On Tue, Dec 13, 2022 at 12:09 PM David C. Rankin wrote:

On 12/13/22 01:01, Masaru Nomiya wrote:

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How about this?

https://www.reddit.com/r/voidlinux/comments/uxr5pv/no_microphone_input_in_di...

Well,

The answer there says install pulseaudio -- I was trying to avoid that.

According to Arch wiki, web client should work with ALSA.

ALSA works for everything else, so why not discord?

You pretend you do not know the answer? Because nobody cared enough to implement it.

Hello, In the Message; Subject : Re: 15.4 - How to make Mic work with Discord -- fine with Audacity and arecord?? Message-ID : <6cc21459-bb28-9186-4501-40a4e324a6b1@suddenlinkmail.com> Date & Time: Tue, 13 Dec 2022 03:08:42 -0600 [DCR] == "David C. Rankin" has written: DCR> On 12/13/22 01:01, Masaru Nomiya wrote: MN> > How about this? MN> > MN> > https://www.reddit.com/r/voidlinux/comments/uxr5pv/no_microphone_input_in_di... DCR> Well, DCR> The answer there says install pulseaudio -- I was trying to DCR> avoid that. ALSA works for everything else, so why not discord? That was on my mind too ... For example. 　$ pw-play some_audio_file works fine? If not, please do; 1. $ systemctl --user daemon-reload 2. $ systemctl --user start pipewire pipewire-pulse wireplumber then, try again. $ pw-play some_audio_file The pipewire is not involved in the operation of audacity and arecord. Regards. --- ┏━━┓彡 Masaru Nomiya mail-to: nomiya @ galaxy.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "A society bound by e-mail and mobile phones deprives us of the freedom to face ourselves and indulge our fantasies." -- Michael Crichton (Speech in Japan) --

Hello, In the Message; Subject : Re: 15.4 - How to make Mic work with Discord -- fine with Audacity and arecord?? Message-ID : <11e1c6e4-578b-a9d6-3a86-dcb2a7034491@telefonica.net> Date & Time: Tue, 13 Dec 2022 11:48:22 +0100 [CER] == "Carlos E. R." has written: [...] MN> > For example. MN> > MN> > 　$ pw-play some_audio_file MN> > MN> > works fine? MN> > MN> > If not, please do; MN> > MN> > 1. $ systemctl --user daemon-reload MN> > 2. $ systemctl --user start pipewire pipewire-pulse wireplumber MN> > MN> > then, try again. MN> > MN> > $ pw-play some_audio_file CER> It crashes when told to play an mp3, says it is not supported and then dumps CER> core. Is that normal? Thanks. Sorry, pw-play can't play mp3 audio file. But it's strange to hear that it crashes. Anyway, could you test with wav, ogg, or flac audio file? Regards. --- ┏━━┓彡 野宮 賢 mail-to: nomiya @ galaxy.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "She continues to deeply divide opinion, nearly a decade after her death in 2013, due to her policies of privatisation, breaking the power of trade unions, and selling off public housing." -- World Is One News --

Op dinsdag 13 december 2022 20:06:05 CET schreef Carlos E. R.:

On 13/12/2022 12.56, Masaru Nomiya wrote:

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Hello,

In the Message;

Subject : Re: 15.4 - How to make Mic work with Discord -- fine with Audacity and arecord?? Message-ID : <11e1c6e4-578b-a9d6-3a86-dcb2a7034491@telefonica.net> Date & Time: Tue, 13 Dec 2022 11:48:22 +0100

[CER] == "Carlos E. R." has written:

[...] MN> > For example. MN> > MN> > 　$ pw-play some_audio_file MN> > MN> > works fine? MN> > MN> > If not, please do; MN> > MN> > 1. $ systemctl --user daemon-reload MN> > 2. $ systemctl --user start pipewire pipewire-pulse wireplumber MN> > MN> > then, try again. MN> > MN> > $ pw-play some_audio_file

CER> It crashes when told to play an mp3, says it is not supported and then dumps CER> core. Is that normal?

Thanks.

Sorry, pw-play can't play mp3 audio file. But it's strange to hear that it crashes.

Anyway, could you test with wav, ogg, or flac audio file?

I was just curious about that command. I don't know if it should work in this machine.

Silence.

cer@Legolas:~/Music> pw-play /usr/share/quadrapassel/sounds/slide.ogg stream node 41 error: no node available remote error: id=3 seq:7 res:-2 (No such file or directory): no node available cer@Legolas:~/Music> pw-play /usr/share/sounds/gnome/default/alerts/sonar.ogg stream node 41 error: no node available remote error: id=3 seq:6 res:-2 (No such file or directory): no node available cer@Legolas:~/Music>

cer@Legolas:~/Music> pw-play /usr/share/sounds/speech-dispatcher/test.wav stream node 41 error: no node available remote error: id=3 seq:7 res:-2 (No such file or directory): no node available cer@Legolas:~/Music>

cer@Legolas:~/Music> pactl info Server String: /run/user/1000/pulse/native Library Protocol Version: 35 Server Protocol Version: 35 Is Local: yes Client Index: 5 Tile Size: 65472 User Name: cer Host Name: Legolas.valinor Server Name: pulseaudio Server Version: 15.0 Default Sample Specification: s16le 2ch 44100Hz Default Channel Map: front-left,front-right Default Sink: alsa_output.pci-0000_00_1b.0.analog-stereo Default Source: alsa_input.pci-0000_00_1b.0.analog-stereo Cookie: e3a8:84ab cer@Legolas:~/Music>

This is Leap 15.4, with pulse AFAIK. Whatever YaST does.

-- Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.

(from openSUSE 15.4 (Legolas))

I can play files this way, but on TW, so I guess one needs the full pipewire stack -- Gertjan Lettink a.k.a. Knurpht openSUSE Board openSUSE Forums Team

Hello, In the Message; Subject : Re: 15.4 - How to make Mic work with Discord -- fine with Audacity and arecord?? Message-ID : Date & Time: Tue, 13 Dec 2022 20:06:05 +0100 [CER] == "Carlos E. R." has written: [...] CER> cer@Legolas:~/Music> pactl info CER> Server String: /run/user/1000/pulse/native CER> Library Protocol Version: 35 CER> Server Protocol Version: 35 CER> Is Local: yes CER> Client Index: 5 CER> Tile Size: 65472 CER> User Name: cer CER> Host Name: Legolas.valinor CER> Server Name: pulseaudio CER> Server Version: 15.0 CER> Default Sample Specification: s16le 2ch 44100Hz CER> Default Channel Map: front-left,front-right CER> Default Sink: alsa_output.pci-0000_00_1b.0.analog-stereo CER> Default Source: alsa_input.pci-0000_00_1b.0.analog-stereo CER> Cookie: e3a8:84ab CER> cer@Legolas:~/Music> CER> This is Leap 15.4, with pulse AFAIK. Whatever YaST does. Just as I thought ... The pipewire system configuration remains incomplete. In my case, $ pactl info Server String: /run/user/1000/pulse/native Library Protocol Version: 35 Server Protocol Version: 35 Is Local: yes Client Index: 63 Tile Size: 65472 User Name: masaru Host Name: localhost Server Name: PulseAudio (on PipeWire 0.3.62) <---- This is the point! Server Version: 15.0.0 Default Sample Specification: float32le 2ch 384000Hz Default Channel Map: front-left,front-right Default Sink: alsa_output.usb-D_M_Holdings_Inc._HD-AMP1-00.analog-stereo Default Source: alsa_output.usb-D_M_Holdings_Inc._HD-AMP1-00.analog-stereo.monitor Cookie: 3472:6c70 Your problem will be solved by installing the required set of files. The required files are; pipewire-tools pipewire-alsa pipewire-spa-tools libpipewire-0_3-0 gstreamer-plugin-pipewire pipewire-spa-plugins-0_2 pipewire-lang pipewire-modules-0_3 pipewire-pulseaudio pipewire libpulse0 pulseaudio-utils pulseaudio-zsh-completion libpulse-mainloop-glib0 By the way, when I try to play mp3 audio file with pw-play in my environment, I get; $ pw-play abc.mp3 sndfile: failed to open audio file "abc.mp3": File contains data in an unimplemented format. error: open failed: Input/output error Regards. --- ┏━━┓彡 野宮 賢 mail-to: nomiya @ galaxy.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "A bachelor’s degree still holds prestige as a ticket to the middle class, but its value has received increasing scrutiny. In the last several years, rising tuition and student loan debt have led more Americans to reconsider an investment in postsecondary education." -- Washington Post --

On 13/12/2022 23.12, Masaru Nomiya wrote:

Hello,

In the Message;

Subject : Re: 15.4 - How to make Mic work with Discord -- fine with Audacity and arecord?? Message-ID : Date & Time: Tue, 13 Dec 2022 20:06:05 +0100

[CER] == "Carlos E. R." has written:

[...] CER> cer@Legolas:~/Music> pactl info CER> Server String: /run/user/1000/pulse/native CER> Library Protocol Version: 35 CER> Server Protocol Version: 35 CER> Is Local: yes CER> Client Index: 5 CER> Tile Size: 65472 CER> User Name: cer CER> Host Name: Legolas.valinor CER> Server Name: pulseaudio CER> Server Version: 15.0 CER> Default Sample Specification: s16le 2ch 44100Hz CER> Default Channel Map: front-left,front-right CER> Default Sink: alsa_output.pci-0000_00_1b.0.analog-stereo CER> Default Source: alsa_input.pci-0000_00_1b.0.analog-stereo CER> Cookie: e3a8:84ab CER> cer@Legolas:~/Music>

CER> This is Leap 15.4, with pulse AFAIK. Whatever YaST does.

Just as I thought ... The pipewire system configuration remains incomplete.

In my case,

$ pactl info

Server String: /run/user/1000/pulse/native Library Protocol Version: 35 Server Protocol Version: 35 Is Local: yes Client Index: 63 Tile Size: 65472 User Name: masaru Host Name: localhost Server Name: PulseAudio (on PipeWire 0.3.62) <---- This is the point! Server Version: 15.0.0 Default Sample Specification: float32le 2ch 384000Hz Default Channel Map: front-left,front-right Default Sink: alsa_output.usb-D_M_Holdings_Inc._HD-AMP1-00.analog-stereo Default Source: alsa_output.usb-D_M_Holdings_Inc._HD-AMP1-00.analog-stereo.monitor Cookie: 3472:6c70

Your problem will be solved by installing the required set of files. The required files are;

pipewire-tools

Was already installed

pipewire-alsa

Ok

pipewire-spa-tools libpipewire-0_3-0 gstreamer-plugin-pipewire pipewire-spa-plugins-0_2 pipewire-lang pipewire-modules-0_3 pipewire-pulseaudio pipewire

libpulse0 pulseaudio-utils pulseaudio-zsh-completion libpulse-mainloop-glib0

pipewire-pulseaudio wants to remove: pulseaudio-15 (8 packages). I'm not sure that is wise. I understand that pipewire is incomplete in Leap, so I risk breaking the system. I don't know why I have part of pipewire installed.

By the way, when I try to play mp3 audio file with pw-play in my environment, I get;

$ pw-play abc.mp3

sndfile: failed to open audio file "abc.mp3": File contains data in an unimplemented format. error: open failed: Input/output error-- Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE 15.4 (Legolas))

On Wed, 14 Dec 2022 11:53:25 +0900, Masaru Nomiya wrote:

[...] It's just a matter of changing from pulseaudio, the sound server, to pipewire, the multimedia server, and this won't break the system. [...]

Read this page: https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Pipewire -- Robert Webb

On Wed, 14 Dec 2022 16:20:33 +0900, Masaru Nomiya wrote:

In the Message;    Date & Time: Wed, 14 Dec 2022 07:04:06 +0000 (UTC) [RW] == Robert Webb has written: RW>  On Wed, 14 Dec 2022 11:53:25 +0900, Masaru Nomiya wrote: RW>  > [...] RW>  > It's just a matter of changing from pulseaudio, the sound server, to RW>  > pipewire, the multimedia server, and this won't break the RW>  > system. RW>  > [...]

RW>  Read this page: RW>  https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Pipewire

I read it, but I can't understand your intention to read it.

Excuse me.  I was lazy in responding.  The openSUSE Wiki page describes doing exactly what you suggest.  If Carlos is considering changing his audio setup, the page gives the reason that some manual installation is needed instead of an automatic migration from PulseAudio to PipeWire. It also describes how to change back to PulseAudio, and mentions several useful PipeWire tools.  The page is important as a more available record of these procedures than a mailing list posting.  Note, I haven't taken the time to compare your instructions to the wiki's. There may be additions or changes you might want to make to the wiki. BTW, here is some background on PipeWire: https://lwn.net/Articles/847412/ -- Robert Webb

Hello, In the Message; Subject : Re: 15.4 - How to make Mic work with Discord -- fine with Audacity and arecord?? Message-ID : <11e1c6e4-578b-a9d6-3a86-dcb2a7034491@telefonica.net> Date & Time: Tue, 13 Dec 2022 11:48:22 +0100 [CER] == "Carlos E. R." has written: [...] CER> It crashes when told to play an mp3, says it is not supported and then dumps CER> core. Is that normal? Could you show the rsult of; $ pactl info Regards & Good Night. --- ┏━━┓彡 Masaru Nomiya mail-to: nomiya @ galaxy.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "In a mobile phone metadata dataset of more than 40k people, it correctly identifies 52% of individuals based on their 2-hop interaction graph. We further show that the profiles learned by our method are stable over time and that 24% of people are still identifiable after 20 weeks. " -- 「Interaction data are identifiable even across long periods of time」 --