March 2008 - openSUSE Users - openSUSE Mailing Lists

Re: [opensuse] Dead motherboard? Disk ok?
by Carlos E. R. 01 Apr '08

01 Apr '08

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 El 2008-03-31 a las 18:12 -0400, j.e.perry(a)cox.net escribió: You will get more help if you post to the list instead of answering in private. >> The Saturday 2008-03-29 at 22:17 -0400, j.e.perry(a)cox.net wrote: >> >>> I have a desktop with an Asus K8V-X SE motherboard. It recently stopped >>> booting, saying the hard drive failed smart tests. >>> >>> But when I try to go into the rescue system to save my data, the >>> installer goes through the warning to save my data and replace the >>> drive, >> >> The installer tells you what?? I don't understand how it can tell you >> that. > > Am I being too sloppy with my terms? Kind of :-) First, you must not assume that everybody here has English as the first language. Second, you know your problem and what you saw, but we do not. If something is missing in your explanations, your mind can fill the gaps, but ours can't, because we don't know what you saw or thought: we are not there. We can guess but not know. So yes, at least I needed a better explanation. Others might not, and others might simply skip your message. Your current email is much better, thanks. :-) > The system was running fine for several years under 9.3, 10.0, 10.1, > 10.2, and 10.3 x86-64. > > A couple of months ago, it stopped running. When I tried to reboot the > running system, I got the smart message, with a warning to save > everything on my hard disk and replace it immediately. Then it hung. > > Thinking the hard drive was so bad it couldn't even boot the system, I > pulled out my bootable 10.3 install dvd and tried to boot from it. > > It started loading the installer kernel (I assume), gave the smart > warning, and tried to continue. Part of booting is a message that says > if it has a problem with some module, try booting again with > "brokenmodules=...". > > It loaded a bunch of modules, then printed "loading via82cxxx" on the > screen and hung for several minutes. I repeated this a couple of times. Do you remember if you had to do all that when you installed the system? > I restarted the machine, gave it the brokenmodules command, and where it > had hung, it loaded two more modules that it hadn't before, and finally > hung on "loading pata". I repeated this a couple of times. > > Then I went to work, started up webmail, and started this series of > messages. > >> >>> then hangs when it tries to load via82cxxx, even when I give the >>> kernel parameter "brokenmodules=via82cxxx", as the installer advises >>> during boot. >> >> Are you trying to install or boot a rescue system? >> > > Answered above, right? Now, yes. Somehow I think that the warning about smart during boot doesn't come from Linux or the rescue/install DVD: it comes directly from your bios. I'm not absolutely sure, but it is my educated guess. If you can copy the exact error message it gives then I could search the boot scripts to find it, but I don't think it is there. As somebody else said, you could check the bios setup, and disable smart checking: then the boot process would not be halted. >> The procedure would depend on the exact type of problem smart have >> detected; but typically it would be to boot any rescue CD in text mode, >> and use dd_rescue to copy all that HD into images on another HD. Once the >> images were copied and safe, it would be the time to run tests on the >> possibly broken HD, not before. > > As I said, I never got a successful boot. Everything I'm giving you is > from the startup screen. > >>> So, is it safe to say my motherboard is broken, and the hard drive >>> probably ok? Or are the problems independent, implying that both broke >>> at about the same time? >> >> Probably independent, unless the IDE chipset is involved. Perhaps the DVD >> is bad. > > Is this still your opinion? Could be. Everything is very strange. You could try removing the HD and see if the rescue disk boots. Perhaps better if you try another DVD, as the 10.3 one you have is suspect. >> There was a problem with the 10.3 DVD rescue system, some bad bug. I don't >> know which bug exactly. >> > > OK. I guess this could be the source of my inability to boot a rescue > system. Yes, could be, but as I say, I don't know what the exact problem was. Most likely it was the automated rescue program which was broken. > But it seems very unlikely to me that two hardware devices on > different ATA buses would die simultaneously. Two buses, yes, but it could be the same chip, or something in common to both on the motherboard. > And there is clearly no > way bad dvd software on the shelf could break a hard drive in the > system. That's why I'm thinking in terms of a higher level fault on the > motherboard. It is possible. As to the HD, the maker probably has a program to test the device, which you can download from their web page. Seagate has a good one: time ago it was a downloadable floppy, now I think it is a small CD. If you can download it, try: it is a bootable mini dos or linux system dedicated to test the HD. Each maker should have their own program to test their disks. - -- Saludos Carlos E.R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFH8XPdtTMYHG2NR9URAm5GAJ93W1wInXO2rDZtAODoKVCgI245XQCfb0/l JVZMDgTLVQAYGa0ZYzejygg= =Vu8G -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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[opensuse] Re: Is the Suse Linux 10.0 repository gone?
by Joachim Schrod 01 Apr '08

01 Apr '08

Brian K. White wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike McMullin" <mwmcmlln(a)mnsi.net> > To: <opensuse(a)opensuse.org> > Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 12:18 AM > Subject: Re: [opensuse] Is the Suse Linux 10.0 repository gone? > > >> On Fri, 2008-03-28 at 07:18 -0700, Kai Ponte wrote: >>> On Friday 28 March 2008 07:13:19 am Johannes Meixner wrote: >>> > Hello, >>> > >>> > a user told me that >>> > http://en.opensuse.org/Package_Repositories >>> > lists repositories for version 10.0 but access results >>> > usually "Error 404". >>> >>> Interesting. Looks like 10.0 and 10.1 are gone from the mirrors I >>> checked. >> >> I still have systems on those two releases. :( > > Me too. Large production ones where the users are all interactive login > users, not web services, so they will not be upgraded or migrated > without dire need. > Luckily I have the retail dvd and luckily I made copies and images, so > when I need to install some app I didn't install originally, I can, but > what about all the updates after the dvd was cut? What's your problem? Both the distribution and the available updates are still there, below ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/ and all its mirrors, e.g., on ftp.gwdg.de. And somebody also repaired the link at the Wiki page above. Joachim -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Joachim Schrod Email: jschrod(a)acm.org Roedermark, Germany -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Is the Suse Linux 10.0 repository gone?
by Johannes Meixner 01 Apr '08

01 Apr '08

Hello, a user told me that http://en.opensuse.org/Package_Repositories lists repositories for version 10.0 but access results usually "Error 404". In particular access fails via http://download.opensuse.org/ while there seems to be something accessible via http://ftp5.gwdg.de/ Is Suse Linux 10.0 no longer available? If yes, there was probably a big announcement but at least I missed it and additionally it seems I am blind because I don't find it on openSUSE.org. Kind Regards Johannes Meixner -- SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstrasse 5, 90409 Nuernberg, Germany AG Nuernberg, HRB 16746, GF: Markus Rex -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Kmail & Spamassassin
by Kaare Rasmussen 01 Apr '08

01 Apr '08

I've recently installed the Spamassassin filter for Kmail. It sure removes some spam, but not nearly enough. Typycally it will remove approximately 75 out of 175 spam messages, leaving 100 left for me to sift through. I've let it learn what is spam for a week or so now, with absolutely no impact on the ratio. Obviously, I wonder if I register spam in vain, did I forget something, do I have to few messages (don't know how to see the numbers, but I guess I have 1-2.000 spam messages registered), or is it not that efficient to have identified spam as I thought? -- Med venlig hilsen Kaare Rasmussen, Jasonic Jasonic Telefon: +45 3816 2582 Nordre Fasanvej 12 2000 Frederiksberg Email: kaare(a)jasonic.dk -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] envvar DISPLAY not set on bash invocation fr/sshd
by Linda Walsh 01 Apr '08

01 Apr '08

I noticed, recently, that when I log into a 10.3 based system, my DISPLAY variable isn't being set to "[localhost:10.0]" (or anything). I've upgraded more packages since I last knew it was working, but don't remoteX from this machine regularly, so I don't know exactly when it broke. I thought I'd not configured something 'obvious' but I compared it with another machine running 10.3 which is working and I can't figure out what the difference is between the two. I've tried two separate environments logging into both machines (SecureCRT && Cygwin). Behavior is the same (fails on newer upgraded machine, but not the older one). REMOTEHOST is being set on both machines, as expected. I've been trying to figure out 'when' during the ssh-login process it might be failing. known failure is when bash's /etc/profile is called -- top of the file I temporarily tossed in an edit on both machines and DISPLAY wasn't making it to at that point. The /etc/sshd_config files on both machines are identical except for names of local network interfaces to listen on. The user's .ssh/ssh_config files is the same on both. The '/etc/security/pam_env.conf files are the same. pam_env is configured for use on both machines /etc/pam.d/common-auth, seemingly correctly. I'm guessing there must be some other place along the login chain that somehow is different -- isn't it ->(sshd)->pam->login->bash? Anyone know of other places that might try to block 'ssh' envvars being passed in? Thanks much.. -Linda -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Is it possible to remove a disappeared Panel, and install a new one?
by Stan Goodman 01 Apr '08

01 Apr '08

It is really difficult to operate without the Panel that has vanished, because it contains the virtual desktops. If I could destroy the thing and make a new one, and could emplace the applets on it as they were, life would be much easier. Can that be done? -- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Movie conversion
by Chris Arnold 31 Mar '08

31 Mar '08

I use 10.3 and kde. I want to take a purchased movie (DVD) and convert it into ipod format. On the other OS, i used an app called dvd2svcd to convert it to svcd then use an app to convert the svcd to ipod format. Is there a way to do this using 10.3? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] /dev/dvd Cant Read Superblock
by Carl Spitzer 31 Mar '08

31 Mar '08

I burned a DVD using a LiteOn DVDRW on one machine but can not mount or read it on another which had a LiteOn DVD-ROM. I just did a CD-R on the DVDRW and it worked in the DVD-ROM. I checked the permissions and both are auto not subfs. -- _______ _______ _______ __ / ____\ \ / / ____|_ _\ \ / / | | \ \ /\ / / (___ | | \ \ / / | | \ \/ \/ / \___ \ | | \ \/ / | |____ \ /\ / ____) |_| |_ \ / \_____| \/ \/ |_____/|_____| \/ | \ /|\ || |\ / |~~\ /~~\ /~~| //~~\ | \ / | \ || | X |__/| || |( `--. |__ | | \| \_/ / \ | \ \__/ \__| \\__/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] request for resources : architecture, security, system call, memory/IO control etc.
by Sam Tozsamy 31 Mar '08

31 Mar '08

Hello, I've been asked to prepare a 30-40 min lecture/presentation abuout openSuSE as operating system, the lecture should focus on : - some interesting facts.. - how openSUSE (linux in general) deals with operating system functions (like IO devices, memory control) - how openSUSE (linux in general) deals with system calls, processes etc. examples! - how is openSUSE different from other linux distributions (eg. yast) , others? - why those diferences make us use openSUSE but not other linux distro - othet things which are interesting as from the view of operating system. - architecture concepts, overview.. - security it's quite important for me and i'd be greatful if You could help me, maybe by writing something, mayby by giving some hyperlinks to interesting resorces (including graphics).. I know, I know.. google you say. but i hope maybe you have in Your bookmarks something that would be very very difficult for me to find. thank You very much in advance:) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] OOo: save-as for cifs hosted documents really bad.
by Greg Freemyer 31 Mar '08

31 Mar '08

All, I installed OOo 2.4 from UNSTABLE and it seems even more prone to the Save-As lockup I've reported before. (In bugzilla, etc.) Since upgrading, I have not been able to open a document existing on a cifs mounted drive and perform "save as". I've tried only 3 or 4 docs, but I even had the problem after rebooting. With OOo 2.3 it was hit or miss and a reboot always got me back stable for at least a short while. Anyone else having this issue? my steps: Alt-F2: oowriter Click File Open and open a file that is on a cifs mounted filesystem Click Save-As <lock up of KDE mouse clicks etc. ensues> Use Alt-Tab or Control-Alt-F2 (etc.) to get to either konsole or console. Kill OOo. Repeat as desired. Greg -- Greg Freemyer Litigation Triage Solutions Specialist http://www.linkedin.com/in/gregfreemyer First 99 Days Litigation White Paper - http://www.norcrossgroup.com/forms/whitepapers/99%20Days%20whitepaper.pdf The Norcross Group The Intersection of Evidence & Technology http://www.norcrossgroup.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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