openSUSE Users February 2011

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[opensuse] annoying 11.3 nvidia / graphics hiccup
by Carl Hartung 09 Feb '11

09 Feb '11

Hi All, I could not get 11.3 x86_64 to correctly configure my graphics to match the working (seemed simple to set up at the time) configuration I'd had in 11.1 So, as an experiment, I transplanted my 11.1 working xorg.conf and *bingo* it worked ... for a few minutes :-( ... but exhibited a very annoying problem related to twinview, described below. I Googled, studied relevant forums at nVidia, dug through all my 'forensics / debugging' notes to no avail. So, I downgraded the nVidia driver using their installer (works a treat; backs the existing config up and installs an '--unstall' option to back it out, if needed.) The downgraded driver works beautifully but I'd prefer to not have to manually intervene every time there's a kernel update. Below is a copy of my post at the nVidia forum (not holding my breath.) If you have any ideas or or experience debugging this oddball problem, I'd be grateful for suggestions. regards, Carl - - - - - 8< - - - - - hardware ASUS X83VB-X1 (laptop) S/N 89N0AS533473390 M/B N80VB GPU GeForce 9300 M GS, 512MB working environments a) openSUSE 11.1 x86_64 up to driver NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-260.19.21 b) openSUSE 11.3 x86_64 downgraded to driver NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-260.19.21 'broken' environments a) openSUSE 11.3 x86_64 with driver NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-260.19.29 b) openSUSE 11.3 x86_64 with driver NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-260.19.36 (kernel 2.6.34.7-0.7-default) description of problem I run in Twinview, with my external display positioned to the right of my laptop. internal display: 1280 x 800 external display: 1680 x 1050 virtual desktop: 2960 x 1050 When working correctly, the laptop display pans up and down, 'tracking' my mouse as needed, to accommodate the additional height of the virtual desktop. The 'broken' configuration (starting with the new default openSUSE 11.3 install running either of the later nVidia drivers) causes the mouse pointer to lock up and momentarily disappear, and the normal panning to fail, when I attempt to breach the upper or lower boundary of the laptop display. This is triggered on either display, but the disappearance of the mouse pointer is more visible on the larger one. I can 'bump' the boundaries and wait for the mouse pointer to reappear, and in this manner gradually, incrementally navigate around. But the system isn't actually usable. I've transplanted a copy of the working 11.1 xorg.conf and downgraded the driver and the system is running great. But it would be better to not have to intervene manually at every kernel update. Any insight or assistance will be gratefully appreciated. - - - - - 8< - - - - - -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Strange problem with Pure-FTPD on OpenSuSE 11.1
by Claudio Prono 09 Feb '11

09 Feb '11

Hello all, Today i have noticed a strange problem with Pure-FTP. I use pure-ftpd-1.0.21-182.33.2 on OpenSuSE 11.1 (x86_64) with virtual users stored into the PureDB user database. An ftp user have a limitation from the IP Address he can connect. His entry into the puredb.passwd is something like this: ftp04:$XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX:1001:1005::/home/ftpusers/ftp04/./::::::::::151.1.1.1:: This means the user ftp04 is usable only from the IP address 151.1.1.1, right? Well, not in this case. For some strange reason, that IP into the PureDB file is ignored, and anyone can connect with that ftp user. Note: when i have edited the PureDB database, i have also recreated the database with the command pure-pw mkdb.... so the database is up to date. I have noticied today because i have added another IP address, and a customer that previously can connect without IP authorization, now can't connect. So, now the IP rule is now working, previously not, without any apparent reason.. That system have Verbose Log setted to yes, but into the logs i have the unauthorized IP with that user, but no signs of software problems or misconfiguration of any type. Now i am trying to recreate the same situation into a similar system, without any success: the IP filter is always working. Anyone have experienced a problem like this and can put me on the right way for the comprension of that strange situation? Any help is well accepted. Cordially, Claudio Prono. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Claudio Prono OPST System Developer Gsm: +39-349-54.33.258 @PSS Srl Tel: +39-011-32.72.100 Via San Bernardino, 17 Fax: +39-011-32.46.497 10141 Torino - ITALY http://atpss.net/disclaimer -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- PGP Key - http://keys.atpss.net/c_prono.asc -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] autoinstall question
by Roger Oberholtzer 09 Feb '11

09 Feb '11

openSUSE 11.2 system I am using the autoyast feature in Yast to make a description of a system that I want to use when installing other systems. I have a question: In the source system, I am using a newer KDE (4.5.5) than on the installation media. If I have the required repos in place in the autoyast.xml file, should the install get the needed RPMs from those repos instead of the DVD I am installing from? I ask because I would not think the network is even up at the time the packages are installed. This is probably true for other packages that are on the reference system: they come from repos other than the install DVD. Is there a good description of how to deal with this when installing from a DVD, and using an autoyast.xml file? An alternative I am also exploring is using kiwi to make an install DVD that contains all the needed packages. I think they would be obtained by kiwi when the install dvd image is made. If I understand the kiwi docs correctly. I have only used kiwi to make diskless openSUSE images that boot over PXE (which is another kettle of fish). All productive suggestions are welcome. Anyone been there and done that? Yours sincerely, Roger Oberholtzer OPQ Systems / Ramböll RST Office: Int +46 10-615 60 20 Mobile: Int +46 70-815 1696 roger.oberholtzer(a)ramboll.se ________________________________________ Ramböll Sverige AB Krukmakargatan 21 P.O. Box 17009 SE-104 62 Stockholm, Sweden www.rambollrst.se -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Can't burn openSUSE 11.4 Milestone 6 DVD
by JC Francois 08 Feb '11

08 Feb '11

Hi, I downloaded openSUSE 11.4 Milestone 6 DVD and tried to burn it to a DVD+R and a DVD+RW with several different tools (K3b, CD Burner XP, growisofs, etc.) without success. The bottom line is that it seems that the image is too big for the disk. The image openSUSE-DVD-Build1034-x86_64.iso is reported to be 4750970880 Bytes. dvd+rw-mediainfo /dev/sr0 reports READ CAPACITY: 2295104*2048=4700372992 So the image is 50,597,888 bytes bigger than the DVD. Is this expected? Can't openSUSE be burned on a DVD+RW or DVD+R? Does it require a dual-layer disk? Or am I just missing something obvious? Thanks, /~jc -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] kdeinit4 run and runs
by C. Brouerius van Nidek 08 Feb '11

08 Feb '11

Do not know what happened to my system but practically 90 % of my cpu is used by kdeinit4 and it will not stop. Is there a metod to let it stop or let it finish what it is trying to do? Want my system back to normal. ;( -- Linux User 183145 using LXDE on a Pentium IV , powered by openSUSE 11.3 (i586) Kernel: 2.6.38-rc3-3-desktop LXDE WM & KDE Development Platform: 4.6.00 (4.6.0) 20:36pm up 0:41, 5 users, load average: 2.19, 2.82, 3.58 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] batik - calls commitment to quality into question (broken since release and still not fixed?)
by David C. Rankin 08 Feb '11

08 Feb '11

openSuSE Devs, batik-1.7-211.2 failed: (with --nodeps --force) Error: Subprocess failed. Error: RPM failed: error: unpacking of archive failed on file /usr/share/batik: cpio: rename failed - Is a directory This has been broken since 11.3 was released..... -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse] Upgrading KDE 4.4 > 4.5 -- was: Graduated from "Absent trash icon" to disaster
by C 07 Feb '11

07 Feb '11

On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 23:56, Stan Goodman wrote: >> 10 Import any GPG keys when asked. > > This is a new thing. It will give me keys, and I only need to d/l them? > What is it that needs to be encrypted? If you've added any additional supported repositories to YaST/zypper in the past several openSUSE releases (eg Community repos), you will have had to import the GPG keys. YaST handles the import process... you only need to click Yes to accept them, or No if you don't trust them. It's pretty safe to trust the keys in this case. >> The install should complete without any issues (assuming you're still >> starting from a clean 11.3 install),. I've tested the steps above >> this evening on a clean 11.3 install, upgrading the default KDE4.4.4 >> to KDE 4.6.0 and there were no issues. > > Clean now? It was installed on new partitions; there have been automatic > updates from the default repos. I've installed a few KDE apps. I guess > it's relatively clean. I'd still call that "clean". An upgrade starts to get messy if you've added lots of extra repos, upgraded several times, added 3rdparty RPMs etc. > I have yet to use activities. Take a look at these two blog entries: http://hanschen.org/2011/02/04/activities-a-change-in-workflow/ http://yuenhoe.co.cc/blog/2011/01/the-rise-of-plasma-activities-and-what-it… Activities may not be for everyone (just like multiple desktops are not for everyone) but as the concept matures, they are becoming much more useful. C. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] 32 to 64 bit
by Bob Rea 07 Feb '11

07 Feb '11

Somewhere in mail I have deleted now, there was a recent discussion about someone moving to 46 from 32, and having to make some corrections to see all the RAM. I can't find it from the subject line in the archives. Might it be resent to me or give me the subject line. I have a friend who needs it. -- "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying the cross." - Sinclair Lewis Bob Rea Norcross GA www.petard.us gapetard(a)stsams.org petard(a)petard.us -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] kde 4.5.5 on openSUSE 11.2 just died after update
by Roger Oberholtzer 07 Feb '11

07 Feb '11

I just updated KDE to 4.5.5 on openSUSE 11.2. I get the kde login screen, and I can log in to other desktops (ice for example). But when I log in to KDE, the screen turns white and then black. I get an arrow cursor. Nothing more. I can restart the X server with the ctrl-backspace sequence. X is running. The cursor moves. I never get the KDE busy cursor one sees when KDE is starting. The repo KDE came from is: http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Release:/45/openSUSE_11.2/ The chipset is an ATI ES1000. It runs as a non 3D chip. Nothing fancy. I forced a reinstall of the packages in this repo. No difference. I tried adding a new user jic. No difference. I see (on a virtual terminal) that many kde apps are running. But I cannot tell if one is 'stuck' or some important one is missing. Of course I am at a remote site with limited time. Could it be any other way? I am sure this is the same release of KDE that I am running on a few other systems (different hardware of course). I did not expect a problem. Where to start? Yours sincerely, Roger Oberholtzer OPQ Systems / Ramböll RST Office: Int +46 10-615 60 20 Mobile: Int +46 70-815 1696 roger.oberholtzer(a)ramboll.se ________________________________________ Ramböll Sverige AB Krukmakargatan 21 P.O. Box 17009 SE-104 62 Stockholm, Sweden www.rambollrst.se -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse] How do I mount USB drive world writable using device notifier?
by Marc Chamberlin 06 Feb '11

06 Feb '11

On 2/6/2011 4:43 AM, Anton Aylward wrote: > Marc Chamberlin said the following on 02/06/2011 12:43 AM: >> Anton, again thanks for your replies and thoughts. I see a bunch of >> replies from you so will try to address each.. As for purpose, I don't >> think that is important, but we are creating a database of old family >> pictures and want to categorize them by placing in different >> sub-directories. (along with other documents) Think about genealogy and >> family trees and you will get the idea. She works on some, I work on >> some.... When I get done with some work, I want to move the updates onto >> her USB drive and this data must be placed in appropriate or new >> directories as needed, and v.s. for her.. And we take our drives with >> us to work with other family members, hence the need for portability... > No, it *is* important because it is what drives your need for the USB. > > I too have family photos, videos, sound recordings. > I archive them to my sever and then burn them onto a CD when I want to > send them (or an update) to other family members. > > Certainly a file server (which could also serve as mail hub, web/wiki, > many other things) is a more sensible approach to "sharing". > > Using FreeNAS would soak up both your NFS and your SAMBA services, and > supply a few other services. An yes it has a GUI for management. > > My problem with your description is the idea that things have to be > moved to the USB right away. The end use of the USB - "carry about" - > is not unreasonable. Using it as a working media does not strike me as > sensible for a number of reasons: speed of access, lack of uniqueness, > and the fact that the media can only take so much use, its not like > rotating magnetic media which can be re-written indefinitely. > > The USB - or in my case the CDs - should be the END POINT of the work. > > I can also see problems with you each working on 'local' copies and > trying to cross update. You need on REFERENCE copy. > > Changing your process will eliminate many of the problems you are > creating for yourself. > > Saying that manually copying to the USB is a PITA just shows you are > hung up on moving the USB to an early point in the process rather than > the end-point which it is. > > Now I know you are going to come up with a pile of "yes, but" responses, > but the trend you are displaying is what might be termed "wallowing in > ignorance". You are headbutting Linux rather than the Ju-Jitsu "go with > the flow", trying to beat it into submission rather than using its > strengths. Your remarks about CLI/GUI illustrate this: the shell is a > very powerful tool and small scripts, one liners, trigger driven actions > and such are part of what Linux is and what makes it so superior to > Windows. If you stay in denial about using them, if you insist that > security is getting in your way rather than making you focus, then you > are going to be beset by "problems" than the rest of us simply don't > encounter. > > In short, you are making life difficult for yourself by not 'going with > the flow". Making everything world writeable, using SAMBA instead of > NFS are illustrations of the technical aspect of this. Anton - I think the time has come for you and I to simply agree to disagree with each other. Like religious argumentation, I think we each have a view that does not comprehend the others. My understanding of your view is that you believe users should be forced into complying with and accomplishing their tasks in the "Linux way", which I don't think is easy to grok and narrow minded. I believe computers should be adaptable, with consistent easy to understand tools and models, that allow the user to easily adapt the tools they see and are familiar with, to new situations. I do NOT understand the reasoning behind having an inconsistent security model that on the one hand easily allows me to set the file/directory permissions such that I can push or pull files across a network to/from internal drives, but am restricted from doing so when it comes to attached external USB drives. Conceptually, for a user, there should be no difference in the security model being used to control access to either type of drive, they simply hold a file system, and the OS has the responsibility to make the security model consistent and transparent to the user. Yes, I probably could follow your suggestions of setting up a staging process for moving files across. We could use a central repository, such as CVS, but then I face the prospect of having to teach my wife, and family members how to use it. (or any other file management system for that matter.) They understand the simple ideas behind cp and mv, drag and drop, how to navigate our network, etc along with the concept of storing data on the external USB drives. Getting my wife, or 75 year old mother to work (who uses Windoz instead, but cannot put anything directly on my USB drive either) with anything more complicated will be asking way too much of them! NOT gonna happen! I came to this mail list seeking a way to solve this permissions problem with external USB drives, in such a way that would allow all of us to continue to use the tools we all understand, while letting this model of file transfer remain transparent and consistent to them. I understand the risks of reducing security, and wouldn't do so IF and WHEN it did NOT block usability. I mitigate this some by doing automatic backups of all our systems, every night, including the attached USB drives if they are attached at the time the backup job is ran. (We use Bacula, and it gets around the issue of assessing USB drives by having a client daemon run locally on each system and only one central server, Since the clients are local processes they can access the local USB drive without any problem, just like a local user can). I don't think my systems are all that messed up either, I just did a fresh install of openSuSE11.3 on two of my systems here, and with just NFS set up, using just the default settings that YaST2 set the NFS server up with, I am still unable to access a USB drive that is connected to these systems, from the other system, across the network. I remain convinced that there is some security setting somewhere that is preventing (write) access to a USB drive from across the network. Why going through a Samba autofs mount point allows read access only when reaching the USB drive, and going though an NFS autofs mount allows neither, is beyond my grok capabilities at the moment.. To me, they both should have just worked and chmod/chown should have been sufficient to handled the settings of access permissions. Simple as that.... IF chmod/chown had worked, then I might look further to see how to add users, coming from other computers, across the network, to a group and further tightened security access. But adding network users to a group is something I have yet to figure out how to do... I appreciate all your time Anton and suggestions. And yes perhaps I am being stubborn, but unless you, or anyone else, can come up with a solution on how to mount USB drives so they can be writable, from across the network, I think it is time to call it a day and we will just continue to live with this problem... Marc... P.S. BTW the Western Digital's "My Passport" USB disk drives ARE rotating magnetic media and NOT flash drives. As such they are just as robust as internal disk drives, very fast, and can perform lots of read/write operations. I even run openSuSE off of an external eSata/USB Seagate drive (it can be either, just requires a different cable/head) and it too is a rotating magnetic media. USB drives are not necessarily flash nor slow any more. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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