October 2010 - openSUSE Users - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[opensuse] [OT] a regular expression book for text worker?
by Zhang Weiwu 06 Oct '10

06 Oct '10

I am trying to help a writer friend (or more preciously text worker, like copy-editing) to manage regular expression in editing work. This post try to get recommendation what book might do the work. I believe most of the knowledge he needs can be explained in a booklet of less than 64 pages with graphical illustration. A search on local book store and online book-store disappointed me a lot. There are only 3 types of regular expression book on the market: 1. The books that consider regular expression a science or an engineering method. Such books would emphasize precision over intuitiveness, prefer abstraction over examples. Typically, they would assume readers know what an Operating System is, what is a "string terminator" and so like. Such book I cannot give to my friends as training material as would triple my training hours compare to if I don't use a book at all. I have to explain a whole lot of concepts before getting him on the track, and he would spend so much energy to learn the concepts (what is an OS? NFA? DEA?) that he may forgot what I try to teach (like how to join lines with RE). 2. The books that consider regular expression a tool for programmers. Such book starts in the first page telling the difference of Perl regular expression, .NET and Java, and use program code to illustrate solutions. They assume you must programmed with a language. 3. VIM books and Emacs books with a focus on regular expression while regular expression is available in almost every editor except Microsoft products. Such books don't fit thanks to their assumption that the users are used to work with VIM/Emacs. The fact is even office workers who uses OpenOffice may well find good uses of regular expression. I think what my "student" need is simple knowledge of: * A short tutorial introducing features one by one, with examples. Better demonstrated with a most simple editor in order to reach most audience. * A reference with short examples. * A case book or scenario book with about 20 scenarios. Typical are: o To join lines that are previously line-wrapped, like that was done by fold(1). o To remove HTML tags. o To get a list of abbreviated terms. o To prettify a price table. o To match delimited text like CSV. o Stripping unwanted white spaces. o Insert formfeed at right places. o match URLs and emails. o ... The perfect book would assume the user only have two things with them: a problem and a text editor. I thankfully appreciate any hint on how to find a good book for the purpose but if your reply is of one of these topics please kindly remain in-top by saying nothing (sorry!): * Question the need of using regular expression when user is actually using "low level" products like OpenOffice. * Emphasize the necessarily of engineering background or engineer's abstracting ability as basis of using regular expression, so that to justify the need of learning abstract concepts (NEA, DFA, concept of "string" ...). * Recommend text workers to learn programming. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] KDE repository problem?
by Anton Aylward 06 Oct '10

06 Oct '10

I had problems with the KDE 4.5.2 download the last few days, my automatic update downloading before kdelibs and others were completed, but I think NOW I have it all. I think. However, as I was downloading I got to the point where my pull-down menus went funny. I thought at first that this was a result of not having the kdelibs right. Now, when I think I have a complete download, I still have that problem. What happens is that the pulldown doesn't display the list, its either blank or in some cases just a mass of confusing pixelation Now to be fair, this might not be KDE at all, it might be X. I see in my logs a few X server modules including ones or video 2010-10-05 16:00:58|install|xorg-x11-driver-video|7.5-101.5|i586||xorg|390edc986ef4ac7b03197dd9d5348bd161497a7b8c90fd439ebfd1777a43100e 2010-10-05 20:01:51|install|xorg-x11-driver-video|7.5-102.1|i586||xorg|813da0caf1bf172411ab85b2589d7112c08f023c3bfbaea2b4a3c84fb6866724 2010-10-06 07:04:43|install|xorg-x11-driver-video|7.5-103.1|i586||xorg|c254fda9d5a73b1b63a8de94976f12340aa933e1d9896b9f0b9a2ba483371ccc What did I do that screwed this up? Oh, and I had a problem with kdm resetting to prevent login. It turned out that the new fonts didn't correspond to the "old" addresses in xorg.conf ... -- A people that values its privileges above its principles soon loses both. Dwight D. Eisenhower, Inaugural Address, January 20, 1953 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Has dual-boot changed?
by John Perry 06 Oct '10

06 Oct '10

So I bought this fancy new motherboard for my wife's machine, She uses Windows xp because she isn't very adept at computers and doesn't want to have to deal with two different systems (the school system uses xp). When I tried to find her copy of xp, I couldn't, so I went ahead and installed 11.3. Later, I found the installation disks and installed xp, expecting to do as I had before, booting into the 11.3 install disks. Tried, failed. I was expecting a vaguely remembered option to "repair installed system", or some such, which isn't on either the net install disk or the complete iso. I'd rather not have to reinstall suse, even if I could be sure that would solve all my problems. So, googling "suse xp dual boot", I find several references to such a feature on ubuntu and some others, but I also hit a scary comment that substituting the xp bootloader is risky, and it's better to modify it to give the option to boot linux (bkpavan.wordpress.com, apcmag.com, www.wellho.net). It's been some months, but I set my laptop up with dual-boot using what really looks like the suse grub bootloader. Has something changed, or am I worrying too much, or...? I found several references to dual-boot on the wiki, but they're all about using or setting up something else after the dual-boot is set up. Where is this "rescue" system referred to in the ubuntu web, and that I clearly remember having before? And is it really so dangerous to simply substitute the xp bootloder with grub? John Perry (from a new account for my wife's computer) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Re: [opensuse-kde] KDE:Release:45 repo broken???
by Roger Oberholtzer 06 Oct '10

06 Oct '10

On Tue, 2010-10-05 at 08:32 +0200, Kyek, Andreas, VF-DE wrote: > This complete KDE repository game is a bit ... lets say confusing. +1 +1 +1 -- Roger Oberholtzer OPQ Systems / Ramböll RST Ramböll Sverige AB Krukmakargatan 21 P.O. Box 17009 SE-104 62 Stockholm, Sweden Office: Int +46 10-615 60 20 Mobile: Int +46 70-815 1696 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Sound doesn't work after user switch
by arygroup＠gmail.com 05 Oct '10

05 Oct '10

OpenSuse 11.3 KDE 4.5.1 HDA Intel VT1708S After I switch to another user (also KDE) both doesn't have sound. My player still doesn't pay attention to it and plays music, but I hear nothing. I have to restart alsasound to make it work again. Any suggestions? Thanks. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Changed provider - Yast DNS problems
by Ilya Chernykh 05 Oct '10

05 Oct '10

Hi! I have today changed Internet provider and found that Internet configuration through Yast does not work as expected on 11.3. Previously I had PPPoE connection, now I have a direct connection to Internet. The servicemen who set up the connection obviously saw Linux for the first time so could not help. It seemed that the IP configuration went well but the DNS servers did not work. Any changes in Yast did not affect the problem. After the servicemen left I succeeded to set up the network by manually deleting file resolv.conf and renaming resolv.conf.netconfig to resolv.conf. The same problem I encountered this summer when my provider moved me from PPTP VPN to PPPoE. It seems Yast is completely useless when configuring DNS. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Device Notifier
by Stan Goodman 05 Oct '10

05 Oct '10

KDE is v4.4.4. When a USB stick or an optical disk is inserted, Devce Notifier pops up to tell me that this has happened, and then pops down again. As far as I can see, nothing else happens: Nowhere am I asked what I want to do with the thing (eg, mount, ignore, or anything else), nor do I see any difference in the Konqueror file browser. indicating the presence of a new device. I assume that I just don't know where to look, although I spent a bit of time yesterday searching. What am I supposed to do next, knowing that the device I had just inserted, is in fact inserted? -- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Why does man gpg talk about gpg2, not gpg?
by Greg Freemyer 05 Oct '10

05 Oct '10

opensuse 11.3 I do man gpg2 and it advises I use gpg for embedded applications which is what I want. So I do man gpg and I get the same man page. :( (actually I want to have gpg in a command-line pipe, not embedded but either way it would be nice to read the gpg man page) Greg -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] kde 4.5 - 11.3 release repo inconsistent?
by Greg Freemyer 05 Oct '10

05 Oct '10

> > Looks like dbus-1.4 is now in the kde4.5 release repo, so I'm going > give it a shot. > > https://build.opensuse.org/package/files?package=dbus-1&project=KDE%3ARelea… > > Thanks Will, > Greg Will ( or others), My effort to upgrade to KDE 4.5 failed because lots of packages in the repo depend on kdebase4-runtime >= 4.5.2 But only .4.5.1 is available in the release repo: ============== > zypper se -s kdebase4-runtime Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... S | Name | Type | Version | Arch | Repository --+------------------------------------+------------+-------------+--------+------------------------ v | kdebase4-runtime | package | 4.5.1-5.3 | x86_64 | KDE:Release:45 i | kdebase4-runtime | package | 4.4.4-3.1.2 | x86_64 | openSUSE-11.3 Updates v | kdebase4-runtime | package | 4.4.4-2.4 | x86_64 | openSUSE-11.3 OSS v | kdebase4-runtime | package | 4.5.1-5.3 | i586 | KDE:Release:45 v | kdebase4-runtime | package | 4.4.4-3.1.2 | i586 | openSUSE-11.3 Updates v | kdebase4-runtime | package | 4.4.4-2.4 | i586 | openSUSE-11.3 OSS <snip unrelated packages (and why do have i586 repos anyway?) > ====================== It seems really strange that you would have 4.5.1 in the repos, but the following require 4.5.2: Problem: nothing provides kdebase4-runtime >= 4.5.2 needed by kdepim4-runtime-4.4.6-5.1.x86_64 Problem: nothing provides kdebase4-runtime >= 4.5.2 needed by kdebase4-workspace-4.5.2-5.1.x86_64 Problem: nothing provides kdebase4-runtime >= 4.5.2 needed by cervisia-4.5.2-3.1.i586 Problem: nothing provides kdebase4-runtime >= 4.5.2 needed by choqok-0.9.90+svn1177624-32.1.i586 Problem: nothing provides kdebase4-runtime >= 4.5.2 needed by gwenview-4.5.2-4.1.i586 Problem: nothing provides kdebase4-runtime >= 4.5.2 needed by kate-4.5.2-3.1.i586 Problem: nothing provides kdebase4-runtime >= 4.5.2 needed by kcachegrind-4.5.2-3.1.i586 Problem: nothing provides kdebase4-runtime >= 4.5.2 needed by kcolorchooser-4.5.2-4.1.i586 Problem: nothing provides kdebase4-runtime >= 4.5.2 needed by kcron-4.5.2-5.1.i586 Problem: nothing provides kdebase4-runtime >= 4.5.2 needed by kde4-kapptemplate-4.5.2-3.1.i586 Problem: nothing provides kdebase4-runtime >= 4.5.2 needed by kde4-kgreeter-plugins-4.5.2-5.1.i586 Problem: nothing provides kdebase4-runtime >= 4.5.2 needed by kde4-l10n-devel-4.5.2-3.1.i586 Problem: nothing provides kdebase4-runtime >= 4.5.2 needed by kdebase4-workspace-4.5.2-5.1.x86_64 Problem: nothing provides kdebase4-runtime >= 4.5.2 needed by kdegraphics4-4.5.2-4.1.i586 Problem: nothing provides kdebase4-runtime >= 4.5.2 needed by kdesdk4-4.5.2-3.1.i586 Problem: nothing provides kdebase4-runtime >= 4.5.2 needed by kdevplatform-1.0.1-3.1.i586 Problem: nothing provides kdebase4-runtime >= 4.5.2 needed by kdm-4.5.2-5.1.i586 Problem: nothing provides kdebase4-runtime >= 4.5.2 needed by kgamma-4.5.2-4.1.i586 Problem: nothing provides kdebase4-runtime >= 4.5.2 needed by kwebkitpart-0.9-3.1.x86_64 Problem: nothing provides kdebase4-runtime >= 4.5.2 needed by kio_kamera-4.5.2-4.1.i586 Problem: nothing provides kdebase4-runtime >= 4.5.2 needed by kio_svn-4.5.2-3.1.i586 Problem: nothing provides kdebase4-runtime >= 4.5.2 needed by kio_sysinfo-11.3-5.1.i586 Problem: nothing provides kdebase4-runtime >= 4.5.2 needed by kmag-4.5.2-5.1.i586 Problem: nothing provides kdebase4-runtime >= 4.5.2 needed by kmousetool-4.5.2-5.1.i586 Problem: nothing provides kdebase4-runtime >= 4.5.2 needed by kompare-4.5.2-3.1.i586 Problem: nothing provides kdebase4-runtime >= 4.5.2 needed by konqueror-plugins-4.3.1-3.1.i586 Problem: nothing provides kdebase4-runtime >= 4.5.2 needed by konversation-1.3.1-3.1.i586 Problem: nothing provides kdebase4-runtime >= 4.5.2 needed by kruler-4.5.2-4.1.i586 Problem: nothing provides kdebase4-runtime >= 4.5.2 needed by ksnapshot-4.5.2-4.1.i586 Problem: nothing provides kdebase4-runtime >= 4.5.2 needed by ksshaskpass-0.5.3-3.1.i586 Problem: nothing provides kdebase4-runtime >= 4.5.2 needed by ksystemlog-4.5.2-5.1.i586 Problem: nothing provides kdebase4-runtime >= 4.5.2 needed by kvkbd-0.6-3.1.i586 Problem: nothing provides kdebase4-runtime >= 4.5.2 needed by kwin-4.5.2-5.1.i586 Problem: nothing provides kdebase4-runtime >= 4.5.2 needed by kdevplatform-1.0.1-3.1.x86_64 Problem: nothing provides kdebase4-runtime >= 4.5.2 needed by lokalize-4.5.2-3.1.i586 Problem: nothing provides kdebase4-runtime >= 4.5.2 needed by okular-4.5.2-4.1.i586 Problem: nothing provides kdebase4-runtime >= 4.5.2 needed by umbrello-4.5.2-3.1.i586 Problem: nothing provides kdebase4-runtime >= 4.5.2 needed by kdebase4-workspace-4.5.2-5.1.x86_64 Problem: nothing provides kdebase4-runtime >= 4.5.2 needed by kdegraphics4-4.5.2-4.1.x86_64 Problem: nothing provides kdebase4-runtime >= 4.5.2 needed by kdegraphics4-4.5.2-4.1.x86_64 ========== Thanks Greg -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Automatic updates
by Stan Goodman 05 Oct '10

05 Oct '10

For the first few days after I installed v11.3, there were momentary popup notifications that new updates were ready. Unlike the drill under kde3, I was not asked to confirm. I have no way to know whether the updates were executed or not, but I doubt it. I am sure (or rather, I hope) that the system s not intentionally keeping me n the dark, so presumably something is wrong. Does this sound like I omitted something I was supposed to do? Is it a recognizablefault somewhere? -- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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