January 2001 - openSUSE Users - openSUSE Mailing Lists

Large Format Plotting during Linux
by Csaba Bajko 10 Jan '01

10 Jan '01

Hi all, Are there somebody who already used or installed lage format plotters during Linux? I just looking for solution for plotting with CalComp or Mutoh plotters with Linux. kind regards Csaba Bajko csbajko(a)elsat.hu

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compressing mail archives
by Togan Muftuoglu 10 Jan '01

10 Jan '01

Hi everyone, I am using Netscape for email is there way to get my mail folders to be compressed monthly. TIA -- Togan Muftuoglu toganm(a)turk.net

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Emails to suse-linux-e@suse.com
by Martin Mielke 10 Jan '01

10 Jan '01

Dear all, it seems that emails sent to suse-linux-e(a)suse.com take forever to show up in the list... I'm sending this at 12:43 CET. Let's see what happens... Is there anyone out there experiencing the same delay problems? Martin

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Dell laptop with pcmcia Olicom Token-Ring card help
by Daniel Casey 10 Jan '01

10 Jan '01

Anyone know where I can get drivers for this card and patch them into the kernel so I can use it? Olicom GoCard 3250 Cardbus PC Card Thanks, Daniel

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suse business model (was: goodbye YaST?)
by MaD dUCK 10 Jan '01

10 Jan '01

my thread deteriorated into a discussion of suse's business model, so why don't we start a new one here just to keep organization. in response to all your comments, i want to say the following: i don't mind suse offering charged support - basically any other company does so. sure, in the case of micro$oft, where i was forced to use their support hotline exactly once, paid $90 and never got called back (suckers!), no results are guaranteed, but if suse's support hotline gives you help for money, that's fine. they need to survive somehow too. with the mailing list in place, the average user has plenty of sources of help. now if suse would finally make their knowledge base a little more usable and current... and the price jump is kind of justified simply by comparing 6 disk/3 books suse 7.0 to 4 disk/1 book redhat 7.0. you do get quite a bit with suse, that's for sure. suse should go ahead and make money like everyone else, but please don't let them forget about the small user - the true core of linux - and please don't let them end up like m$, producing sheit-software for ridiculous prices... martin [greetings from the heart of the sun]# echo madduck@!#:1:s@\@@@.net -- qvid me anxivs svm?

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Transferring settings
by Jim Worrest 10 Jan '01

10 Jan '01

I've put my SuSE 6.3 on another computer, and I plan to put it on still yet another, is there an easy way of transferring settings to a new system? If there isn't an easy way for nearly a system wide transfer, how about especially for KDE? Thanks. ---Jim Shop online without a credit card http://www.rocketcash.com RocketCash, a NetZero subsidiary

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"checktime reached"
by Jim Worrest 10 Jan '01

10 Jan '01

I've been getting the message "EXT2-fs warning: checktime reached..." on my SuSE 6.3 setupI'm pretty sure you can have this run automatically. How do you have automatic defrag take place? ---Jim Shop online without a credit card http://www.rocketcash.com RocketCash, a NetZero subsidiary

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Java Development Environment
by Juha Korkiakangas 10 Jan '01

10 Jan '01

Hi, I'm using KDE with SuSE7.0 and i want to set up desktop to use for java development. Can i set more options to filemanager-menu when i right-click to *.java-file so i can chose alternativ compile? And how can i setup filemanager to run class-files whith single-click? This is how things were working my Solaris-box and i really liked it. Any ideas? regards, Juha

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RE: [SLE] distros (was: goodbye YaST?)
by Seth Payne 10 Jan '01

10 Jan '01

Hello, As I have mentioned on this list before, I have built a Linux distribution from scratch using linuxfromscratch.org by Gerard Beekmans. He has done an incredible job of laying out exactly how to build the source necessary for a basic Linux box. I have just posted two version of my distribution at www.sethpayne.com/linux_home.htm so if any of you are interested you can check it out. These are simple tar balls containing the root filesystem so to install it you will have to boot with slackware (or similar) bootdisks, partition etc... The most important thing to remember is that once you have untarred in the desired partition, you have to chroot into that environment to run LILO. So say you mounted /dev/hda3 as /mnt to untar the distro. To get lilo installed you would enter: chroot /mnt env -i HOME=/root bash --login /sbin/lilo You would also have to edit the /etc/fstab to match your configuration etc... Basically, my goal is to learn Bash and PHP programming so I am building a distro that is administered through simple shell and PHP scripts. The versions I have posted are about as "pure" as you can get with very few network daemons set up. I would strongly encourage anyone who is somewhat familiar with Linux to go to www.linuxfromscratch.org and start building their own. Trust me, once you start having to write your own boot scripts and set up run levels you really start to appreciate tools like YaST! :) -----Original Message----- From: MaD dUCK [mailto:madduck@madduck.net] Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 8:35 AM To: Jerry Kreps Cc: Cliff Sarginson; Koos Pol; SuSE Mailinglist Subject: [SLE] distros (was: goodbye YaST?) also sprach Jerry Kreps (on Mon, 08 Jan 2001 04:37:58PM -0600): > The answer to all this "pure Linux" theology is, of course, to roll your own. > Pick up a kernel from kernel.org, the utils from the GNU site, and a dozen or > so other utilities from various other sites. Then study perl or bash or python > until you are an expert one of them (is bash powerful enough?) and write > your config scripts, layout your own FS schema, etc... > Should be fun, if you don't have to work to pay bills. sure, but there's got to be a distro out there which doesn't attempt to carry the user on hands but which gives you linux and a good selection of GNU while keeping their hands to standards and not screwing up in various places like SuSE or RedHat does. i like debian very much, just wondering if there are other ones out there worth a look at. i don't even know anymore how many linux distros there are... martin [greetings from the heart of the sun]# echo madduck@!#:1:s@\@@@.net -- nobody expects the spanish inquisition. -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe(a)suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help(a)suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/support/faq

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Re: [SLE] goodbye YaST?
by Cliff Sarginson 10 Jan '01

10 Jan '01

> > On Mon, 8 Jan 2001 15:00:40 +0100, MaD dUCK wrote: > > | YaST - i won't even touch YaST2 here - is nice for the beginner and > | the person who wants to use a functional system without worrying too > | much. but YaST is a nightmare for the established linux expert (i am > | blushing just a litte - but please don't consider me arrogant). it's > | the windows syndrome - make administration easier at the cost of > | complicating things and hiding important details. > > > I am an experienced Unix admin on various platforms and SuSE's YaST is one of > the best configuration tools I have seen around. And this is because it keeps > track of huge amounts of dependendies (with dependencies being the price to > pay for using a distribution i.s.o compiling the stuff yourself) Don't want > to trade it for RedHat's junk even if they threw money with it. > Do whatever you want to do but I think you're insane. > > -- > Koos Pol I think yast1 is an excellent tool. I think this discussion has been starting because I believe Suse will junk or at least mothball yast1 - since the commercial boys will be wanting Yast2 for the expo's... and Suse is not going to pay to maintain two complext installation products. But I am certain they will choose the one that barely works but looks nicer (yast2) instead of the one that does work pretty well but looks like a toad's back after a road-accident. Yast2 with suitably doctored demo's setup will probably look like it works properly.. It will be a massive job to substitute for yast1. But if someone wants to do it .. well.. let them.. lol. Cliff > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > S.C. Pol T: +31 20 3116122 > Systems Administrator F: +31 20 3116200 > Compuware Europe B.V. E: koos_pol(a)nl.compuware.com > Amsterdam PGP public key available > > > > -- > To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe(a)suse.com > For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help(a)suse.com > Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/support/faq >

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