Hi list,
speaking about software raid, not hardware controller based.
I am trying to go for some local OpenSuse machine and adding some
storage to it. Was considering Raid6, and now reading about a bit and
people left and right scaremongering about the larger the disks these
days in the double digit terabyte capacities even, the more likely it
is that during a reconstruction of a raid subsequent errors would
occur.
I would absolutely like to keep my data consistent, and I am not
thinking about double digit terabytes either, would stick to 2TB or
4TB disks, with Raid6 thats at least 4 physical drives.
Now I am wondering if it possible to use a good robust file system
that can add some more parity or check blocks or redundancy on top of
the hardware disks, to absolutely be able to always read my data.
I can't add multiple machines or like those high availability stuff
like clusters and what not I read about DRBD (Distributed Replicated
Block Device), or maybe I am just too scared by those technical terms
or consider myself to be just a simpleton and wanting to keep it
rather simple.
My use case here is also not constant availablity, when a disk needs
to be replaced, so be it, but I don't want to lose my data that I can
not ever read certain parts of it again or such stuff.
The thing that came to my mind was, if there is some file systems that
would add redundancy and robustness onto the mdraid system of the
linux kernel?
Anyone with some useful insights? Roughly speaking, I was considering
some simple pcie esata interfaced controller card and an external case
enclosure with esata port and portmulitplier stuff inside, that can
present at least 4 physical disks as JBOD, just a bunch of disks, so
that the Linux can seem them all separately.
Speed and rebuild times are not my concern, but data persistence and
data integrity. Not even number of physical disks, I could live with
even one of those 8 bay device enclosures and cases that are out there
on the market.
Thanks for any help and hints.
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Hmm,
I just got this message from Atri, who I've seen looks at this list.
I haven't migrated my bugzilla account because I don't want to continue
to use the old account name. I just tried to respond and it wants
details I cannot supply (I don't know what username/password are - I've
never needed them - my browser supposedly knows them but apparently
can't reproduce whatever information is required to respond to the
'migration portal')
But more fundamentally, I don't use TW. I use Leap and I'm still on
15.0.
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Date: Sun, 07 Jun 2020 19:16:08 +0000
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To: *********
Subject: [Bug 1128204] retext crashes with core dump
http://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1128204http://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1128204#c11
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Sorry Dave, I missed the train on this one. Can you still reproduce
this with the latest TW?
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Hi,
I have one disk that is giving me problems with the smartd daemon. I get
this in the log:
<3.6> 2018-10-21T13:45:23.829155+02:00 Isengard smartd 1173 - - Device: /dev/disk/by-id/usb-WD_My_Book_25EE_32544B5354325344-0:0 [SAT], state written to /var/lib/smartmontools/smartd.WDC_WD80EZAZ_11TDBA0-2TKST2SD.ata.state
<3.6> 2018-10-21T13:45:24.483719+02:00 Isengard smartd 11255 - - Device: /dev/disk/by-id/usb-WD_My_Book_25EE_32544B5354325344-0:0 [SAT], opened
<3.6> 2018-10-21T13:45:24.484570+02:00 Isengard smartd 11255 - - Device: /dev/disk/by-id/usb-WD_My_Book_25EE_32544B5354325344-0:0 [SAT], WDC WD80EZAZ-11TDBA0, S/N:2TKST2SD, WWN:5-000cca-26af51579, FW:83.H0A83, 8.00 TB
<3.6> 2018-10-21T13:45:24.503334+02:00 Isengard smartd 11255 - - Device: /dev/disk/by-id/usb-WD_My_Book_25EE_32544B5354325344-0:0 [SAT], not found in smartd database.
<3.6> 2018-10-21T13:45:24.525071+02:00 Isengard smartd 11255 - - Device: /dev/disk/by-id/usb-WD_My_Book_25EE_32544B5354325344-0:0 [SAT], enabled SMART Attribute Autosave.
<3.6> 2018-10-21T13:45:24.530486+02:00 Isengard smartd 11255 - - Device: /dev/disk/by-id/usb-WD_My_Book_25EE_32544B5354325344-0:0 [SAT], enabled SMART Automatic Offline Testing.
<3.6> 2018-10-21T13:45:24.535003+02:00 Isengard smartd 11255 - - Device: /dev/disk/by-id/usb-WD_My_Book_25EE_32544B5354325344-0:0 [SAT], is SMART capable. Adding to "monitor" list.
<3.6> 2018-10-21T13:45:24.535627+02:00 Isengard smartd 11255 - - Device: /dev/disk/by-id/usb-WD_My_Book_25EE_32544B5354325344-0:0 [SAT], state read from /var/lib/smartmontools/smartd.WDC_WD80EZAZ_11TDBA0-2TKST2SD.ata.state
<3.6> 2018-10-21T13:45:24.880219+02:00 Isengard smartd 11255 - - Device: /dev/disk/by-id/usb-WD_My_Book_25EE_32544B5354325344-0:0 [SAT], state written to /var/lib/smartmontools/smartd.WDC_WD80EZAZ_11TDBA0-2TKST2SD.ata.state
<3.6> 2018-10-21T14:15:25.233525+02:00 Isengard smartd 11255 - - Device: /dev/disk/by-id/usb-WD_My_Book_25EE_32544B5354325344-0:0 [SAT], SMART Usage Attribute: 194 Temperature_Celsius changed from 147 to 144
<3.6> 2018-10-21T15:45:31.681938+02:00 Isengard smartd 11255 - - Device: /dev/disk/by-id/usb-WD_My_Book_25EE_32544B5354325344-0:0 [SAT], not capable of SMART self-check
<3.2> 2018-10-21T15:45:33.632399+02:00 Isengard smartd 11255 - - Device: /dev/disk/by-id/usb-WD_My_Book_25EE_32544B5354325344-0:0 [SAT], failed to read SMART Attribute Data
<3.6> 2018-10-21T16:15:24.678100+02:00 Isengard smartd 11255 - - Device: /dev/disk/by-id/usb-WD_My_Book_25EE_32544B5354325344-0:0 [SAT], read SMART Attribute Data worked again, warning condition reset after 1 email
<3.6> 2018-10-21T18:15:31.767150+02:00 Isengard smartd 11255 - - Device: /dev/disk/by-id/usb-WD_My_Book_25EE_32544B5354325344-0:0 [SAT], not capable of SMART self-check
<3.2> 2018-10-21T18:15:33.717688+02:00 Isengard smartd 11255 - - Device: /dev/disk/by-id/usb-WD_My_Book_25EE_32544B5354325344-0:0 [SAT], failed to read SMART Attribute Data
<3.6> 2018-10-21T18:45:24.587304+02:00 Isengard smartd 11255 - - Device: /dev/disk/by-id/usb-WD_My_Book_25EE_32544B5354325344-0:0 [SAT], read SMART Attribute Data worked again, warning condition reset after 1 email
It intermitently but periodically fail to read atributes, triggering
hundreds of emails sent to me to warn of the problem:
+++------------
Subject: SMART error (FailedReadSmartData) detected on host: Isengard
This message was generated by the smartd daemon running on:
host name: Isengard
DNS domain: valinor
The following warning/error was logged by the smartd daemon:
Device: /dev/disk/by-id/usb-WD_My_Book_25EE_32544B5354325344-0:0 [SAT],
failed to read SMART Attribute Data
Device info:
WDC WD80EZAZ-11TDBA0, S/N:2TKST2SD, WWN:5-000cca-26af51579, FW:83.H0A83, 8.00 TB
For details see host's SYSLOG.
You can also use the smartctl utility for further investigation.
Another message will be sent in 24 hours if the problem persists.
- ------------++-
The disk is indeed smart capable and it works fine, as long as I call
smartctl with "-d sat,16", which I do:
Isengard:~ # smartctl --test=short -d sat,16 /dev/disk/by-id/usb-WD_My_Book_25EE_32544B5354325344-0\:0
smartctl 6.6 2017-11-05 r4594 [x86_64-linux-4.4.155-68-default] (SUSE RPM)
Copyright (C) 2002-17, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org
=== START OF OFFLINE IMMEDIATE AND SELF-TEST SECTION ===
Sending command: "Execute SMART Short self-test routine immediately in off-line mode".
Drive command "Execute SMART Short self-test routine immediately in off-line mode" successful.
Testing has begun.
Please wait 2 minutes for test to complete.
Test will complete after Sun Oct 21 13:50:18 2018
Use smartctl -X to abort test.
Isengard:~ #
Isengard:~ # smartctl --health -d sat,16 /dev/disk/by-id/usb-WD_My_Book_25EE_32544B5354325344-0\:0
smartctl 6.6 2017-11-05 r4594 [x86_64-linux-4.4.155-68-default] (SUSE RPM)
Copyright (C) 2002-17, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org
=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED
Isengard:~ #
It is crucial to use "-d sat,16" or it fails:
Isengard:~ # smartctl --health
/dev/disk/by-id/usb-WD_My_Book_25EE_32544B5354325344-0\:0
smartctl 6.6 2017-11-05 r4594 [x86_64-linux-4.4.155-68-default] (SUSE RPM)
Copyright (C) 2002-17, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org
/dev/disk/by-id/usb-WD_My_Book_25EE_32544B5354325344-0:0: Unknown USB bridge [0x1058:0x25ee (0x4004)]
Please specify device type with the -d option.
Use smartctl -h to get a usage summary
Isengard:~ #
Of course I use that option on the config:
Isengard:~ # cat /etc/smartd.conf | egrep -v "^[[:space:]]*$|^#"
/dev/sda -a -o on -S on -s (S/../.././02|L/../../6/03) -m root(a)telcontar.valinor
/dev/disk/by-id/wwn-0x5000000000000001 -a -o on -S on -s (S/../.././02|L/../../6/03) -m root(a)telcontar.valinor
/dev/disk/by-id/wwn-0x5000c5009399305f -a -o on -S on -s (S/../.././02|L/../../6/03) -m root(a)telcontar.valinor
/dev/disk/by-id/usb-WD_My_Book_25EE_32544B5354325344-0:0 -d sat,16 -a -o on -S on -s (S/../.././02|L/../../6/03) -m root(a)telcontar.valinor
Isengard:~ #
What else am I missing? Is smartd not using "-d sat,16" somewhere else? Is
it some other problem?
Isengard:~ # rpm -q smartmontools
smartmontools-6.6-135.1.x86_64
Isengard:~ #
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Cheers
Carlos E. R.
(from 42.3 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar)
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Hi,
I know that it is used as a live cd or stick, but I wonder if could create
an external hard disk with openSUSE and the clonezilla tools. The external
would be the live system, the storage space for the images, and a familiar
Linux system, with openSUSE, that would do more than just clone/restore a
system.
I suppose it is a script and some tools like partclone.
Anybody tried?
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All,
For my 15.2 guests, I use Oracles virtualbox (currently testbuilds) I build
my own modules for guest additions. I explicitly removed virtualbox-guest-x11
because I don't want the conflicting guest modules. DKMS rebuilds the modules
just fine on kernel update with the vboxadd.service enabled.
Now, for some reason, when I attempt zypper up I get:
The following NEW package is going to be installed:
virtualbox-guest-x11
I know I can just put a lock or exclusion of some type on it -- but why is
it trying to install itself as a new package? I didn't ask it to?
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Am 30.08.20 um 19:23 schrieb Wolfgang Rosenauer:
> Hi,
>
> Am 30.08.20 um 15:07 schrieb Mathias Homann:
>> thunderbird 78.2.0 is out and has working gpg integration now, I think it's
>> safe to upgrade the package in /mozilla...
>
> for the mozilla projet I think so as well. So when can we get it?
oh, wait, I guess I just asked myself.
This mail - in case it arrives for you - has been sent with Thunderbird
78.2.1 on openSUSE Leap 15.2 using the package in mozilla:beta.
I'm not planning to upgrade Tumbleweed within the next few days but give
people the chance to test this one and send feedback / open bugreports.
Please also keep in mind that the OpenPGP integration in TB 78 does not
use system GPG and also not the regular keyring but has its own
keymanagement only right now.
Wolfgang
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Hi all,
was I the only one having issues with openSUSE-2020-1282 (the grub2 patch)
that was rolled out yesterday? After installing it I couldn't boot to linux
anymore, the error was something about being unable to read the kernel and ram
disk.
grub2-mkconfig didn't help, only rolling back to the grub version before the
patch did.
Did anyone else notice?
cheers
Mathias
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Hello,
On my main laptop, I find the cpu is getting hot very fast
My desk is climatized, temperature is not cold but not hot either
(around 27°C)
at rest the cpu temp is around 60°
a simple copy from a disk to an other makes it go up to 85°C, and dmesg
gives red warning cpu speed is reduced.
[ 661.011117] CPU2: Core temperature above threshold, cpu clock
throttled (total events = 1)
[ 661.011118] CPU3: Package temperature above threshold, cpu clock
throttled (total events = 1)
[
sensors
coretemp-isa-0000
Adapter: ISA adapter
Package id 0: +60.0°C (high = +84.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 0: +59.0°C (high = +84.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
(...)
the computer become completely unresponsive, impossible to switch
desktop or applications,
copy:> sensors
coretemp-isa-0000
Adapter: ISA adapter
Package id 0: +79.0°C (high = +84.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
the bottom of the computer can be opened, but it's not that easy (lot of
just now I couldn't finish this mail before the copy (from caddy hdd to
usb disk - system is on ssd). Smartctl shows disks are fully ok
I *can* try to remove dust :-). But is there any use to change thermal
grease on cpu (much more difficult)
top and pas ax do not show any btrfs activity (root), involved disk is ext4
thanks
jdd
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Hi,
is it possible by now to uninstall python2 and **not** break half of
one's system? Leap 15.2 here... and a "zypper rm -u python-base" would
wipe out several desktop apps that I use...
Cheers
Mathias
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