From: Dave Howorth Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2022 20:27:05 +0000 On Tue, 27 Dec 2022 18:40:13 +0100 Per Jessen wrote:

Istvan Gabor wrote:

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This is only a test message to see how the list shows it. Text formatting removed.Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. Proin orci mauris, dictum id justo vitae, tempus efficitur velit. Etiam a dictum lacus, et pharetra justo. Phasellus ut accumsan nisi.Vestibulum lorem nisl, cursus non felis sed, iaculis consequat tortor. Nulla vestibulum dignissim interdum. Morbi condimentum justo non ante ullamcorper, vel tristique sem commodo.

Still some spaces omitted, but only two I think.

I'm not sure what you're looking at Per? Spaces being omitted is not the problem I'm seeing. A total lack of formatting is. In both messages. I assume you're talking about the fact that the text/html version has two paragraphs whereas the text/plain version is run together into one? The HTML versions have two <div> blocks with a <br /> between them, which ought to have corresponded to a blank line in plain text. Further, the MUA apparently decided that two consecutive line breaks in the original text represented a paragraph break, but didn't bother to insert "<br />" for the single line breaks in the HTML versions, leading to the other major formatting difference between text/html and text/plain. And whatever formatting Istvan used in the first message had no effect at all. My MUA doesn't render HTML, so I thought I'd look under the hood; it also gives me opportunity to notice how badly other peoples' MUAs suck at this. -- Bob Rogers http://www.rgrjr.com/

On Wed, 28 Dec 2022 12:20:06 +0900, Masaru Nomiya wrote:

In the Message;    Date & Time: Tue, 27 Dec 2022 17:12:13 +0000 (GMT) [IG] == Istvan Gabor has written:

IG>  This is only a test message to see how the list shows it. Text [...] IG>  Nulla vestibulum dignissim interdum. Morbi condimentum justo non ante IG>  ullamcorper, vel tristique sem commodo.

I think Istvan got a convincing result from this test mail.

He is fluent in English, and I think we can assume that there is a good reason for him to go to the trouble of testing in Hungarian, don't you?

That's funny. :-)  Thanks. (I hope it really is Latin, or else the joke's on me.) -- Robert Webb

On Wed, 28 Dec 2022 13:08:41 +0900, Masaru Nomiya wrote:

In the Message;    Date & Time: Wed, 28 Dec 2022 03:43:56 +0000 (UTC) [RW] == Robert Webb has written:

RW>  On Wed, 28 Dec 2022 12:20:06 +0900, Masaru Nomiya wrote: RW>  > In the Message; RW>  >   Date & Time: Tue, 27 Dec 2022 17:12:13 +0000 (GMT) RW>  > [IG] == Istvan Gabor has written: RW>  > RW>  > IG>  This is only a test message to see how the list shows it. Text RW>  > [...] RW>  > IG>  Nulla vestibulum dignissim interdum. Morbi condimentum justo non ante RW>  > IG>  ullamcorper, vel tristique sem commodo. RW>  > RW>  > I think Istvan got a convincing result from this test mail. RW>  > RW>  > He is fluent in English, and I think we can assume that there is a RW>  > good reason for him to go to the trouble of testing in Hungarian, RW>  > don't you?

RW>  That's funny. :-)  Thanks. RW>  (I hope it really is Latin, or else the joke's on me.)

He is only adopting Latin as a writing system for Hungarian, as many Hungarians do, and Hungarian itself is not a language of Latin origin.

Dry is your wit, I admit.  Or ... You're serious: In that case, seriously, I don't think Istvan's test text is Hungarian. Wikipedia says, "Hungarian is written using an expanded Latin alphabet" that includes letters with acute accents and umlauts.[1]  The test text includes none of those.  Google Translate could not translate it as Hungarian, but did translate it as Latin, although into partly nonsense English.  Here is the result:     The customer is very important, the customer will be followed by     the customer.  According to the medical doctor, it is said that just     in life, time is made.  Even from the said lake, and just a quiver.     As a layer, except     The web site is not a trigger, but a target.  Sometimes there     is no investment.  Morbid sauce just not before the ullamcorper,     or the sad salad is convenient. The part I like is the last phrase.  Sometimes we may eat sad salads because they are convenient. Versions of that same pseudo-Latin text are used by graphic designers as dummy text to show page layout.[2]  Very similar to Istvan's purpose, right? So, Istvan, did you use a 'Lorem ipsum generator', or copy-and-paste it from somewhere, or wing it with your own variation? [1]  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungarian_language#Writing_system [2]  https://www.straightdope.com/21343427/what-does-the-filler-text-lorem-ipsum-... -- Robert Webb

Hello, In the Message; Subject : Re: mail formatting test 2 - formatting removed Message-ID : <2005564161.4859320.1672217648867@mail.yahoo.com> Date & Time: Wed, 28 Dec 2022 08:54:08 +0000 (UTC) [RW] == Robert Webb has written: RW>>>  That's funny. :-)  Thanks. RW>>>  (I hope it really is Latin, or else the joke's on me.) MN>> He is only adopting Latin as a writing system for Hungarian, as many MN>> Hungarians do, and Hungarian itself is not a language of Latin origin. RW> Dry is your wit, I admit.  Or ... RW> You're serious: I'm so, so sorry. RW> In that case, seriously, I don't think Istvan's test text is Hungarian. [...] RW> text includes none of those.  Google Translate could not translate RW> it as Hungarian, but did translate it as Latin, although into partly RW> nonsense English.  I have a Latin-Japanese dictionary, so I took it off the shelf and looked it up, and found the corresponding word group. However, as you say, there are some words that I can't understand at all, so I asked Google and it gave me the following site; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorem_ipsum#cite_note-SDop-2 RW> Wikipedia says, "Hungarian is written using an expanded Latin alphabet" RW> that includes letters with acute accents and umlauts.[1]  This is based on the spread of Christianity, and I have heard that the adoption of the Lovács script has spread rapidly in recent years. I had only heard about it, so I looked it up to see if I could watch it, and found out that current computers cannot display the Lovács script. Regards. --- ┏━━┓彡 野宮 賢 mail-to: nomiya @ galaxy.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ " Today’s China is not the old China humiliated and bullied over 100 years ago. It is time for these people to wake up from their imperial dream." -- Hua Chunying’s Regular Press Conference on August 4, 2022 --