openSUSE Users November 2006

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Re: [opensuse] Why have I been thinking about Fedora??
by Dominique Leuenberger 29 Nov '06

29 Nov '06

>>> Reply on 29-11-2006 14:48:51 <<< > Dominique Leuenberger wrote: > > > >>>> Reply on 29-11-2006 11:17:38 <<< > >>>> > > > > > >>>> to make Vista a good Guess for Xen > >>>> > >>> ..........Guest > >>> > >> I once read it's already been done [for some Windows before Vista] > >> > > but > > > >> could not be published because of the assed MS EULA. So, Vista for > >> > > Xen > > > >> will most likely not happen ANYTIME soon. > >> > >> > >> > > > > Why should the MS EULA deny you the installation as a XEN Guest? As > > long as you don't have to modify the kernel (so in paravirt mode), > you > > are allowed to install Windows on virtual machines. You just need one > > license per virtual machine you install; you're not used to reuse a > > license in several virt/phys machines. > > > > Dominique > > > > There have been articles recently about just that. Only some (read > expensive) versions of Vista are permitted to be run as a virtual > system. > I know what you point on, but that's basically WRONG: The MS EULA reads: 4. USE WITH VIRTUALIZATION TECHNOLOGIES. You may not use the software installed on the licensed device within a virtual (or otherwise emulated) hardware system. -> you are NOT allowed to use the same license, that you have on the physical installation, inisde a virtual installation. But according to this sentence, you're allowed to install it in a virtaul machine. Dominique -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse] 3 problems with 10.2rc1
by Simon Roberts 29 Nov '06

29 Nov '06

One down... ----- Original Message ---- ...I have three problems with a new installation of 10.2rc1. 2) My wireless card (Intel 3945ABG) worked out of the box in 10.1, but now I find that while Yast seems to know about it, it doesn't show up in either the Network Monitor applet, nor if I do "ifconfig -a" I did make the mistake that my initial install didn't include the "add on" disk which has the FCC compliance part of this device, but I've since added that in, and still nothing. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Well, This now works. I'm not sure what the critical thing was, but instead of expecting network manager to identify the keys to this, I modified the setup by giving yast the keys to my main network. I also realized that I hadn't rebooted after installing the extras disk. But now that both of those are done, my wireless is working. So, now I'm just down to the video question (and the install peculiarity, though that's for someone else's benefit not mine, as I'm obviously running now). Cheers, Simon ____________________________________________________________________________________ Cheap talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. http://voice.yahoo.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] 3 problems with 10.2rc1
by Simon Roberts 29 Nov '06

29 Nov '06

I hope this is an appropriate place for this, but if not, please redirect me as appropriate. I have three problems with a new installation of 10.2rc1. Two problems I think are just configuration issues, one is kindof a bug--I suspect--in the install system. They are: 1) My video card is not being recognized by the install. I get a generic VESA monitor, which the gnome applet says is running at 1024x768 with thousands of colors. Oddly, SaX says its generic at 800x600. I believe it's actually doing 1024x768 because I used GIMP to show an 800x600 document at full size and it didn't fill the screen :) The device is actually an Intel 945 GM which previously (under 10.1) worked in a higher, widescreen, resolution (about 1600x800 I think it was). Admittedly, the driver that achieved that crashed on mode change (including on logout!) so one could argue I'm better off, but I need to drive my external monitor too, so I have to resolve this really. 2) My wireless card (Intel 3945ABG) worked out of the box in 10.1, but now I find that while Yast seems to know about it, it doesn't show up in either the Network Monitor applet, nor if I do "ifconfig -a" I did make the mistake that my initial install didn't include the "add on" disk which has the FCC compliance part of this device, but I've since added that in, and still nothing. 3) This is the suspected install bug. Unfortunately I don't have all the information, but if someone wants to take it seriously and tell me exactly what to collect, I'll run the whole thing again and provide more details. My install gets to the screen that offers the chance to check the media. Of about 6 install attempts, I found that once after checking the media, it proceeded normally, every other time, whether I checked media or not, it appears to hang. It actually stopped for about five minutes (no clock used!) and then picked up as if nothing had happened. I did the install one time with "safe mode" and that didn't exhibit this problem, but the resulting install crashed on startup so was useless. I noticed in vt4 (I think) that there were reports complaining about ata2 (I think) having bad something. I should note that SuSE 9.3, 10.1, and some others all ran past this install without complaining about my 6 week old hard drive :) So, I really don't believe it's anything to do with that. I've also noticed, but not documented, some strange "sloweness" here and there with 10.1 that felt to me like there was something funny in the interrupt handling in this dual core machine. Just gut, so probably wrong, but I mention it, as this feels like it could be related. Unrelated, but also seemingly an install bug perhaps, vt1 shows an error report which I think is coming from a perl script. Something about blah, blah = blah, blah should be (blah, blah) = (blah, blah) or simiar. I'm not a perl programmer so I didn't really pay close attention, but the error runs over more than a whole page. Seems like it's help text more than error report! Any suggestions gang? I'd really like to get this to work (and going back to 10.1 isn't much of an option, as that was very unstable w.r.t. the video modes, and also VMWare--I'm hoping this might be better :) Cheers, Simon "You can tell whether a man is clever by his answers. You can tell whether a man is wise by his questions." — Naguib Mahfouz ____________________________________________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse] SuSE 10.1/1680x1050 Widescreen/nVidia <- does not work
by Matthias Hopf 29 Nov '06

29 Nov '06

On Nov 29, 06 09:41:56 +0100, Marcus Schäfer wrote: > > My video card GeForce 5500 with 128 MB is capable of 1680x1050, but one of my > > fiends who is very fluent in electronics and PC hardware told me that this > > card is quite old, and therefore, it is capable of HD 16:10 resolution ONLY > > in VGA mode, and NOT DVI. Additionally, he said, it may suffer from glitches > > artifacts anyway. > > Your friend is right if you are using the opensource nvidia driver (nv) > In case of DVI the nv driver needs the bios to check the mode. The bios Yes, but this is not due to the card being old. It's due to being cheap, and having only a single link DVI interface. It's true, that for the nv driver the BIOS has an important role as well. I was missing the fact that Andrei used the NV driver, as he talked about 'modprobe nvidia' :-] > > Moreover, I have decided to give another try, and installed SuSE 10.2RC1 on > > another hard drive. There were NO WAY I could make it work in 1680x1050, no > > matter of VGA or DVI mode, even with 100% config supplied by Basil. > > Hmm, this sounds strange to me Probably due to using the nv driver, again. Matthias -- Matthias Hopf <mhopf(a)suse.de>, SuSE labs, Zimmer 3.2.06, Tel. 74053-715 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse] KDE update on Sunday
by Dominique Leuenberger 29 Nov '06

29 Nov '06

>>> Reply on 29-11-2006 16:00:43 <<< > > > My file was (and still is): > > > > > > -rw------- 1 roger users 724 2006-11-29 11:31 > > > .ICEauthority > > > > > > As the file is newer than the update, I expect that X has been > > > using this all along without trouble. > > > > This disappoints me a little, but ok ... then back to zero > > > > Have you tryed to add a new(testing) user, to see if kde runs with a > > clean home directory ? > > Not a new user. But I did try with a new .kde directory. I moved the > existing one out of the way. I took longer to fail, so I guess it was > populating the new .kde directory it made. So perhaps this is an > indicator of it getting at least that far. I also deleted EVERYTHING > in /tmp. No difference. > Hi, some googling brought me to the point, that it seems to be a problem between the gnome desktop and some KDE-Apps, that get started as superuser (like konqueror for example). Maybe you get some information in this thread: http://opensuse.us/viewtopic.php?p=6702&sid=7043e3711af62682fedd729448e9c539 Dominique -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse] Why have I been thinking about Fedora??
by Dominique Leuenberger 29 Nov '06

29 Nov '06

>>> Reply on 29-11-2006 11:17:38 <<< > > >> to make Vista a good Guess for Xen > > ..........Guest > > I once read it's already been done [for some Windows before Vista] but > could not be published because of the assed MS EULA. So, Vista for Xen > will most likely not happen ANYTIME soon. > > Why should the MS EULA deny you the installation as a XEN Guest? As long as you don't have to modify the kernel (so in paravirt mode), you are allowed to install Windows on virtual machines. You just need one license per virtual machine you install; you're not used to reuse a license in several virt/phys machines. Dominique -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Dddddooppplicating keys
by John Andersen 29 Nov '06

29 Nov '06

On my core 2 duo machine running SUSE 10.1 I get a lot of key duplication while typing. Using KDE 3.5.1 and still happening with 3.5.5 from opensuse. Its gotten so bad I had to turn off autorepeat in the KDE configuration (personal settings). With that turned off, there is no duplications, even when you hold down a key. With it on, even with very conservative settings of delay and repeat you will find words with strings of the same character every sentence. Exit Kde, Open Fvwm (or any of the alternative light weight window managers (ye gads those start up fast!!!) and there is NO duplication in any of their limited set of tools UNTIL you open a kde app then even things as simple as kedit or kwrite duplicate characters. I can have Kword and OOO.Writer opened up at the same time, and kword will get duplicate characters. But clicking into OOWriter gives no duplicates. No duplicates in Ctrl-Alt-F1-thru-6 consoles or when init 3. So its not a keyboard problem. The settings in xorg.conf (keyboard section) Option "Autorepeat" "500 20" seems to have no effect on kde. I'd be happy if I could get KDE to leave it alone and accept the x servers settings. Any one else seeing this? -- _____________________________________ John Andersen

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Re: [opensuse] openexchange
by Silviu Marin-Caea 29 Nov '06

29 Nov '06

On Wednesday 29 November 2006 12:00, you wrote: > >>> Reply on 29-11-2006 11:58:33 <<< > > > > On Wednesday 29 November 2006 10:45, Dominique Leuenberger wrote: > > > Yes, that's a sad story. SLOX (SuSE Linux OpenXchange) was very > > > promising. > > > > But this hasn't gone anywhere, didn't drop from the face of the > > Earth > > > either. > > It's being actively developed further. It's quite good, too. > > > > http://www.open-xchange.com > > Silviu, > > yes, that's right... it still exists and I was following it since > Novell gave it back to NetLine (who already coded SLOX to be fair). Novell didn't give it back to NetLine, it was always NetLine's. SLOX was a collaboration between NetLine and SUSE. The Groupware part was NetLine's and the OS part was SUSE's. And they were nicely integrated. > But > it seemed like the development did not go really forward But it very much did. They have released a major new version: Openexchange 5. > and especially > the installation procedure is far behind of what slox offered (ok: it > was an integrated OS-Solution, but very well done). The installation procedure is very much tolerable. It's a script that installs some rpms. Pretty straight forward. One note: I have installed the commercially supported version. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse] openexchange
by Dominique Leuenberger 29 Nov '06

29 Nov '06

>>> Reply on 29-11-2006 11:12:55 <<< > Dominique Leuenberger wrote: > > Yes, that's a sad story. SLOX (SuSE Linux OpenXchange) was very > > promising. When SuSE got bought by Novell, there were far to many > > Messaging services around (netmail, groupwise, slox), so slox had to > go > > away. > > > > Hula is, let's say, I child under the projects and when I looked at > it, > > was not very evolved. I don't know how much changed in this time. But > > when comparing Hula and OpenXchange with Zimbra [1] for example, you > > probably see why they disappear and don't get that much attention > > anymore. > > > > Regards, > > Dominique > > > > [1]http://www.zimbra.com/ (online demo also available) > > Not really. Being someone who has to use Zimbra (just for IMAP at the > moment) I can say that you don't want to use Zimbra as IMAP service. > I haven't analyzed it yet but it seems that it only allows one open > IMAP > session per user. That means that folder switching takes ages. > It doesn't support ACLs for IMAP and it doesn't support IMAP IDLE as it > seems. > Wolfgang, Thanks for this information :-) At the moment, I was just looking around and zimbra looked very promising. At this time, I'm just using horde/imp, which is nice.. but lacks some features and usability. Is your Zimbra configured to use a 3rd party IMAP or is it using the one shipped with Zimbra? So.. if you were me, that would have to decide what System to choose, (for private purpose, so it has to be free) for let's say, 10 accounts (unlimited size)... what would you suggest? Dominique -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] nice and sluggishness
by Hans du Plooy 29 Nov '06

29 Nov '06

Hi guys, Just wondering. If I set a single process to have a nice value of -1, and the process does not use 100% CPU, why does it make the whole machine sluggish? I'm busy transferring video from VCR to my notebook. Mencoder is using between 60 and 80% CPU at any time, so performance is not an issue. But to avoid framedropping when I open or close something while working in the meantime, or to avoid disaster when updatedb kicks in, I set mencoder to be nice -1. Even though mencoder still only uses 60-80% CPU, everthing else is now sluggish - even the mouse movements are slow and jerky. Thanks Hans -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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