openSUSE Users May 2010

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by Greg Freemyer

All, Intentional top post / new thread because the main question seems to have been lost in the clutter. Is there a way, via zypper, I can easily see which repo yast2-mail is currently using, and which one has the updated version? ie. It seems a vendor change is needed and zypper up is therefore simply telling me it is skipping that package. Now I want to dig into that a little more. fyi: I assume I could launch yast and look at the versions tab, but I'd like to handle this via zypper since it seems to be getting better and better. Greg On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 4:49 PM, Greg Freemyer <greg.freemyer(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 4:33 PM, Marcus Meissner <meissner(a)suse.de> wrote: > > On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 05:28:43PM -0300, Marco Calistri wrote: > >> Greg Freemyer ha scritto: > >> > All, > >> > > >> > I just ran zypper up and it gave me the normal list of things it was > >> > going to upgrade, but also a list it was not going to upgrade. What > >> > is the list of not upgraded about? It seems surprisingly long. See > >> > below. > >> > > >> > I particularly interested in the kernel packages its not upgrading. > >> > > >> > === > >> > sudo zypper up > >> > root's password: > >> > Retrieving repository 'KDE:KDE4:Factory:Desktop' metadata [done] > >> > Building repository 'KDE:KDE4:Factory:Desktop' cache [done] > >> > Retrieving repository 'YaST:Web' metadata [done] > >> > Building repository 'YaST:Web' cache [done] > >> > Loading repository data... > >> > Reading installed packages... > >> > > >> > The following package updates will NOT be installed: > >> > autoconf automake bash bash-doc desktop-file-utils > >> > evolution-data-server faad2 ffmpeg gnome-keyring gnome-keyring-32bit > >> > gnome-keyring-lang gstreamer-0_10-plugins-base > >> > gstreamer-0_10-plugins-base-lang gstreamer-0_10-plugins-good > >> > kernel-debug kernel-debug-devel kernel-default kernel-default-devel > >> > kernel-desktop-devel kernel-docs kernel-source > >> > kernel-syms kernel-trace kernel-trace-devel kernel-xen > >> > kernel-xen-devel kupdateapplet kupdateapplet-packagekit libavcodec52 > >> > libavdevice52 libavformat52 libavutil50 libfaad2 > >> > libgpod4 libgpod-tools libkdecore4-32bit libphonon4-32bit > >> > libpostproc51 libreadline6 libreadline6-32bit libschroedinger-1_0-0 > >> > libswscale0 libv4l lighttpd lighttpd-mod_magnet > >> > PackageKit readline-devel readline-doc rubygem-actionmailer-2_3 > >> > rubygem-actionpack-2_3 rubygem-activerecord-2_3 > >> > rubygem-activeresource-2_3 rubygem-activesupport-2_3 rubygem-rack > >> > rubygem-rails-2_3 rubygem-rake rubygems rubygem-sqlite3 sysvinit > >> > Vuze-libswt3-gtk2 webyast-base-ui xdg-utils xkeyboard-config > >> > yast2-mail yast2-registration > >> > yast2-registration-branding-openSUSE > >> > . > >> > . > >> > . > >> > . > >> > === > >> > > >> > Thanks > >> > Greg > >> > >> That's an interesting question; me too am seeing it from awhile. > >> > >> We could try to compare the installed pkg against the repository updates > >> with "zypper info <pkg-name>" to see if the installed version is the > >> latest available. > >> > >> Other aspect IMHO is worth to mention is the slight difference of > >> packageKit's behaviour, with the one of zypper: sometimes they reports a > >> different scenario about update availability. > > > > To see what the problem with those updates are , try: > > > > e.g. > > zypper in yast2-mail > > > > it will show the conflicts you need to resolve. > > > > Ciao, Marcus > > Marcus, > > I tried exactly that and it looks like a yast2-mail is a repo / vendor > change. I don't recall getting yast2-mail as an example from a > non-standard repo. (I do have several repo's in my list, see below). > > Is there a way I can easily see which repo yast2-mail is currently > using, and which one has the updated version? > > == > sudo zypper in yast2-mail > root's password: > Loading repository data... > Reading installed packages... > 'yast2-mail' is already installed. > There is an update candidate for 'yast2-mail', but it is from > different vendor. Use 'zypper install yast2-mail-2.18.5-2.1.noarch' to > install this candidate. > Resolving package dependencies... > > Nothing to do. > == > > == > > sudo zypper lr > # | Alias | Name > | Enabled | Refresh > ---+---------------------------------+---------------------------------+---------+-------- > 1 | KDE:KDE4:Factory:Desktop | KDE:KDE4:Factory:Desktop > | Yes | Yes > 2 | Kernel:HEAD | Kernel:HEAD > | Yes | Yes > 3 | X11:lxde | X11:lxde > | Yes | Yes > 4 | YaST:Web | YaST:Web > | Yes | Yes > 5 | devel:languages:ruby:extensions | devel:languages:ruby:extensions > | Yes | Yes > 6 | devel:tools:building | devel:tools:building > | Yes | Yes > 7 | download.opensuse.org-oss | Main Repository (DEBUG) > | Yes | Yes > 8 | download.opensuse.org-standard | Main Repository (Contrib) > | Yes | Yes > 9 | download.videolan.org-SuSE | VideoLan Repository > | Yes | Yes > 10 | ftp.skynet.be-suse | Packman Repository > | Yes | Yes > 11 | home:poletti_marco | home:poletti_marco > | Yes | Yes > 12 | openSUSE:Tools | openSUSE:Tools > | Yes | Yes > 13 | openSUSE_11.2_Non-OSS | openSUSE 11.2 Non-OSS > | Yes | Yes > 14 | openSUSE_11.2_Oss | openSUSE 11.2 Oss > | Yes | Yes > 15 | openSUSE_11.2_Updates | openSUSE 11.2 Updates > | Yes | Yes > == > > Thanks > Greg -- Greg Freemyer Head of EDD Tape Extraction and Processing team Litigation Triage Solutions Specialist http://www.linkedin.com/in/gregfreemyer CNN/TruTV Aired Forensic Imaging Demo - http://insession.blogs.cnn.com/2010/03/23/how-computer-evidence-gets-retrie… The Norcross Group The Intersection of Evidence & Technology http://www.norcrossgroup.com -- Greg Freemyer Head of EDD Tape Extraction and Processing team Litigation Triage Solutions Specialist http://www.linkedin.com/in/gregfreemyer CNN/TruTV Aired Forensic Imaging Demo - http://insession.blogs.cnn.com/2010/03/23/how-computer-evidence-gets-retrie… The Norcross Group The Intersection of Evidence & Technology http://www.norcrossgroup.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] KDE defaults after upgrade from 10.3 to 11.2

by Roger Oberholtzer

I did an update of a 10.3 system to openSUSE 11.2. I used the 11.2 DVD to do this (not zypper). As part of the update, I let the updater add the on-line 11.2 updates. No KDE repos are added. Just the 11.2 update that the install adds. For the most part all went well. Except that the desktop looks crappy, even for a user created after the update was completed. The most obvious problem is that the panel at the bottom is black, and the text on it black. Or, when leaving the desktop, the window is black with black text. ICONS are OK. There is something that is obviously not to plan. I also tried deleting the $HOME/.kde and $HOME/.kde4 directories, hoping that they would be better when the user logs in again. Nope. Same badness. Maybe this is not enough to remove to force regeneration of the user settings? Oddly, the root user has a correct appearance. No other user. I am guessing that when the system was updated, the default settings that a KDE user should get have not been properly updated. I do not know where to look for this, if that is even what it is. I am guessing that I could fiddle with a user's settings and get it looking good again. However, this is not really an option for this machine. We are trying to see how well it works to let users log with Windows Active Directory verification (which works so very nicely!). I would have to do this for each user after they create their login. Umm, no... I did follow many of the discussions about settings problems in kde 4. Most of those seemed to be about messing up old settings, and seemed to be more of an issue in older KDE 4 releases. I sort of thought the KDE in the 11.2 update directory had most of this sorted out. I use it on my 11.2-from-the-beginning system and have no complaints. I am guessing the damage was done in the initial KDE install in the 11.2 upgrade. But I might be wrong. Where to start? -- Roger Oberholtzer OPQ Systems / Ramböll RST Ramböll Sverige AB Krukmakargatan 21 P.O. Box 17009 SE-104 62 Stockholm, Sweden Office: Int +46 10-615 60 20 Mobile: Int +46 70-815 1696 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

12 years

[opensuse] BASH - better way to get total number of files matching glob??

by David C. Rankin

Guys, Doing a quick backup of config files (like .bashrc) from within bashrc and I need to find a better way to find the total number of files matching a glob in a directory. Currently I'm using: total=$(ls $budir/bashrc-* | wc -l) to determine how many copies I have in my bashrc.tar.bz2 backup + the new one I just copied to the backup location so I can determine the number to delete to just save the last 3 when I tar it up again. The ls | wc combination works fine, but I don't like the fact that there is a pipe in the middle of it. If there is a cleaner way to do it, let me know. P.S. Yes, I've added an alias too many times by doing "alias xzy='whatever' >~/.bashrc" -- thus the quick backup from within bashrc :p Of course if I would just remember >> I'd be just fine.... -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

12 years

[opensuse] Midori on Suse 11.2

by Constant Brouerius van Nidek

Heard somewhere enthusiastic comments about the web browser Midori. Went to Yast and found it there. Installed it and wanted to have a look at this small web browser. Found it back in the menu and started it. And now I need help :) First info I received was: ----------- gcjwebplugin error: Failed to run/etc/alternatives/../../bin/java. For more detail rerun "firefox -g" in a terminal window ----------- Looked in /etc/alternatives/../../bin/java which did not help me much. Running firefox -g gave me Firefox and following message: ----------- nss-shared-helper NSS_USE_SHARED_DB enable ----------- Could not find nss-shared-helper. No idea where that would be hidden. Finally I ran midori in konsole which gave me following output. ---------- ~> midori /usr/src/packages/BUILD/icedtea6-1.7.3/plugin/icedteanp/IcedTeaNPPlugin.cc:1427: thread 0x80f5738: Error: Failed to spawn applet viewer: Failed to execute child process "/etc/alternatives/../../bin/java" (No such file or directory) *** NSPlugin Viewer *** ERROR: /usr/lib/browser- plugins/skypebuttons.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory *** NSPlugin Viewer *** ERROR: /usr/lib/browser- plugins/skypebuttons.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory *** NSPlugin Wrapper *** ERROR: failed to initialize plugin-side RPC client connection *** NSPlugin Wrapper *** WARNING: (/usr/src/packages/BUILD/nspluginwrapper-1.2.2/src/npw- wrapper.c:3156):invoke_NP_Initialize: assertion failed: (rpc_method_invoke_possible(g_rpc_connection)) *** NSPlugin Wrapper *** WARNING: (/usr/src/packages/BUILD/nspluginwrapper-1.2.2/src/npw- wrapper.c:3156):invoke_NP_Initialize: assertion failed: (rpc_method_invoke_possible(g_rpc_connection)) Illegal instruction -- Linux User 183145 using LXDE on a Pentium III , powered by openSUSE 11.2 (i586) Kernel: 2.6.31.12-0.2-desktop LXDE WM & KDE Development Platform: 4.4.3 (KDE 4.4.3) 12:08pm up 2 days 17:24, 2 users, load average: 1.22, 3.77, 4.11 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

12 years

[opensuse] Kindle for PC via WINE ?

by Regis Matejcik

Anyone had any luck getting "Kindle for PC" to run on OpenSuse via WINE ? There are several internet posts that reference a minor "tweak" to wine (essentially changing the winecfg to windows98 ) and "Kindle for PC" supposedly works fine. I've done the the winecfg tweak on both my OpenSuse 11.2 desktop and my Ubuntu laptop with similar results. The "Kindle for PC" program appears to install, an Icon shows up on the desktop, but when the icon is clicked - it tries to launch but crashes. -- Regis Matejcik Crescent Construction Company www.CrescentConstruction.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

12 years

[opensuse] vmware and keyboard layout

by Roger Oberholtzer

i have a strange thing happening these days. when i start vmware, my keyboard layout gets messed up. for example, i am typing this message in evolution. i do not get caps, or various other characters as the shift key seems to have been disabled. this happens when i start vmware. oddly, the apps in vmware windows xp do get proper characters. i see this problem in kde. i cannot check the system console because alt-ctrl-fx also no longer work. stopping vmware does not correct the problem. i need to reboot. ok, i guess there is a command that could probably reset the keyboard. but why is this now happening the last statement was a question, but i can't type a question mark. this happens every time i run vmware. i think it started at some time when kde was updated. i am not certain. except that it was not when vmware was updated. anyone else have this odd behavior i have a swedish keyboard. adding the keyboard layout selector to the kde system tray does not help. some keys change as expected. but the shift key ans alt-ctrl seem gone until i reboot. -- Roger Oberholtzer OPQ Systems / Ramböll RST Ramböll Sverige AB Krukmakargatan 21 P.O. Box 17009 SE-104 62 Stockholm, Sweden Office: Int +46 10-615 60 20 Mobile: Int +46 70-815 1696 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

12 years

[opensuse] java error

by William Biggs

ever time I try to go to any web page with any jave I get this error gcjwebplugin error: Failed to run /etc/alternatives/../../bin/java. For more detail rerun "firefox -g" in a terminal window. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

12 years

[opensuse] openSUSE on SSD?

by C

Has anyone started seriously testing and tinkering with openSUSE on SSD drives? The prices are dropping and I'm thinking it's time to move over to SSD for my main drive - I'm thinking I'll do this around the release of 11.3. I've been doing some reading, and see a lot of conflicting info... in one place I see notes that you must set noatime and you cannot(should not) put the swap on the SSD drive.... among many others... like running a cron job to clear or write memory on a regular basis (something to that effect was discussed here, but without any clear reason why you'd need to so this or what was actually being doen.... at least not that I saw. Most of the rest of the information is at least 2 years old and mostly focuses on panic over the limited read/write cycles on SSDs... one camp says no problems, just install as usual... the other says no way.. disable this and that, and put home on a reg drive, and and and. So.. what's the concensus here? Just install as normal now? Treat the drives as a reg drive? Or handle with care and assume I'm venturing into fail country? C. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

12 years

[opensuse] HP computers?

by Jim Hatridge

Hi all, I'm thinking about buying a HP computer (Pavilion P6310de). It comes with Windows 7 and I want to add SuSE to it. Can anyone tell me good or bad things about HP computers? Do they play nice with Linux? Thanks, JIM -- Check out my eBay auctions! http://tinyurl.com/warthogbulletin -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

12 years

[opensuse] sftp-server problem on OpenSUSE 11?

by Boris Epstein

Hi all, I have a few systems here that are OpenSUSE 11.1 and 11.2 machines. For some reason, while SSH into them works just fine SFTP does not work at all. Looks like the SFTP subsystem in the SSH server (/usr/lib64/ssh/sftp-server) never gets activated properly. Has anybody run into this? How do I fix it? Thanks. Boris. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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openSUSE Users May 2010