopyFile):1177 ./noarch/kernel-firmware-20210208-150300.4.7.1.noarch.rpm 2022-03-31 19:36:02 <1> Elesar(20671) [zypp::media++] MediaCurl.cc(doGetFileCopyFile):1187 URL: http://download.opensuse.org/update/leap/15.3/sle/noarch/kernel-firmware-20… 2022-03-31 19:36:02 <1> Elesar(20671) [zypp-curl++] curlhelper.cc(log_redirects_curl):117 redirecting to Location: https://rsync.opensuse.org/update/leap/15.3/sle/noarch/kernel-firmware-2021… Now it is going at normal speeds. - -- Cheers Carlos E. 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Unplanned reboot fried sound card?
by Michael Fischer 30 Mar '22

30 Mar '22

Today I had the pleasure of my computer shutting down without warning. It came back up mostly fine, except that my sound card no longer seems to work. It is recognized in Yast, and thinks it is the primary card, yet the (amp, speakers) do not seem to get a signal from it. `aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/test.wav` or a video from a browser now send sound to a small builtin speaker on the computer. Is it possible to determine if the card itself is destroyed? Clearly yast, etc. still recognize it. OpenSuSe 15.2 $ hwinfo --sound 06: PCI 300.0: 0403 Audio device [Created at pci.386] Unique ID: svHJ.aI0zRHBQWr8 Parent ID: 1GTX.zL18kkxawk9 SysFS ID: /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.0/0000:03:00.0 SysFS BusID: 0000:03:00.0 Hardware Class: sound Model: "Creative SB1570 SB Audigy Fx" Vendor: pci 0x1102 "Creative Labs" Device: pci 0x0012 "Sound Core3D [Sound Blaster Recon3D / Z-Series]" SubVendor: pci 0x1102 "Creative Labs" SubDevice: pci 0x0010 "SB1570 SB Audigy Fx" Revision: 0x01 Driver: "snd_hda_intel" Driver Modules: "snd_hda_intel" Memory Range: 0x91104000-0x91107fff (rw,non-prefetchable) Memory Range: 0x91100000-0x91103fff (rw,non-prefetchable) IRQ: 16 (4676 events) Module Alias: "pci:v00001102d00000012sv00001102sd00000010bc04sc03i00" Driver Info #0: Driver Status: snd_hda_intel is active Driver Activation Cmd: "modprobe snd_hda_intel" Config Status: cfg=yes, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown Attached to: #21 (PCI bridge) Thanks. Michael -- Michael Fischer michael(a)visv.net

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thunderbird not forwarding messages with yahoo mail
by George from the tribe 30 Mar '22

30 Mar '22

Howdy, I have some email that comes in through a yahoo email account that I want to set up automatic forwarding to a different email account. Can't do that on yahoo anymore, as they removed that feature for free accounts. So I wanted to do that in thunderbird by setting up a filter that automatically forwards certain emails coming into that account. Problem is, when it tries to forward the emails, it tries to login to yahoo separately and something goes wrong... there is no problem with me manually forwarding all of those emails, but I can't get it to work on the automatic forward. It says that it fails to login, so I have to click that to acknowledge the failure, then it asks me for a new password, even though the old password works for regular email us. Any ideas? -- George Box: TW | Plasma 5 | AMD Ryzen 9 | 64 | 32GB Laptop: TW | Plasma 5 | Intel EVO | 64 | 32GB

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Need a new hard disk.
by Carlos E. R. 22 Mar '22

22 Mar '22

Hi, One of my 4TB disks in my miniserver is failing. Unrecoverable errors, says smartctl, and growing. I have disconnected it till I get a replacement. And here are my doubts. Looking at Seagate at my local supplier, 4 to 6 TB, I see a variety and higher prices than I remember. <https://www.pccomponentes.com/discos-duros/3-5-pulgadas/4-tb/5-tb/6-tb/hdd-…> Seagate Exos 7E8 3.5" 6TB SATA 3/SAS 258,69€ Seagate IronWolf NAS 6TB 3.5" SATA3 172,26€ Seagate IronWolf Pro NAS 3.5" 6TB SATA3 250,62€ Seagate SkyHawk 6TB 3.5" SATA3 (svlnc) 151,38€ Seagate Barracuda 3.5" 6TB SATA 3 144,84€ 24€/TB Seagate Exos 7E8 3.5" 4TB SATA3 199,87€ Seagate IronWolf NAS 4TB SATA3 104,05€ Seagate IronWolf Pro 4TB NAS 144,09€ Seagate SkyHawk 4TB 3.5" SATA3 (svlnc) 96,93€ Seagate BarraCuda 3.5" 4TB SATA3 81,53€ 20.3€/TB * I believe I have the last one (model ST4000DM000) - it is powered off, can't look details except on the logs. The 6TB version of such disk is quite more expensive per gigabyte. The questions is, what advantages or disadvantages has each family? It is confusing. (If you know of a link with a comparison of them, that would be wonderful ;-) ) Western Digital: WD Purple 3.5" 6TB SATA3, surveillance 150,91€ WD NAS Red 6TB SATA3 159,01€ Western Digital Blue 6TB 3.5" SATA3 167,06€ WD Red Plus 3.5" 6TB NAS SATA 3 172,19€ WD Purple 3.5" 6 TB SATA3, surveill. 190,49€ WD Purple 3.5" 6TB SATA 3, surveill. 191,83€ I guess I don't want a surveillance unit. A NAS unit? :-? -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.3 x86_64 at Telcontar)

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optional updates in Leap
by gumb 20 Mar '22

20 Mar '22

I see in YaST Online Update (Leap 15.3) currently three items in the Optional category with similar descriptions, e.g. openSUSE-SLE-15.3-2022-781 - Optional update for SUSE Package Hub This optional update provides the following changes: - Provide binaries for non x86_64 architectures directly to SUSE Package Hub. - There are no visible changes for the final user. - Affected source packages: MozillaThunderbird, enigmail References: MSC-303 (jira) : https://jira.suse.com/browse/MSC-303 --------- I don't really understand what the implication is here. I'm on x86_64, so is it suggesting that other non-x86_64 packages have been added that weren't there before, and there's some minor version numbering difference or something that forces my existing installed packages to see some kind of upgrade, even though it isn't a real upgrade? I don't know what to make of it otherwise. gumb

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Authorization in CUPS fails in google-chrome-stable
by Jos van Kan 20 Mar '22

20 Mar '22

Hello, For reasons that do not matter right now I moved from FF to GCS as my default browser. A day ago I ran into printer problems that I usually addres by use of CUPS. Much to my dismay I could not do any aignificant work because of lack of authorization. Ordinarily a popup appears to let you enter credentials but it did not. After a day of hairpulling and spelunking the net i chanced on a message of some good soul who wrote that he had the same problem with chromium and that switching to a different browser solved it. Much to my surprise he was right. I went back to FF and there it was: the popup for my credentials. There ought to be a law that this should not happen. :) FF rocks! I wonder what particular bug triggers this behavior in GCS. But in case you run into something similar here's this one more thing to try. Regards, Jos -- Jos van Kan registered Linux user #152704

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