January 2009 - openSUSE Users - openSUSE Mailing Lists

Re: [opensuse] Installing 11.1 to Unused Partition From Running System?
by Randall R Schulz 07 Jan '09

07 Jan '09

On Tuesday 06 January 2009 14:15, Greg Freemyer wrote: > On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 2:06 PM, Randall R Schulz <rschulz(a)sonic.net> wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I was wondering if it's feasible (if at all possible) to perform an > > openSUSE 11.1 installation to an unused partition on my existing > > 10.0 system while it (the 10.0 system) is running? > > I've never tried, but if you're willing to experiment: > > Get a VM running based on that empty partition. (Don't use a > paravirtualized VM.) Ha! I should have thought of that. Why not paravirtualized? Which is VMware? > Boot the install DVD in that VM. Install. > > Edit your /etc/fstab in the VM to be correct for a native boot, if > you want to use the same /home directory and swap partition, fix > those up as well. I usually choose to mount volumes by label, thought I'm thinking of switching to by-ID. > Edit the grub menu on your 10.0 system to have an entry for the new > partition. > > Reboot. > > > Good Luck > Greg Thanks for the idea. Randall Schulz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] KDE4 performance tip
by Amedee Van Gasse 07 Jan '09

07 Jan '09

I have a performance tip that I would like to share. I noticed that something called nepomuk was eating 80% of my cpu, and it was also eating a lot of ram. Nepomuk is (as far as google can tell me) a backend for the strigi desktop search. If you're a bit like me, you have no use for a frakkin' desktop search like strigi or beagle. All my data is well organized. Read about "Inbox Zero" and "The Hamster Revolution" - everything about organizing email can also be applied to every other kind of user data. The bad thing for me was that strigi is enabled by default. I disabled it in Configure Desktop -> Advanced -> Nepomuk. Then I uninstalled strigi. I'm not going to report this somewhere as a bug, because then I'll have the userfriendly police on my back. Imho the ubiquitous usage of desktop search is a Bad Thing(tm). It's like a junior DBA who has read his first book about database optimization and says, hey let's just index everything! While the *real* DBA knows that a well designed database is a better and faster database. You don't index everything, you just index where you need it and where it's useful. Same thing about desktop search, I don't want it to index my /home. Sorry, I'm getting off my soapbox now :) -- Amedee -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] XAA perfoms better than EXA but has bugs (Intel graphic card)
by Xavier Callejas 06 Jan '09

06 Jan '09

Hi, By default openSUSE 11.1 brings Xorg using EXA as accel. method. I have a Thinkpad T61 with an: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 0c) Always after I enter my password in KDM to login the screen shows a "visual noise", and also sometimes. But worst of all I find the performance lower than when I configure it to use XAA. So I change back to XAA in xorg.conf but the problem is that I cannot use suspend/hibernate if the Xorg is running with XAA (the active graphic desktop session crash returning to KDM after resume from suspend/hibernate); and sometimes I have experimented complete hangs (I think caused by XAA because they don't happend with EXA). The performance with XAA is much much better than EXA, but I must hope hangs and to disable suspend/hibernate if I want to use it (fact that I can't consider). https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=462872 Section "Device" BoardName "965 GM" Driver "intel" Identifier "Device[0]" Option "XVideo" Option "DRI" Option "PageFlip" Option "TripleBuffer" # Option "AccelMethod" "XAA" Option "Tiling" Option "XVideo" Option "XaaNoOffscreenPixmaps" Option "FramebufferCompression" Option "SaXDualHead" Option "SaXDualMonitorVendor" "--> VESA" Option "SaXDualOrientation" "LeftOf" Option "SaXDualResolution" "1024x768" Option "SaXDualMode" "Clone" Option "SaXDualHSync" "31-50" Option "SaXDualMonitorModel" "1024X768@60HZ" Option "SaXDualVSync" "50-60" Option "SaXExternal" "Identifier&EXT+DisplaySize&+VendorName&--> VESA+PreferredMode&1024x768+HorizSync&31-50+ModelName&1024X768@60HZ+VertRefresh&50-60" Screen 0 VendorName "Intel" EndSection Complete hardware profile: http://www.smolts.org/show?uuid=pub_3e1fcbe3-10de-4e3e-8bbd-47f1a8e572e8 rgds. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] openSUSE Weekly News, Issue 53
by Jan-Simon Möller 06 Jan '09

06 Jan '09

We are pleased to announce: Issue 53 of openSUSE Weekly News is out! [0] In this week's issue: * Masim Sugianto: First Hackfest for Indonesian openSUSE Community * How to Make openSUSE 11.1 LiveUSB * Joe Brockmeier: openSUSE - One of the 10 coolest of 2008 * Marek Stopka: Fatrat - Nice download manager in OBS… * Howto-How to compile the new Kernel 2.6.28? The openSUSE Weekly News is also available in: German [1] (delay), Indonesian [2], Japanese [3], Polish [4], Portuguese [5], Russian [6] (delay) and Spanish [7]. [0] http://en.opensuse.org/OpenSUSE_Weekly_News/53 [1] http://de.opensuse.org/OpenSUSE-Wochenschau/53 [2] http://en.opensuse.org/OpenSUSE_Weekly_News/53/indonesian [3] http://ja.opensuse.org/OpenSUSE_Weekly_News/53 [4] http://pl.opensuse.org/Tygodnik_openSUSE/53 [5] http://pt.opensuse.org/Notícias_da_semana_no_openSUSE/53 [6] http://ru.opensuse.org/Еженедельные_новости_openSUSE/53 [7] http://es.opensuse.org/OpenSUSE_Weekly_News/53 New: Short version in Hungarian [8] . [8] http://hu.opensuse.org/OpenSUSE_Heti_H%C3%ADrmond%C3%B3/53 Have a lot of fun! -- Jan-Simon Möller -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Fink for OpenSuSE?
by j debert 06 Jan '09

06 Jan '09

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Macs have Fink, Linux has nothing to build and install packages from source. Has anyone run into a Fink-alike for SuSE? (or Linux in general?) == jd For some reason a glaze passes over people's faces when you say "Canada". Maybe we should invade South Dakota or something. ~ -- Sandra Gotlieb, wife of the Canadian ambassador to ~ the U.S. - -- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFJXke/hpL3F+HeDrIRAuBEAJ4m/EpUEM1vZ6mjoehT0hH9ob3fFgCgnefJ eHbfG1T8MZffUTkuyffo3pQ= =gBbS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Powerdevil...it's quite a little devil
by Joop Beris 06 Jan '09

06 Jan '09

Hello listmates, Well, as the subject says, powerdevil is quite a little devil, in the sense that it doesn't power off my monitors. I have two monitors hooked up to a NVidia 8600 GT, which runs rather nicely. The screensaver does get started, but powerdevil doesn't kick in. At first, when I wanted to configure powerdevil through the Personal Settings > Advanced > Power management, it complained about another power manager running. After some googling, I found that I needed to disable powersaved to be able to configure it. So I disabled powersaved from starting and made sure it's not running now. Powerdevil is configured to stand by my screens after 10 minutes, and power them off after 60, but nothing happens. I can't find anyting in my log files about a malfunction, it just doesn't work. I am up to date with all patches. Any suggestions what to do? Joop -- "When you just want a system that works, you choose Linux; when you want a system that just works, you choose Microsoft."

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[opensuse] Installing Firefox 3 in openSuSE v10.3 x86_64
by Stan Goodman 06 Jan '09

06 Jan '09

I am now running Firefox v2.0.0.18 (x86_64). I tried to use YaST to install Firefox v3.0.5 (x86_64) -- which is the current release that YaST shows me. The repository that I have been given is: <http://downloads.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE_10.3/ia64>. The YsST Package Installation window comes up; while the progress indicator is still at 0%, the Package Installation window collapses, and nothing is done. I went to the URL given above. What I found there is in fact a whole list of repositories, as follows: ***** Index of /repositories/mozilla/openSUSE_10.3/ia64 Icon Name Last modified Size [DIR] Parent Directory - [ ] mozilla-nspr-debuginfo-x86-4.7.2-1.1.ia64.rpm 27-Oct-2008 13:36 254K Mirrors Metalink [ ] mozilla-nspr-x86-4.7.2-1.1.ia64.rpm 27-Oct-2008 13:36 107K Mirrors Metalink [ ] mozilla-nss-debuginfo-x86-3.12.2-3.1.ia64.rpm 03-Jan-2009 13:15 2.4M Mirrors Metalink [ ] mozilla-nss-x86-3.12.2-3.1.ia64.rpm 03-Jan-2009 13:15 969K Mirrors Metalink [ ] mozilla-xulrunner181-debuginfo-x86-1.8.1.19-1.3.ia64.rpm 03-Jan-2009 22:09 65M Mirrors Metalink [ ] mozilla-xulrunner181-l10n-x86-1.8.1.19-1.3.ia64.rpm 03-Jan-2009 22:09 1.4M Mirrors Metalink [ ] mozilla-xulrunner181-x86-1.8.1.19-1.3.ia64.rpm 03-Jan-2009 22:09 6.2M Mirrors Metalink [ ] mozilla-xulrunner190-debuginfo-x86-1.9.0.5-3.1.ia64.rpm 03-Jan-2009 22:23 78M Mirrors Metalink [ ] mozilla-xulrunner190-gnomevfs-x86-1.9.0.5-3.1.ia64.rpm 03-Jan-2009 22:23 35K Mirrors Metalink [ ] mozilla-xulrunner190-translations-x86-1.9.0.5-3.1.ia64.rpm 03-Jan-2009 22:24 3.4M Mirrors Metalink [ ] mozilla-xulrunner190-x86-1.9.0.5-3.1.ia64.rpm 03-Jan-2009 22:24 6.7M Mirrors Metalink ***** So I now understand that I am to choose one of these as the repository to use. I would like some advice about this. -- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse] New partition killed MBR?
by Teruel de Campo MD 06 Jan '09

06 Jan '09

On Tue, 2009-01-06 at 12:32 -0600, L. V. Lammert wrote: > At 11:14 AM 1/6/2009 -0700, Teruel de Campo MD wrote: > > 1. what did you use as boot manager grub? > > Yep - default install. > > > 2. how did you create new partitions? what program did you use? > > 11.1 partition manager. > > > 3. just boot from a live cd > > > > # fdisk -l > > > > and post it. > > Disk /dev/sda: 250.0 GB, 250059350016 bytes > 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 30401 cylinders > Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes > > Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System > /dev/sda1 * 2 3917 31455270 f W95 Ext'd > (LBA) > /dev/sda2 3918 11749 62910540 83 Linux > /dev/sda3 11750 15012 26210047+ 83 Linux > /dev/sda5 2 392 3140676 82 Linux swap / > Solaris > /dev/sda6 393 3655 26210016 83 Linux > /dev/sda7 3656 3917 2104483+ 83 Linux > > Lee Lee, That's weird setup. I looks like you created first an extended partition as container (sda1) with sda5 as swap sda6 root??? sda7 home?? and then you have two primary partitions sda2 sda3 I make those assumption because you said you created two partions 'after' so according to the blocks they follow. So here my advice: 1. play with the present configuration and we will help you to do that. 2. after you that reformat the HD with a little different partitions :) setup and reinstall. So the first thing is you need to know if you have a /boot and /root or just /. So what you have in sda6 and sda7? After you know that try to reinstall grub. 1. load a live linux cd. If you do not have one dsl or puppy linux are very small and fast or if yo have opensuse live. 2. open a terminal 3. as root #grub >find /boot/grub/stage1 This brings where grub first stage is located. It may not find it because according to you it should have been in the MBR (aka hd0) >root (hdX,Y) X is the drive (HD) number you start to count form O to the first drive is 0 Y is the partition number, you start to count from 0 so sda5 is 4 and so on. >setup (hdX,Y) will write those setup Note: If you use (hd0) it will replace the mbr. Typing "(hd0)",it's fine if you want to write GRUB to the MBR. If you want to write it to your linux root partition, then you want the number after the comma, such as "(hd0,3)", or to /boot '(hd0,0)' So in your case you have to write it to the MBR if I understand what you wrote :) -=terry=- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] How to cause zypepr to (re)mount partitions?
by Josef Wolf 06 Jan '09

06 Jan '09

Hello, I would like to mount /usr as read-only and not mount /boot at all by default. This seems to work so far, but updating or installing new packages fails. On debian/ubuntu, I could solve this by setting DPkg::Pre-Invoke {"/bin/mount -o remount,rw /usr ";}; DPkg::Post-Invoke {"/bin/mount -o remount /usr ";}; in /etc/apt/apt.conf. Now I am curious: Is there any way to get a similar functionality on opensuse? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Is 11.1 and kde3 really that broken??
by David C. Rankin 06 Jan '09

06 Jan '09

Listmates, Over the holidays, I had a chance to really try and configure kde 3.5.10 on 11.1 resulting in some really weird behavior and numerous hard locks. I installed a fresh copy of 11.1 i586 from the dvd. First, I got kde4 desktop. Then reconfiguring I did get kde3, but it is really broken. All updates have been applied. One bizarre bit of behavior is that when I open an application, for some reason the application is painted as my desktop background. See: http://www.3111skyline.com/download/openSUSE_bugs/111/kde3-weird-scrollbar-… http://www.3111skyline.com/download/openSUSE_bugs/111/kde3-weird-scrollbar-… http://www.3111skyline.com/download/openSUSE_bugs/111/kde3-weird-scrollbar-… Notice in the first link, scroll bars have been drawn around my desktop background from accessing konsole (also a crashed ksnapshot reappeared when the screenshot was taken), then konqueror is splattered across the desktop, and then ccsm. What in the heck is going on? Then -- where have all the fonts gone? With an 11.0 install, there are a number of new fonts that were introduced. In 11.1 all are gone -- bye, bye.. Even the semi-standard Andale-Sans is nowhere to be found. Why the change in fonts? Then, why the kde4 dialog backgrounds? Opensuse updater applet is one prime example. I installed kde3 specifically to avoid the gnome look dialogs, but got them anyway. Is there a place to configure dialog selection that can tweak this? Then there is the broken compiz-emerald issue. Why must that be broken in every opensuse release? It worked in 11.0, then was horribly broken with the 0.7.8 release, then fixed and is working fine in 11.0. Not so for 11.1. Despite being shipped as part of the distro, compiz-emerald is as broken as can be. What needs to be fixed there? I also did an x86_64 install, and unfortunately, I am having the same problems with the 64 bit install. I would expect to be chasing bugs if I had installed kde4, but I wanted to set up several daily working boxes that I could "just get work done on" and leave the "development help" for the bleeding edge boxes with kde4 on them. Above all, with kde3 as mature as it is and working as well as it is on 10.3 and 11.0, I expected zero problems from kde3 on 11.1. I have experienced just the opposite. Are these problems known? Is it something wrong with just my 2 installs, that I can wipe and hopefully avoid on a reinstall? What is the word from the front-line? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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