May 2006 - openSUSE Users - openSUSE Mailing Lists

Should I sit this one out?
by Lew Wolfgang 31 May '06

31 May '06

Hi Folks, As a loyal SuSE advocate/user since 5.1, and having purchased at least a half-dozen of every boxed set of every release since then, I'm looking at the dialog here for 10.1 and am wondering if I should sit this one out. I don't have enough time to wrestle with a broken distro. What do folks think? Is the boxed set the same as the iso? I tried installing the iso on a dual-Athlon last Thursday and had it totally wedge. I'm sure that in this case it's a hardware problem, but before it went down for the count I noticed that "Update" didn't have anything to update. Also, I saw apt mentioned here. Does this "ZenWorks" replace the old Yast update method? How would one use apt instead of the included update method? Thanks for your input, Lew Wolfgang

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[SLE] Can't connect with USB DSL modem
by Derek J. Carr 31 May '06

31 May '06

Hello, I'm really new to Linux and have just installed OpenSuse 10.1. Most of it seems to be working OK, but I can't get connected with my USB DSL modem. It's a Sagem eagle chipset based modem and I'm trying to connect to Tiscali broadband in the UK. I've installed the modem drivers and they seem to be working OK - the modem lights come on and the /var/log/messages entry seems OK (but i might not be interpreting it correctly). The KInternet log says this: SuSE Meta pppd (smpppd-ifcfg), Version 1.59 on linux-ts86. Status is: disconnected trying to connect to smpppd connect to smpppd Status is: disconnected Status is: lurking pppd[0]: Plugin pppoatm.so loaded. pppd[0]: PPPoATM plugin_init pppd[0]: Plugin passwordfd.so loaded. pppd[0]: PPPoATM setdevname_pppoatm - SUCCESS:0.38 pppd[0]: Renamed interface ppp0 to dsl0 pppd[0]: Using interface dsl0 Status is: lurking pppd[0]: Couldn't increase MTU to 1500 pppd[0]: Couldn't set up demand-dialled PPP interface: Inappropriate ioctl for device Status is: lurking Status is: disconnected pppd[0] died: Fatal pppd error (exit code 1) Does this give anyone a clue to what might be wrong? Do you need any other information? -- -- With best regards, Derek Carr, Birmingham, UK http://alldruid.co.uk/

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RE: [SLE] Hosed root dir
by Black, Alain 31 May '06

31 May '06

> -----Original Message----- > From: Kevin Donnelly [mailto:kevin@dotmon.com] > Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 11:32 AM > To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com > Subject: [SLE] Hosed root dir > > While experimenting with editing video with Kino on 9.3, I moved some > files > and the machine froze. A reboot halted at the GRUB announcement. > Rebooting > into Installation -> Rescue Installed System said sda2 (root dir) and sda7 > (a > data dir) were corrupt, and suggested repairs, which I accepted. It also > said that sda10 (another data dir) had an unknown filesystem on it. All > dirs > on the disk use Reiserfs. However, the app then hung at the stage where > it > attempts to mount fstab dirs. Accessing the system via Rescue System from > the CD allowed me to mount all dirs except sda2 and sda10, and the data on > them *appears* to be OK and accessible. Reiserfsck --check /dev/sda2 just > gives up and says there must be bad blocks on the disk. > > At the minute the most likely option seems to be a reinstall on sda2 > (assuming > that the disk isn't totally kaputt), but that will lose my email and a > couple > of files I'd like to keep, including a small db I forgot to back up. Is > there any option other than this nuclear one? > > Hoping someone can help ... > > Kevin Donnelly > > -- > Check the headers for your unsubscription address > For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help(a)suse.com > Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com > Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq(a)suse.com > [Black, Alain] During the install, you can choose to customize the partitions based on the suggestions. Select "Edit" and uncheck format for the partitions that you don't want to format and make sure the mount options are correct. Another option would be to install a 2nd hard drive in the system, from the recovery console, mount the current data that you want to save, and the new drive and copy the data to the new drive. Good luck, -Alain.

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entering repoview (fwd)
by Christoph Thiel 31 May '06

31 May '06

Forwarding to openSUSE(a)openSUSE.org and openSUSE-factory(a)openSUSE.org, as this might be interesting for this forum as well ;) However, let's try to have any kind of discussion on openSUSE-buildservice(a)openSUSE.org concerning this. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 20:45:13 +0200 (CEST) From: Christoph Thiel <cthiel(a)suse.de> Reply-To: <opensuse-buildservice(a)opensuse.org> To: <opensuse-buildservice(a)opensuse.org> Subject: [opensuse-buildservice] entering repoview Hi everyone, we have enabled repoview to make browsing the repositories more useable. This also introduces RSS feeds for all repos. (Some repos might not have the repoview browsing + rss feeds yet, as they are getting those once they are pushed into software.openSUSE.org and it's mirrors.) To get an idea of how it looks like, refer to [1] for the browsing part and to [2] for the RSS feed. I would like to theme the repoview pages a bit more openSUSE-like, but I'm currently busy with other stuff. So, if there is anyone who would like to work on the repoview template, please speak up now! The openSUSE.org wiki or the brand-new build.openSUSE.org theming offer all the stuff that you need, in terms of colors. The repoview package is available from my home project in the openSUSE Build Service (at [3]). Regards Christoph [1] http://software.opensuse.org/download/repositories/home:/cthiel1/Factory/re… [2] http://software.opensuse.org/download/repositories/home:/cthiel1/Factory/re… [3] http://software.opensuse.org/download/repositories/home:/cthiel1/

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10.1 package management
by Chris Herrnberger 31 May '06

31 May '06

Greets; Was wondering if someone can provide some advise. The package management system seems to have changed in 10.1 The issue is that when I load my standard install sources, an error message always comes back that claims another process is accessing the rpm data base. This must be Novells package management system. Currently running the stock gnome desktop to test it but this is rather annoying with yast as its my preferred method. Is there a work a round to this issue or has anyone else noticed the same issue? Best regards and thanks -- Chris H.

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Re: [SLE] digital cameras
by Kai Ponte 31 May '06

31 May '06

> On Wed, May 31, 2006 at 04:51:38PM +0100, Kevanf1 wrote: > > On 31/05/06, Fergus Wilde <fwilde(a)chethams.org.uk> wrote: > > >On Tuesday 30 May 2006 21:33, Carl William Spitzer IV wrote: > > >> is there a site where I can review these things compare features or > > >lack > > >> thereof. > > >> > > >> I want things like focal length, fstop, shutter speeds etc. Otherwise > > >> Ill use www.photoworks.com and a real camera. > > > > > >You could try www.dpreview.com , that's fairly well respected. I've used > > >a > > >Nikon D70 with considerable success, if you want a recommendation for a > > >digital SLR, and the D50 and D70s are also well thought of. If you want a > > >really small point-and-shoot, take a look at the Casio range, which do > > >quite > > >a lot of what 'real' cameras do in a very small space. > > > > > >HTH > > >Fergus > > >> > > > > :-)))))) I'm in the process of saving my pennies for a Nikon D50 :-) > > I take it that it works fine in Linux then? > > Yes. Yeah, my mom has some uber-expensive digital SLR for her work. She just simply plugs the camera in and it shows up on Konqueror. I've taught her how to cut and paste the files over to her hard drive. She's then learned how to make a CD of the files using K3B. Now if I can only teach her CUPS admin functions for when her printer messes up.... ...nevermind, that's hopeless. -- k

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RE: Re: [SLE] And another 10.1 showstopper
by Marlier, Ian 31 May '06

31 May '06

> -----Original Message----- > From: Per Jessen [mailto:per@computer.org] > Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 10:00 AM > To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com > Subject: Re: [SLE] And another 10.1 showstopper > > Ken Schneider wrote: > > > It may turn out that there will no longer be any "SUSE" kernels and > > there will only be the ones released by the kernel devs. > > I believe that is exactly the SUSE plan. With 10.0 and 10.1 they've > already cut way back on the SUSE-specific patches. > And a big WOOHOO! for that... For those who use SuSE -- not SLES -- in a business/mission-critical context, the more standard the kernel gets, the happier we are... Definitely a move in the right direction.

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RE: [SLE] No Choice of Mirrors in New YaST
by mlist＠safenet-inc.com 31 May '06

31 May '06

> -----Original Message----- > From: Marcus Meissner [mailto:meissner@suse.de] > Sent: May 25, 2006 2:28 PM > To: Greg Wallace > Cc: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com > Subject: Re: [SLE] No Choice of Mirrors in New YaST > > > On Thu, May 25, 2006 at 01:22:24PM -0500, Greg Wallace wrote: > > I just wrote: > > > > >I know there have been a lot of discussions about problems > related to YaST, > > >Zen, etc., and maybe this was also discussed earlier, but > I don't recall > > >it. Anyway, in 10.0, when I ran YOU, the first screen > that came up gave me > > >a choice of mirrors. Now, that screen is completely > bypassed and YaST uses > > >some default. I tried looking at some of the other > options under Software. > > >Online Update Setup seems to only be talking about > automatic updating. > > >Online Update Configuration doesn't have anything to do > with selecting > > >mirrors either. Has this option been completely eliminated? > > > > >Thanks, > > >Greg Wallace > > > > Now I see that Online Update Configuration does pick a > mirror for you, but > > it doesn't allow you to do any selecting. > > You can change it in the Installation Sources dialog. > > (However you have to look up a mirror near you yourself.) I seem to be missing something, then. I started YaST (10.1 fresh install from the boxed set CDs) and fired up YOU. YOU trundled for a while then said no patches available. This is a bit odd, given that 10.1 has been out for a few weeks. So, still in YaST, I invoke "Configure Online Update". It starts a big dialoge with "Help" down the left side and five checkable items in the middle of the big right-side pane: Configure later Configure now (recommended) Hardware profile Optional information Registration code I click It eventually comes back with "Online Update Configuration Your configuration was successful An update server has been added to your configuration" If I click "Details" it replies: http://mirror.mcs.anl.gov/suse/update/10.1/ The only thing I can do to that selection is "OK" it. There's no dialog option to type over it or to browse for another mirror. Then I finish the main dialog, go back to run YOU, and it still reports No Patches Available. Well, I have a mirror, and it has now been checked against the current installed package list in my system and found to have no updates. Cool. Thus, I conclude that SuSE 10.1 retail CD edition, including the hundreds of apps that I installed, is incredibly secure, and still does not need any security patches or fixes. Wow. On all my previous purchases/installs of SuSE, YOU has provided several patches per week... at least... starting from Day 1. When I installed, I left out Xen and sources and a lot of the developer stuff, but I included almost everything else. You'd think that one of those many, many hundreds of packages would have shown a vulnerability by now. Hell, apache always has something to apologize for... But I guess not. SuSE YOU says I'm perfectly up-to-date. How much should I trust this cozy feeling of security? What is it that I'm SUPPOSED to be doing? Also, where _is_ the part of the dialog where you can change the selection of mirror that YaST has set. Kevin (uneasy in Ottawa, Canada) The information contained in this electronic mail transmission may be privileged and confidential, and therefore, protected from disclosure. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to this message and deleting it from your computer without copying or disclosing it.

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irqbalance question on openSuSE 10.1
by Rui Santos 31 May '06

31 May '06

Hi, From the Description of irqbalance, it is supposed to balance IRQ activity between two or more processors. On /etc/init.d/irq_balancer LINE 41 there is the following line if [ $PHYS -gt 1 -o $ $PROC -gt 1 -a $PHYS -eq 0 $ ] ; then witch explicitly states that the $PHYS variable has to be greater then one. This means that there has to be two physical processors, and the daemon will not load if the computer has either a Hyper-Threading or Dual-Core CPU. I'm sure that SuSE folks dis this on purpose but, is it possible to someone to tell me why irqbalance will not work on this CPU's, specially on a Dual-Core System ? I've done a goggling on the subject and find nothing substantial on this subject. My system is a Dual-Core Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU 3.20GHz Thanks for your time -- Rui Santos http://www.ruisantos.com/ They that would give up essential liberty for temporary safety deserve neither one of them.

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Upgrade Hard Drive - hda
by Jim Flanagan 31 May '06

31 May '06

Hi all, I currently have a 9.3 box with 3 drives installed, hda (windows98), hdb (suse 9.1) and sda (suse 9.3) which is my default and almost always used boot. I want to ditch the hda drive, and either add a new drive in its place, or just use the current hdb drive. Three questions. 1. What is the best / easiest way to move or copy my current grub from the current hda to the new drive? 2. If I use my existing hdb, do I need to configure it to hda, or will it work as is? 3. Can I add another SATA drive (the sda is a SATA) and do away with the 2 IDE drives altogether? Many thanks, Jim F

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