January 2001 - openSUSE Users - openSUSE Mailing Lists

installation nightmares
by MaD dUCK 06 Jan '01

06 Jan '01

hey all, i've been stuck with RH 6.2 for too long now and never had time to finally switch to suse 7.0 professional, which has been waiting in the box unopened now for months. now, semester break, and i finally found time to do the upgrade - but it turns out to be a nightmare. i am a fairly experienced almost-expert linux user and can confidently say that i know what i am doing. however, i tried installing suse 7.0 now on three different systems, and everytime it failed due to stupid reasons. for the first two systems, i cannot vouch because they might be broken in themselves, so i am going to describe the nightmares i've been having with my production system: Dell Latitude CPi-A 366MHz Laptop 256Mb RAM 6.4 Gb Hdd 24x CD-ROM Neomagic 2.5Mb Video Neomagic Sound RH 6.2 installed like a jiffy, never any problems, everything works! but i hate RH, i want to use suse!!! okay, here's what i did: because i consider myself advanced, i started using YaST1. i set up the partition table as follows: /dev/hda1 /boot 8Mb ext2fs /dev/hda2 <swap> 256Mb /dev/hda3 extended /dev/hda4 266Mb suspend2disk (dell specific) /dev/hda5 / 500Mb reiserfs /dev/hda6 /usr 1500Mb reiserfs /dev/hda7 /usr/local 350Mb reiserfs /dev/hda8 /home 3000Mb reiserfs /dev/hda9 /var 100Mb reiserfs /dev/hda10 /tmp 200Mb reiserfs YaST1 reported an error trying to format the partitions because they "hadn't been configured" - but there was nothing left to configure in the partitioning manager. so i said - well, maybe i am dumb, let's use YaST2... i recreated the above partition table (actually i had /dev/hda5 at 150Mb, /dev/hda6 at 1200Mb, /dev/hda7 at 1000Mb, but YaST said it needed more for / and /usr, so i gave it more) (*1*) <footnotes below> then i went and selected "Default" for packages and still had to go through to disable a whole lot of crap like NIS, scanner stuff, cd burning and SCSI stuff, GNOME and KDE (i use wmaker) and and and. finally, the packages where all adjusted and the package management displayed something like 100Mb free on /usr and 50Mb free on /. so i said "great", and went to install. the first error message was "could not create swap partition on /dev/hda2". this is almost like windoze - a great error message but no details. i said "continue" and the RPM's started to be installed, except that the very first RPM gave an error "drive capacity exhausted" and i clicked continue just to get the same error for every subsequent package. after somehow disabling the error message for all the remaining packages (which all failed), YaST could not create and rc.config and other files and the installation failed and i rebooted, took my old harddrive and started up RH again to type this email. i am frustrated! SuSE being great and all, YaST2 isn't compatible with my expertise. could someone maybe shine some light into this affair? (the install was english, english keyboard layout, not that it matters...) thanks, martin --- footnotes - there's actually only one... --- (*1*) the final suggestion by YaST was 500 Mb for / with all the packages installed that i wanted. with separate /usr, /var, /tmp, and /boot partitions, why the *heck* does SuSE need 500Mb for / ??? my RH ran with 50Mb! [greetings from the heart of the sun]# echo madduck@!#:1:s@\@@@.net -- xerox does it again and again and again and ...

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updatedb non running on SuSE 7.0
by Robert C. Paulsen Jr. 06 Jan '01

06 Jan '01

I did a "locate" today and got a warning message that the updatedb database was more than 8 days old. I found the problem: the file /etc/cron.daily/aaa_base_updatedb has the following test: if [ -n "$RUN_UPDATEDB" -a "$RUN_UPDATEDB" = "yes" -a \ -x /usr/bin/updatedb ] ; then Notice that it is looking for updatedb in /usr/bin. On my SuSE 7.0 system this is in /usr/sbin. Is this a problem in the SuSE 7.0 distribution or have I somehow messed this up? (I can't imagine how I could have done this.) Is it possible that other executables have moved and that other, similar, scripts may not be working? P.S. I fixed it by putting a soft link in /usr/bin. -- ____________________________________________________________________ Robert Paulsen paulsen(a)texas.net

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Re: Re: [SLE] 2.4.0 problems
by Moller Erland 06 Jan '01

06 Jan '01

snip original problem. >You used the config file from 2.2.16 to build 2.4.0 ? Not wise. That's no problem, you just have to configure the remainng, new options of 2.4.0. >Order of events for buliding kernel: > xconfig > make dep > make clean > make bzImage > make modules > make modules_install > cp /boot/vmlinuz /boot/vmlinuz.2.2.16 #or whatever > cp /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot/bzImage /boot/vmlinuz > cp /usr/src/linux/System.map /boot/System.map > >Fix lilo etc etc. So far so good! > > > It boots fine. However now it can't find most of the modules. I went in > and looked and the modules are in a different directory structure than > 2.2.16. For example, most of the modules reside in > /lib/modules/2.4.0/kernel. >You cannot use 2.2.16 modules with 2.4.0 >Hide the 2.2.16 modules tree away somewhere. That's not needed. The right tree of modules will be used. >You can do a "depmod", although that will happen automatically >when you boot (at least it does with Suse). > > At this point I started creating symlinks all over in there trying to get > it to a semi-2.2.16 structure. >No need for this. The modules_install will create the directory structure >it needs. > > My question is this: is this the proper way to do this? Is there something > else I should be doing instead of making all these blasted symlinks? You should have read /usr/src/linux/Documentation/Changes. It clearly states that you need the latest modutils package. version 2.4.0. The URL where you can grab them is in the above mentioned file.

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XFree 4.0.1 & SaX2
by Álvaro A. Novo 06 Jan '01

06 Jan '01

Under ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/X/XFree86/XFree86-4.0.1-SuSE/suse64 I cannot find a SaX2 rpm file; but in README I read: > Make sure that the packages 'perl' (series a) and 'perl_tk' (series perl) > are installed. They are required by SaX2! > > For configuration of XFree86 4.0.1 use our new configuration tool SaX2. Just > type the following command: > > # sax2 I am downloading the one(s) under suse70; is there a "better" location for SaX2? Thanks in advance, -- Alvaro Novo SuSE 6.4 -=- Kernel 2.4.0-prerelease -=- KDE 2.1.0-Beta1-0 11:06pm up 4:58, 6 users, load average: 0.01, 0.06, 0.08

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Re: [SLE] package search
by Volker Kuhlmann 06 Jan '01

06 Jan '01

> That looks good. Thanks :-) It's one of those problems Red Hat doesn't (or didn't use to) have - if there's only 1 CD, no problem. With 6, the fun starts... Yast is a great tool, but to get any package info out of it it needs to have and scan a CD, for even better info it has to be the first CD - the amount of time that takes is simply not acceptable. Neither is that it has to be run as root (I think). After all that trouble, yast still doesn't answer questions like "is there a package which provides file ABC", which I have all the time. > Now the next facility you need is to get it to somehow loginto > Suse and find out all the updates and patches that have been made > since the CD's were burnt and what packages are therefore out of > date ... :) Now *that* is a damn good suggestion! It's probably not so easy to code though. If there was an index like ftp.ctan.org/tex-archive/FILES.byname.gz (the CTAN index) things would be easier (SuSE: HINT HINT HINT). Failing that, anyone knows how to get wget -r ftp://ftp.suse.com/... to only save all the .listing files, but not to download anything else? Better, how to get a decent directory listing with full path names and file dates and sizes? Finding out what can/should/need to be updated, for what reason, and checking MD5 sums has always been a nightmare with SuSE... :-( Volker

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RE: [SLE] 2.4 released
by John Ross Hunt 06 Jan '01

06 Jan '01

> > As everybody and her brother knows by now, kernel 2.4 has been > released. > > > http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2001-01-05-001-04-NW-LF-KN > Can anyone from SuSE tell us if an update for 7.0 will happen, or do we have to wait until 7.1 is released? -- John Ross Hunt bigboote(a)mediaone.net <mailto:bigboote@mediaone.net>

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Installing 2 kernel for iomega zip drive
by Adinda Praditya 06 Jan '01

06 Jan '01

I'd like to set my iomega zip drive, i went to their site and download their driver for linux. When i ran Setup (as the readme said) i got error that it is for kernel 2.2.14 only. Should i download 2.2.14? I've heard that we can install more than 1 kernel, how? where can i find the docs? -- Abdulmalik bin Hilman bin Mahyuddin ----------------------------------- Verily! Allah grasps the heavens and the earth lest they should move away from their places, and if they were to move away from their places, there is noe one that could grasp them after Him. Truly, He is Ever Most Forbearing, Oft-Forgiving. (Al-Fathir : 41) a Black Hole?

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Latest MySQL in SuSE?
by wilson＠claborn.net 06 Jan '01

06 Jan '01

Has anyone tried the latest MySQL in SuSE 7.0? What packages did you have to install to make it work? Does the new BerkleyDB mess anything up? ---------------------------------------- Jonathan Wilson System Administrator Cedar Creek Software http://www.cedarcreeksoftware.com Central Texas IT http://www.centraltexasit.com

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simple apache question
by Jeff Barnes 06 Jan '01

06 Jan '01

What URL do I enter in the browser to access "/usr/local/httpd/public_html/aaa.html through the apache server ? I installed in loopback mode with IP 127.0.0.1 If I input http ://127.0.0.1 I get a really nervous penguin with swimming glasses on dancing so I can assume the apache server itself is working. thanks by the way I reinstalled my system with yast1 instead of yast2 and things run faster now (yast2 may not have optimized for pentium). Also on my previous installation the penguin page did not appear. Yast1 may be the bette way to go. Shop Safely Online Without a Credit Card http://www.rocketcash.com

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XFree86-4.02
by Cleary, Mike 06 Jan '01

06 Jan '01

Mainly for any SuSE employees monitoring the list...... I found an update to Xfree86-4.02 for 7.0 on the SuSE ftp site, but not one for 6.4. Anyone know if there is going to be one? I can download it from the Xfree86.org site, but I'd rather use SuSE rpms so I'll end up w/ the proper .xsession file. TIA, Mike -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael Cleary UNIX Qualification and Commands Data General, a Division of EMC2 62 T.W. Alexander Dr. Research Triangle Park, NC mdcleary(a)dg-rtp.dg.com (919) 248-6033 --------------------------------------------------------------------------

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