Whishlist

Jörg Hermsdorf

9 Aug 2005 9 Aug '05

19:48

Hi all, is there a special 'OpenSUSE Whishlist' for feature requests? I just came across the website of the Elektra Project (http://elektra.sourceforge.net) and I thought it would be nice if OpenSUSE was one of the first Linux Distros that migrate to use this Registry-System! Just an idea... Cu, Jörg.

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Berthold Gunreben

9 Aug 9 Aug

20:05

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Hi, please have a look at http://www.opensuse.org/index.php/How_to_participate#Suggest_New_Software You just should open such a wish at the official place. Chances are that this will be included. Berthold On Tue, 9 Aug 2005, Jörg Hermsdorf wrote:

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is there a special 'OpenSUSE Whishlist' for feature requests? I just came across the website of the Elektra Project (http://elektra.sourceforge.net) and I thought it would be nice if OpenSUSE was one of the first Linux Distros that migrate to use this Registry-System! Just an idea...

Cu, Jörg.

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Rasmus Plewe

20:16

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On Tue, Aug 09, 2005 at 09:48:54PM +0200, Jörg Hermsdorf wrote:

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is there a special 'OpenSUSE Whishlist' for feature requests?

You could file an "enhancement" severity bug.

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I just came across the website of the Elektra Project (http://elektra.sourceforge.net) and I thought it would be nice if OpenSUSE was one of the first Linux Distros that migrate to use this Registry-System!

I'll try to put this politely: Don't hold your breath. And perhaps I simply didn't really understand the project, but to me this looks like ridiculous, unneccessary and based on misunderstood assumptions. In any case it would mean to rewrite nearly all software in the distribution, which certainly is not going to happen. Besides, don't all Windows users whine especially about the registry? At least that's the impression I get when I am too slow to escape computer discussions with Windows users. But discussion of Elektra is surely beyond the scope of this list. Rasmus

Rasmus Plewe

20:26

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On Tue, Aug 09, 2005 at 10:16:59PM +0200, Rasmus Plewe wrote:

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On Tue, Aug 09, 2005 at 09:48:54PM +0200, Jörg Hermsdorf wrote:

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is there a special 'OpenSUSE Whishlist' for feature requests?

You could file an "enhancement" severity bug.

Berthold is right of course: read the documentation and chose the product "SUSE Linux Package Whishlist". Sorry 'bout that, it's been a long day. Rasmus

houghi

10 Aug 10 Aug

14:38

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On Tue, Aug 09, 2005 at 10:26:13PM +0200, Rasmus Plewe wrote:

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On Tue, Aug 09, 2005 at 10:16:59PM +0200, Rasmus Plewe wrote:

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On Tue, Aug 09, 2005 at 09:48:54PM +0200, Jörg Hermsdorf wrote:

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is there a special 'OpenSUSE Whishlist' for feature requests?

You could file an "enhancement" severity bug.

Berthold is right of course: read the documentation and chose the product "SUSE Linux Package Whishlist". Sorry 'bout that, it's been a long day.

Seems to be a long day for me too. I do not have the product "SUSE Linux Package Whishlist" All I have on https://bugzilla.novell.com/enter_bug.cgi? is: Hula iFolder Denali OpenOffice.org 1.0 OpenOffice.org 2.0 openSUSE SUSE LINUX 10.0 TaskJugler Am I missing something? My whish would be apt4rpm integrated into Yast. houghi -- We really don't have any enemies. It's just that some of our best friends are trying to kill us.

Víctor Fernández Martínez

15:30

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El Miércoles, 10 de Agosto de 2005 16:38, houghi escribió:

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Berthold is right of course: read the documentation and chose the product "SUSE Linux Package Whishlist". Sorry 'bout that, it's been a long day.

Seems to be a long day for me too. I do not have the product "SUSE Linux Package Whishlist" All I have on https://bugzilla.novell.com/enter_bug.cgi? is: Hula iFolder Denali OpenOffice.org 1.0 OpenOffice.org 2.0 openSUSE SUSE LINUX 10.0 TaskJugler

Am I missing something?

My whish would be apt4rpm integrated into Yast.

No, please. YaST is doing fine, why change to APT? What would, perhaps, be interesting is a command-line front-end to YaST that allowed you to install, uninstall, search for packages and so on. There's y2pmsh but it's supposed to be experimental. -- Víctor Fernández Martínez Gabinete de prensa de PoLinux [www.polinux.upv.es]. Usuario de Linux registrado #312284 en http://counter.li.org.

houghi

15:55

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On Wed, Aug 10, 2005 at 05:30:18PM +0200, Víctor Fernández Martínez wrote:

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No, please. YaST is doing fine, why change to APT?

For all the software out there that is not included in SUSE itself, like playing DVD's, wmdrawer, ccze, Even with the amount of software available with each distro, there will always be some things that will NOT be included and that a user would like. Also for upgrading from version to version. I do not see it a a replacement. I see it as an adition to what YAST already is doing. A lot of people already use apt4rpm and synaptic. This could be an addition to those who would like to use it.

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What would, perhaps, be interesting is a command-line front-end to YaST that allowed you to install, uninstall, search for packages and so on. There's y2pmsh but it's supposed to be experimental.

I use pin to search and then do `yast -i package` for instalation. Works like a charm for me. Uninstall I do with rpm -e. Writing a script to include all three should be easy. houghi -- The 80's -- when you can't tell hairstyles from chemotherapy.

Víctor Fernández Martínez

17:05

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El Miércoles, 10 de Agosto de 2005 17:55, houghi escribió:

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On Wed, Aug 10, 2005 at 05:30:18PM +0200, Víctor Fernández Martínez wrote:

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No, please. YaST is doing fine, why change to APT?

For all the software out there that is not included in SUSE itself, like playing DVD's, wmdrawer, ccze, Even with the amount of software available with each distro, there will always be some things that will NOT be included and that a user would like.

Oh, I understand. Well, I think having the possibility to install and use it is ok as long as it doesn't replace YaST as the default option. -- Víctor Fernández Martínez Gabinete de prensa de PoLinux [www.polinux.upv.es]. Usuario de Linux registrado #312284 en http://counter.li.org.

John Abbott

17:10

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El Miércoles, 10 de Agosto de 2005 17:55, houghi escribió:

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On Wed, Aug 10, 2005 at 05:30:18PM +0200, Víctor Fernández Martínez wrote:

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No, please. YaST is doing fine, why change to APT?

For all the software out there that is not included in SUSE itself, like playing DVD's, wmdrawer, ccze, Even with the amount of software available with each distro, there will always be some things that will NOT be included and that a user would like.

I have had little or no trouble getting anything I wanted installed on 9.3 However there are occasions where I need to revert to the command line. One of the greatest strengths of SuSE is YaST and I would hate to see it tampered with in the slightest. If alternate methods are Incorporated I would like to see them stay just that - alternate methods with no attempt to integrate them with YaST. John Abbott - still a learner at this advanced age

Tobias Burnus

16:01

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Seems to be a long day for me too. I do not have the product "SUSE Linux Package Whishlist" All I have on https://bugzilla.novell.com/enter_bug.cgi? is: [...]

Am I missing something?

As Orwell wrote: All animals are equal / but some animals are more equal

Hello, Víctor Fernández Martínez wrote: then others (I think it depends on the bugzilla account permissions whether you can access the package wishlist, which is probably a mistake.)

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My whish would be apt4rpm integrated into Yast.

Hmm, while I would like to see apt4rpm to be included, why replace YaST?

If I'm not mistaken, then YaST of 10.0 is based on YUM metadata and I vaguely remember that the YUM format is also supported by apt4rpm. In any case, for YUM you can use ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/apt/SuSE/10.0-i386/yum/ and for APT (might get depricated since SUSE uses now YUM in YAST) see: http://linux01.gwdg.de/apt4rpm/home.html Tobias

houghi

16:14

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On Wed, Aug 10, 2005 at 06:01:26PM +0200, Tobias Burnus wrote:

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As Orwell wrote: All animals are equal / but some animals are more equal then others (I think it depends on the bugzilla account permissions whether you can access the package wishlist, which is probably a mistake.)

Any idea where to complain?

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My whish would be apt4rpm integrated into Yast.

Hmm, while I would like to see apt4rpm to be included, why replace YaST?

Not replace, add. Under Software an other icon. houghi -- Pure drivel tends to drive ordinary drivel off of the TV screen.

Víctor Fernández Martínez

17:02

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El Miércoles, 10 de Agosto de 2005 18:01, Tobias Burnus escribió:

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If I'm not mistaken, then YaST of 10.0 is based on YUM metadata and I vaguely remember that the YUM format is also supported by apt4rpm.

In any case, for YUM you can use

ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/apt/SuSE/10.0-i386/yum/

and for APT (might get depricated since SUSE uses now YUM in YAST) see:

http://linux01.gwdg.de/apt4rpm/home.html

Do you mean they're going to base YaST on the YUM metadata format or are they going to base on the whole YUM? I've tested YUM on Fedora and it was horrible. It updated the repositories just when it wanted (not when I wanted) and it was terribly slow. I even had to wait more than one minute just to make a "yum install something", and if he updated the repositories it took even longer. :( Urpmi would be IMO a much better approach. Anyway, YaST as now is, works fine so why change it? -- Víctor Fernández Martínez Gabinete de prensa de PoLinux [www.polinux.upv.es]. Usuario de Linux registrado #312284 en http://counter.li.org.

Andreas Jaeger

18:22

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Víctor Fernández Martínez writes:

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Do you mean they're going to base YaST on the YUM metadata format or are they

We allow the metadata as additional format to what we currently use,

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going to base on the whole YUM? I've tested YUM on Fedora and it was horrible. It updated the repositories just when it wanted (not when I wanted) and it was terribly slow. I even had to wait more than one minute just to make a "yum install something", and if he updated the repositories it took even longer. :( Urpmi would be IMO a much better approach. Anyway, YaST as now is, works fine so why change it?

Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, aj@suse.de, http://www.suse.de/~aj SUSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126

Víctor Fernández Martínez

18:24

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El Miércoles, 10 de Agosto de 2005 20:22, Andreas Jaeger escribió:

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Víctor Fernández Martínez writes:

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Do you mean they're going to base YaST on the YUM metadata format or are they

We allow the metadata as additional format to what we currently use,

Then that's great. Viele Grüße. -- Víctor Fernández Martínez Gabinete de prensa de PoLinux [www.polinux.upv.es]. Usuario de Linux registrado #312284 en http://counter.li.org.

Adrian Schroeter

07:49

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On Tuesday 09 August 2005 21:48, Jörg Hermsdorf wrote:

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Hi all, is there a special 'OpenSUSE Whishlist' for feature requests? I just came across the website of the Elektra Project (http://elektra.sourceforge.net) and I thought it would be nice if OpenSUSE was one of the first Linux Distros that migrate to use this Registry-System! Just an idea...

Elektra support needs quite some work within KDE, Gnome and some other parts to really to support it. It is on the evalutation list for KDE 4, so I would prefer to wait for that. bye adrian -- Adrian Schroeter SuSE AG, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nuernberg, Germany email: adrian@suse.de

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