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How high is your required_score in spamassassin? Mine is set at 3.5, and it gets most everything.

Yeah, OK. Maybe lowering the limit is the way to go. Thanks. -- Med venlig hilsen Kaare Rasmussen, Jasonic Jasonic Telefon: +45 3816 2582 Nordre Fasanvej 12 2000 Frederiksberg Email: kaare@jasonic.dk -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 10:03 AM, Joe Sloan wrote:

Kaare Rasmussen wrote:

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I've recently installed the Spamassassin filter for Kmail. It sure removes some spam, but not nearly enough. Typycally it will remove approximately 75 out of 175 spam messages, leaving 100 left for me to sift through.

I've let it learn what is spam for a week or so now, with absolutely no impact on the ratio. Obviously, I wonder if I register spam in vain, did I forget something, do I have to few messages (don't know how to see the numbers, but I guess I have 1-2.000 spam messages registered), or is it not that efficient to have identified spam as I thought?

spamassassin can do a good job as part of a multi layered spam defense.

Spamassassin can do an EXCELLENT job as the ONLY layer in a spam defense EVEN on a pop-3 client such as Kmail. Sanity check and grey listing at an smtp gateway (beyond the control of the pop-3 user) are largely redundant, as virtually none of this traffic passes a well tuned Spamassassin setup. -- ----------JSA--------- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 10:28 AM, Joe Sloan wrote:

John Andersen wrote:

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On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 10:03 AM, Joe Sloan wrote:

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spamassassin can do a good job as part of a multi layered spam defense.

Spamassassin can do an EXCELLENT job as the ONLY layer in a spam defense EVEN on a pop-3 client such as Kmail.

It can, if the users mail account is not being targeted. But that assumption does not hold true everywhere.

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Sanity check and grey listing at an smtp gateway (beyond the control of the pop-3 user) are largely redundant, as virtually none of this traffic passes a well tuned Spamassassin setup.

I'm responsible for a mail system which attempts to protect 15,000 users from spam, and you'd be surprised how devious the spammers have gotten lately. They're not all stupid, and they do have resources behind them.

pm me if you want to hear some horror stories.

Interesting, but not the topic at hand. Your original message more or less poo-pooed spamassassin as a end user defense, instead suggesting all sorts of options that are totally unavailable to a end (pop-3) user. A well set up and trained SA is the single most effective anti-spam tool available to a pop-3 user. Especially with network tests turned on and weighted appropriately. -- ----------JSA--------- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Monday 31 March 2008 01:20:23 pm John Andersen wrote:

On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 10:03 AM, Joe Sloan wrote:

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Kaare Rasmussen wrote:

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I've recently installed the Spamassassin filter for Kmail. It sure removes some spam, but not nearly enough. Typycally it will remove approximately 75 out of 175 spam messages, leaving 100 left for me to sift through.

I've let it learn what is spam for a week or so now, with absolutely no impact on the ratio. Obviously, I wonder if I register spam in vain, did I forget something, do I have to few messages (don't know how to see the numbers, but I guess I have 1-2.000 spam messages registered), or is it not that efficient to have identified spam as I thought?

spamassassin can do a good job as part of a multi layered spam defense.

Spamassassin can do an EXCELLENT job as the ONLY layer in a spam defense EVEN on a pop-3 client such as Kmail.

Sanity check and grey listing at an smtp gateway (beyond the control of the pop-3 user) are largely redundant, as virtually none of this traffic passes a well tuned Spamassassin setup.

Also. when you run across an occasional spam, doesn't "clicking" on the little round icon with the curved arrow that is in the Kmail toolbar also train spamassassin by inputting into the bayes filter? If so, it should not require anymore bayesian training. Corrrect? or not? Bob S -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org