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Re: [SuSE Linux] I'm defecting :)
by bobbyg＠ihug.co.nz 09 Jul '99

09 Jul '99

Hi Jon & all, ays I, one of the "colourful." NZ spelling of color/colour..? ;-) Jon Pennington wrote: (Errr, this is partly a quote of another one of us....) > > > However, you can get the different distributions cheaply at a certain > website that I can't remember off the top (or bottom) of my head. Perhaps > someone could help me out... They are about $2 US per CD (or like $20 US > for all 11 CD's they offer). I believe that it is 9 different distros. > <snip> > Or Linux Mall > http://www.linuxmall.com > > I've dealt with Linux Mall on several occasions and recommend them > frequently. I have not dealt with Cheap Bytes, but they seem to have a > larger selection. > > -=|JP|=- (Resident GNUbie) Gotta add that my experience with Linux Mall was dam fine. I recomend them highly. Now, I am off on a holiday, to soak in the "prune machine...." Ok, spa. :-) But will only have access to Crash95. Doh! Gotta buy a laptop... Greek Geek. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/ and the archive at http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html

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[SuSE Linux] Riptide modem/sound card
by ns11＠voicenet.com 09 Jul '99

09 Jul '99

I have an HP-Pavilion 6470Z which, to my horror, is even worse than the dreaded WinModem. The Riptide (made by who used to be Rockwell) is an OEM "solution" that passes for a 56K modem, sound card, MIDI interface and virtual game controller - all which work, in software, under Windows....but not under Linux. My guess is that I have to get another modem and sound card for Linux. Right? --Nick -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/ and the archive at http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html

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Re: [SuSE Linux] I'm defecting :)
by jon_pennington＠excite.com 09 Jul '99

09 Jul '99

On Thu, 08 Jul 1999 09:06:53 +0000, Samy Elashmawy wrote: > > Hi Jon, > > I have been wondering about its optimization for the diffrent cpus, ie pentiums, madK6 ect... I would be nice to know how it compares to suse in instal/system admin and preformance wise. I've already posted this tonight, but in case you missed it..:) Mandrake does seem to be a little 'snappier', that is to say, it's not faster really, but it feels quick. When you initiate something, like opening a KFM window, the display reacts quicker. That does not mean that it comes up in less time, it just starts moving immediately (does that make any sense?). LinuxConf has evolved a lot since the last time I played with it. The interface is friendly, but not overly bloated. Network configuration was very easy, which leads me to the decision that Mandrake will be on my gateway box. I installed YaST (yeah, it worked :) ), so I'm not missing any administration tools. I haven't had a chance to compile a kernel yet (which is the only thing that I ever care about as far as speed), but that really shouldn't be any different. > Would be interested to know how it works out. It's working out well. Not well enough for me to leave SuSE, but it is nice. Maybe I'll teach my girlfriend on a Mandrake box...maybe not. -=|JP|=- (Resident GNUbie) Jon Pennington | SuSE Linux 6.0 jon_pennington(a)excite.com | Kernel 2.2.10 Kansas City, Missouri, USA | K6-2 350 _______________________________________________________ Get your free, private email at http://mail.excite.com/ -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/ and the archive at http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html

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Re: Re[2]: [SuSE Linux] I'm defecting :)
by airedale＠thegrid.net 09 Jul '99

09 Jul '99

www.linuxmall.com or www.cheapbytes.com At 08:04 AM 7/8/99 -0700, you wrote: >Perhaps because there is no standard yet in the world of Linux. What works >in RedHat may not necessarily work in SuSE or Debian or Caldera, etc. With >each distribution, you get software that <definiely> works with that >distribution, as well as support from the distribution company for x amount >of time. However, you can get the different distributions cheaply at a >certain website that I can't remember off the top (or bottom) of my head. >Perhaps someone could help me out... They are about $2 US per CD (or like >$20 US for all 11 CD's they offer). I believe that it is 9 different >distros. > >Steve > >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- >Why does Sea World have a seafood restaurant? I'm > halfway through my fishburger and I realize, "Oh my > goodness....I could be eating a slow learner." >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- >----- Original Message ----- >From: Tony Lambley <tlambley(a)cspops.co.uk> >To: <suse-linux-e(a)suse.com> >Sent: Thursday, July 08, 1999 7:13 AM >Subject: Re[2]: [SuSE Linux] I'm defecting :) > > > > > > > > Being a novice in the linux field, please can someone tell me the >advantage of > > obtaining a new distribution (by any company)? The way I see it once >you're up > > and running you can simply download (size pending) the latest version of >product > > x whenever you want it. Each distribution costs y amount of dosh so it >isn't > > exactly cheap. > > > > Perhaps I'm missing the point? > > > > T. > > > > > > -- > > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/ and the > > archive at http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html > > >-- >To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with >this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e >Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/ and the >archive at http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/ and the archive at http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html

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Re: [SuSE Linux] Autostart X without using xdm
by swa＠ISI.EDU 09 Jul '99

09 Jul '99

Steve, You need to add it to the end of their ".profile". .profile is only run on login time, whereas .bashrc is run for each shell (including an xterm.) Look at the INVOCATION section of the bash manual page if you want more explanation about this. By the way, a slight efficiency hack would be to do "exec startx", instead of "startx".; that takes care of automatically logging out for you too :). You might also want to check what terminal they're logging into, so that you don't try to start X for users who will be logging in over the network. --Steve A Steve Crane wrote: > > I want to set up some users on my box to run only under X but I want others, > like myself and root to log in to the console and optionally start X. > > I presume that I can't use xdm in this case and that I need to have a script > that runs at the end of the login process for some users. I imagine that I > just need to add something like: > > startx > logout > > Where would I do this? I tried putting startx at the end of .bashrc and > although X ran I would get a message saying something like "no session" when > I opened an xterm. -- Steven Augart <swa(a)ISI.EDU> Globus project, USC Information Sciences Institute; http://www.globus.org -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/ and the archive at http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html

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Re: [SuSE Linux] I'm defecting :)
by jon_pennington＠excite.com 09 Jul '99

09 Jul '99

On Thu, 08 Jul 1999 05:22:25 -1000, George Toft wrote: > Jon Pennington wrote: > > > > On Wed, 07 Jul 1999 21:57:17 -1000, George Toft wrote: > > > > > (muttering to himself again) He'll be back. > > > > Who said I was leaving? > > The Subject ??? Sorry, I was just kidding... > > A man can run two keyboards, you know (maybe not > > two women, but certainly two keyboards). :) > > Who needs two keyboards when you have Linux? I run five computers (two are Win95) from one keyboard/monitor. Only additional hardware is a network. > > Linux Rocks. You can say that again. Having used Linux for three years, I've grown quite occustomed to the relaibilty and speed of it's operation. I've used FreeBSD and OS/2 (3&4), which offer similar speed and reliability, but the user communities aren't as ... colorful. I like Linux. I like the little stuffed penguin next to my monitor. I like free software that was meant to be free. I like having the license (if not the inclination) to peruse the source code and change it as I see fit. I like knowing that there are others like me (you folks!). -=|JP|=- (Resident GNUbie) Jon Pennington | SuSE Linux 6.0 jon_pennington(a)excite.com | Kernel 2.2.10 Kansas City, Missouri, USA | K6-2 350 _______________________________________________________ Get your free, private email at http://mail.excite.com/ -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/ and the archive at http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html

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Re: [SuSE Linux] SoundBlaster Live sound card and Intel 3D Express Display card
by jon_pennington＠excite.com 08 Jul '99

08 Jul '99

On Thu, 8 Jul 1999 23:24:04 +0800, Dennis wrote: > The error message: > > modprobe: can't locate module char-major-4 > It came out when probing the Comport (4 of them, ttys0~ttys4). Any idea? You have three options. You could recompile your kernel for generic serial support as a module. Or you could edit /etc/conf.modules so the line that reads `alias char-major-4 ..' reads `alias char-major-4 off'. Or you could just ignore it. It isn't hurting anything, trust me. > I think my HP5L is hopeless, it is some kind of Win printer and don't seem to be working well under Linux. :-( I've heard of many 5L's that work. I understand that you're frustrated, though. > I do not know what to do next on the stupid SBLive, the driver on the Creative website is not working (at least I can't get it to work), can any expert out there get me some light? Two things to remember: First, the driver is a beta module. Second, you can't win *every* time (unless you are me :) ). > I have realised that the 2.2.10 kernel is working so much faster than the 2.0.36 came with the 6.0. Wow... but still no sound. I have found that as well. How fast is your CPU? How much RAM? > Can you briefly teach me how to setup the ppp or DNS or whatever, as I have wondering around for the past 4 hours and nothing is improving, still not internet on Linux. :-( WVDial is the easiest, with pppsetup (available from Slackware mirrors) being my second choice. wvdial.rpm is on disc 1, I think, under series n1. Install it, run it, kill it. Edit /etc/wvdial.conf, run it again *!BOOM!* Internet access! Good luck, Dennis! -=|JP|=- (Resident GNUbie) Jon Pennington | SuSE Linux 6.0 jon_pennington(a)excite.com | Kernel 2.2.10 Kansas City, Missouri, USA | K6-2 350 _______________________________________________________ Get your free, private email at http://mail.excite.com/ -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/ and the archive at http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html

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RE: [SuSE Linux] Lib
by DulingB＠namwater.com.na 08 Jul '99

08 Jul '99

Hi there... > -----Original Message----- > From: Derrick Neve [mailto:dn@microtec.fr] > Sent: 08 July 1999 08:28 > To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com > Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Lib > > > > Jon Pennington wrote: > > > > On Wed, 7 Jul 1999 02:25:50 EDT, MrGuyX3(a)aol.com wrote: > > > > > > > > SuSE 6.1 uses glibc 6.0x right? > > > > Yup. Also known as glibc2.0. We're (probably) hoping for > glibc2.1 for SuSE > > 6.2. Lenz..? > > > I wasn't going to say anything but I can't help it! Can anyone explain > the logic of this numbering system which has confused and tricked me > more than once already? How are we to understand that glibc 6.0 is the > same as glibc 2.0? The way I understand it... it's libc6.0 (not glibc6.0) which is the same thing as glibc2.0, to my knowledge there's no such thing as glibc6.0... glibc6.0 was most likely the result of a type by an over-zealous typist. ;-) Cheers Barry Barry McDuling Engineer (Design, Electrical) Email: dulingb(a)namwater.com.na Webpage: http://users.iafrica.com/b/ba/barrymcd -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/ and the archive at http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html

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[SuSE Linux] More on libz/zlib
by paspartu＠uni.net 08 Jul '99

08 Jul '99

Okay, I have more info on libz/zlib and I need more info on libz/zlib. First: I read more on "linking" objects. The program I was trying to compile erased an error: "/usr/i486-linux/bin/ld: cannot open -lz: No such file or directory" -lz means the linker will look for the file libz.<so/a> in the built-in library path and any dirs specified by -L<dir> with the invocation. The infamous libz package install libz.<so/a> in /usr/X11R6/lib instead of installing it in /usr/lib. There it installed libgz.<so/a>. I would like to have information about this, especially if compared with the RH approach for the zlib library because they install libz only in /usr/lib and didn't change any name in libgz. There are two ways to solve the problem: 1) Add the line "-L/usr/X11R6/lib/" to the compiler options (which I should do every time I compile a package which requires the libz library) 2) Create a few symbolic links: /usr/lib/libz.a -> /usr/X11R6/lib/libz.a /usr/lib/libz.so -> /usr/X11R6/lib/libz.so.1.1.3 /usr/lib/libz.so.1.1.3 -> /usr/X11R6/lib/libz.so.1.1.3 3) There is one more way :-) : Create a new libz/zlib package with the proper patch. Second: In the Red Hat zlib/libz package there are, above others: zlib.h zconf.h zutil.h in SuSE libz/zlib zutil.h is missing. Hope people at SuSE will give me some more details on this topic. Thanks. Maurizio -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/ and the archive at http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html

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Re: [SuSE Linux] Liteon CD-rom
by vidor＠home.se 08 Jul '99

08 Jul '99

Hi Jim, So far I've not been able to get this new CD to run at all. I can't even get the CD tray to open! (Should the tray open without a driver?) Yes, it should!!! It sounds like your CD is not in function at all! I will admit that the diskette that has the Dos driver on it is bad. So I can't install the newst Dos/Win driver. But I thought that I could at least get it to run under Linux. So I went into Yast, to sys admin, to inter. hardware into system, CD-rom Config, took the ATAPI/E-ide option, then took the master on controller 3 option. I took the controler 3 option (/hde) because I thought that that the first card has controler 1 and 2, but I may be wrong. BTW I put the new CD-Rom jumpers on master, but my old CD drive does not have jumpers at all. So I'm not for sure wether it should be master or slave. HDA - controller 1 master HDB - controller 1 slave HDC - controller 2 master HDD - controller 2 slave You must choose the available controller. If you have not any HardDrive on controller 2 you can choose HDC!! If you have some HardDrive on it you have know if it is master or slave. You can NOT have two "things" as master or slave on the same controller!!! I hope this helps! Vidor Sorry about the long post but I want to get all the info in front of you as possible. What do you think? TIA! J I M ----------------------------------------- Jim Hatridge Germany hatridge(a)straubing.baynet.de Proud Linux User #88484 !!!!!!!!!! Micro$oft -- Ghostdriver* on the road to the future! (*German Slang for the guy driving on the wrong side of the road!) ---------------------------------------------- Tired of "King Klinton I" & the Oral Office? Join the Libertarian Party! Check out www.lp.org -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/ and the archive at http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/ and the archive at http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html

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