August 2005 - openSUSE Users - openSUSE Mailing Lists

RE: [opensuse] Whishlist
by Murphy, James (Tech) 10 Aug '05

10 Aug '05

Actually I think that Suse should lighten the load with Kde most people do not need all the crap that comes with KDE and if necessary just have it in a repository , FreeBSD has a kde lite which is quite good. With open suse I guess legal issues still affect what software can or cannot be included , but a standard list of YAST sources such as packman ect should be included but disabled , this would be great for newbies who want to install software but don't know how. -----Original Message----- From: John Abbott [mailto:john@abbotts-r.us] Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 1:10 PM To: opensuse(a)opensuse.org Subject: Re: [opensuse] Whishlist El Miércoles, 10 de Agosto de 2005 17:55, houghi escribió: > On Wed, Aug 10, 2005 at 05:30:18PM +0200, Víctor Fernández Martínez wrote: > > No, please. YaST is doing fine, why change to APT? > > For all the software out there that is not included in SUSE itself, like > playing DVD's, wmdrawer, ccze, > Even with the amount of software available with each distro, there will > always be some things that will NOT be included and that a user would > like. I have had little or no trouble getting anything I wanted installed on 9.3 However there are occasions where I need to revert to the command line. One of the greatest strengths of SuSE is YaST and I would hate to see it tampered with in the slightest. If alternate methods are Incorporated I would like to see them stay just that - alternate methods with no attempt to integrate them with YaST. John Abbott - still a learner at this advanced age

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Whishlist
by Jörg Hermsdorf 10 Aug '05

10 Aug '05

Hi all, is there a special 'OpenSUSE Whishlist' for feature requests? I just came across the website of the Elektra Project (http://elektra.sourceforge.net) and I thought it would be nice if OpenSUSE was one of the first Linux Distros that migrate to use this Registry-System! Just an idea... Cu, Jörg.

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Gnome on SuSE 9.1
by Surya Kiran Gullapalli 10 Aug '05

10 Aug '05

Hi, I'm using SuSE 9.1 and I've downloaded gnome 2.10 from www.gnome.org<http://www.gnome.org>and built gnome from sources and installed them to /opt/gnome. But when i run gnome, my applications are getting screwed up. some of them are crashing. I reported this to gnome guys, but they said its not gnome problem. I've tried this before on redhat and every thing was fine. But SuSE its not the case. Do i need to run some config files before switching to gnome. (or for that matter new kde also). Please help me out. Thanks, Surya

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RE: [opensuse] Whishlist
by Murphy, James (Tech) 10 Aug '05

10 Aug '05

Well that would work but what if all the repositories were included in YAST but just not enabled and the user could simply go intop YAST and enable them . I have been playing with various debian based distros this past month and using apt with synaptic I found ubuntu's to work so good better than debian regular! Kde in my opinion is a memory hog but if we used KDE lite so that we just had the basics users could then add on as they wished from YAST. -----Original Message----- From: Víctor Fernández Martínez [mailto:vfernandez@polinux.upv.es] Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 1:24 PM To: opensuse(a)opensuse.org Subject: Re: [opensuse] Whishlist I don't agree with the first thing but I can't agree more with you in the second. But instead, what if they created a contrib repository where Packman, Guru and a lot of package maintainers lived, together with everyone who wanted to participate? El Miércoles, 10 de Agosto de 2005 19:11, Murphy, James (Tech) escribió: > Actually I think that Suse should lighten the load with Kde most people do > not need all the crap that comes with KDE and if necessary just have it in > a repository , FreeBSD has a kde lite which is quite good. With open suse > I guess legal issues still affect what software can or cannot be included > , but a standard list of YAST sources such as packman ect should be > included but disabled , this would be great for newbies who want to install > software but don't know how. -- Víctor Fernández Martínez Gabinete de prensa de PoLinux [www.polinux.upv.es] Usuario de Linux registrado #312284 en http://counter.li.org. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-help(a)opensuse.org

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RE: [opensuse] Whishlist
by Murphy, James (Tech) 10 Aug '05

10 Aug '05

Now that suse will be opened I think we linux users know where it has to go before it can become a threat to the windows desktop! Programs like acidrip,grip streamtuner, gtk-gnutella should be gui'd up to look attractive and not just functional, e17 has some awesome desktop enhancements even though its still in beta . the open office suite must me compiled with suse better in order to open faster ect as right now while a great program it takes forever to open . The good thing is that Suse has been professionally developed and it shows , The open source software movement needs more programmers to make the existing software that we use such as the above I mentioned and the likes of Mplayer and XINE ect more attractive and if necessary legal. -----Original Message----- From: John Abbott [mailto:john@abbotts-r.us] Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 1:21 PM To: opensuse(a)opensuse.org Subject: RE: [opensuse] Whishlist EXCELLENT! I would vote for that in a heartbeat! On Wed, 2005-08-10 at 13:11 -0400, Murphy, James (Tech) wrote: Actually I think that Suse should lighten the load with Kde most people do not need all the crap that comes with KDE and if necessary just have it in a repository , FreeBSD has a kde lite which is quite good. With open suse I guess legal issues still affect what software can or cannot be included , but a standard list of YAST sources such as packman ect should be included but disabled , this would be great for newbies who want to install software but don't know how. -----Original Message----- From: John Abbott [mailto:john@abbotts-r.us] Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 1:10 PM To: opensuse(a)opensuse.org Subject: Re: [opensuse] Whishlist El Miércoles, 10 de Agosto de 2005 17:55, houghi escribió: > On Wed, Aug 10, 2005 at 05:30:18PM +0200, Víctor Fernández Martínez wrote: > > No, please. YaST is doing fine, why change to APT? > > For all the software out there that is not included in SUSE itself, like > playing DVD's, wmdrawer, ccze, > Even with the amount of software available with each distro, there will > always be some things that will NOT be included and that a user would > like. I have had little or no trouble getting anything I wanted installed on 9.3 However there are occasions where I need to revert to the command line. One of the greatest strengths of SuSE is YaST and I would hate to see it tampered with in the slightest. If alternate methods are Incorporated I would like to see them stay just that - alternate methods with no attempt to integrate them with YaST. John Abbott - still a learner at this advanced age

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user wiki page
by Jean-Daniel Dodin 10 Aug '05

10 Aug '05

don't you think it would be usefull to have a user page for tips on opensuse.org page? Of course I can manage this, but it would be much better if there where an official starting link from the main page. for now, I manage one at http://fr.susewiki.org (in french). Of course I can do the same on http://susewiki.org, the english counterpart, but it would be better on opensuse... I think :-) I write this from opensuse just installed with very few and neglectable problems thanks jdd -- Visitez mon site web http://www.dodin.net

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Fetchmail question
by Hans du Plooy 10 Aug '05

10 Aug '05

Hi guys, Is it possible, with multiple mailboxes listed in .fetchmailrc, to have them poll at different intervals to each other? I want to poll the internal server at work every minute, but at the same time poll my two external accounts only every 10 minutes. Can do? Thanks Hans

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Splash Images
by Andrew Wafaa 10 Aug '05

10 Aug '05

Is this an oversite or intentional to show the OS as SUSE 9.3? I had to triple check that I have actually got SUSE 10. -> cat /etc/SuSE-release SUSE LINUX 10.0 (i586) OSS Beta1 VERSION = 10.0 Maybe the login screen and boot splash should be ammended. It can easily confuse newbies. Regards, Andy

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Re: [opensuse] Whishlist
by Frederik Vos 10 Aug '05

10 Aug '05

On Wednesday 10 August 2005 18:02, Frederik Vos wrote: > On Wednesday 10 August 2005 17:55, houghi wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 10, 2005 at 05:30:18PM +0200, Víctor Fernández Martínez wrote: > > > No, please. YaST is doing fine, why change to APT? > > > > For all the software out there that is not included in SUSE itself, like > > playing DVD's, wmdrawer, ccze, > > Even with the amount of software available with each distro, there will > > always be some things that will NOT be included and that a user would > > like. > > Also for upgrading from version to version. > > > > I do not see it a a replacement. I see it as an adition to what YAST > > already is doing. A lot of people already use apt4rpm and synaptic. This > > could be an addition to those who would like to use it. > > You don't need apt-rpm for that, you already can add e.g. the guru rpm's as > yast source ... there are also yum and red-carpet ... both usable in SuSE, > but i still prefer Yast > > > > What would, perhaps, be interesting is a command-line front-end to YaST > > > that allowed you to install, uninstall, search for packages and so on. > > > There's y2pmsh but it's supposed to be experimental. > > yes, y2pmsh is a nice tool, also with scripting ... > > greetz > F

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SUSE93 - wine - default drive and/or working directory
by Frank Bax 10 Aug '05

10 Aug '05

It is my understanding that wine might also be used to run some MSDOS apps on Linux? Under DOS/WIN environment, I have software that was initially installed on network drive "J" and will only run from that drive. I have successfully (and legally) run this software on a non-networked DOS/WIN machine by creating a local directory that is a copy of "drive J", then using "subst" command to make drive "J" point to a local directory; then make drive "J" the current directory, then invoke program. If I attempt to run software from any other "working directory", the software fails. Under SUS93, I figured out how to create a "drive J" in wine (using ln -s), but I don't know how to make "J" the current/working drive/directory before invoking the DOS app. Any ideas how to properly invoke this app under Linux?

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