February 2006 - openSUSE Users - openSUSE Mailing Lists

Re: [SLE] HP Laser 1020 (more)
by Ken Schneider 19 Mar '06

19 Mar '06

On Wed, 2006-02-15 at 15:35 -0400, Doug McGarrett wrote: > On Wednesday 15 February 2006 07:31, you wrote: > > On Sat, 2010-05-08 at 14:58 -0400, Doug McGarrett wrote: > > > Following up, I discovered the following about browsers: > > > > > > While the HP site doesn't like Firefox or Netscape, it > > > seems to tolerate the KDE browser (whatever it's called) > > > fine, and I sent my complaint about Linux support via > > > the K browser. So, I guess the K browser is set up to > > > mimic MSIE? That's interesting--and encouraging. So > > > long as it doesn't mimic receiving junk! > > > > I just noticed the date you are set to, 2010? So how are things in the > > future? Is linux more widely used? :-) > > > > > > -- > > Ken Schneider > > UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998 > Thanx, Ken--I never thought about the date. I think I have it right, now. > HP is not interested in supporting Linux on this damned printer. I > guess I'll give it to my grandchildren if I can't get the dirver compiled > and working. Bummer! > --doug > Looks much better. I always recommend that people check http://www.linuxprinting.org before buying a printer. HP actually does have very good support for linux and I can see why they won't support the 1020 as it is a very low end printer that can cause you all sorts of problems. By the way always reply to the list unless asked otherwise. -- Ken Schneider UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998

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RFC: New Mailinglist Layout
by Henne Vogelsang 16 Mar '06

16 Mar '06

Hi, we talked in the last meeting about the language lists. This requires a new layout (or rather _a_ layout because today we dont have guidelines about it) of the lists. We thought about it and came up with the following: We need to distinguish between 3 different variables in the mailinglists names: 1. project 2. topic 3. language This leads to the the following layout. For instance if you want to create mailinglists for the project <project> <project>@domain.tld -------------------- - General mailinglist about the project <project> in <default language> <project>-<language>@domain.tld ------------------------------- - General mailinglist about the project <project> in <language> <project>-announce(a)domain.tld ----------------------------- - Announce/News mailinglist for project <project> in <default language> <project>-announce-<language>@domain.tld ---------------------------------------- - Announce/News mailinglist for project in <language> <project>-users(a)domain.tld -------------------------- - Support mailinglist for the project <project> in <default language> <project>-users-<language>@domain.tld ------------------------------------- - Support mailinglist about the project <project> in <language> <project>-<topic>@domain.tld ---------------------------- - Mailinglist about the topic <topic> in the project <project> in <default language> <project>-<topic>-<language>@domain.tld --------------------------------------- - Mailinglist about the topic <topic> in the project <project> in <language> This would for instance mean for the openSUSE project: opensuse(a)opensuse.org - General in english opensuse-de(a)opensuse.org - Generl in german opensuse-announce(a)opensuse.org - Announce in english opensuse-announce(a)opensuse.org - Announce in german opensuse-users(a)opensuse.org - Support in english opensuse-users-de(a)opensuse.org - Support in german opensuse-factory(a)opensuse.org - Factory in english opensuse-factory-de(a)opensuse.org - Factory in german This layout scales pretty good. We need the <project> prefix because in the long run we are going to migrate everything that is on lists.suse.com to lists.opensuse.org. And we have other projects there, for instance taskjuggler or packet-writing. Mailinglists will get setup on request. Im not going to setup mailinglists with one or less subscribers. I need to think of an request mechanism but it will probably be a mail address. There is no hard requirement for a default language list but its very desirable. So for instance there shouldnt be a opensuse-foo-de(a)opensuse.org without a list opensuse-foo(a)opensuse.org But it might be that we cant avoid that in all cases. Comments? Henne -- Henne Vogelsang, Core Services "Rules change. The Game remains the same." - Omar (The Wire)

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Re: [opensuse] rebirth of David Hallers list statistics as it was for suse-linux (de)
by Thomas Hertweck 16 Mar '06

16 Mar '06

I did not like the statistics on suse-linux (although I was mentioned there most of the time) and I am absolutely against the proposal to introduce it here... The simple reason is: it's counting shear quantity and has nothing to do with quality! However, quality should always count much more than quantity - unfortunately, something that some people on this mailing list haven't recognized yet. Furthermore, it also encourages some people to write lots of unnecessary emails, only in order to be mentioned in the statistics. Not good at all! People like, e.g., Pascal, are much more valuable for this list than others, although maybe not writing so many emails... When sombody likes to get an impression who is a frequent writer on a particular list, then there is the mail archive which can answer that question. Everybody here, not only frequent writers but also newbies, can make valuable contributions - a statistics does not reflect that at all. That's my personal opinion based on the experiences on suse-linux over the years. Cheers, Th.

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Printing in reverse order.
by pelibali 12 Mar '06

12 Mar '06

Hi, I have a HP DeskJet 5940 printer, running on cups under SUSE 10.0. I wanted to correct the printing order generally for all printing jobs, because would be not reasonable to touch all the client machines, user accounts, preferred programs, etc. I went for howtos and faqs and found a tipp for CUPS, saying that I should modify a single line in the .ppd file of my printer and changing it to *DefaultOutputOrder: "reverse" I use the hpijs driver directly from the vendor as I know and downloaded the generated .ppd from http://www.linux-printing.org , which really doesn't have the equivalent for the above line. So I just inserted that line and also tried the *DefaultOutputOrder: Reverse variant without any success. Do you have an idea please, what I did wrong or where in the .ppd I should insert this line?! The absence of this line would suggest that my printer/software can't handle preci- sely this function? Most of my users use kprinter, where its possible to change to reverse ordered printing, but the checkbox doesn't keep it state and that mark is not "sticky". Alternatively it would give me a way to solve this to make kprinter remember this setting, but probably recompiling would be needed. Right?! Thank you for any advices; this time google was really not my friend, Pelibali

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OpenSUSE in the news
by David Wright 09 Mar '06

09 Mar '06

Just got through to the Linux news section of the current c't magazine (delivered on Saturday 18/02). SUSE Linux 10.1 got a section about being delayed and missing its release during the CeBIT show. On the positive side Novell got a section on Xgl and Compiz (but using the old url: http://www.opensuse.org/xgl). However their was also critiscism about the fact that Compiz was written "behind closed doors", so that, for example, Gnome developers had no influence on its design. And finally (or firstly, I've actually written these in reverse order to the way they are printed :-P), the Kernel Log section mentions the removal of non-GPL USB drivers from the Linux Kernel, with AVM getting its nose in. The sub-title for the piece: "A change in the Kernel has meant the near exclusion/removal of AVM USB devices from Linux." ("Eine Änderung im Kernel hätte beinahe das Aus für die USB-Geräte von AVM unter Linux bedeutet.") "An employee of AVM critiscised [the change], saying that it is now not possible to provide proprietary USB-drivers; AVM must therefore stop support for its own USB devices." There is no mention in this article of SUSE BTW, just the Linux Kernel development and AVM, although they do mention that it is possible for USB devices to be written in "userland". -- "I got to go figure," the tenant said. "We all got to figure. There's some way to stop this. It's not like lightning or earthquakes. We've got a bad thing made by men, and by God that's something we can change." - The Grapes of Wrath, by John Steinbeck

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fee vmware
by jdd 07 Mar '06

07 Mar '06

Hello :-) I don't see if anybody notice this, but going to the site www.vmware.com I notice that there seems to be a new VMware server version completely free. It's a beta version and I don't know if the definitve version will also be free, and the beta is time limited (limit is jully). this is a wonderfull testing system to try new distros (like new 10.1 beta 4 :-) Very nice also for formation purpose. jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://dodin.org/galerie_photo_web/expo/index.html http://lucien.dodin.net http://fr.susewiki.org/index.php?title=Gérer_ses_photos

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Reinstalling LILO
by Geoff Waldron 06 Mar '06

06 Mar '06

Hello I have a dual boot Thinkpad (R40 with XP / Linux) and want to remove Ubuntu and install openSUSE without touching my M$ XP (required for work). How do I uninstall GRUB, reinstate LILO / openSUSE, and leave the M$ XP partition bootable from LILO? Linux partition maybe overwritten. Thanks for all your help in advance. Regards Geoff Waldron

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RE: [SLE] GVC Ethernet PCI Adapter linux
by Morten Bjørnsvik 04 Mar '06

04 Mar '06

|-----Original Message----- |From: Peter Van Lone [mailto:petervl@gmail.com] |Sent: 27. februar 2006 06:09 |To: sle |Subject: [SLE] GVC Ethernet PCI Adapter linux | |This is the realtec built-in nic on a dell dimension 4500 | |I have googled for linux and/or suse support, but the only |thing useful that I see is that module pcnet_cs.o should work |in fdlinux. | |But -- how do I go about enabling this is SUSE10 (boxed)? It |appears that the other devices were properly detected, so if I |can get this to go easily I'll be off and running! In most such cases ndiswrapper is your friend: http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/ (a wrapper around the windows driver) Do an 'lspci -v' note the model type of you nic and search on the net for what driver it may work with. All info you need is linked from the ndiswrapper site. -- MortenB

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Mailing adresses
by houghi 04 Mar '06

04 Mar '06

Is there any interest and/or willingness to let people have an @openSUSE.org email adress? Just a forwarder, not a mailbox. This could be given to people using their Bugtrack login. Advantages: People wil get an emailadress and then also have the login for bugzilla. This would make it easier for people to add bugs. People will get a feeling of belonging really to openSUSE (coolness factor) Other people will see the domain name, wich means free advertisement. Disadvatages: Extra server to maintain. Making rules of when to remove the account (X bounces, spam abuse) Extra trafic. Setting up and configuration What do you think about this idea and would Novell be willing to think about this, as this would be completely sponsored by Novell. houghi -- Nutze die Zeit. Sie ist das Kostbarste, was wir haben, denn es ist unwiederbringliche Lebenszeit. Leben ist aber mehr als Werk und Arbeit, und das Sein wichtiger als das Tun - Johannes Müller-Elmau

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Font settings
by Bob S 03 Mar '06

03 Mar '06

Hello SuSE people, Running 10.0 and KDE3.5.1 In my non KDE apps, Firefox, NVU, GQView etc. the fonts are normally very small. I installed and use gnome-control-center to make the fonts readable and comparable to the KDE settings. Works just fine, except when I shut-down and reboot the fonts in those apps revert to their original size. I just have to open gnome-control-center and close it again to regain the font size I want. Question is: Where and what do I do to have the settings maintained between reboots? It is probably some init file at boot but which one and what do I put in there? Bob S.

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