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[opensuse] Systemd, batch files, tomcat and webapps
by John Connor 12 Apr '13

12 Apr '13

Background: I run a small school server in Kolin in the Czech Republic. The server is running OpenSUSE 12.2, 32 bits. I was asked to install a webapp (OLAT, Online Learning and Teaching, by the University of Zurich). This was our first webapp, so I installed Tomcat 7 and the JDK, then OLAT. Tomcat worked without problems, and all the webapps bundled with Tomcat also work. OLAT, however, refused to deploy. To cut a long story short, I discovered that OLAT would deploy and functioned correctly only when Tomcat was NOT launched using systemd. If I launched Tomcat via the command line, using batch files not registered with systemd, everything was OK. But using Yast runlevel editor to launch Tomcat somehow invokes systemd, and then OLAT will not deploy. This presented me with the problem of how to start Tomcat after a reboot, since I couldn't use the run-level editor and if I understand correctly inittab is also not available under systemd. In the end I used a fairly horrible hack - I used an @reboot tag in the root crontab. This restarts Tomcat on reboot without involving systemd directly, and everything works. My users are happy, but I'm not. Several questions: 1) does anybody have any explanation for this bizarre behaviour? 2) Why is the execution of some batch files (in this case /etc/init.d/tomcat) intercepted by systemd, while the execution of others is not? How can I break this link? (renaming the tomcat.service file didn't make any difference) 3) If I want to start something at or shortly after boot without using systemd, is there an "official" way to do it? I thought the problem might lie in some difference in the environment between a command-line launch and a systemd launch, so I duplicated the commandline environment using printenv > file, then used <file> in an EnvironmentFile directive in the tomcat.service file. It made no difference. I don't want to get into the systemd is better/worse than systemV debate, but I will observe that the way systemd "takes over" some batch files made debugging much more difficult. That may be just my ignorance talking. Thanks for any help John Connor -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Maintenance 12.3 heads up: KDE 4.10.2 release via online update
by Marcus Meissner 12 Apr '13

12 Apr '13

Hi, The KDE and the openSUSE Maintenance team will try something a bit new now ... We will be releasing a KDE Minor version update via the update channel. So currently in preparation is KDE 4.10.2 and unless we find an issue we will release it begin of next week. You can already test it via either the test update channel http://download.opensuse.org/update/12.3-test/ or via its maintenance projects update channel: http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/Maintenance:/1553/openS… Ciao, Marcus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse] Ugly names for disks
by Peter 12 Apr '13

12 Apr '13

On 11/4/13 14:39, Greg Freemyer wrote: > There are 2 issues you are apparently hitting: > > - fstab is being ignored > - udisks2 defaults to /run/media/<user> > > The fstab issue is a bug and hopefully your bugzilla will be addressed. > > The new udisks2 default is a feature. The rules file that was recommended is a permanent change and will likely impact all distros. The ability to create the new shared rule is new, as in post 12.3 gold release from just a month ago. > > Distros like opensuse that have been shipping udisks2 for a while will be reluctant to ship that new rule automatically, so you will likely see the same default mount point of /run/... on numerious distros. Okay thanks for the explanation. It's a lot clearer now. I'm inclined to hold out for the moment and hope for a bug fix, else I end up with changed configurations and issues I've forgotten all about months down the line. Cheers, Peter -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse] 12.3 + ntfs + ext4 + USB3 + different copying speeds
by Per Jessen 12 Apr '13

12 Apr '13

Basil Chupin wrote: > And so....what has been resolved? Anything? Nothing - Greg has seen that copying ~1000 large files from NTFS to NTFS over USB3 can be done with decent IO-rates. You're seeing something quite different when copying <something> from internal SATA to NTFS over USB3. That you get such different results probably warrants digging a little deeper. > Rather interesting that nobody with any "inside knowledge" about > ntfs-3g is put together has commented or made suggestions as to why > there are such differences in the transfer rates - especially in the > light of what is written in the wikipedia (which I quoted). It is rather unlikely that anyone with inside ntfs-3g knowledge is listening in. If you want to get the bottom of this, you need to start by eliminating/reducing the variables. Hardware differences - comparable disks? Only copy files with 'dd' using a fixed blocksize. Copy the same set of files - similar to Gregs if you want to compare. Reformat the target partitions every time you do a test. Etcetera. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (9.2°C) http://www.dns24.ch/ - free DNS hosting, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse] Ugly names for disks
by Peter 11 Apr '13

11 Apr '13

> On 11/04/13 12:49, Basil Chupin wrote: >> On 11/04/13 01:10, Basil Chupin wrote: >> But your response did make me aware of what his original post was >> all about which is that he is talking about 12.2 where he has the >> USB showing in fstab. From *my* perspective the only reason why you >> would you would have a USB device listed in fstab is if it is always >> switched ON when the computer is booted. If he connects the USB when >> he really needs it then removing it from fstab would make it mount >> in /media which is what always happens in 12.2 (as I just proved). > > <shampoo, snip and blow dry> > > As I stated in another list, <sarcastic mode engaged> there is > nothing like consistency between distros. And it's even better when > it occurs within the same distro. <sarcastic mode disengaged> > > The OP didn't mention that he was using Gnome. And I never used it > except as an experiment many many years ago. > > So it is interesting to learn what you just mentioned. Another > "gotcha" to clear when someone asks a question: ask them if they are > using KDE or Gnome. This particular 12.2 machine is running xfce, so I assume it would be following GNOME's udisks rules by default? The forum post I linked to (https://forums.opensuse.org/english/get-technical-help-here/applications/48…) explains my own use case and motives for wanting this arrangement. The external drive spends 90% of its time attached to the xfce box, and I want the files on it accessible to other users from a consistent location (i.e. not one with <username> in the path) as if it's a permanent storage location, and with control over the permissions. When I plug it into other machines, however, it's principally for my copying files and backing up and it's not so important that it be in the fstab as I'm the only one using it. The various responses so far still don't leave me clear what the 'proper' fix for this should be. I don't know if the suggestions offered are to be considered as 'workarounds' or the way I'm expected to do things forever more. I say this because the way it worked until a few weeks ago was the way it's been for a long time and it suited me fine and made sense. The forum posters advised me that this has occurred before, years ago, it was registered as a bug and fixed, and that fstab prefs should never be overridden, as though that's a fundamental principal. So I don't know if I should be expecting that this gets 'fixed', the bug report attended to and everything returned to how it was before, or I'm supposed to adapt to a new (if less satisfactory) solution? And is this an openSUSE way of doing things or a universal change that's occurring across Linux distros? (not having a dig, appreciate the help, just confused) Cheers, Peter -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] icmp redirects being ignored (12.3)
by Per Jessen 11 Apr '13

11 Apr '13

I have just upgraded a desktop box from 11.4 to 12.3 - I was prepared to have to reinstall from scratch, but it appears to have worked very well! Sofar the only problem seems to be that the box is ignoring ICMP redirects. I've checked the settings: cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/*/accept_redirects 1 1 1 1 I've also checked the routing table shortly after having received a redirect, and the redirect isn't there. The firewall is inactive. I must be missing something? -- Per Jessen, Zürich (8.6°C) http://www.dns24.ch/ - free DNS hosting, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] [12.3 64Bit KDE]-Boot Failure After Update Today? HELP!!!
by Jesse Palser 11 Apr '13

11 Apr '13

[12.3 64Bit KDE]-Boot Failure After Update Today? HELP!!! Hi, I am running openSUSE 12.3 64Bit KDE fully updated. Everything was perfect until I updated today and rebooted. Now I can't boot into the Operating System? When I turn on computer I get a strange menu called: "Shim UEFI key management" ??? What do I do now? Please help me fix this booting issue. Thanks! Jesse -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse] Ugly names for disks
by Peter 11 Apr '13

11 Apr '13

On 10/04/13 22:03, Basil Chupin wrote: > Well, what do you know...a coincidence or what? :-) > > Today there happens to be a new moon and I just applied the "fix" > which Patrick provided to have USB devices when connected to mount in > /media -- and the fix also works in udisks2 :-) . Slightly tangential, but since somebody's actively fixing things in this department, could you take a look at a related bug I raised a few weeks ago? On openSUSE 12.2, following some online update a while back (I think related to udisks but I may be wrong), a USB hard drive I have listed in the fstab no longer gets mounted at the location I specified and instead finds itself at /run/media/[username]/[device name]. I raised the issue on the forums (https://forums.opensuse.org/english/get-technical-help-here/applications/48…) and according to a couple of folk there this is a bug / regression that should be raised as such, since what is specified in the fstab should never be overridden by desktop settings. I opened a bug report last month but so far no response at all, and I've not seen any fix come through in the updates (haven't checked for a few days). Here's the bugzilla: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=809805 This bug occurs on a 12.2 machine running xfce with the device set to automount. On my laptop with 12.3 and KDE, I have the same device in my fstab but set to noauto, and when I plug it in I can access it at the location specified in fstab. Whether that's a fix in 12.3 or a difference in KDE's handling I'm not sure. Cheers, Peter -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Miro can not start on openSUSE 12.3 x86_64
by Ricardo Chung 11 Apr '13

11 Apr '13

Does anyone able to start or use Miro on openSUSE 12.3 x86_64 KDE? I made a clean install with all updates installed too. Unfortunately, it does not make any difference. I posted several days ago on packman mail list with no response or comments. So I hope someone could offer some feedback about. Appreciation in advanced. -- Ricardo Chung | Panama Ambassador openSUSE Projects -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] [12.3 64Bit KDE]-Name Label Of SD Card When Formatting-YaST2?
by Jesse Palser 11 Apr '13

11 Apr '13

[12.3 64Bit KDE]-Name Label Of SD Card When Formatting-YaST2? Hi, Running openSUSE 12.3 64Bit KDE fully updated. My desktop has a built-in SD card reader which does work in openSUSE. How do I change the name label of the SD card when formatting in YaST2 Expert Partitioner? Thanks! Jesse -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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