Yep, read that this morning. It was on linuxworld's site. I found it while chasing down the Linux would hurt desktop growth for M$ article you posted earlier. Sounds like another Judge that isn't bought off and also doesn't seem too warm to M$ in the slightest. I like the part about M$ knee capping the competition and the rebuttal to the M$ "expert" witness stating that the Judges inclination to setting things right would unbalance the scales, The exchange was reported as such: "Murphy on Thursday told Motz that tilting the market in Sun's favor with the must-carry Java provision would not solve the problem. "It was tilted one way once, tilting it the other way now does not compensate," said Murphy." "But Motz immediately interjected, saying that Sun's remedy might result in a leveled market rather than a tilted market." Judge Motz said that he felt as if he were in a position to un-engineer the market that M$ had engineered to it's favor. He did give the Sun team some unexplained advice and "said Sun might want to drop its request for a preliminary injunction on carrying Java and set aside its claim for more than $1 billion in damages. Motz did not elaborate on why he made this suggestion." The U of Chicago economist seems to not have impressed the Judge in the least. Perhaps, the Judge feels the Prof Murphy a bit transparent as to the motivation for his testimony? Judge Motz is also directly overseeing AOL/Time Warner, Be Inc, and Burst.com cases filed as a class action case on the consumers behave. If this is an indication of the Judges sentiments toward M$, and the fact that the record against M$ relating to Illegal/anit-trust behavior, it looks like it could get nasty for M$ - at least to a point. Whether or not anything substantive comes from all of this there's one thing that pleases me already. More negative press and threats to net worth, stock valuations, and consumer confidence - one of the things IMHO that M$ fears the most. Cheers, Curtis Judge Motz was also to have said that he "had suggested Sun drop some demands and go directly to trial on whether to force Microsoft to carry Java." "But Motz immediately interjected, saying that Sun's remedy might result in a leveled market rather than a tilted market." On Friday 06 December 2002 22:38, Fred A. Miller wrote:

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