December 2002 - openSUSE Users - openSUSE Mailing Lists

content in /tmp... needed ?
by p p 09 Dec '02

09 Dec '02

I have loads of stuff in /tmp... for example following.. 0011060475 0599923142 gaimG2cwgf isj1XMLEL ksocket-pp migrate-1 0024762619 0914599738 gaimHQw0sa isjV9rE09 ksocket-ps xauth.XXXXODfn1h 0165799984 1361491948 gaim_ps.1315 ismp001 ksocket-root 0432135673 1367389618 gaim_ps.2042 ismp002 mcop-pp 0550766388 2140889804 gaim_ps.2390 kde-pp mcop-ps 0556431942 YaST2-03020 gaimmQetvl kde-ps mcop-root 0577106449 YaST2.tdir isj1HKdpS kde-root migrate all the 10-digit sets are dirs, the rest are files of some sort... Are these really still needed, or just abandoned and for some reason forgotten, These take some diskspace, so I rather get rid off these... I know if I have stored something here temporarily, but does my system need these possibly or can I safely just delete these ? P_tr

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AMD 760MP vs. 760MPX chipset?
by Alex Daniloff 09 Dec '02

09 Dec '02

Hello SuSE folkz, Could somebody from the experienced Linux server builders help me to solve this dilemma. I have a task to build Linux DB server with SCSI raid. I has to be a pure DB server without any fancy graphic and sound stuff running in run level 3 all the time. I have tho motherboards on my hands. Tyan Thunder K7X S2468UGN AMD-760MPX chipset and Tyan Tiger K7 S2462UNG AMD-760MP chipset. Which one is the best suited for a such task? I can't tell the difference in depth between MP and MPX chipset, but the board with MPX has two 64bit (3.3v and 5v) at 66 MHz PCI slots, MP has five 64bit 5v at 33 MHz PCI slots. Do modern PCI RAID controlles really support 66 MHz PCI bus or it's just a marketing bluff? Thank you in advance for any advises. Alex

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Re: [SLE] (VERY OT) <G> NASA Documentation
by Praise 09 Dec '02

09 Dec '02

> Does he explain how easily or how well you can measure the > increase of entropy in a system... when you are part of > the system? > > :-) > > /kevin Hey! I am not a physician:-) RTFB (Read the Fine Book) :-) Praise

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GPG and PGP question
by Tom Nielsen 09 Dec '02

09 Dec '02

Can I use a GPG public key with PGP 2.6.2? My Suse box uses GnuPG. I've created a public key, but my web host uses PGP on Slackware. Will PGP work with a GPG public key? Thanks, Tom -- Tom Nielsen Neuro Logic Systems 805.389.5435 x18 www.neuro-logic.com

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Update...MoneyDance
by Fred A. Miller 09 Dec '02

09 Dec '02

'Being "stonewalled" at Appgen. The MD web site is and has been down. NO ONE at Appgen will talk about MD. They also STILL haven't updated the Linux versions of MyBooks so they will run on SuES 8.1 and other new distros! In fact, they don't even had a box to install 8.1 on, or so I was told over a week ago. I'm beginning to NOT be impressed. Fred -- Fred A. Miller Systems Administrator Cornell Univ. Press Services fm(a)cupserv.org, www.cupserv.org

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YOU/Manual - what do the various text colors mean (red, blue, black), why are some boxes checked and some not, and what does YOU expect me to do next?
by DJ 09 Dec '02

09 Dec '02

Hi, I ran Yast/YOU for the second time, but in "manual" mode this time. I wanted to see if the Samba security patch was downloaded and what else was going on, etc. But I'm lost as to what YOU wants me to do and I can't find any help for YOU. I've looked in the hard copy and online. Also, during this process, I wanted to do a multiple word search in SuSE Help and I can't even figure out how to do that. Shouldn't be difficult right. Argh! The doc in the hard copy Admin manual does not match what the SuSE Help application looks like, so that's no good. In the hard copy book it looks like there should be a separate text field to enter the additional search words, but when I look at the application I don't see any. I typed multiple search words in the one main text entry field and absolutely nothing happens. Regarding YOU, after the patches are downloaded and the screen is repainted, what do the various text colors mean (red, blue, black), why are some boxes checked and some not, and what does YOU expect me to do next? I'm staring at this screen which is very colorful with absolutely no available help. This is an awful end user application (imho). Is it documented anywhere what these colors mean? Is it documented anywhere what happens if you check something or uncheck something? It appears I can do a lot on this screen, but I have no clue what the ramifications might be from my actions. I really want to understand YOU. Is it documented anywhere what YOU expects the end user to do in manual mode? Is this why people use fou4s because YOU is, hhhmmmm, lacking? Thank you in advance. -- __________________________ DJ mailto: linux_programmer(a)hotmail.com

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Judge Compares Microsoft to Tonya Harding(OT)
by Fred A. Miller 09 Dec '02

09 Dec '02

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20021206/ap_on_hi_te/micr… - -- "DRM.. Digitally Retarded Media. That's exactly what it is - content that cannot reach its full potential because of artificial restraints." -Paul Rickard -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE98XtPrnzt99/TR+cRAnywAJ4x8k6M4nSlK886AZBwpE0io9t2IwCdF9kF zz39qP5REA5aWcN8UiC2+nI= =BV28 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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k_deflt availability?
by Jeric 09 Dec '02

09 Dec '02

I noticed on the SuSE website that there is k_deflt package update available since the last week in November. Is that package going to be shown in YOU? Or do kernel updates not show in YOU? Thanks, Jeric -- JericAtSbcglobalDotNetwork 1:26am up 18 days, 17:15, 7 users, load average: 2.79, 2.02, 1.66

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(VERY OT) <G> NASA Documentation
by James Hatridge 09 Dec '02

09 Dec '02

Hi all... I've heard this tale below many times, but I don't know if there is any thing to it. Does any one know anything about it? BTW, sorry about sending it to this list, but this is the only list I'm on that is loaded with computer experts. Surely someone here knows more about it. THANKS JIM ######################## Subject: NASA and the Bible. I know this is long and will take up some of your time but let us remember we are ONE NATION UNDER GOD and GOD is for real. For all the scientists out there and for all the students who have a hard time convincing these people regarding the truth of the Bible...here's something that shows God awesome creation and shows that He is still in control. Did you know that the space program is busy proving that what has been called "myth" in the Bible is true? Mr. Harold Hill, President of the Curtis Engine Company in Baltimore Maryland and a consultant in the space program, relates the following development. "I think one of the most amazing things that God has for us today happened recently to our astronauts and space scientists at Greenbelt, Maryland. They were checking the position of the sun, moon, and planets out in space where they would be 100 years and 1000 years from now. We have to know this so we won't send a satellite, up and have it bump into something later on in its orbits. We have to lay out the orbits in terms of the life of the satellite, and where the planets will be so the whole thing will not bog down. They ran the computer measurement back and forth over the centuries and it came to a halt. The computer stopped and put up a red signal, which meant that there was something wrong either with the information fed into it or with the results as compared to the standards. They called in the service department to check it out and they said, "What's wrong?" Well, they found there is a day missing in space in elapsed time. They scratched their heads and tore their hair. There was no answer. Finally, a Christian man on the team said, "You know, one time I was in Sunday School and they talked about the sun standing still. "While they didn't believe him, they didn't have an answer either, so they said, "Show us." He got a Bible and went back to the book of Joshua where they found a pretty ridiculous statement for any one with "common sense." There they found the Lord saying to Joshua, "Fear them not, I have delivered them into thy hand; there shall not a man of them stand before thee." Joshua was concerned because he was surrounded by the enemy and if darkness fell they would overpower them. So Joshua asked the Lord to make the sun stand still! That's right-"The sun stood still and the moon stayed-and hasted not to go down about a whole day!" (Joshua 10:12-13) The astronauts and scientists said, "There is the missing day!" They checked the computers going back into the time it was written and found it was close but not close enough. The elapsed time that was missing back in Joshua's day was 23 hours and 20 minutes-not a whole day. They read the Bible and there it was "about (approximately) a day" These little words in the Bible are important, but they were still in trouble because if you cannot account for 40 minutes you'll still be in trouble 1,000 years from now. Forty minutes had to be found because it can be multiplied many times over in orbits. As the Christian employee thought about it, he remembered somewhere in the Bible where it said the sun went BACKWARDS. The scientists told him he was out of his mind, but they got out the Book and read these words in 2 Kings that told of the following story: Hezekiah, on his deathbed, was visited by the prophet Isaiah who told him that he was not going to die. Hezekiah asked for a sign as proof. Isaiah said "Do you want the sun to go ahead 10 degrees?" Hezekiah said "It is nothing for the sun to go ahead 10 degrees, but let the shadow return backward 10 degrees." Isaiah spoke to the Lord and the Lord brought the shadow ten degrees BACKWARD! Ten degrees is exactly 40 minutes! Twenty-three hours and 20 minutes in Joshua, plus 40 minutes in Second Kings make the missing day in the universe!" Isn't it amazing? References: Joshua 10:8 and 12,13 and 2 Kings 20:9-11. Forward this to as many people who you believe would think this is equally as cool. ------------------------------------------------------- -- Jim Hatridge Linux User #88484 ------------------------------------------------------ BayerWulf Linux System # 129656 The Recycled Beowulf Project Looking for throw-away or obsolete computers and parts to recycle into a Linux super computer

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Re: [SLE] why reboots my system spontaneous?
by Constant Brouerius van Nidek 09 Dec '02

09 Dec '02

CPU temp. according to gkrellm and the cmos, 42 Celsius, rpm of the fan 4300. Temp of the housing with two fans, 32 Celsius. Wattage of the power supply, (one month old) 400 watt because I suspected my old power supply to be the cause of same problem. It had only 250 watt. Defect ram was exchanged and I check it regularly. If I check the values of gkrellm and the values that my cmos shows me they are same. Could though that the sensors are somehow defect but that is difficult to check I assume. Reason why I am looking at the software side is because I have tried to exclude hardware failures and the symptom always shows up with the use of find. I can normally see in advance when a freeze or reboot are in the make. Will next time kill the find and see if I survive the expected reboot. Any ideas how to pin down the reboot thing further. Are there any CPU hungry programs that I could run unattended in order to try to repeat the freeze/reboot? Running find in console or in ICEwm also repeats the symptoms. JM>On 12/04/2002 10:19 PM, Constant Brouerius van Nidek JM>wrote: JM>>On Gkrellm I see a 100% use of my cpu some disc JM>activity JM>How are your CPU fans? I would suspect overheating, JM>usually seen with a JM>CPU intensive app running, or possibly Power Supply, as JM>the CPU would JM>draw more current as its temp goes up, coupled with the JM>HD drain on the JM>PS, especially if it is a bit underpowered. But it JM>does sound like JM>hardware to me. -- NTReader v0.36w(P)/Beta (Registered) in conjunction with Net-Tamer.

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