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[opensuse] Why doesn't open suse use "side-by-side" versioned libraries?
by Linda Walsh 20 Jun '15

20 Jun '15

I've done this manually and had it work in selective cases, but if apps don't know to ask for a specific version of a lib, it won't ever work. Example -- some people have a cow over what version of perl is installed... but libperl.so could easily be a symlink to libperl-5.so -> libperl-5.20.so <- libperl-5.20.1.so, At the same time, libperl.5.18.so and libperl 5.16.so could be present for apps to link tot he major version (usually libperl-5.X.so) that they need. For some reason some people have a bug up their bonnet and claim patch-level locking is necessary. Yet most of the time, (not all) I can point apps that think they have to have 5.18.1 or 5.20.1 all at a libperl.so which is a perl-5.16.3, and they work fine -- with the vital bit that the cpan-lib modules that have been pulled in are 'recompiled' (cpan manpage: -r Recompiles dynamically loaded modules with CPAN::Shell->recompile. ). Now I know that can be tedious, but giving the option to recompile is one way to keep things in sync -- but having those modules that requires a specific version -- LINK to the version they need. Instead, all the system app claim they have to link to libperl.so and then hardcode the patch-level into perl and all linkables. Microsoft solved this problem over 5 years ago using versioned libraries that are loaded side-by-side (it's not a case of 1st version that gets loaded blocks other versions (as used to be the case either preVista or preWin7..) But now, they can support apps & games from 10 years ago -- with no recompile and no source. Can someone explain why opensuse can't do something similar? 10-15 years ago at SGI, they not only used dynamically loaded libs... but configured the gui pages with what menus to show based on the available dynamic libs! Very cool. So can someone explain why some of the OpnSus devs go crazy over compatibility subjects? You'd think compatibility was a 'bad word' or bad think to have, but it used to be considered a selling feature. So when and why did it become 'evil'? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse] openSUSE 13.1 - KDE - Is it possible to set 802.11 mode
by James Knott 20 Jun '15

20 Jun '15

On 06/18/2015 10:32 PM, John Andersen wrote: > On 6/18/2015 7:09 PM, James Knott wrote: >> I'm running 13.1 on a ThinkPad that's capable of 802.11 b, g & n. Is it >> possible to select a specific mode? Today, I wanted to do some testing >> to ensure that b & g couldn't connect into an access point configured >> for n only, but I had to run Windows to do it. Is there any way to do >> this, without having to boot into the dark side? I'm using the KDE >> network manager. >> >> tnx jk >> > This isn't something controlled by KDE, but rather by the driver > (The binary blob) that is loaded at run time to manage the wifi card. > > So you need to start by telling us the name of the wifi card, the chipset > manufacturer. > > Usually a command like /sbin/lspci will print out a list of > things, and usually there is something in there mentioning wifi or 802.11b/g. > > >From there someone will probably be able to help you to obtain the proper > firmware from the net and install it. > > > /sbin/lspci 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family DRAM Controller (rev 09) 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09) 00:16.0 Communication controller: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family MEI Controller #1 (rev 04) 00:1a.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family USB Enhanced Host Controller #2 (rev 04) 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 04) 00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port 1 (rev b4) 00:1c.1 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port 2 (rev b4) 00:1c.2 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port 3 (rev b4) 00:1c.3 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port 4 (rev b4) 00:1c.7 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port 8 (rev b4) 00:1d.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family USB Enhanced Host Controller #1 (rev 04) 00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation HM65 Express Chipset Family LPC Controller (rev 04) 00:1f.2 SATA controller: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family 6 port SATA AHCI Controller (rev 04) 00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family SMBus Controller (rev 04) 02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 06) 03:00.0 System peripheral: Ricoh Co Ltd PCIe SDXC/MMC Host Controller (rev 07) 08:00.0 Network controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8188CE 802.11b/g/n WiFi Adapter (rev 01) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] openSUSE 13.1 - KDE - Is it possible to set 802.11 mode
by James Knott 19 Jun '15

19 Jun '15

I'm running 13.1 on a ThinkPad that's capable of 802.11 b, g & n. Is it possible to select a specific mode? Today, I wanted to do some testing to ensure that b & g couldn't connect into an access point configured for n only, but I had to run Windows to do it. Is there any way to do this, without having to boot into the dark side? I'm using the KDE network manager. tnx jk -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Lenovo T550 (Intel HD5500) experience?
by Andrei Borzenkov 18 Jun '15

18 Jun '15

I'm considering renewing my notebook and look for Lenovo T550 with Intel HD5500 and Full HD 19200x1080 display. I do not know what wireless is inside (this information is mostly unavailable on web sites). I have Lenovo product number but it is not present in product lists I can see on Lenovo site (not much surprised); in case someone knows it, it is 20CK001WRT. Anyone has practical experience? Question is mostly about video, wireless and touchpad/track point compatibility . Support for internal card reader is of course a bonus. Thank you! -andrei -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse] install KVM
by Tao Bian 17 Jun '15

17 Jun '15

I think found the problem. Just updated qemu-ipxe Thanks for the help! — Sincerely, Tao Bian > On Jun 17, 2015, at 17:51, Tao Bian <tideabyan(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Ok. I updated repo and reinstalled qemu-seabios. Now I have bios-256k. But the following error occurs: > > internal error: process exited while connecting to monitor: qemu-system-x86_64: -device e1000,netdev=hostnet0,id=net0,mac=52:54:00:58:6a:83,bus=pci.0,addr=0x3: failed to find romfile "efi-e1000.rom" > qemu-system-x86_64: -device e1000,netdev=hostnet0,id=net0,mac=52:54:00:58:6a:83,bus=pci.0,addr=0x3: Device 'e1000' could not be initialized > > It seems there is something wrong with my network adapter. > — > > Sincerely, > > Tao Bian > > > >> On Jun 17, 2015, at 16:49, Malcolm <malcolmlewis(a)cableone.net> wrote: >> >> On Wed, 17 Jun 2015 16:21:49 -0400 >> Tao Bian <tideabyan(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> No good. It shows the error "qemu: could not load PC BIOS >>> ‘bios-256k.bin’ It seems that the file ‘bios-256k.bin’ is not >>> in /usr/share/qemu/ >>> >> >> Hi >> Install qemu-seabios ;) >> >> -- >> Cheers Malcolm °¿° LFCS, SUSE Knowledge Partner (Linux Counter #276890) >> SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop 12 GNOME 3.10.1 Kernel >> 3.12.43-52.6-default up 6:36, 3 users, load average: 0.36, 0.42, 0.30 >> CPU AMD A4-5150M APU @ 3.3GHz | GPU Richland Radeon HD 8350G >> >> >> -- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org >> To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org >> > -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse] install KVM
by Malcolm 17 Jun '15

17 Jun '15

On Wed, 17 Jun 2015 16:21:49 -0400 Tao Bian <tideabyan(a)gmail.com> wrote: > No good. It shows the error "qemu: could not load PC BIOS > ‘bios-256k.bin’ It seems that the file ‘bios-256k.bin’ is not > in /usr/share/qemu/ > Hi Install qemu-seabios ;) -- Cheers Malcolm °¿° LFCS, SUSE Knowledge Partner (Linux Counter #276890) SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop 12 GNOME 3.10.1 Kernel 3.12.43-52.6-default up 6:36, 3 users, load average: 0.36, 0.42, 0.30 CPU AMD A4-5150M APU @ 3.3GHz | GPU Richland Radeon HD 8350G -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Firefox troubles
by Mark Hounschell 17 Jun '15

17 Jun '15

I'm running 13.2 (x64) with Firefox 38.0.1 from SuSE. I frequently run into sites that causes FF to just hang for several seconds (10-30). My wifes box, running the same stuff has recently had the same issue. She notices it mostly when she is on her banks web site. She contacted her bank and they said it was a known issue with all versions of FF higher than 36.x.x. That does make me believe what we are seeing is NOT really a SuSE Linux FF issue but even FF higher than 36.0.0 on MS OS. Has anyone any knowledge of this issue? Thanks Mark -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse] install KVM
by Malcolm 17 Jun '15

17 Jun '15

On Wed, 17 Jun 2015 13:47:02 -0400 Tao Bian <tideabyan(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Yes. I’ve installed yast2-vm > > Thought something is broken. But there is no error during the > installation. > Hi As root user run virt-manager and setup that way? -- Cheers Malcolm °¿° LFCS, SUSE Knowledge Partner (Linux Counter #276890) SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop 12 GNOME 3.10.1 Kernel 3.12.43-52.6-default up 4:24, 3 users, load average: 0.06, 0.09, 0.15 CPU AMD A4-5150M APU @ 3.3GHz | GPU Richland Radeon HD 8350G -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] install KVM
by Tao Bian 17 Jun '15

17 Jun '15

Hi guess: I’ve been trying to install KVM on my opensuse 13.1 box. But I cannot find the "Install Hypervisor and Tools” in yast2, after installing the KVM components. Does any one has any clue? Thank you very much for help! — Sincerely, Tao -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] uninstall dolphin and konqueror??
by George Olson 17 Jun '15

17 Jun '15

Howdy all, I try to do a zypper patch at least once a week. This morning when I went to do the patch, this is something that came up: ------ # zypper patch Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... Resolving package dependencies... The following item is locked and will not be changed by any action: Available: apper The following 15 NEW patches are going to be installed: openSUSE-2015-398 openSUSE-2015-399 openSUSE-2015-402 openSUSE-2015-404 openSUSE-2015-405 openSUSE-2015-407 openSUSE-2015-408 openSUSE-2015-411 openSUSE-2015-412 openSUSE-2015-415 openSUSE-2015-416 openSUSE-2015-417 openSUSE-2015-418 openSUSE-2015-420 openSUSE-2015-421 The following 2 applications are going to be REMOVED: Dolphin Konqueror The following 75 packages are going to be upgraded: akonadi akregator btrfsprogs coreutils.... ------- So I am wondering, why would the system be set up to uninstall dolphin and konqueror on a simple patch? I use these all the time. Is there another file manager that is going to replace dolphin? What about konqueror? -- George Box #1: 13.1 | KDE 4.12 | AMD Phenom IIX4 | 64 | 16GB Box #2: 13.1 | KDE 4.12 | AMD Athlon X3 | 64 | 4GB Laptop #1: 13.1 | KDE 4.12 | Core i7-2620M | 64 | 8GB Laptop #2: 13.2 | KDE 4.14 | Core i7-4710HQ | 64 | 16GB -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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