January 2006 - openSUSE Users - openSUSE Mailing Lists

Re: [opensuse] Re: Distributing OpenSUSE vmware image containing non GPLed packages
by Ken Schneider 30 Jan '06

30 Jan '06

On Tue, 2006-01-31 at 00:55 +0530, Shriramana Sharma wrote: > Offlist. Please do not take discussions off list unless asked. > > > I did not mean for my answer to seem so harsh. > > That's all right then. > > > started. And yes you can mount an existing partition (not virtual) in a > > VMware virtual machine but I would not recommend doing so to a partition > > already mounted by the host system. > > Well the VMWare Player runs on Windows XP and Win XP certainly does not mount > my SUSE reiserfs partitions. So can I please know the procedure to mount my > SUSE reiserfs partitions on the virtual machine -- if I'm not taking too much > of your time? If the virtual machine is running XP you will have to ask someone from a XP mailing list, as far as I know it is not possible. Blame M$ not linux. If wanting to mount a partition from a host system running linux in a virtual machine running linux you need to do that will the virtual machine setup dialog while the VM is not running. > > > If you are referring to MS windows > > style shares you can create shares in linux (using samba) to share with > > your windows machines and vice-versa. > > I am totally ignorant of this kind of "shares", except when long time back I > did some small Windows networking at my school when I was "sysadmin". > Then -you- need to do some research on the internet, perhaps http://www.samba.org would be a good place to start. Unless you do some of the work yourself first you will find very few people that will want to keep spoon feeding you. -- Ken Schneider UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998

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"netstat -M", only for iptables/NAT
by John Grant 30 Jan '06

30 Jan '06

Anyone know a way to list the NAT connections through an iptables setup? Back when I was running ipchains/masq I could use "netstat - M" to get what I wanted. Now that just gives me a "no support for `ip_masquerade' on this system". What's the iptables/nat equivalent? thanks, -John

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Re: [SLE] mp3
by Kai Ponte 30 Jan '06

30 Jan '06

> > Hi, can someone sudjest me a MP3 ripper for suse 10.0 No problem... http://www.perfectreign.com/modules/articles/article.php?id=12 ...though I'd highly recommend using ogg and not that pathetic mp3 format. -- kai ponte www.perfectreign.com linux - genuine windows replacement part

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Problem with Etherlink III
by Gordon Keehn 30 Jan '06

30 Jan '06

Hi, I recently installed SuSE Linux Professional 10 on an old IBM Aptiva with an even older 3Com Etherlink III card. The card was detected during the installation and works fine once it is started, but even though I specified that it be started on boot, I have to go into YaST after each reboot and start it manually. Since there is new construction going on in our neighborhood, brief power outages are the rule lately, so this is becoming annoying. Is there any way to insure that the interface is started automatically? (Or does anyone have a script that would do the deed without having to fire up YaST?) Thanks in advance, Gordon Keehn

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www.opensuse.org wiki maintainence
by Adrian Schröter 30 Jan '06

30 Jan '06

Hi, we are about to upgrade the wiki running www.opensuse.org within the next hours. This means that it will become read only soon for some hours. The browsing should be still possible most of the time. We do a version upgrade of the wiki to prepare the german, french and spain wikis. Additional goals are the import of the SDB and changed copyright footer (finaly !). bye adrian -- Adrian Schroeter SUSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nuernberg, Germany email: adrian(a)suse.de

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Re: OpenSUSE Forum Discussion
by Joseph M. Gaffney 30 Jan '06

30 Jan '06

I contacted Damian at SUSE root, one of the best known sites out there for unofficial SUSE support and information. The following is his reply to my asking for his input. On Friday 27 January 2006 15:35, you wrote: > Hi Joseph, > Thanks for taking the time to ask my opinion about this. > > I personally hate mailing lists, the only one I subscribe to is my local > LUG and I only read it, never post. Of course, I know there are plenty > of people who despise Forums, and greatly prefer mailing lists. Having > said that, I do not think there should be an "Official" openSUSE Forum. > I think it's too bad that there are two very popular unofficial SUSE > forums because it is divisive to the community, and I personally don't > see enough difference between them to make it worth splitting up the > resources (kind, patient, and knowledgeable people who don't mind > fielding questions from new SUSE users are in short supply), but they > are both good forums and serve their purposes and the community well. > > I read the notes from the mailing list discussion on this topic you > linked to and I think they are all good points. However, the most > persuasive for me is Pascal's "legal gray zone" argument about some > things not needing to be on Official Novell virtual web space, but being > valuable discussions, nonetheless. Additionally, just because Novell > "Sponsors" the openSUSE project, it is still a community project; Novell > doesn't need to put an Official "stamp" on everything in the community. > As much as us "little people" appreciate Novell and SUSE's fantastic > work and support, I think many can agree that the whole community > doesn't need to be under the thumb of any company. I think it's best to > find a balance between corporate and independent involvement in this > case. These two forums have spent a lot of time on their respective > sites and have a lot of experience running their forums, let them > continue to do it. Maybe there's a hack to have the mailing list posts > piped into a closed section of the forums, RSS-style, to keep the forums > abreast of the lists. > > I'm sure there are plenty of people who are members of SUSEForums.net, > SUSELinuxSupport.de, and the openSUSE mailing lists who enjoy having > each. I wonder if it would be possible to find a representative who is > willing to keep an eye out for the Forum threads mentioned by Houghi > where potential bugs/problems may be found and discussed on the forums, > but never make it to the mailing lists. Perhaps the owners of the two > forums would be willing to make such a representative a moderator so > they can have a little control over such topics. > > Again, I think my suggestion is less than ideal because there are two > popular "competing" forums. I maintain some hope that they will combine > again at some point and would encourage any efforts to that end, but > from what I've read from their respective leadership, this seems unlikely. > > Anyway, for what it's worth, that's my opinion. Feel free to do > whatever you want with this email, post it to the list, summarize it, > disregard it. > > Thanks again! > > -Damian Joseph M. Gaffney aka CuCullin

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Analysis of forum use of other Linux Distros.
by Peter Flodin 30 Jan '06

30 Jan '06

Gentoo: http://forums.gentoo.org/ Posts: 3,005,617 Registered Users: 105,423 Users online: 235 Ubuntu: http://ubuntuforums.org Posts: 680,568 Registered users: 68,264 Users online: 706 Fedora: http://forums.fedoraforums.org Posts: 621,755 Registered Users: 60,167 Users Online: 4402 I will just state again, that people who talk about gateways etc between mailing lists and the web forum, haven't got full comprehension of what a successful web forum is about. There is no reason that an openSUSE web forum will not rival any of the above in terms of usage. And does anybody who thinks that the mailing lists on these other distros are non-functioning because they have successful web forums? Of course not.

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KOTD 2.6.16_rc1_git3-20060128210603-default missing rt2500 support
by Phil Stopford 30 Jan '06

30 Jan '06

Installing this on a fresh, shiny SUSE 10.0 installation fails to bring up the rt2500 PCMCIA/Cardbus wireless card. The default 2.6.13-15 installation kernel has this module brings up the card just fine. Contents of /lib/modules/`uname -r`/extra for 2.6.13-15 shows rt2500.ko, but the 2.6.16(blah) extras folder shows : rt2500pci.ko rt2500usb.ko rt2x00core.ko None of these bring the card up when modprobed. Any ideas or suggestions would be welcome. I thought I would ask here in case a bug report is not required; I'm happy to compile the rt2500 drivers from sourceforge in the meantime. Many thanks, Phil Stopford.

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Short Summary on Forum and Linux-Club
by Johannes Kastl 30 Jan '06

30 Jan '06

Hello, the discussion on linux-club.de is going on, and I am trying to get everything clear and understandable, but as I feared a lot of people get things wrong or understand the things different. here is a quick summary: - "Most of them" seem not to care if there is another forum - "Most of them" wont register on forum.opensuse.org, and will stay at linux-club.de - "Most of them" would accept making LC the official german forum. I understand the guys, as there are a lot of other subforums, regarding Debian etc., and some feared not to be allowed to talk about mp3 or DVD (legal issues). Just a short Summary, Ill keep you informed. OJ -- "The United States of America is the only empire in history to have gone from Barbarism directly to Decadence, without any intervening period of Civilisation." (Oscar Wilde)

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copy-paste clarification
by vince＠complex.elte.hu 30 Jan '06

30 Jan '06

hi, Sorry, the question was not quite clear. I would like to find out is it possibble to copy-paste on relation Midnight Commander and other editor (Vi for example)? I hope my english is going to be improved soon :) Oliver

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