openSUSE Users June 2022

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The future of OpenSUSE Leap (rant)
by Nicolas Kovacs 29 Jul '22

29 Jul '22

Hi, I'm the manager of a small IT firm with a focus on Linux and Open Source software. On my servers I'm running a mix of various RHEL clones like CentOS, Oracle Linux and Rocky Linux. On the desktop side, I've been using OpenSUSE Leap with KDE since version 15.0. Leap is powering all the desktop clients in our local school, and everybody (school staff, teachers, students) is very happy with it. I just finished polishing up my bone-headed post-install configuration script for Leap 15.4: https://gitlab.com/kikinovak/opensuse-lp154/-/blob/main/setup.sh And I just learned that SUSE will phase out Leap after the 15.5 release. So here's a few thoughts I want to share with the distribution maintainers. 1. Perennity anyone ? Duh ? 2. After the CentOS debacle in 2020, it looks like distribution maintainers love pissing off their userbase by pulling the rug from under their feet. Hint: we hate it. 3. Some official SUSE guy on Twitter who shall remain unnamed likes to explain on a regular basis that rolling releases are the future and folks who rely on releases are utterly clueless. As someone who tried to maintain a dozen production client desktops based on Arch Linux as far back as 2006 and failed miserably after a udev update broke everything, here's a thought from my professional experience. My Number One Fight Club rule: YOU DO NOT USE ROLLING RELEASES IN A PRODUCTION ENVIRONMENT. Yes, I shouted that out loud. 4. Yes, I have Tumbleweed running on a spare sandbox PC. Yes, it works nicely. No, I will never (ever) use it in production. 5. Stop reinventing the wheel please. You young punks remind me of myself when I was three years old and tried to "repair" my parent's perfectly functional alarm clock. Cheers from the blazing hot South of France, Niki Kovacs (https://tinyurl.com/2p8tk495) -- Microlinux - Solutions informatiques durables 7, place de l'église - 30730 Montpezat Site : https://www.microlinux.fr Blog : https://blog.microlinux.fr Mail : info(a)microlinux.fr Tél. : 04 66 63 10 32 Mob. : 06 51 80 12 12

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Server & desktop estate management
by Nicolas Kovacs 04 Jul '22

04 Jul '22

Hi, My question is not really specific to OpenSUSE, but here goes. On the latest count, I'm managing about a hundred installations: root servers, local servers, desktop PCs and laptops. Some of these are in our local school, some for a handful of companies all over France and even some in Belgium and Switzerland. Root servers are mostly Scaleway rentals in France. And then the inevitable desktops managed for friends and families. Over the years I've been using various methods to keep track of all these installations, notably specificities like BIOS configuration details, exotic hardware, extra applications besides those I usually install, etc. In the beginning it was just a simple text file per machine, then I moved on to the CherryTree note-taking application, but I'm still not satisfied with the current solution. Usually computer estate management software like GLPI or OSTicket can be relatively complex. I prefer to stick to the KISS (Keep It Simple Stupid) principle. So I'm curious: what methods do you use to keep an overview over your installations ? In a nutshell, the sort of file or series of files where you can get all the relevant information about an installation in a quick glance ? Thanks & cheers from France, Niki -- Microlinux - Solutions informatiques durables 7, place de l'église - 30730 Montpezat Site : https://www.microlinux.fr Blog : https://blog.microlinux.fr Mail : info(a)microlinux.fr Tél. : 04 66 63 10 32 Mob. : 06 51 80 12 12

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15.4 - Thunderbird 90.10 - filters sorting mail into arbitrary folders
by David C. Rankin 02 Jul '22

02 Jul '22

All, I just got a shock today with Thunderbird 91.10 on 15.4. First indication something was whacked was 1/2 the mail from the linux-kernel list was in junk. Then checking the linux-raid folder I found all the messages from Simon on the factory list there. Has anyone else seen filter oddness or corruption on the current Thunderbird? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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[oS-EN] Thunderbird trouble
by Carlos E. R. 01 Jul '22

01 Jul '22

Hi, After an update yesterday on this laptop (Leap 15.3) I'm seeing this messages, continuously, on the log: > <1.4> 2022-06-29 08:26:44 Legolas - 24006 - - ###!!! [Parent][DispatchAsyncMessage] Error: PClientManager::Msg_ExpectFutureClientSource Processing error: message was deserialized, but the handler returned false (indicating failure) > <1.4> 2022-06-29 08:26:44 Legolas - 24006 - - IPDL protocol error: Handler returned error code! > <1.4> 2022-06-29 08:26:44 Legolas - 24006 - - ###!!! [Parent][DispatchAsyncMessage] Error: PClientManager::Msg_ForgetFutureClientSource Processing error: message was deserialized, but the handler returned false (indicating failure) > <1.4> 2022-06-29 08:26:58 Legolas - 24006 - - IPDL protocol error: Handler returned error code! > <1.4> 2022-06-29 08:26:58 Legolas - 24006 - - ###!!! [Parent][DispatchAsyncMessage] Error: PClientManager::Msg_ExpectFutureClientSource Processing error: message was deserialized, but the handler returned false (indicating failure) > <1.4> 2022-06-29 08:26:58 Legolas - 24006 - - IPDL protocol error: Handler returned error code! > <1.4> 2022-06-29 08:26:58 Legolas - 24006 - - ###!!! [Parent][DispatchAsyncMessage] Error: PClientManager::Msg_ForgetFutureClientSource Processing error: message was deserialized, but the handler returned false (indicating failure) > <1.4> 2022-06-29 08:28:32 Legolas - 24006 - - IPDL protocol error: Handler returned error code! > <1.4> 2022-06-29 08:28:32 Legolas - 24006 - - ###!!! [Parent][DispatchAsyncMessage] Error: PClientManager::Msg_ExpectFutureClientSource Processing error: message was deserialized, but the handler returned false (indicating failure) > <1.4> 2022-06-29 08:28:39 Legolas - 24006 - - IPDL protocol error: Handler returned error code! > <1.4> 2022-06-29 08:28:39 Legolas - 24006 - - ###!!! [Parent][DispatchAsyncMessage] Error: PClientManager::Msg_ForgetFutureClientSource Processing error: message was deserialized, but the handler returned false (indicating failure) > <1.4> 2022-06-29 08:28:56 Legolas - 24006 - - IPDL protocol error: Handler returned error code! > <1.4> 2022-06-29 08:28:56 Legolas - 24006 - - ###!!! [Parent][DispatchAsyncMessage] Error: PClientManager::Msg_ExpectFutureClientSource Processing error: message was deserialized, but the handler returned false (indicating failure) > <1.4> 2022-06-29 08:28:57 Legolas - 24006 - - IPDL protocol error: Handler returned error code! > <1.4> 2022-06-29 08:28:57 Legolas - 24006 - - ###!!! [Parent][DispatchAsyncMessage] Error: PClientManager::Msg_ForgetFutureClientSource Processing error: message was deserialized, but the handler returned false (indicating failure) > cer@Legolas:~> ps afxu | grep 24006 > cer 24006 17.9 31.6 4422280 1244816 tty2 Sl+ 07:55 6:48 | | \_ /usr/lib64/thunderbird/thunderbird-bin > cer 24087 0.0 1.4 2588284 57256 tty2 Sl+ 07:55 0:01 | | \_ /usr/lib64/thunderbird/thunderbird-bin -contentproc -childID 1 -isForBrowser -prefsLen 1 -prefMapSize 329614 -jsInit 285636 -parentBuildID 20220525135609 -appdir /usr/lib64/thunderbird 24006 tab > cer 24159 0.0 1.3 2574900 52292 tty2 Sl+ 07:56 0:01 | | \_ /usr/lib64/thunderbird/thunderbird-bin -contentproc -childID 2 -isForBrowser -prefsLen 2167 -prefMapSize 329614 -jsInit 285636 -parentBuildID 20220525135609 -appdir /usr/lib64/thunderbird 24006 tab > cer 27607 0.0 0.0 10248 764 pts/12 S+ 08:33 0:00 | | \_ grep --color=auto 24006 > cer@Legolas:~> How do I stop that? -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE 15.3 (Legolas))

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[oS-EN] New sound problem
by Carlos E. R. 28 Jun '22

28 Jun '22

Hi, I have a new sound problem. The machine is my previous desktop machine, maybe 10 year old, running a relatively new system with Leap 15.3, and XFCE desktop. I watch movies on it, and the headphones do not work. Sound taken from the line.out output of the sound card goes to the loud speakers, and they work. If I connect the headphones on the front, I hear a very low hiss on them; the loudspeakers go silent, but no actual sound on the headphones. I see on the "audio mixer" gadget that output changes from "line out (plugged in)" to "headphones (plugged in)", so they are detected. But if I take out the jack just slightly, I can get sound on both devices. The mixer tool says that I have just line out. So I get working headphones if I tune down the external volume control on the external speakers. This means that the hardware front jack is actually connected and works, but the software is not working, once it detects the headphones are connected and does something about it. I don't know what info to provide, but here goes what I can think of: Elesar:~ # hwinfo --sound 08: PCI 300.0: 0403 Audio device [Created at pci.386] Unique ID: svHJ.YhraNp3EzIA Parent ID: B35A.Ap1NNKytTd3 SysFS ID: /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1c.0/0000:02:00.0/0000:03:00.0 SysFS BusID: 0000:03:00.0 Hardware Class: sound Model: "Creative SB1040 PCI Express" Vendor: pci 0x1102 "Creative Labs" Device: pci 0x0009 "CA0110 [Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Audio]" SubVendor: pci 0x1102 "Creative Labs" SubDevice: pci 0x0018 "SB1040 PCI Express" Driver: "snd_hda_intel" Driver Modules: "snd_hda_intel" Memory Range: 0xfe6fc000-0xfe6fffff (rw,non-prefetchable) IRQ: 16 (17396 events) Module Alias: "pci:v00001102d00000009sv00001102sd00000018bc04sc03i00" Driver Info #0: Driver Status: snd_hda_intel is active Driver Activation Cmd: "modprobe snd_hda_intel" Config Status: cfg=yes, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown Attached to: #14 (PCI bridge) Elesar:~ # Elesar:~ # inxi --audio --admin Audio: Device-1: Creative Labs CA0110 [Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Audio] driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 03:00.0 chip ID: 1102:0009 Sound Server: ALSA v: k5.3.18-150300.59.71-default Elesar:~ # -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from Elesar, using openSUSE Leap 15.3)

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Probleme beim Drucken von PDFs?
by Markus Feilner 27 Jun '22

27 Jun '22

Hallo, hat noch jemand Probleme mit dem Drucken von PDFs? Ich finde mehr und mehr PDFs von Webseiten, die nicht sauber unter Cups drucken lassen. Fehlermeldunge beziehen sich beispielsweise auf fehlende Color Profiles, Cups client zählt die Seiten hoch, kommt aber nie zum Abschluss, das PDF hängt in der Queue und blockiert auch folgende Druckaufträge. Ich suche noch, any help welcome... -- Best Regards - Mit freundlichen Grüßen, Markus Feilner, Feilner IT - 20 years of open services - https://nitter.net/mfeilner ------------------------- Digital sovereignty in three words: "Exit Strategy First!" Digitale Souveränität in Drei Worten. ------------------------- Digitale Souveränität, Nachhaltigkeit, Dokumentation Linux, Security, Strategy, Politics, Journalism, Networking. https://www.feilner-it.net, 93059 Regensburg Wöhrdstr. 10, +49 170 302 7092 (+Signal) PGP: 40A3C306F96133067C11CFD9A958A906268C9F0A http://www.feilner-it.net/files/MFpub.asc Xing: http://www.xing.com/profile/Markus_Feilner LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/markusfeilner @mfeilner: Matrix, Jabber, Skype, Twitter, Diaspora, ...

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leap 15.4 and Update repository with updates from SUSE Linux Enterprise 15
by Mark Hounschell 27 Jun '22

27 Jun '22

First I've seen this. I've recently installed packages like this and NOT seen this. Is it something to worry about? # zypper install somepackage Retrieving repository 'Packman Repository' metadata ..........................................................................................................................................[done] Building repository 'Packman Repository' cache ...............................................................................................................................................[done] Retrieving repository 'Update repository of openSUSE Backports' metadata .....................................................................................................................[done] Building repository 'Update repository of openSUSE Backports' cache ..........................................................................................................................[done] Warning: File 'repomd.xml' from repository 'Update repository with updates from SUSE Linux Enterprise 15' is unsigned. Note: Signing data enables the recipient to verify that no modifications occurred after the data were signed. Accepting data with no, wrong or unknown signature can lead to a corrupted system and in extreme cases even to a system compromise. Note: File 'repomd.xml' is the repositories master index file. It ensures the integrity of the whole repo. Warning: We can't verify that no one meddled with this file, so it might not be trustworthy anymore! You should not continue unless you know it's safe. File 'repomd.xml' from repository 'Update repository with updates from SUSE Linux Enterprise 15' is unsigned, continue? [yes/no] (no): no Retrieving repository 'Update repository with updates from SUSE Linux Enterprise 15' metadata ...............................................................................................[error] Repository 'Update repository with updates from SUSE Linux Enterprise 15' is invalid. [repo-sle-update|http://download.opensuse.org/update/leap/15.4/sle/] Valid metadata not found at specified URL History: - Signature verification failed for repomd.xml - Can't provide /repodata/repomd.xml Please check if the URIs defined for this repository are pointing to a valid repository. Warning: Skipping repository 'Update repository with updates from SUSE Linux Enterprise 15' because of the above error. Some of the repositories have not been refreshed because of an error. Loading repository data... Not seen this.

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SIM/smart card reader
by Dave Howorth 24 Jun '22

24 Jun '22

I've bought a generic USB-based SIM/smart card reader to see if I can read a SIM. It came without any useful instructions or software. I have no idea about the infrastructure of such software/hardware on linux. I've discovered and installed pcsc-lite and pcsc-ccid and pcsc-tools When I plug in the reader, it's reported in the journal: Jun 24 16:46:32 acer-suse kernel: usb 3-9.4.4.4: new full-speed USB device number 12 using xhci_hcd Jun 24 16:46:32 acer-suse mtp-probe[2189]: checking bus 3, device 12: "/sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:14.0/usb3/3-9/3-9.4/3-9.4.4/3-9.4.4.4" Jun 24 16:46:32 acer-suse kernel: usb 3-9.4.4.4: New USB device found, idVendor=2ce3, idProduct=9563 Jun 24 16:46:32 acer-suse kernel: usb 3-9.4.4.4: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=0 Jun 24 16:46:32 acer-suse kernel: usb 3-9.4.4.4: Product: EMV Smartcard Reader Jun 24 16:46:32 acer-suse kernel: usb 3-9.4.4.4: Manufacturer: Generic Jun 24 16:46:32 acer-suse mtp-probe[2189]: bus: 3, device: 12 was not an MTP device pcscd is running but pcsc_scan just says Waiting for the first reader... Anybody know anything about these devices and can advise or point me to good documentation?

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Re: Leap 15.4 installation help
by George Pappap 24 Jun '22

24 Jun '22

Well I can confirm that the 15.4 installer is working now onto this specific system. Thanks everybody for helping. On 6/24/22 12:47, George Pappap wrote: > That was about 15.3. My personal taste is that there is something > wrong with the specific motherboard and the leap installer and how is > managed the legacy and uefi settings. Now i downl > On 6/24/22 12:39, Per Jessen wrote: >> On 24/06/2022 11:20, George Pappap wrote: >>> Thanks for responding and i appreciate. It was a well tested usb >>> stick, i was using it before and after for installations, in other >>> words the installation media was ok. >> >> Okay. >> >> > Unfortunately i have not a screenshot as i > lost my courage and >> decided to install Ubuntu. By the way the installer >>> could proceed the steps with an dell laptop i3 i have too keeping >>> the graphical environment. But with this specific system it was >>> passing into the curl version or yast looks like, with a dialogue >>> asking me to chooce installation media! >> >> That sounds like your media isn't perhaps as valid as you think. >> Checksum failure? >> >>

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Re: Leap 15.4 installation help
by Per Jessen 24 Jun '22

24 Jun '22

On 24/06/2022 11:20, George Pappap wrote: > Thanks for responding and i appreciate. It was a well tested usb stick, > i was using it before and after for installations, in other words the > installation media was ok. Okay. > Unfortunately i have not a screenshot as i > lost my courage and decided to install Ubuntu. By the way the installer > could proceed the steps with an dell laptop i3 i have too keeping the > graphical environment. But with this specific system it was passing > into the curl version or yast looks like, with a dialogue asking me to > chooce installation media! That sounds like your media isn't perhaps as valid as you think. Checksum failure? -- Per Jessen, Herrliberg (24.5°C)

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