May 2003 - openSUSE Users - openSUSE Mailing Lists

Routing - 7.3 versus 8.x
by Bill.Light＠kp.org 09 May '03

09 May '03

I have just done a fresh install of SuSE 8.2 to replace my 3 -NIC firewall box. Stuff I expected in /etc has been moved but found. Shorewall installation through YAST removes Kernel Sources, but I can NOT figure out the #$%^&&% ! Routing changes. I have/had a working /etc/route.conf & /etc/rc.config I now kind of find what I need in /etc/sysconfig/network/ifcfg-n & /etc/sysconfig/network/routing How do I fill in the correct "blanks" YAST certainly doesn't seem to help for multiple NIC's with different routing - the very purpose that I have the multiple NIC's! Can someone steer me in the right direction ? Required - eth0 to a single 192.x.x.x NIC (Primary Firewall) eth1 to my network 192.x.x.x (Samba PDC, Windoze boxes, CUPS printers) eth2 to another private single 10.x.x.x - Bill

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pop3 doesn't work in 8.2
by Marshall Heartley 09 May '03

09 May '03

I have a small forewarding email server on my network and it worked well. I upgraded to 8.2 and now the pop3 server does not work. I made sure that it was turned on in the inetd.conf file. I even tried to use xined and got the same result. Here is the error message that Evolution gives me. Unable to connect to POP server 192.168.1.200 Error sending password -ERR Unknown AUTHORIZATION state command. Anyone have an idea to get this working??? I would like to continue to use imapd but it looks like the IMAP issues have hit the POP3 side too! :( -- Marshall "Nothing is impossible, we just do not have all the anwsers to make the impossible, possible."

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Any got web2ldap working?
by Carlos E. R. 08 May '03

08 May '03

I'm trying web2ldap. I have installed web2ldap-cgi and web2ldap rpm from suse 8.1. I have enabled mod_fastcgi.c in /etc/sysconfig/apache (HTTPD_SEC_MOD_FASTCGI=yes). Then I add this to the configuration of apache, per the web2ldap instructions in /usr/lib/web2ldap/htdocs/install.html: <IfModule mod_fastcgi.c> ScriptAlias /web2ldap-fcgi/ "/usr/lib/web2ldap/fcgi/" FastCgiServer /usr/lib/web2ldap/fcgi/web2ldap.py <Directory /usr/local/web2ldap/fcgi> AddHandler fastcgi-script .py </Directory> </IfModule> At this point, when I reaload apache, I start seeing this line repeated every few seconds in the "/var/log/httpd/error_log" file: [Thu May 8 23:49:40 2003] [warn] FastCGI: server "/usr/lib/web2ldap/fcgi/web2ldap.py" (pid 15751) terminated by calling exit with status '1' [Thu May 8 23:49:45 2003] [warn] FastCGI: server "/usr/lib/web2ldap/fcgi/web2ldap.py" (pid 15752) terminated by calling exit with status '1' [Thu May 8 23:49:50 2003] [warn] FastCGI: server "/usr/lib/web2ldap/fcgi/web2ldap.py" (pid 15753) terminated by calling exit with status '1' If I try to browse to "http://localhost/web2ldap-fcgi/web2ldap.py" I also see: [Thu May 8 23:49:55 2003] [warn] FastCGI: server "/usr/lib/web2ldap/fcgi/web2ldap.py" (pid 15754) terminated by calling exit with status '1' Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/lib/web2ldap/fcgi/web2ldap.py", line 14, in ? import sys,os,time,fcgi,threading ImportError: No module named fcgi [Thu May 8 23:49:58 2003] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] Premature end of script headers: /usr/lib/web2ldap/fcgi/web2ldap.py [Thu May 8 23:50:00 2003] [warn] FastCGI: server "/usr/lib/web2ldap/fcgi/web2ldap.py" (pid 15756) terminated by calling exit with status '1' I also see on the instructions this requirements: Additional web server software depends on the running mode: |Running mode | web server | SSL support +---------------+--------------------------------+-------------------- |FastCGI server | Apache with Apache module |Apache SSL or Apache | | mod_fastcgi | with mod_ssl | | and the Python module fcgi.py. | Apache SSL or Apache +---------------+--------------------------------+-------------------- | stand-alone | built-in | requires module | M2Crypto So it seem that the Python module "fcgi.py" is needed, but it has not been provided by SuSE (nowhere on the 8.1 DVD). Stand alone mode doesn't work either, it stays put and nothing shows. I start the server thus: | nimrodel:~ # /usr/lib/web2ldap/sbin/web2ldap.py -d off | Read MIME-type mapping from file /etc/mime.types. | Accepted IP address ranges: 127.0.0.1/255.0.0.0 | Running mode: multi-threaded | SSL: disabled | Changed to UID 30. | Started web server on http://localhost:1760/web2ldap | | Point your favourite browser to | | http://localhost:1760/web2ldap | | to access the web application. So I browse to http://localhost:1760/web2ldap and it shows nothing for ages ("request sent"). Using iptraf I can see that some packets were indeed transferred at the start, then nothing. So... Has anybody set it working? How? -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson

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New 8.2 install hung on dual AMD Athlon system
by Brian Jackson 08 May '03

08 May '03

Hi- I'm attempting to install suse 8.2 on a dual athlon system. It ran the config utility just fine, allowed me to partition my drives, pick the software and trolled around for a while. It installed the sofware from CD1. But, when it came time for it to reboot and continue with the next section of the install process(CD's 2-5)... it hung. It rebooted fine: 'Book from Harddisk'. GRUB said it was going into 'stage 2', it loaded linux, the welcome screen popped up(with all the languages) and now it's sitting at the chameleon with what looks like a progress bar below him and nothing else. Oh, the keyboard DOES NOT respond. No num lock, no crtl-alt F2 ... nothing. Now, the install recognized all of my drives 2 IDE drives, IDE CDRW, external FW drive and internal USB 2.0 CF card reader (the last 2 are on a joint FW/USB 2.0 PCI card). Standard keyboard, standard mouse(well, with a wheel, but even that worked during the install process) BTW, On the kernel selection, I deselected the k_amd and choose the k_smp I'd really like to know if I can salvage this install or if I need to spend another 90 minutes going through the process again? Should I have selected the default AMD kernel and then later installed and rebuilt with the SMP options? thanks in advance, brian -- Brian Jackson, President Action Athletics "Sports Photography for You" http://www.actionathletics.com

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Anyone using MS Access >2000
by Tom Nielsen 08 May '03

08 May '03

My company is using a inventory management software that depends on the use of .mdb files and ODBC files as well as Microsoft Jet database drivers. I'm wondering if anyone is using Access equal to or greater than Office 2000. I might be able to get my company moved from W2k to Linux if it works. Thanks, Tom -- Tom Nielsen Neuro Logic Systems 805.389.5435 x18 www.neuro-logic.com

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Newbie to SuSe - install question
by Michael George 08 May '03

08 May '03

I am seriously considering moving from RHL7.2/3 to SuSe 8.2. I have a test partition set up on my server for installing and testing new systems (be they upgrades or fresh-installs). But I always need to be able to boot to my "main" system. RHL has always allowed me to skip the LILO/GRUB step and make boot floppy instead. That way I have a floppy-disk "key" to the test system and the main partitions of the disk, including the boot sector, are untouched. Before I try an install of a completely new distro, I'd like confirmation that this will be poossible with SuSe. Thanks! -Michael -- A billion seconds ago Harry Truman was president. A billion minutes ago was just after the time of Christ. A billion hours ago man had not yet walked on earth. A billion dollars ago was late yesterday afternoon at the U.S. Treasury.

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RE: [SLE] 8.2 and ksh93
by Berge, Harry ten 08 May '03

08 May '03

It works fine. Personally I don't understand why this isn't the default ksh instead of the pdksh that comes with SuSE. pdksh is *FAR* outdated and AFAIK not actively maintained anymore... Regards Harry > -----Original Message----- > From: Jerry A! [SMTP:jerry@thehutt.org] > Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 10:01 PM > To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com > Subject: Re: [SLE] 8.2 and ksh93 > > On Wed, May 07, 2003 at 07:56:52PM +0200, Richard Bos wrote: > : Op woensdag 7 mei 2003 00:14, schreef Jerry A!: > : > Has anyone had any luck getting ksh93 (2003-04-22) to build under 8.2? > : > : What/Where is the source? > > It's available from <http://www.research.att.com/sw/download/>. > > : Out of curiousty,is there a special reason to use ksh? > > Personal preference. > > --Jerry > > Open-Source software isn't a matter of life or death... > ...It's much more important than that! > > -- > Check the headers for your unsubscription address > For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help(a)suse.com > Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com > Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq(a)suse.com >

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SuSE wins! Here's why...
by David Krider 08 May '03

08 May '03

I don't know if anyone will care about this, but I have to get it off my chest. I guess I'm really hoping that there are people within SuSE who will read this and take note, and take heart. I'm not looking to start a flamefest here; I just want to talk about my experiences. For several years, I've been a perfectly-content Red Hat user. All of this changed with their recent product reorganization. For those unfamiliar, their "consumer" product is now little better than a rolling beta, and they will only patch it for a year. The minimum you can spend to get their "enterprise" (read: stable) workstation product is $180 PER YEAR, PER MACHINE, but that fee gets you access to 5 years of updates. Yes, you _could_ use their enterprise product (it is still, after all, GPL software) -- if you can get hold of the binary disks (how you would install from the source rpm's, I have no idea) -- but you would still only get source rpm updates, and that whole business gets complicated fast. Bottom line? I don't want to upgrade every year, the quality went to pot, and I don't have the money to buy their server product at $300 per year on my 3 servers at home. So I went shopping. I bought SuSE 8.2 Pro Update, sight unseen. I installed it on my 2 workstations, and liked it immediately. But I was still concerned about whether SuSE would "pull a Red Hat" down the road, and leave me hanging again, so I decided to try Debian. I installed Debian on my file and print server and my firewall. Based on this success, and my desire to run whatever distro I use on both my workstations and my servers, I put it on both workstations as well. I'll spare you the details. Most of the software averages 1 to 2 years old, and none of it is integrated to work with anything else. I can see this as an advantage from one point of view. In fact, I honestly see the entire Debian policy as a really great set of ideas. However, it's been my experience that these ideals don't work well in practice. Understand: I fully recognize that Debian is loved by many people (though many less than any of SuSE, Red Hat, or Mandrake, if any of the polls I've seen show), and it certainly will work for a different set of circumstances. As long as your hardware and your requirements are two years old, you're golden with Debian. Otherwise, if Debian doesn't get kicked into high gear, they will obsolete themselves within a year (except for people who need to run Linux on non-x86 platforms, to whom a 2-year-old distro is the only choice). And I don't care how many rabid fan boys say that apt is the greatest gift given among men, it's more cumbersome to use than RPM. Sure, ok, you can do a seamless distribution upgrade. I'll grant that I don't do that. Never have. Probably because version upgrades on every platform I've worked on suck. From an anal-retentive point of view, I'm unlikely to think that even a Debian version upgrade would be cruft-free, but I haven't actually tried it. The point is that, given Debian's extremely slow production cycle, the average Debian user has only had one upgrade, from potato to woody, at best! So for all the hassle of pinning and specifying mirrors and not being able to cache local copies of said mirrors unless you have about 12 GB of disk to throw at it, *and* not being able to _reasonably_ store even just the stable distro on the network, I could have paid for the time it would have taken to clean-install all of my 8 machines a couple times over. I actually had one Debian fan tell me that it was plainly obvious to the whole Linux community that Debian owned the server room, and would extend it's dominance to the desktop any time now. I don't know what planet he's living on, but I hope it's got beautiful sunsets. I work for a Fortune 250 company, and the only Linux distro's we're talking about are Red Hat and SuSE. To even be considered, whatever Linux we wind up using is going to have to be a support organization behind it, and it's going to have to have current software in it. So far, I haven't seen a single major software vendor (RDBMS or CAE) mention anything other than RH or SuSE for Linux platforms that they support. (Well... Oracle does talk about Caldera?!) And so I'm writing this note. I've now installed SuSE on my personal firewall, file and print server, and my email and web server in addition to my two main workstations. I'm only still more impressed with the distro. For the price of the Pro Update boxed set, I get an incredible value in the community. I get 5 CD's, two DVD's, and a good primer manual (and a sticker, but...). The only gripe I have with the distro is that I had to learn the Yast2 method of administration the hard way. And, by that, I mean that after I had gotten my email all configured the way I liked it, with procmail feeding spamd and all, I moved on to work on my web server config. Suddenly, my email stopped spooling. I had run Yast2 to install something, and SuSEconfig wiped out my postfix config. Took a while to get it all sorted, but after a couple hours, I now can admin my system with the help of Yast2. I can put my custom changes in place AND keep my config rolling forward with patched RPM's. This is a _really_ awesome feature of SuSE Linux over the other distro's I'm talking about here. Back to the gripe: there just needs to be an small explanation about this whole "paradigm" in the manual. Maybe it's there, and I missed it. Perhaps it's time for *all* distro's to have a "if you're moving here from another distro" section in their manuals to get experienced Linux people up to speed on the differences. I still don't fully understand how to customize SuSEfirewall2 yet, and so I'm still using my own scripts I brought over from Red Hat, but I'm sure I'll get it going the "SuSE way" soon. SuSE wins the ditro wars in my mind. Why? - $80 full install media kit. (Sure it's not $0, but it's not $120 either, and you can get a $45 option.) - TWO YEARS of updates. (If this changes, I think I'll scream. At least support 8.2 for two years, as that was the stated policy on the web site at the time of purchase.) - Current software. (KDE 3.1, Gnome 2.2, OpenOffice 1.0.1, Mozilla 1.2.1, etc.) - Stable and nearly bug free. (The *only* issue I've seen is that gkrellm2 has a problem with the lm_sensors config panel. I compiled gkrellm(1) from sources, which has the added benefit of keeping all the gtk-widget stuff I run at 1.2, instead of the garish 2.2 stuff.) - Best administration facility I've seen in ANY *nix. (AIX is the closest with smitty.) - I know this is a holy-war topic, but that's why I'm only posting this note to suse-linux-e and not debian-user and shrike-list (must... fight... temptation...): I *like* RPM. - Fantastic updating mechanism with a great gui AND a great curses interface. (It's very easy to setup a local mirror of the updates, and even to automate local updates to look at the local mirror. Not only that, but the system actually _handles_ the dependencies, instead of just complaining.) Whew! Open letter to SuSE: PLEASE DON'T CHANGE ANYTHING!!! I think you have an enormous opportunity to sweep past Red Hat right now, on both the desktop and the server side. Your prices are better, and much more straightforward. Your software is stable and fast. Your update system doesn't leave a bad taste of Microsoft-ish bait-and-switch tactics trying to raise revenue. I think you need to pour on the marketing in the States extolling the differences and advantages you have over the competition. Kindest regards to the SuSE team abroad! dk P.S. Mandrake wasn't in the running in my mind, what with their bankruptcy casting a pall on their long-term chances. Gentoo is nitty-gritty, and that would wear thin in a server farm situation. If SuSE copies what Red Hat has done, that's still a possibility, but I hate waiting on things to compile. Slackware may be the best mix of everything for me if that happens. I haven't checked them out since I started with Linux 8 years ago. -- David "Dunkirk" Krider, http://www.davidkrider.com Acts 17:28, "For in Him we live, and move, and have our being." Linux: Will you use the power for good... or for AWESOME?

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Problems wih software raid.
by Michael Daskalov 08 May '03

08 May '03

Hi all, I have SuSE 7.2 on a machine with 4 HDDs. I have configured my root and boot to be on RAID1. I installed the machine with he latest available kernel as a patch to SuSE 7.2 (ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/update/7.2/kernel/2.4.18-20030324/k_deflt-…) I had a problem with the IDE devices. Two blocks on two different disk were reported as bad and my raid5 was broken. Testing the IBM 120GB disks with the software provided by IBM/Hitachi revealed there were no problems in the disks. Hoping that this was due to a problem with the IDE driver in the last kernel, I tried ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/mantel/next/RPM/kernel-source-2.4.20.SuSE-62.… I compiled it myself including md,raid1,raid5 in the kernel (not as modules) and there exists the following problem: After every shutdown or reboot my /dev/md0 (rootfs) device needs recyncing. It's because it's not stopped cleanly on shutdown or reboot. All other /dev/md? devices are stopped on shutdown, only this one is not. On the console I see messages like ....skip.... /dev/md1: switching to read-only mode ....skip.... /dev/md2: switching to read-only mode ....skip.... /dev/md3: switching to read-only mode ....skip.... /dev/md4: switching to read-only mode but I don't see that message for /dev/md0. Instead I see a message saying that /dev/md0 is still in use. Anyone know why this happens on newer kernels? How can I fix the problem? I didn't have this problem on k_deflt-2.4.18-262.i386.rpm . Does this version have any known problems with Intel DG845 motherboards? Help me please, Mihail Daskalov MDaskalov(a)technologica.biz

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SMB install of 8.2 fails
by John LeMay 08 May '03

08 May '03

Tried upgrading to 8.2 via SMB yesterday on a machine here and ran into an odd problem. After getting through the package selection, the "info" message box that pops up indicating what version I was upgrading from and to did not show "8.2" as the install source. However, the installation was obviously running from that location! The upgrade refused to continue since it seemed to be pretty confused. Has anyone managed an install via SMB? If I hadn't been so lazy I would have tried NFS, but instead I've resorted to a CD install (see my last email re DVD install problems). -- John LeMay KC2KTH Senior Enterprise Consultant NJMC | http://www.njmc.com | Phone 732-557-4848 Specializing in Microsoft and Unix based solutions

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