I know I should have done the upgrade long ago but work has been crazy.
I have one laptop still 15.2 which apparently needs to upgrade to 15.3
and then to 15.4 .
I also have a neighbors old Gateway which is 64 bit which could go the
15.4 route directly or Tumbleweed.
What I am wondering with all this complexity should I just switch to
Tumbleweed rolling release and skip all the extra work.
What is your experience with either???
I know kde3 is going away unless that one guy takes control of it but I
find Trinity aka kde 3.5.12 is available for both the 15.x series and
I just wish Evolution could be repaired to use mbox for the filters I
have created. I do not need M$ exchange comparability.
Build 243.2 dated 28 May is now available on my closest mirror. Is this
the actual Gold Master, and if so, are there any issues which would
suggest against an early update to 15.4? Server loads are likely to be
heavy next Wednesday, and I would like to avoid that if at all possible.
Second question: I note there are no .torrent files for 15.4 (in fact,
all such files have been removed for all 15.x releases). Are these gone
forever? It's a shame if that is so, since torrent sharing is the
fastest way to distribute the ISO files, and significantly reduces the
load on the mirrors once everyone starts downloading them.
Factory announced 15.4 is no Gold Master. So will my next zypper dup be the
last zypper dup for 15.4, and then zypper up after that?
Or is there some other milestone I should look for to know when to switch
from zypper dup to zypper up?
David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.
I've just downloaded what I believe to be a game coded in Visual Basic.
I'd like to recover the source of it, or at least be able to read it,
and I'd like to be able to translate the associated data tables to
something useful (it's an adventure style game called Quest), but I
don't know how.
It arrived as a zip file and when unzipped I see a bunch of files.
'file' says most of them are 'MS Compress archive data' and the rest
appear to be obviously not of much interest:
$ file *
ADATA1._: MS Compress archive data
ADATA2._: MS Compress archive data
OLDS4.FO_: MS Compress archive data
OLDS4.TT_: MS Compress archive data
QUEST.EX_: MS Compress archive data
SETUP1.EX_: MS Compress archive data
SETUP.EXE: MS-DOS executable, NE for MS Windows 3.x
SETUPKIT.DL_: MS Compress archive data
SETUP.LST: ASCII text, with CRLF line terminators
VBRUN300.DL_: MS Compress archive data
VER.DL_: MS-DOS executable, NE for MS Windows 3.x (driver)
My google-foo seems to be a bit weak today :( Can anybody suggest a
program that can read those files and turn them into something more
On some of my computers I have a problem: the thresold for picking an
edge of the window to resize it (using XFCE) is so narrow that I have to
keep moving the mouse for 20 seconds till I manage to get hold of it.
First the horizontal, then the vertical. Forget about grabbing the corner.
Where can I adjust it? Not in mouse settings. :-?
Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from Elesar, using openSUSE Leap 15.3)
I'm on Leap 15.3. Held off the update from Thunderbird 78esr to 91esr
for quite a long time because I'd read of one or two issues and knew it
might be best to wait a while.
Now, let me state that I've been using Thunderbird since pre-1.0 days
about twenty years ago. It's always been rock solid stable, sometimes a
bit old and clunky but absolutely reliable, more so than just about any
other software I use. I also understand that open source developers
don't get enthused by criticism and they give their free time and energy
and we should all do our best to show appreciation and be constructive
in our conversations and hug trees.
With that said, all current Thunderbird developers must die!
Okay, I'll back off a bit. After twenty years of rock solid stability I
upgraded to 91esr and have run into a catalogue of irritations, some of
which I should have actually catalogued because I've now forgotten for a
moment what they are, but I'm sure they'll come back to haunt me some
more. In the v91 release notes I see lots of happy-clapping for spangly
new features that are of no relevance to me. I just want the continued
Somebody already remarked on here some time ago that scrolling in the TB
message preview pane is now horked. I either have to click or move the
mouse about erratically in the pane to get it to scroll. Sometimes it
scrolls immediately, other times not, and seems worse when there's
images in the mail but no consistency or logic to it. Tried turning on
hardware acceleration and for an hour or so thought that had cured it,
only for the problem to return many times since.
One or two other smaller annoyances I'll just have to put up with for
the time being, but I'd like to know if anybody else has witnessed high
CPU usage, specifically in Thunderbird 91esr on Leap 15.3? I wondered if
it was continually reindexing my twenty years' archive of folders, and
at first it seemed to do it fairly routinely once a day in early
evening. But then it became more frequent, and now it spins up several
times a day. This laptop has been ultra quiet for three years. 8 cores,
32gb of RAM, all of which I barely use. Bought it secondhand-like-new
and it's way overspec'd for the mostly mundane tasks I require of it.
Only very rarely does a CPU intensive task spin up the fan and make any
noise noticeable, briefly. But now Thunderbird is doing this
consistently. At this rate, it's going to wipe two years off the
lifetime of this machine.
I do NOT have the global search and indexer feature enabled. I tried
deselecting and reselecting it as OFF just to make sure. If I look in
Plasma's System Activity when the high load occurs, I see Thunderbird
showing typically between 6 and 22% CPU load whilst most other processes
are rarely pushing more than 1 or 2%. There may be subprocesses amongst
the bazillion other kworker and whatever garbage things further down the
list, but I can't pick out anything for sure. Nothing that nudges more
than a percent or two.
It's also not the Compact Folders process, because I still only do that
manually after a prompt. It just prompted me for the first time in a
long while (I have it set to only act with over ~200mb wasted space),
and after that ran for a few seconds, my system just went into some kind
of hyperdrive like never before witnessed, whilst Baloo reindexed for a
few minutes and half the neighbourhood lost power to the centrale
nucléaire whilst Mr Linux plays with his email client.
And now Firefox has decided to join in the fun and games. Again, the
standard latest ESR version for 15.3. Most particularly when I start
playing anything in YouTube, but not uniquely that. System Activity
usually shows a process 'RDD' consuming one core, and my fan starts
going into warp speed again. Never happened before this last week or
two. In both Thunderbird and Firefox I've turned off all studies, data
collection, error reporting and whatnot to eliminate that.
It could be that others have these symptoms but don't notice on their
desktop fanless or soundproofed machines. What could be the cause?
No I haven't yet filed any bug reports. I'm unsure if it could be
openSUSE-specific, perhaps some other dependency like a graphics update
that has nothing to do with Mozilla. Too many vague things to know where
to even start. And no I haven't tried creating a blank profile because I
can be almost certain nothing will go goofy in such an empty profile,
and I don't want the inconvenience of setting up and receiving pop mail
in a fresh instance and then having to merge it all back into my main
mail at a later date.
On XFCE, using xfce4-screensaver, when it locks, I do not see a button
to switch to another user.
Is there some way to make it appear?
Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from Elesar, using openSUSE Leap 15.3)
is anyone else having issues with the latest zoom (5.10.0-2450) on Tumbleweed?
It keeps crashing on me, directly at start, even the crash report form doesn't
stay on screen, but vanishes before I can type in anything.
Carlos E. R. wrote:
> On 2022-05-28 11:44, Per Jessen wrote:
>> Carlos E. R. wrote:
>>> On 2022-05-28 10:22, Stefan Seyfried wrote:
>>>> On 27.05.22 13:01, Lukáš Krejza wrote:
>>>>> Well, when you start Konversation,
>>>> what is this "Konversation" thing?
>>> An IRC client that comes preconfigured on Leap, out of the box.
>>>> How can I scroll back in IRC to see what happened the last days?
>>>> That's pretty crucial for a time-shifted (non realtime)
>>>> communication channel.
>>> You can't.
>> If Konversation remains open, you can scroll back. I have just
>> scrolled back to 17 May.
> I can't. I see "now", and the text I got when I tested last night.
This is going off-topic on project.lists, switching over to the general
How long has your Konversation been open for? Mine has been open at
least since 17 May.
Per Jessen, Zürich (20.2°C)
Member, openSUSE Heroes
First of all, sorry for this cross-post, but it is relevant to all of the
I am just wondering if my experience is so much different, or if I use the
distro differently than other users, that it seems so much stable for me.
Often i see people recommending against "zypper dup", recommending
"tumbleweed-cli" instead of "zypper dup", using "opi" for codecs install
instead of 1-click install on opensuse-community, and so on, because the
system "could" or "will for sure" break at some time. Why there is a need for
all this fancy and new stuff and is it possible that these combinations and
diversity increases possibility for issues?
Given all of these, I should have had my home machines broken already a
million times and burned to death.
- I am using Tumbleweed
- I have all these repositories enabled:  (yes, no priorities currently)
- I have "zypper dup", "zypper inr", "zypper ve" in my daily cron job
- I have enabled vendor changes in zypper conf
- I have disabled multiversion.kernel in zypper conf (keeps kernel packages
with their dependencies and/or DKMS clean and working)
- I have disabled snapper as a whole
- I have installed some VMWare software from their crappy .run packages, which
means some parts are compiled from source
During my over-15 years-long experience with *SUSE, i never experienced an
unbootable system or a serious issue, except:
- Nvidia driver issues before they were packaged for *SUSE and you had to use
the .run installation ( ancient SaX2 times, before Xorg autoconfiguration ). On
my gaming system i have just enabled nvidia repos and forgot about it.
- Akonadi issues because of my experiments with bleeding edge mariadb in
combination with my mailbox containing few million e-mails, also many years
- Btrfs issues (total system crash) when it was unstable and i had enabled
snapper an ran out of space - which was resolved by reinstall and re-mounting
my /home/ (i am not using snapper since then)
So my question is - have the RPM dependencies gone weaker than they were
"before" or something? Could that combination of all the emergency safe
features, like btrfs snapshots in combination with multiversion kernel and/or
packages, tumbleweed-cli, opi, etc...? Why are RPM deps not enough to keep the
system solid anymore?
My experience with *SUSE has always been rock-solid-stable and one of the very
few things i do manually from time to time is firing up yast2 sw_single,
removing unmaintained packages and checking change-logs of some packages i am
Take this as a congrats and thanks for all the maintainers, developers and
everyone taking care. And most importantly, the OBS, which does pretty neat
job with automatic package dependencies and all that stuff. One more time -
thank you OBS and all the people developing and working on it! :)
And while i am doing this braindump, please revive SUSE Studio :P :)
And last, but not least - thanks Packman people :)