December 2024 - openSUSE Users - openSUSE Mailing Lists

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by -pj 18 Dec '24

18 Dec '24

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Sound setup failure in OpenSuSE 15.6
by Marc Chamberlin 17 Dec '24

17 Dec '24

I have a computer devoted to handling my media center and recently upgraded it from OpenSuSE 15.5.to 15..6 (KDE X-11 Plasma desktop) and now I am having troubles setting up the sound system. Whenever I right click on the small speaker icon in the kicker bar, to configure the audio devices, and select any one of the playback devices and try to test the speakers, I get the following error - Error trying to play a test sound. The system said: "System error" NOT very helpful IMHO! I have followed, and done what I could do, the suggestions outlined at - https://en.opensuse.org/Sound_troubleshooting but many of the steps ran into the above mentioned "System error". I have no idea how to go about debugging the openSuSE sound subsystem, there doesn't seem to be any log files associated with the sound system to study, nor does the general messages log file show anything about sound system failures. The following shows my sound system hardware components - > # inxi -Aa > Audio: > Device-1: Intel Xeon E3-1200 v3/4th Gen Core Processor HD Audio > driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus-ID: 00:03.0 chip-ID: 8086:0c0c > class-ID: 0403 > Device-2: Intel 9 Series Family HD Audio vendor: Gigabyte > driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus-ID: 00:1b.0 chip-ID: 8086:8ca0 > class-ID: 0403 > Device-3: Creative Labs EMU10k2/CA0100/CA0102/CA10200 [Sound Blaster > Audigy Series] driver: snd_emu10k1 v: kernel bus-ID: 03:00.0 > chip-ID: 1102:0004 class-ID: 0401 > Device-4: BEHRINGER GmbH UMC202HD 192k driver: snd-usb-audio type: USB > rev: 2.0 speed: 480 Mb/s lanes: 1 mode: 2.0 bus-ID: 3-11:6 > chip-ID: 1397:0507 class-ID: fe01 > Device-5: Texas Instruments PCM2900 Audio Codec > driver: hid-generic,snd-usb-audio,usbhid type: USB rev: 1.1 speed: 12 Mb/s > lanes: 1 mode: 1.1 bus-ID: 3-4:3 chip-ID: 08bb:2900 class-ID: 0300 > API: ALSA v: k6.4.0-150600.23.25-default status: kernel-api with: aoss > type: oss-emulator tools: alsactl,alsamixer,amixer > Server-1: PipeWire v: 1.0.5 status: off with: wireplumber status: active > tools: pw-cat,pw-cli,wpctl > Server-2: PulseAudio v: 17.0 status: active (root, process) > with: pulseaudio-alsa type: plugin tools: pacat,pactl As always, all help and suggestions offered are much appreciated, thank you. Marc

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[oS-en] [OT] Double band WiFi and IoT
by Carlos E. R. 17 Dec '24

17 Dec '24

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I have classified the post as OT because it is not about Linux, but the consequences of doing what these IoT tell us to do affect our Linux machines. Excuse possible spelling errors, aspell crashes (locks in black, actually). Long ago I got a router that has the 2.4 Ghz band and the new 5 Ghzx band. The ISP had it configured with two similar but different SSID. Here someone recomended to change to the same SSID and leave it to automatics to choose which band to use. He was right, laptops and phones are happy. Then a few months ago I had installed a remote controller for a water heating system for a house, from Daunier Duval. The technician, when setting up the internet connection for the device, which is done from the phone app, not from a setup menu on the gadget, said that the double band WiFi I had was not compatible, that I had to separate them. OR, we can use the guest band, that typically is separate. We did that and it worked. Yesterday I was setting up a weather station (<https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0DDTG79J2/>). The setting up is done in the phone. You have to download an app, register, and follow the instructions. When it reached the WiFi part, it complained that the phone was on the 5 Ghz band, and the gadget is 2.4 only. The instructions warned that double band is not compatible, and that possibly I'd have to separate the bands. I sat there, puzzled, for a while. I thought about setting up the guest band. But at the end, I told the app to continue, it asked for the SSID password, and the thing worked just fine. Bullet avoided, this time. Why are these IoT gadgets telling us to separate the 2.4 and 5 Ghz bands? What does it matter to them that there is also an SSID with the same name in another band, that the actual gadget can not even see because it is on 5 GHz, and they do not have hardware to receive that band? It is only the app on the phone setup tool which can see the double band and complain. Obviously, sepparating these bands is a bad thing for our (Linux) laptops. But if this happens to you, you have two posibilities: ignore the warning and try, and if it fails, setup the guest WiFi with separate SSIDs or even with no 5Ghz band. - -- Cheers Carlos E. R. (from 15.5 x86_64 at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iHoEARECADoWIQQZEb51mJKK1KpcU/W1MxgcbY1H1QUCZ2Cn2xwccm9iaW4ubGlz dGFzQHRlbGVmb25pY2EubmV0AAoJELUzGBxtjUfVvT8An02mUR5b4jvEdIHR34uJ Ln5/26aEAJ4+WKeIIEVNdcl62zLYq8PuXFgrQg== =002d -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Bluetooth and sound system connection not working
by Marc Chamberlin 15 Dec '24

15 Dec '24

I have another issue that appears to be in the realm of the sound system, this time on my laptop. I am running OpenSuSE 15.6 with the KDE/Plasma desktop. I recently acquired a set of Bluetooth hearing aids and thought, wouldn't it be nice to be able to connect them to my laptop, so that I could listen to AudioBooks or music, without disturbing my wife while working on the laptop. After a bit of head scratching, cursing, etc I got the Bluetooth connection between my hearing aids and the laptop working. (At least according the the Bluetooth widget in the kicker bar) Trouble is, there is no device for my hearing aids showing up in the list of devices my sound system knows about. I installed pavucontrol to see if it saw anything related to a Bluetooth connection to my hearing aids in it's list of output devices, but no it doesn't, only shows my laptop's "Raptor Lake-P/U/H cAVS Pro" sound devices. So no joy getting sound directed to my hearing aids. From my internet searches I found a few suggestions saying don't use the Pulseaudio drivers with Bluetooth devices, but instead use the Pipewire drivers, so I have switched my laptop over to using Pipewire but still no joy. I checked the kernel messages for errors but nothing significant showed up there - > #dmesg | grep Bluetooth [ 6.616455] Bluetooth: Core ver 2.22 [ > 6.616478] Bluetooth: HCI device and connection manager initialized > [ 6.616482] Bluetooth: HCI socket layer initialized [ 6.616484] > Bluetooth: L2CAP socket layer initialized [ 6.616485] Bluetooth: > SCO socket layer initialized [ 6.746371] Bluetooth: hci0: Device > revision is 0 [ 6.746383] Bluetooth: hci0: Secure boot is enabled [ > 6.746388] Bluetooth: hci0: OTP lock is enabled [ 6.746392] > Bluetooth: hci0: API lock is enabled [ 6.746396] Bluetooth: hci0: > Debug lock is disabled [ 6.746404] Bluetooth: hci0: Minimum > firmware build 1 week 10 2014 [ 6.746405] Bluetooth: hci0: > Bootloader timestamp 2019.40 buildtype 1 build 38 [ 6.747644] > Bluetooth: hci0: DSM reset method type: 0x00 [ 6.785281] Bluetooth: > hci0: Found device firmware: intel/ibt-0040-0041.sfi [ 6.785291] > Bluetooth: hci0: Boot Address: 0x100800 [ 6.785292] Bluetooth: > hci0: Firmware Version: 91-33.24 [ 8.264829] Bluetooth: hci0: > Waiting for firmware download to complete [ 8.265480] Bluetooth: > hci0: Firmware loaded in 1445503 usecs [ 8.265546] Bluetooth: hci0: > Waiting for device to boot [ 8.282317] Bluetooth: hci0: Device > booted in 16413 usecs [ 8.282318] Bluetooth: hci0: Malformed MSFT > vendor event: 0x02 [ 8.286451] Bluetooth: hci0: Found Intel DDC > parameters: intel/ibt-0040-0041.ddc [ 8.288321] Bluetooth: hci0: > Applying Intel DDC parameters completed [ 8.291344] Bluetooth: > hci0: Firmware timestamp 2024.33 buildtype 1 build 81755 [ > 94.927759] Bluetooth: BNEP (Ethernet Emulation) ver 1.3 [ > 94.927762] Bluetooth: BNEP filters: protocol multicast [ > 94.927765] Bluetooth: BNEP socket layer initialized [ 94.928631] > Bluetooth: MGMT ver 1.22 [ 125.869741] Bluetooth: RFCOMM TTY layer > initialized [ 125.869749] Bluetooth: RFCOMM socket layer initialized > [ 125.869753] Bluetooth: RFCOMM ver 1.11 My internet research says that the one anomaly showing up - Malformed MSFT vendor event: 0x02 is nothing to worry about. It is caused by a driver not clearing a normal event signal and wrongfully putting it on a stack where higher layers in the sound subsystem don't know what to do with it. There is a patch and write-ups about it at https://github.com/bluez/bluez/issues/877 https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/bluetooth/bluetooth-next.gi… I have installed the following packages, as suggested by my internet research - bluez bluez-auto-enable-devices (and all dependent packages) pipewire pipewire-pulseaudio (and all dependent packages) I read the wiki at https://en.opensuse.org/Bluetooth but found it unhelpful. I suspect it's rather out of date. (seems to talk about stuff that does not apply or exist on my system) Does anyone have any ideas on why my Bluetooth hearing aids are not showing up as sound output capable devices? Got me stumped and as always my gratitude and thanks for helping me solve this little problem... Marc..

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Tumbleweed - Old Friend (man bashbuiltins) Not There ??
by David C. Rankin 15 Dec '24

15 Dec '24

Devs, Since I can remember, suse/opensuse has provided the convenience of collecting the bash builtin functions in a separate man page: $ man bashbuiltins On Tumbleweed, that results in: $ man bashbuiltins No manual entry for bashbuiltins Possibly, man page is not installed, try online at: https://manpages.opensuse.org/bashbuiltins It was there up though Leap 15.4. Anybody know what happened to it? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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Re: Leave Nvidia:repo-non-free Enabled after switching to RX550 using AMDGPU?
by -pj 15 Dec '24

15 Dec '24

On 12-13-2024 12:30PM, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > * -pj via openSUSE Users <users(a)lists.opensuse.org> [12-12-24 23:05]: >>> don't. If you are not using nvidia, remove the nvidia installs from your >>> system. The least effect is utilizing more disk space and download time >>> when duping. >>> >>> zypper -v rm "nvidia packages" >>> zypper -v rl "nvidia repos" >>> >>> w/o removing "nvidia*", you may experience problems which you will not >>> relate to nvidia. >>> >>> ps: I prefer nvidia whenever possible, for very many years. >>> >> Thank you for your response. I have a game that I play with wine. The >> Nvidia K600 Quadro (g05), seems the games resolution was not as good as >> the AMD RX550. Also exiting and entering wine seemed to work better. I >> do not have experience configuring wine. As per the commands you >> suggested above see output below > >> # zypper -v rm "nvidia packages" > > sorry for misleading you, "nvidia packages" = "zypper se -si nvidia" > which you have done below I appreciate your help, at this time the machine is working much better than prior. I am glad I asked this question!

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Where is Plasma (X11) ?
by Pit Suetterlin 15 Dec '24

15 Dec '24

Hi, I just updated one of my computers that had been dormant for > 7 months to the latest Tumbleweed. Now there is no more option for a Plasma X11 session, only for Wayland (which is unusable). How do I get the X11 session back as a login optio in sddm?

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Re: Leave Nvidia:repo-non-free Enabled after switching to RX550 using AMDGPU?
by -pj 15 Dec '24

15 Dec '24

> don't. If you are not using nvidia, remove the nvidia installs from your > system. The least effect is utilizing more disk space and download time > when duping. > > zypper -v rm "nvidia packages" > zypper -v rl "nvidia repos" > > w/o removing "nvidia*", you may experience problems which you will not > relate to nvidia. > > ps: I prefer nvidia whenever possible, for very many years. > Thank you for your response. I have a game that I play with wine. The Nvidia K600 Quadro (g05), seems the games resolution was not as good as the AMD RX550. Also exiting and entering wine seemed to work better. I do not have experience configuring wine. As per the commands you suggested above see output below > # zypper -v rm "nvidia packages" Verbosity: 2 Non-option program arguments: 'nvidia packages' Initializing Target Reading installed packages... 'nvidia packages' not found in package names. Trying capabilities. No provider of 'nvidia packages' found. Resolving package dependencies... Force resolution: Yes Nothing to do. # zypper -v rl "nvidia repos" Verbosity: 2 Non-option program arguments: 'nvidia repos' No lock has been removed. - # zypper se -si nvidia Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... S | Name | Type | Version | Arch | Repository ---+----------------------------------+---------+----------------------+--------+----------- i | kernel-firmware-nvidia | package | 20241128-1.1 | noarch | repo-oss i+ | libnvidia-egl-wayland1 | package | 1.1.16-5.1 | x86_64 | repo-oss i+ | openSUSE-repos-Tumbleweed-NVIDIA | package | 20240712.dd8c2eb-2.1 | x86_64 | repo-oss - Can you please suggest the next step in *purging* the machine of nvidia?

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Has openSUSE considered RSS feed for TW updated packages? (saves resources)
by David C. Rankin 15 Dec '24

15 Dec '24

All, Devs, For Tumbleweed has openSUSE considered setting up an RSS feed for listing updated packages for each of the repos? (may work for Leap too). Arch provides a feed and it is very convenient, e.g. https://archlinux.org/feeds/ The benefit is users don't have to load the mirrors doing repo refreshes to find out what updates are waiting - they are simply listed in the RSS feed. There could be a feed per-repo and users could simply subscribe to the ones they have added. I don't know how much compute resource and bandwidth it would save, but over all user refreshes to check updates, I suspect it is a substantial amount. Serving the RSS feed would take a trivial amount by comparison. Just a stray thought that I thought I would pass on in case anybody wants to look into this. I have 4 feeds for Arch I monitor: - Recent Packages: - core-testing - extra-testing - AUR packages I only need to refresh and update when needed packages are ready. That's kind of nice. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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Install Windows 7 on machine (allow for bios utility to work)?
by -pj 15 Dec '24

15 Dec '24

I am unable to update the bios when in developer mode and execute bios utility update run as 'administrator'... Do you know if I am able to freely obtain a copy of windows 7 for installation on the machine? If so where may this be located at? Thank you

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