October 2001 - openSUSE Users - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[PASSWORDS]
by Oliver Ob 01 Oct '01

01 Oct '01

This is half on-topic, half off-topic. What I need is this: Have two NT4 machines here, lost my admin pw. Password has been already transferred to a company server 800 kilometers away, so please do not advise me to simple reset my admin pw and enter a new one. Thanks. I am trying with lopht and john the ripper but need the following: I do see that the password length is != the amount of characters in the sam file, so: Is there a linux (or at least dos) application, that can estimate of the password LENGTH inside NT's SAM file? And: How do I know (under linux) how LONG my pw is? (etc/password) this would be the same for nt, won*t it? old mail was: thanks for replying, michael, but this dot not answer my question that I asked: how do I know how LONG my pw is, see I only see this mish mash of ascii chars, furthermore the length is not accurate the same as the original pwd. same on nt, isn't it`? brgds o -- *º¤., ¸¸,.¤º*¨¨¨*¤ =Oliver@home= *º¤., ¸¸,.¤º*¨¨*¤ I http://www.bmw-roadster.de/Friends/Olli/olli.html I I http://www.bmw-roadster.de/Friends/friends.html I I http://groups.yahoo.com/group/VGAP-93 I I http://home.t-online.de/home/spacecraft.portal I >>> Telek0ma iBBMS - soon back online +49.4503.TRSi1/TRSi2 <<<

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Re: Re: [SLE] [LILO,HD] BIG BIG EMERGENCY!
by THOMAS ADAM 01 Oct '01

01 Oct '01

Mind if I chime in??? I assume that you have a dual-boot process, i.e. Windows and linux are on the same HDD?? If that is so, I suggest that you use a program called: ranish partition manager available from: http://www.users.intercom.com/~ranish/part/part.zip It is a DOS based program, and it should be able to verify that (a): your partition table (fstab, fat, etc) is set to the correct geometry, and (b): can verify this for you. I hope that helps, Thomas Adam "The Linux Weekend Mechanic" -- <www.linuxgazette.com> A Student at the "Southampton Institute", Southampton, Hants, ENGLAND

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Re: [SLE] YaST2
by Steven T. Hatton 01 Oct '01

01 Oct '01

On Monday 01 October 2001 11:02, Burness, Phil wrote: > For some reason when using YaST2 to configure a modem a sub window pops up > with the words initialising then immediatly exits. I get an error message > that y2bignfat has sementation faulted. This only appears to seg fault when > configuring a modem. Digging down through the code (yast2 line 62) the > arguments passed to y2bignfat are something like module (lan), arg2 > (.modem), client (qt). y2bignfat works OK if arg2 is (.lan), but always > fails if it is (.modem). I don't know where else to look now, I'm stumped. > Can anybody help. (By the way I am using SuSE 7.2 and I know this used to > work) I have re-loaded yast2 from the original suse disks but still have > the problem. > > Regards, > Phil Burness Make sure all your KDE2.2.1 stuff is up to date, as well as the QT stuff. You may have inadvertently overwritten you more recent KDE with an older rpm which doesn't behave itself vis-a-vis dependency checks. I had the same thing, and it went away after I reapplied the lates updates. HTH, Steven -- Open Source Software depends on your support. If you use it, be sure to give something back. http://www.suse.com | http://www.kde.org http://www.mozilla.org | http://www.xemacs.org

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Re: [SLE] SuSE 7.2 cooling fan on always and kde question
by THOMAS ADAM 01 Oct '01

01 Oct '01

Hello, > Hello All, > > This is my first mail to this group, so please forgive me if I do > something wrong, or if this is not the place for these 2 questions... You've found the right place.....welcome :-) > I just bought SuSE 7.2 Pro and installed it on a new Sony Vaio 1.5GHz > P4 machine. 7.2 is a great improvement from 6.3 by the way! I have > been running 6.3 on another machine for over a year. I use the KDE > interface on both machines. Errgghh. I hate KDE. I prefer using FVWM2 with the M4 pre- processor "AnotherLevel (lestiff style)". At least that way, I actually *have* some memory free :-) But, each to their own, I suppose. > Question 1: My CPU Fan seems to be on 100% of the time I am booted > into SuSE 7.2. When I boot into windows, the fan only comes on > occasionally. Is this normal for SuSE to run the fan all of the time? > Is it going to burn out the fan eventually? No. Furthermore your fan is hardware dependant, and is not controlled by any software. If you are concerned about this, I suggest that you check out the program called "sensors", which is available off the CD. Note: If you have upgraded your kernel (i.e. replaced it from one already installed from the CD), you'll have to make sure that you compile in "sensors". But if your using the kernel off the CD, you won't have to worry :-) > Question 2: In 6.3, all open windows were shown in buttons just above > the task bar at the bottom of the screen, so I could quickly jump to > any window - even if it was on another virtual screen (then it's > virtual screen would automatically become active). In 7.2, I only > have buttons for windows that are open on the active virtual screen > (and they are shown right in the task bar), so I have to switch to the > other virtual screen first to get to a window there. Is there a way > to have it show all window buttons in 7.2 like it does by default in > 6.3? ? > I have looked extensively everywhere I could think of to find answers > to these questions before using this mail list, but I can't find > information about them. > > Thanks for any advice you can pass along. HTH, Thomas Adam "The Linux Weekend Mechanic" -- <www.linuxgazette.com> A Student at the "Southampton Institute", Southampton, Hants, ENGLAND

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Tomcat ?? Where to get it
by Shane Broomhall 01 Oct '01

01 Oct '01

Hi All, I have to learn how to use a Java based web portal that will run on most web servers. To run on Linux it needs to have Java on Apache, I have been advised that it is better to use something called Tomcat. Could someone please direct me to where I can find out some more information on Tomcat. Thanks in advance. Shane Broomhall Brisbane Australia shanebroomhall(a)computer.org shanebroomhall(a)airforce.net

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Re: [SLE] Different versions
by THOMAS ADAM 01 Oct '01

01 Oct '01

Hello, > Hi! > > Just wondering. How different are SuSE version 7.1 and 7.2 from each > other. And how about 7.0 and 7.2? > I'm asking this because a program I would like to install has been > tested to work with SuSE 6.0-7.0 > and I would just want to be sure it won't mess my system if I try to > install it. Your program will work. The only difference with each versions are that the latest (7.2) has so-called "up-to- date" versions of the GCC compiler, Kernel, and various other "essential" utilities deemed by SuSE :-) This obviously does not affect the over layout of Linux (referring to the LSB and FSSH). ----------- Thomas Adam "The Linux Weekend Mechanic" -- <www.linuxgazette.com> A Student at the "Southampton Institute", Southampton, Hants, ENGLAND

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wxPython, Numeric and other Python req's for SuSE Linux 7.3
by Eric Maryniak 01 Oct '01

01 Oct '01

Hello SuSE list, SuSE Feedback (sent separately), Although I'm running an old SuSE version (6.3), upgrading to some 7.2 rpm's did not seem to work either, so, anticipating my future server upgrade from 6.3 to 7.3, I have the following request to SuSE feedback and included, for those of you who struggled like me, my modest HowTo (install Python 2.1.1, Numeric, MySQL-python (mysqldb) and wxPython/wxWindows). In SuSE Linux 7.3 my request to SuSE is to include rpm's for...: o Python 2.1.1 or higher (or perhaps make 2.2 optional/experimental) o The Numeric library http://numpy.sourceforge.net/ o The MySQL interface (also necessary for Zope with the MySQL adapter) http://sourceforge.net/projects/mysql-python/ o wxPython (and wxWindows, thus glib, gtk+, wxGTK: please don't forget the contrib/src stuff or demo/demo.py won't run! (see howto below)) http://wxpython.org/ o PIL library http://www.pythonware.com/downloads/#pil o PyQt bindings http://www.thekompany.com/projects/pykde/ And (sort of Python related): o Zope (www.zope.org) with the CMF product __and__ the MySQL database adapter product. ** ** How to install MySQL-Python, wxPython and Python 2.1.1 on SuSE 6.x ** ** Howto use MySQL and wxPython and Python 2.1.1 with SuSE 6.3 (and possibly 6.4 and 7.0 to some extent, and 7.1-7.2 regarding 2.1.1). Although I tried to be as accurate as possible, the std. disclaimer applies: use of this info is at your own risk... Good luck and I hope you may find something useful, bye-bye, Eric The idea: install to /usr/local, thus not interfering with SuSE 6.3's setup (/usr). Put /usr/local/bin in your PATH, before /usr/bin. 0. Distutils First download Distutils from www.python.org if not already installed (not by default on SuSE Linux 6.3): http://www.python.org/sigs/distutils-sig/download.html and put it in /usr/src/packages/SOURCES, e.g.: /usr/src/packages/SOURCES/Distutils-1.0.2.tar.gz Verify in a python shell ("import sys ; sys.exec_prefix; sys.prefix") that the prefix of configure was '/usr' and _not_ the default '/usr/local'! So install with this prefix: # python setup.py install --prefix=/usr o Update to Python 2.1.1 (terse summary). This was necessary to get a simulation program of ours working, which required Python 2.1 and Numeric (with MLab): this module is not included in the SuSE 6.3 standard Python rpm (1.5.2). Installing MLab separately was not necessary: it seemed to be a part of the Numeric package/tarball. A. Python 2.1.1 Proved to be easy, because the --prefix (in configure) is /usr/local by default, so 2.1.1 does not interfere with 1.5.2 (std. SuSE 6.3) which has prefix /usr (all is in /usr/{bin,lib} etc). Furthermore, hand editing Modules/Setup is _not_ necessary either, because the setup.py script figured things out correctly. So it was the simply Gnu dance: # ./configure && make && make install Tkinter was also automatically detected and installed ok. B. NumPy: Numeric-20.2.1 Also simple, cuz distutils is nicely callable. Remove the '--dry-run' if install targets look ok. # /usr/local/bin/python \ ./setup_all.py install --prefix=/usr/local --dry-run 1. MySQL-python-0.9.0 If you just upgraded to Python 2.1.1, logout en login again and make sure ('which python') the correct python version is first in your PATH, so the typical '#!/usr/bin/env python' script heading selects the right Python version if you have 1.5.2 in /usr/bin, but installed 2.1.1 in /usr/local/bin. The MySQL-Python package was formerly aka mysqldb. Extract, fix permissions and cd to the ./MySQL-python-0.9.0 dir: # cd /to/some/temp/work/dir # tar zxvf /usr/src/packages/SOURCES/MySQL-python-0.9.0.tar.gz # chown -R root:root MySQL-python-0.9.0 # chmod -R og-w MySQL-python-0.9.0 # cd MySQL-python-0.9.0 Edit the setup.py script ("sys.platform" returns "linux2" on SuSE 6.3): [---- Begin file (fragment): MySQL-python-0.9.0/setup.py ----] #EM# - SuSE Linux elif added below Red Hat. #EM# - Note that contrary to the include files, the mysqlclient lib files are #EM# in /usr/lib (at least for SuSE Linux 6.3, I don't know for 6.4/7.x). if sys.platform == "linux-i386": # Red Hat include_dirs = ['/usr/include/mysql'] library_dirs = ['/usr/lib/mysql'] libraries = [mysqlclient, "z"] runtime_library_dirs = [] extra_objects = [] elif sys.platform == "linux2" and os.name == "posix": # SuSE Linux 6.3 include_dirs = ['/usr/include/mysql'] library_dirs = ['/usr/lib'] libraries = [mysqlclient, "z"] runtime_library_dirs = [] extra_objects = [] elif sys.platform in ("freebsd4", "openbsd2"): [------ End file (fragment): MySQL-python-0.9.0/setup.py ----] Build the package: # python ./setup.py build Before really installing, do a dry-run test first: # python ./setup.py --dry-run install And then really install: # python ./setup.py install Most files are installed in /usr/lib/python1.5/site-packages/MySQLdb/, or /usr/local/lib/python2.1/site-packages/MySQLdb if you use Python version 2.1.1. Here is a complete list (byte-compiled *.pyc files omitted): /usr/lib/python1.5/site-packages/CompatMysqldb.py /usr/lib/python1.5/site-packages/_mysql_exceptions.py /usr/lib/python1.5/site-packages/MySQLdb/* several files and dirs /usr/lib/python1.5/site-packages/_mysql.so o Using MySQLdb from Python scripts. Under Linux, it is very simple to use the MySQLdb module from Python scripts, to access a MySQL database, retrieve records and store them in Python variables for subsequent processing or calculations. Under Windows, use your favorite editor (or PythonWin) and create this file as 'mysql-demo.py' on your network disk: [==== Begin file (complete): mysql-demo.py ====] #!/usr/bin/env python import MySQLdb db = MySQLdb.connect(db='database_name', \ user='username', \ passwd='password') c = db.cursor() c.execute('SELECT subject_name, city, email_address \ FROM subjects \ WHERE subject_name = "John Doe";') results = c.fetchall() print results [====== End file (complete): mysql-demo.py ====] When saved, e.g. as U:\mysql-demo.py, log in on the server, and from your Linux prompt ("john@linus:~ $ ", shortened to "$ " here) type (example user: john): $ chmod u+x mysql-demo.py This makes the Python script 'executable', and you only need to do this once. Note that your U:\ disk is the same as Unix directory '/home/john', which is abreviated to the tilde (~). Now run the script: $ mysql-demo.py Or, if the current directory (.) is not in your PATH: $ ./mysql-demo.py This will return a number of records (each record as a Python tuple). For more information and examples on using MySQL from Python, see: http://dustman.net/andy/python/MySQLdb/doc/MySQLdb.html http://www.python.org/topics/database/DatabaseAPI-2.0.html http://www.amk.ca/python/writing/DB-API.html D. wxPython An alternative to the ("default") Tkinter GUI, based on wxWindows (http://wxwindows.org/) which it "wraps" (http://wxpython.org/) See http://wxpython.org/download.php: the (free) Gtk port thus requires glib, gtk+ and wxGtk. Installing rpm version from higher SuSE versions (upto 7.2) did not make wxPython work (and, by the way, rpm --nodeps was necessary to force the installation), so a source build and install was performed, moreover because wxPython (2.3.1) needed the very latest wxGtk, also at 2.3.1 (non-stable development version by the way): a recommended practice to keep the versions in sync. - Step 1/4: glib and gtk+ Download glib and gtk+ from: http://www.gtk.org/ ftp://ftp.gtk.org/pub/gtk/v1.2/ ftp://ftp.gtk.org/pub/gtk/v1.2/glib-1.2.9.tar.gz ftp://ftp.gtk.org/pub/gtk/v1.2/gtk+-1.2.9.tar.gz Extract (tar zxvf foo.tar.gz) to a temporary work directory and fix ownership (chmod -R root:root glib* gtk*), then install: # cd glib-1.2.9 && more README INSTALL # ./configure --prefix=/usr/local && make && make install Actually the '--prefix' flag is not necessary, because /usr/local is the default, but it does not harm to be explicit. Update system and library paths with 'ldconfig', pseudo re-login and list glib settings to verify the installation: # ldconfig # exec bash --login # glib-config --version; glib-config --prefix 1.2.9 /usr/local # glib-config --libs; glib-config --cflags -L/usr/local/lib -lglib -I/usr/local/include/glib-1.2 -I/usr/local/lib/glib/include The same for gtk+: # cd gtk+-1.2.9 && more README INSTALL # ./configure --prefix=/usr/local && make && make install # ldconfig # exec bash --login # gtk-config --version; gtk-config --prefix 1.2.9 /usr/local # gtk-config --libs -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lgtk -lgdk -rdynamic -lgmodule -lglib -ldl -lXext -lX11 -lm # gtk-config --cflags -I/usr/local/include/gtk-1.2 -I/usr/local/include/glib-1.2 -I/usr/local/lib/glib/include -I/usr/X11R6/include - Step 2/4: wxGTK Download wxGTK, wxWindows for GTK+, from: http://wxwindows.org/ http://wxwindows.org/dl_gtk.htm http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/wxwindows/wxGTK-2.3.1.tar.gz Extract, fix ownership, install and verify with: # cd wxGTK-2.3.1 && more README.txt INSTALL.txt # ./configure --prefix=/usr/local --with-gtk --with-opengl # make && make install # ldconfig # exec bash --login # wx-config --version; wx-config --prefix 2.3.1 /usr/local # wx-config --libs -L/usr/local/lib -lwx_gtk -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lgtk -lgdk -rdynamic -lgmodule -lgthread -lglib -lpthread -ldl -lXext -lX11 -lm -ldl -lpthread -lm # wx-config --cflags -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/lib/wx/include -D__USE_WXCONFIG__ -DGTK_NO_CHECK_CASTS -D__WXGTK__ Note that 'wxgtk-config' is a symlink to 'wx-config'. You can test wxGTK by running 'make' in the 'demos' directory and test a couple of programs their directory. Make sure you work under X Windows, e.g. KDE or Gnome, or with an X emulator, and that the $DISPLAY variable is set to your X console (e.g. yourhost.yourdomain.com:0.0): bombs forty fractal life poem Optionally, also 'make' in the 'samples' directory and test some programs there or all like: cd samples for f in *; do if [ -d $f -a -x $f/$f ]; then echo -n "Execute sample program $f/$f (Y/n)? " read ans [ -z "$ans" -o "$ans" = "Y" -o "$ans" = "y" ] && \ { cd $f && ./$f; cd ..; } fi done Finally, build and install the following wxWindows extension modules, which are present in the 'contrib/src' directory and are necessary for wxPython's demo/demo.py program: - canvas - Open GL canvas extension module - ogl - Object Graphics Library extension module - stc - wxStyledTextCtrl (Scintilla wrapper) extension module - xrc - XML Resources extension module with this all-in-one loop: # for f in canvas ogl stc xrc; do cd contrib/src/$f make && make install cd ../../.. done Or separately, like: # cd contrib/src/xrc && make && make install && cd ../../.. and likewise for all extension modules. Rehash library paths etc.: # ldconfig # exec bash --login - Step 3/4: PyOpenGL Download PyOpenGL and the Mesa patches from: http://pyopengl.sourceforge.net/ http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/pyopengl/PyOpenGL-2.0.0.44.tar.gz http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/pyopengl/mesa-setup-patch.tar.gz Skip this step for now. Note: does not seem to be necessary! - Step 4/4: wxPython Download wxPython from: http://wxpython.org/ http://wxpython.org/download.php http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/wxpython/wxPython-2.3.1.tar.gz Extract and fix ownership, and also download the docu files: wxPython-docs-2.3.1.tar.gz, wxPython-demo-2.3.1.tar.gz # tar zxvf wxPython-2.3.1.tar.gz # tar zxvf wxPython-docs-2.3.1.tar.gz # tar zxvf wxPython-demo-2.3.1.tar.gz # chown -R root.root wxPython* wxpython* wxPython itself extracts to wxPython-2.3.1 and the demo is also extracted to that dir, the docs, however, did not (for 2.3.1): # mv wxpython-/docs wxPython-2.3.1/. # rmdir wxpython- Go to the wxPython-2.3.1 directory, read files 'README.txt' and 'BUILD.unix.txt', and start building, after making the following software availability and version verifications (this should be ok if you executed the previous steps succesfully): - Gtk version is ok (e.g. >= 1.2.5 for wxPython 2.3.1): # gtk-config --version 1.2.9 - wxGtk is installed and version is ok (same version as wxPython): # wxgtk-config --version 2.3.1 - Make sure library paths, etc., are set up ok: # ldconfig # exec bash --login Now read docu, adjust BUILD_GLCANVAS and BUILD_OGL in 'setup.py' if necessary (should be installed in step 2/4), and build and install: # cd wxPython-2.3.1 && more README.txt BUILD.unix.txt # python setup.py build # python setup.py install Test wxPython (via an X emulator or behind an X terminal): # cd ./demo && python demo.py And interactively with this small program: from wxPython.wx import * class MyApp(wxApp): def OnInit(self): frame = wxFrame(NULL, -1, "Hello from wxPython") frame.Show(true) self.SetTopWindow(frame) return true app = MyApp(0) app.MainLoop() A simple hello window should pop up, that you can close. Finally, put the 'demo' and 'docs' directories in an appropiate place, e.g. /usr/local/lib/wx: # mv demo docs /usr/local/lib/wx/. End. -- Eric Maryniak <e.maryniak(a)pobox.com> WWW homepage: http://pobox.com/~e.maryniak/ Mobile phone: +31 6 52047532, or (06) 520 475 32 in NL. Internet Explorer, n.: Another bug -- that is, a feature that can't be turned off -- in Windows.

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problem with apache and SUSE 7.2
by Silvia Nieto Santos 01 Oct '01

01 Oct '01

This is the message I get in error log file when I try to use /etc/httpd/access.conf file with Apache 1.3.19 on SuSe Linux 7.2. Server clearly finds /etc/httpd/access.conf file and reads it contents, I get dialog box asking to enter login name and password, but after I enter correct login/password I always get 401 error saying that Authorization is required. Content of the /etc/httpd/access.conf is also fine, since it worked fine on older version of Apache. Does anyone any ideas?. Thank you very much

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hard disk upgrade
by Richard Booth 01 Oct '01

01 Oct '01

Hi I am installing a new hard disk and want to copy my SuSE linux partitions over to the new bigger hard disk. I am after the best way to do this, I think I should be doing the following: cp -a /home /mnt/home on all directories except /proc and /dev, for /dev I should be running the makedev script. Then using a rescue disk to set lilo up on the mbr. Does this seem okay, have I missed something out? Also, I do not know how to create the partitions on the new disk for a resier filesystem. Please can someone let me know the best way to do this, and how to create resier partitions by hand and anything else I need to know on this. Thanks Rich

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Re: [SLE] C++ and ld issues
by Alexandr Malusek 01 Oct '01

01 Oct '01

J.Drews <j.e.drews(a)worldnet.att.net> writes: > On Sunday 30 September 2001 06:04 pm, you wrote: > > > #include <iostream> > > > > int main() { > > cout << "Hello World\n"; > > > > return 0; > > } > > > > Oops: > > > gcc -o test test.C > > > This should be: > > g++ -o test test.C This answer solves the problem on SuSE 7.2 with gcc-2.95.3. But note that the program is not correct according to the ISO C++ standard and will not compile with gcc-3.0.1. Use: #include <iostream> using namespace std; int main() { cout << "Hello World\n"; return 0; } or (for backward compatibility) #include <iostream.h> int main() { cout << "Hello World\n"; return 0; } -- Alexandr.Malusek(a)imv.liu.se

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