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Tumbleweed, SDDM, multimonitor system: question about the ordering of the monitors
by Stakanov 27 Dec '24

27 Dec '24

Hello everybody and seasonal greetings. Having Xsession KDE as default. I have the following setup: An AMD graphics card with 6 DP mini plugs and three monitors branched. One modern monitor with DP on miniDP via direct cable. This is the central one, set in KDE as principal. On its left a hdmi to mini dp via adapter pluged one, and a third with same hdmi to mini DP on the right of the central monitor. that gives: Medion 21" - Lenovo 32"(native miniDP and Medion 23" on the right. Now in KDE that works as expected (with minor glitches). But the order is respected and the cursor is going without interruption from the left to the uttermost right with no issue. The curious and somewhat tedious issue is in SDDM. Cursor may appear on the right or on the left monitor, but never appears at fist on the central one. When moving the cursor on the left Monitor in the direction right, it will block at the right side, on the left border it "jumps" and appears on the right side of the right monitor. Hence SDDM sees the left monitor all on the right, the right monitor rightly on the left of the left monitor and the central monitor can be reached only when going all the way via the right monitor via its left border. Although this is not a blocking bug as you can input your password on any of the monitors you wish and once KDE starts all turns as set. But I would still like to know in what way SDDM "decides" were the monitors are and if there is a way to set them according to the "real world" status. Thank you. DP (display port)

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Internal SSD Toshiba Drive Question (3D NAND and TRIM support):
by -pj 27 Dec '24

27 Dec '24

Hi, I bought two Memory America OCZ TR200 Series 2.5" SATA III 240GB Internal Solid State Drive (THN-TR20Z2400U8(CS) 2.5" THN-TR20Z2400U8(CS ssd drives. https://www.amazon.com/Toshiba-Memory-America-Internal-THN-TR20Z2400U8/dp/B… I recognize now and know they do not have 3D NAND . Also when reading reviews on the Toshiba SSD there are claims that trim is not so great. I think I should return the drives and purchase an internal SSD/S with 3D NAND for best performance? Thanks for your thoughts on this if possible.

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Blocking PackageKit:
by -pj 26 Dec '24

26 Dec '24

Hi, situation: Block Packagekit from running: Do you want PackageKit to never run? # systemctl stop --now packagekit \ && zypper refresh \ && zypper remove --clean-deps PackageKit \ && zypper addlock --comment 'Packagekit was hung, blocking zypper. BYE!' PackageKit The command above fails with the following displayed < Invalid unit name " " escaped as "\x20" (maybe you should use systemd-escape?). Robert Webb provided the mentioned solution above (previously). I am looking the mailing up again right now. The mailing list page was not working. -Regards

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Re: Removing syslog due to journalctl already existing:
by -pj 25 Dec '24

25 Dec '24

On 12-24-2024 10:23AM, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > * -pj via openSUSE Users <users(a)lists.opensuse.org> [12-24-24 09:40]: >> Hi, a mcahine here has journalctl already installed and setup. I have >> discovered here < >> https://doc.opensuse.org/documentation/leap/reference/html/book-reference/c… >> That *no* need to use syslog-ng then... So in order to remove all of the >> packages it (syslog-ng) pulled in when it was installed would be < >> zypper rm -r --dry-run --clean-deps syslog-ng >> Reading installed packages... >> Resolving package dependencies... >> >> The following 4 packages are going to be REMOVED: >> libevtlog-4_8-0 libnet9 syslog-ng syslog-service >> >> 4 packages to remove. >> >> Package install size change: >> | 0 B required by packages that will be installed >> -4.5 MiB | - 4.5 MiB released by packages that will be removed >> >> Backend: classic_rpmtrans >> Continue? [y/n/v/...? shows all options] (y): >> - >> I pressed y and < >> hightower-i5-6600k:~> sudo zypper rm -r --dry-run --clean-deps syslog-ng >> Reading installed packages... >> Resolving package dependencies... >> >> The following 4 packages are going to be REMOVED: >> libevtlog-4_8-0 libnet9 syslog-ng syslog-service >> >> 4 packages to remove. >> >> Package install size change: >> | 0 B required by packages that will be installed >> -4.5 MiB | - 4.5 MiB released by packages that will be removed >> >> Backend: classic_rpmtrans >> Continue? [y/n/v/...? shows all options] (y): y >> Removed '/etc/systemd/system/bootmsg.service'. >> Removed '/etc/systemd/system/basic.target.wants/klog.service'. >> (1/4) Removing: syslog-service-2.0-803.3.noarch >> ..................................................................................................[done] >> Removed '/etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/syslog-ng.service'. >> Removed '/etc/systemd/system/syslog.service'. >> (2/4) Removing: syslog-ng-4.8.1-4.2.x86_64 >> .......................................................................................................[done] >> (3/4) Removing: libnet9-1.3-1.3.x86_64 >> ...........................................................................................................[done] >> (4/4) Removing: libevtlog-4_8-0-4.8.1-4.2.x86_64 >> .................................................................................................[done] >> Running post-transaction scripts >> .................................................................................................................[done] >> - >> I believe the 'dry run' feature in the command above didn't work. > > your are correct, it did not but it was improperly specified, actually as > a repo, "-r" says "Work only with the specified repository" and the repo > would be immediately following "-r" which was "--dry-run". > > I would have thought the command to fail as it is improbable you have a > repo by that name/alias. > >> How should the zypper command have been written? If possible can you >> add -vvv for full verbosity also, and yes, intent is to remove all >> dependencies associated with "syslog-ng" also. > > > zypper -v rm -u syslog-ng > > zypper will request permission to proceed after showing you what it wants > to do. thus, I cannot remember ever employing "--dry-run" Oh, I see 'zypper help rm' many options. -u, --clean-deps Automatically remove unneeded dependencies. 🫥thanks

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Removing syslog due to journalctl already existing:
by -pj 24 Dec '24

24 Dec '24

Hi, a mcahine here has journalctl already installed and setup. I have discovered here < https://doc.opensuse.org/documentation/leap/reference/html/book-reference/c… That *no* need to use syslog-ng then... So in order to remove all of the packages it (syslog-ng) pulled in when it was installed would be < zypper rm -r --dry-run --clean-deps syslog-ng Reading installed packages... Resolving package dependencies... The following 4 packages are going to be REMOVED: libevtlog-4_8-0 libnet9 syslog-ng syslog-service 4 packages to remove. Package install size change: | 0 B required by packages that will be installed -4.5 MiB | - 4.5 MiB released by packages that will be removed Backend: classic_rpmtrans Continue? [y/n/v/...? shows all options] (y): - I pressed y and < hightower-i5-6600k:~> sudo zypper rm -r --dry-run --clean-deps syslog-ng Reading installed packages... Resolving package dependencies... The following 4 packages are going to be REMOVED: libevtlog-4_8-0 libnet9 syslog-ng syslog-service 4 packages to remove. Package install size change: | 0 B required by packages that will be installed -4.5 MiB | - 4.5 MiB released by packages that will be removed Backend: classic_rpmtrans Continue? [y/n/v/...? shows all options] (y): y Removed '/etc/systemd/system/bootmsg.service'. Removed '/etc/systemd/system/basic.target.wants/klog.service'. (1/4) Removing: syslog-service-2.0-803.3.noarch ....................................................................................................[done] Removed '/etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/syslog-ng.service'. Removed '/etc/systemd/system/syslog.service'. (2/4) Removing: syslog-ng-4.8.1-4.2.x86_64 .........................................................................................................[done] (3/4) Removing: libnet9-1.3-1.3.x86_64 .............................................................................................................[done] (4/4) Removing: libevtlog-4_8-0-4.8.1-4.2.x86_64 ...................................................................................................[done] Running post-transaction scripts ...................................................................................................................[done] - I believe the 'dry run' feature in the command above didn't work. How should the zypper command have been written? If possible can you add -vvv for full verbosity also, and yes, intent is to remove all dependencies associated with "syslog-ng" also. -Seasons Best

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Is there any where to look to see if TW updates include CVE fixes or are just build dep updates?
by David C. Rankin 22 Dec '24

22 Dec '24

All, devs, Is there any page suse/openSUSE keeps that can tell us if the updates (upgrades) listed for TW are for security issues? When I just checked for the available updates, they in large part are just different point releases of the same 200 packages I upgraded 3 days ago. It would be helpful to know if the listed updates are security fixes or just point releases for some build dependency that was updated. Is there anywhere to find that information out? I know there is a security list, and that had that type of info on a per package basis (in a bit obscured format), but is that information captured anywhere else that doesn't take subscribing to another list or searching backwards through a list-archive? If not -- that would be another helpful addition. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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tumbleweed: I have an unknown directory in home
by Stakanov 22 Dec '24

22 Dec '24

/home/osrt-repo-checker I have this directory in my home directory. I have no pale idea what program did create it in /home In the properties it does not belong to a user and a group. Does anybody has an idea what is the directory "osrt-repo-checker"? Is this maybe a clamav thing? I found not reference in the internet. There is an OSRTT project for "checking LED monitor latency" but that cannot possibly be the one. Suggestions on how to find out? Thank you.

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nvidia setup puzzler
by Marc Chamberlin 21 Dec '24

21 Dec '24

Hello - I have a system running OpenSuSE 15.5 KDE X11 Plasma desktop, with 2 monitors connect to it. It also has 2 nVidia Quadro K420 video cards, each connected to one of my two monitors. (This computer was given to me, I did not configure the hardware) I have wracked my brains trying to get both System Settings and nvidia-settings to set up the two terminals as clones and I have finally found a solution that works, but I do NOT grok as to why it works. I want to understand so that in the future I can figure out how video configuration works. The following is the non-working version of xorg.conf that was generated by nvidia-settings (with most of the comments removed) - > # nvidia-settings: X configuration file generated by nvidia-settings > # nvidia-settings: version 470.256.02 > > # nvidia-xconfig: X configuration file generated by nvidia-xconfig > # nvidia-xconfig: version 470.256.02 > # Section "Extensions" > # Option "Composite" "Disable" > # Option "RANDR" "Disable" > # EndSection > # Section "Screen" > # Identifier "Screen1" > # Device "Device1" > # Monitor "Monitor1" > # DefaultDepth 24 > # Option "Stereo" "0" > # Option "metamodes" "1920x1080 +0+0 {AllowGSYNC=Off}" > # Option "SLI" "On" > # Option "MultiGPU" "Off" > # Option "BaseMosaic" "Off" > # SubSection "Display" > # Depth 24 > # EndSubSection > # EndSection > > Section "ServerLayout" > Identifier "Layout0" > Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 > Screen 1 "Screen1" Relative "Screen0" 0 0 > InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" > InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer" > Option "Xinerama" "0" > EndSection > > Section "Files" > EndSection > > Section "InputDevice" > Identifier "Mouse0" > Driver "mouse" > Option "Protocol" "IMPS/2" > Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice" > Option "Emulate3Buttons" "yes" > Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" > EndSection > > Section "InputDevice" > Identifier "Keyboard0" > Driver "kbd" > EndSection > > Section "Monitor" > Identifier "Monitor0" > VendorName "Unknown" > ModelName "Westinghouse Digital Electronics LVM-42w2" > DisplaySize 930 520 > HorizSync 30.0 - 80.0 > VertRefresh 60.0 - 75.0 > Gamma 2.2 > Option "DPMS" "true" > EndSection > > Section "Monitor" > Identifier "Monitor1" > VendorName "SAM" > ModelName "SAMSUNG" > DisplaySize 700 390 > HorizSync 15.0 - 68.0 > VertRefresh 24.0 - 75.0 > Gamma 2.2 > Option "DPMS" "true" > EndSection > > Section "Device" > Identifier "Device0" > Driver "nvidia" > VendorName "NVIDIA Corporation" > BoardName "Quadro K420" > BusID "PCI:3:0:0" > EndSection > > Section "Device" > Identifier "Device1" > Driver "nvidia" > VendorName "NVIDIA Corporation" > BoardName "Quadro K420" > BusID "PCI:4:0:0" > EndSection > > Section "Screen" > Identifier "Screen0" > Device "Device0" > Monitor "Monitor0" > DefaultDepth 24 > Option "UseEdid" "True" > Option "AllowEmptyInitialConfiguration" "True" > Option "nvidiaXineramaInfo" "FALSE" > Option "Stereo" "0" > Option "nvidiaXineramaInfoOrder" "DFP-0" > Option "metamodes" "nvidia-auto-select +0+0" > Option "SLI" "Off" > Option "MultiGPU" "Off" > Option "BaseMosaic" "off" > SubSection "Display" > Depth 24 > EndSubSection > EndSection > > Section "Screen" > Identifier "Screen1" > Device "Device1" > Monitor "Monitor1" > DefaultDepth 24 > Option "Stereo" "0" > Option "metamodes" "1920x1080 +0+0 {AllowGSYNC=Off}" > Option "SLI" "Off" > Option "MultiGPU" "Off" > Option "BaseMosaic" "off" > SubSection "Display" > Depth 24 > EndSubSection > EndSection > This produces a strange desktop display, Monitor 0 shows me just the open applications, Konsole windows and the mouse cursor. The mouse cursor is confined to just this one monitor and cannot be moved into what is shown on Monitor 1. That means this is not simply an extended desktop of some kind. Monitor 1 shows me the kicker bar, the background image, and the desktop icons. So it is as if half of the desktop items are being shown on one monitor and half on the other. And the mouse cursor cannot reach any of the components shown on one of the monitors, for example the start menu applications launcher. So after a lot of trials, I finally hit upon a solution. And that is to comment out one line in the ServerLayout section so it becomes this - > Section "ServerLayout" > Identifier "Layout0" > Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 > # Screen 1 "Screen1" Relative "Screen0" 0 0 > InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" > InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer" > Option "Xinerama" "0" > EndSection and that works! The two monitors are now clones, showing everything on the desktop as expected. But I am totally baffled as to why! Commenting out the Screen 1 definition seems to remove half of what was configured by nvidia-settings. And there is nothing in xorg.conf that says the two monitors should be in a clone mode, I did set the two monitors in clone mode in system-settings. I don't grok how that fits in with xorg configuration since system-settings doesn't seem to make any changes to xorg.conf. Is there 2 setup approaches to configuring monitors that are in conflict with each other? My brain hurts, thanks for any enlightenment offered, Marc.

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Re: Is there any where to look to see if TW updates include CVE fixes or are just build dep updates?
by -pj 20 Dec '24

20 Dec '24

On 12-20-2024 03:00PM, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > * -pj via openSUSE Users <users(a)lists.opensuse.org> [12-20-24 15:57]: >> >> >> On 12-20-2024 03:22AM, Masaru Nomiya wrote: >>> Hello, >>> >>> In the Message; >>> >>> Subject : Is there any where to look to see if TW updates include CVE fixes or are just build dep updates? >>> Message-ID : <f0cdcd93-9b66-4bb8-bc30-663dce2f1eca(a)gmail.com> >>> Date & Time: Thu, 19 Dec 2024 22:46:55 -0600 >>> >>> [DCR] == "David C. Rankin" <drankinatty(a)gmail.com> has written: >>> >>> DCR> All, devs, >>> >>> DCR> Is there any page suse/openSUSE keeps that can tell us if the updates >>> DCR> (upgrades) listed for TW are for security issues? When I just >>> DCR> checked for the available updates, they in large part are just >>> DCR> different point releases of the same 200 packages I upgraded 3 >>> DCR> days ago. It would be helpful to know if the listed updates are >>> DCR> security fixes or just point releases for some build dependency >>> DCR> that was updated. >>> [...] >>> >>> How about Change txt on >>> >>> https://download.opensuse.org/tumbleweed/iso/ >>> >>> Best Regards. >>> >>> --- >>> ┏━━┓彡 Masaru Nomiya mail-to: nomiya @ lake.dti.ne.jp >>> ┃＼／彡 >>> ┗━━┛ "Microsoft is overhauling its cybersecurity strategy, called the >>> Secure Future Initiative, to incorporate key security features >>> into its core set of technology platforms and cloud services. " >>> >>> -- Microsoft overhauls cyber strategy to finally embrace security by default -- >> That link is incorrect date, use this one < >> https://download.opensuse.org/tumbleweed/iso/Changes.20241217.txt >> -Seasons Hopes🫥 > > the link is ok. it lets one choose the date while your's is *only* for > 20241217 :) > Ok thanks, -Seasons Best

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3 pairs of xeyes?
by bent fender 19 Dec '24

19 Dec '24

I have a line in ~/.profile that calls a script which in turn includes: if [ "$desktop" = "kde" ] then echo "it is kde" xeyes -geometry 70x50+36+420 & xeyes -geometry 70x50+1750+420 & else echo "No kde, no xeyes" fi Which 'used to' give me 2 pairs of xeyes nestled between the two deskbar panels on the sides. Lately however I've ben getting 3 of them: https://imgur.com/2M5Zbil.png In this image (made to brag about my not usb but SATA desktop external bay) you can see my monitor showing the KDE plasma desktop photographed as part of my IKEA pine desktop then reloaded as a desktop wallpaper before that desktop being snapped up to imgur. I 'suspect' SDDM which begins with a lo-res desktop (the two pairs of xeyes on the left) but then they get redrawn as the desktop rolls into high-res with the left one being repeated in the same place as the first time. I have NO CLUE really, just poking around. What gives?

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