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[SuSE Linux] Crontab !!!PLEASE HELP!!!
by bse＠games.global.co.za 02 Jun '99

02 Jun '99

Hello. I have created a perl script that must run every so often. The Mail I get is "/bin/sh couldn't run perl-script" The cron seems to run everything with /bin/sh I simply changed my rather simple script to accomodate this. I have some "heavy-duty" perl scripts that will be cron'd quite soon (today/tomorrow) Will changing the following in /etc/crontab work? SHELL=/bin/sh to: SHELL=/bin/bash or will my cron'd perl scripts still not work? -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the archive at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>>

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Re: [SuSE Linux] SuSE has updated boxed 6.1 set 2.2.5 -> 2.2.7
by jl-lists＠jatek.net 02 Jun '99

02 Jun '99

J Sherman & M Kerns wrote: > Quite frankly, this annoys me quite a bit. I expect SuSE to support > their distributions using some sort of structured process, i.e. posted > updates and numbered releases. To hear about a release numbered the > same as the one I bought with different packages and a different > kernel and no updates yet posted on their web site is not what I call > support. Actually, I feel somewhat cheated. What I feel is that I can't use the distribution. It raises too many support issues that with upwards of 100 colocated and rented servers I just can't afford to consider. Shame Jeff -- Jeff Lasman <jl-lists(a)jatek.net>, Internet Products Manager, Jatek Corp. Main office: Tel: (310) 375-7646 Fax: (310) 375-0892 Internet Products: Tel: (909) 787-8589 Fax: (909) 782-0205 24hr Internet Products Support: Tel: (909) 787-8589 Fax: (909) 782-0205 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the archive at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>>

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Re: [SuSE Linux] SuSE has updated boxed 6.1 set 2.2.5 -> 2.2.7
by kukuk＠suse.de 02 Jun '99

02 Jun '99

On Mon, May 31, Bill C Riemers wrote: > > J Sherman & M Kerns wrote: > > > > On Mon, 31 May 1999 10:17:39 -0400, you wrote: > > > > > > > >As SuSE has said many times, they continue to put in bug fixes and such > > >after shipping the German version. Obvisously reprinting the boxes > > >would be cost prohibitive. It is also a common practice in the software > > >and hardware industry, commonly referred to as "slipstreaming". The > > >software package you buy today might be version 1.X while if you buy it > > >a month later is might be 1.X.1 with no package change. > > Not quite true. I haven't seen very few software distributors, who don't > at least put a sticker or such on the box. But Gee, stickers that said > 6.1.X would probably cost way too much. Perhaps a black marker would > do. Who makes that ? Not RedHat, not Debian, not Sun with all Versions of Solaris, ... > > > I'm sorry to sound so peevish, but I have been in the software > > business for nearly 30 years and we would have called this kernel > > change 6.1.1. Their philosophy of release notation makes no sense to > > me. It doesn't always require a manual change and it would not cost a > > great deal to post the changes which were made, whatever they were. > > Again agreed. It just makes things so darn confusing. How does the > installation support person even know what kernel I referencing when > I say it crashes at the PCI initialization? Obviously he doesn't, > because I certainly never though I would have to specify the kernel > version in the boot floppy mailed to me if I already specified the > release version. You don't need that. For support, you need the Reg.Code. This code tell us all we need. Thorsten -- Thorsten Kukuk <A HREF="http://www.suse.de/~kukuk/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.de/~kukuk/</A">http://www.suse.de/~kukuk/</A</A>> kukuk(a)suse.de SuSE GmbH Schanzaeckerstr. 10 90443 Nuernberg Linux is like a Vorlon. It is incredibly powerful, gives terse, cryptic answers and has a lot of things going on in the background. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the archive at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>>

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Re: [SuSE Linux] SuSE support does not function
by jl-lists＠jatek.net 02 Jun '99

02 Jun '99

Andrew wrote: > Until a month ago I was happy with Red Hat's package until they > boosted the price making it as expensive as Microsoft Windows. Red Hat raised the price for the package called "Official Red Hat Linux 6.0"; it's now us$79.95 at Fry's. The reason for the higher price is that telephone support is now included. I've not had to call it, so I can't vouch for the quality of that support. Red Hat also publishes "Red Hat Linux Core 6.0" which retails for us$39.95; it's not available yet. It includes the two CDs and the Installation manual. It does not include a boot floppy (but does include instructions on how to make them), or the applications CDRom, or the new "Getting Started Guide", which is included in the "Official" package and which seems to be not much more than a Gnome manual; useless for me since I don't run anything "X". The new "Core" distribution is less expensive than the standard 5.2 distribution, and except for the applications CD-ROM, which I've _never_ loaded, has all the same stuff. It's just not out yet. But you can also get it for us$1.99 from <www.cheapbytes.com>. My reason for looking elsewhere from Red Hat is that more and more they're presuming a desktop running X in all their defaults, books, etc. We run Internet servers. We don't run "X". I've used Slackware, but want to try SuSE. > I am aware that linux support > is fairly new and that it will be awhile until they generate a proper > database to answer such questions that I have; I am still wondering around > in the dark. It's a fact of life you can't expect the same level of tech support for us$200 Windows as you can for us$40 Linux. (Well, you can expect it <smile>, but you'll be disappointed.) And if you're like me you realize that if Linux were twice the price of Windows instead of anywhere between free and one-fourth the price, it'd still be a better buy <grin>! Jeff -- Jeff Lasman <jl-lists(a)jatek.net>, Internet Products Manager, Jatek Corp. Main office: Tel: (310) 375-7646 Fax: (310) 375-0892 Internet Products: Tel: (909) 787-8589 Fax: (909) 782-0205 24hr Internet Products Support: Tel: (909) 787-8589 Fax: (909) 782-0205 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the archive at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>>

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Re: [SuSE Linux] 2.2.5 ->2.2.9
by skoper＠mediaone.net 02 Jun '99

02 Jun '99

Yeah, I bought 6.0, and then updated the kernel to 2.2.5. Everything works fine (so far as I know). Now I'm wondering if it's even worth bothering upgrading to 6.1, or upgrading the kernel beyond 2.2.5. Certainly 2.2.7 didn't seem to have any vital changes. Stan Koper -----Original Message----- From: Graham Murray <graham(a)barnowl.demon.co.uk> To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com <suse-linux-e(a)suse.com> Date: Tuesday, June 01, 1999 2:46 AM Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] 2.2.5 ->2.2.9 > >lunaslide <lunaslide(a)pacbell.net> writes: > >> Remember to comment out the lines in /sbin/init.d/boot that start >> "update (bdflush)" Since 2.2.8(?), this daemon is no longer necessary. > >NO!! do NOT do that for kernel 2.2.9! > >It was because the code in 2.2.8 which did this had serious bugs, >which could cause filesytem corruption, that 2.2.9 came out so quickly >after 2.2.8. 2.2.9 no longer has this "feature", so you should still >be running the update daemon. >-- >To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with >this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e >Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the >archive at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the archive at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>>

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Re: [SuSE Linux] A request for this list. . .
by jl-lists＠jatek.net 02 Jun '99

02 Jun '99

Jon Pennington wrote: > The search feature on the English home page searches the list archives, too. Now that we've got that clear, do you know which search engine is used? And how it's implemented? I've got a huge majordomo archive I need to create both a web-interface AND a search engine for... And all help with what actually works for someone will be greatly appreciated! Jeff -- Jeff Lasman <jl-lists(a)jatek.net>, Internet Products Manager, Jatek Corp. Main office: Tel: (310) 375-7646 Fax: (310) 375-0892 Internet Products: Tel: (909) 787-8589 Fax: (909) 782-0205 24hr Internet Products Support: Tel: (909) 787-8589 Fax: (909) 782-0205 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the archive at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>>

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Re: [SuSE Linux] nonzero exit status (7) on .. route add xx metric 1
by rclark＠virgosolutions.demon.co.uk 02 Jun '99

02 Jun '99

Michael Doerner wrote: > Thanks to all who replied to my question about diald problems. > Ralph, it would be very nice if you let me know about your progress with > Suse-support there. SuSE support waved me off with the excuse that I was running an unsupported kernel. Grr! See my other post in the kernel update thread... > SuSE's change to wvdial with SuSE 6.1 seems to make most of the confusion > for me. > > wvdial, kppp, and whatever other packages you can use for Internet dialup > might be fine but for all of my understanding, none of these packages > supports an *automatic dial on demand* which is needed on an Internet > gateway PC, running without any operator intervention (hopefully an expert > here on this list proves me wrong, please...) pppd can now handle automatic dialling but it doesn't do packet filtering which you need to keep you sane...;o) > What is SuSE's proposal for this (gateway) scenario? There exactly IS > already a commercial market where Linux boxes are used in small&medium sized > companies as an Internet gateway for all LAN-PCs. > Does the move to wvdial mean that they are focusing on the workstation > solutions with single dialup access? Here in New Zealand, Redhat seems to be > the typical package in companies with exactly the Internet gateway > functionality. I'd like to know the answer to that too. If it's true, they're ignoring the fact that - presently at least - many Linux users use or wish to use their Linux machine as an internet gateway for one or two Windows machines. -- rclark(a)virgosolutions.demon.co.uk Ralph Clark, Virgo Solutions Ltd (UK) __ _ / / (_)__ __ ____ __ * Powerful * Flexible * Compatible * Reliable * / /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / *Well Supported * Thousands of New Users Every Day* /____/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ The Cost Effective Choice - Linux Means Business! -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the archive at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>>

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[SuSE Linux] KDE 1.1.1 - Upgrade or Not?
by ktalley＠edge.net 02 Jun '99

02 Jun '99

Greetings.... Okay, there has been considerable "back and forth" on this one, but what is the verdict? If I download the KDE directories (kde1,kde2,kde4,kpa1,etc.) from ftp.suse.com (/pub/suse_update/KDE/1.1.1-with-qt-1.44) TODAY, and if I want to install them over a fresh SuSE 6.1 install (with the 2.2.5 kernel), what should I do? Do I uninstall all KDE packages, and install these new ones? Or can I simply now upgrade my existing KDE packages? Any other potential problems I should know about? Thanks.. Kevin Talley (ktalley(a)edge.net) -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the archive at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>>

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Re: [SuSE Linux] printer
by jl-lists＠jatek.net 02 Jun '99

02 Jun '99

David Erdman wrote: > > Hi. I have an NEC 860 laser printer (installed in apsfilter as an hp lpplus), > though not great...is working at 300 dpi with linux. the printer seems to > work with say for instance..printing with netscape, or staroffice. but when > printing with lpr, everything prints sideways. could someone help with this? > Is there a configuration i need to add to apsfilter, or a command line option > i didnt see in the man page. I'm responding very generally, and from memory, from conversations I had with NEC tech support before deciding to NOT buy the 860. I apologize if any innacuracies creep into this reply: The NEC 860 (and in fact, more printers than you can count) rely on drivers added to Microsoft Win/NT/9x to give it much of it's functionality. It's at least functional (many HP printers are not). But the version of PCL in its firmware is not the most recent. It only offers 300 dpi. And doesn't include too many fonts either, although that's usually not a problem; if you need fonts you're generally using a driver that knows how to download them. The reason your printer is printing in landscape mode is most likely because that's its power-on default. Why? I have no idea. Can it be changed? Likewise no idea. Ask NEC tech support. Alternatively, get a copy of the codes for PCL (someone with an old HP printer may have this for you; I know that you can get it via faxback from HP but I can't find the document number at this time) and create a file with those codes in it; then either append it to the beginning of each file you send via lpr, or just send it separately before sending any other files. Years ago I wrote (for the first HP Laserjet) a small (CP/M) program called HPRINT which allowed you to specify what you wanted on a command line; I did rewrite it for DOS, but I don't have it now. I suppose I could write something again if there's enough interest. It worked something like this: > hprint cp would put your printer into compressed portrait mode. I hope this helps; I'm an old-timer with computers, having started in the 60s, and with Linux, having run a webhosting company with kernel v0.99, but I'm an absolute newbie with SuSE; I've just bought SuSE 6.1 while waiting for a Red Hat 6.0 that I'd ordered to arrive directly from Red Hat. Red Hat 6.0 costs us$79; SuSE 6.1 was us$29 (at Fry's, in So. Calif.); at the price, I think SuSE is a much better buy, and comes with a lot more software. I'll try it this week. Jeff -- Jeff Lasman <jl-lists(a)jatek.net>, Internet Products Manager, Jatek Corp. Main office: Tel: (310) 375-7646 Fax: (310) 375-0892 Internet Products: Tel: (909) 787-8589 Fax: (909) 782-0205 24hr Internet Products Support: Tel: (909) 787-8589 Fax: (909) 782-0205 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the archive at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>>

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[SuSE Linux] xkbcomp problem
by mezger＠surfree.com 02 Jun '99

02 Jun '99

After compiling X from the source (xf86_spm) I am unable to use the backspace key in X (and a few other oddities). I figured out that i am missing xkbcomp. Is this located in a different package? The funny thing is that i do have the man page for xkbcomp. Am I going to have to recompile? That would be a pain for such a small file. thanks, rimez -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the archive at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>>

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