June 2000 - openSUSE Users - openSUSE Mailing Lists

Re: [SLE] Unwelcome warnings from include files
by pinard＠iro.umontreal.ca 27 Jun '00

27 Jun '00

[Philipp Thomas] > This is a bug in gcc 2.95.2 [...] If you want the patch, just send > me a mail. [...] IMHO -Wconversion is of limited use [...] Philipp, let me thank you for the explanation, offer, and advice. In the meantime, I'll merely remove the most cumbersome `-W...', and try restoring some of them after SuSE 7.0. > For the __strsep_g issue you might like to ask on > libc-alpha(a)sourceware.cygnus.com . I'm not feeling comfortable enough with `libc' development to report a bug which I do not see clearly myself, and I would like to resist diving deep in studying this one. Maybe I'm getting old, maybe things have changed. There are _so_ many things that should work simultaneously, when you prepare a distribution, that one gets easily lost if not trying to stay on track. For example, each time I hit a `libtool', `autoconf' or `automake' problem, that often means _days_ of study, exploration and exchanges with other maintainers, each time. And various `gettext' and `libit' issues are not easy either. [Andreas Jaeger] > Yes, your hope [of "warning-clean" include files] is reasonable - and as > glibc developers we strive to fix this but depend on external programs - > and not always compile with all possible flags. I usually try to preset `CFLAGS' to many warnings in the environment at `login' time, and the `CFLAGS' value then gets configured into `config.status' rather automatically. I lost this settings due to some operator error, a while ago, and did not notice. But some of my users have lynx eyes, and got to me with many such accumulated warnings to solve! :-) I guess, Andreas, that `libc' developers could use a similar trick, maybe, to make sure that nothing escape their scrutiny. [Andreas Schwab] > Don't use -Wconversion. It is useless with ISO-C code. It is only > usefull if you want to add prototypes to K&R-C code, and want to know > about cases where `foo (char)' is actually `foo (int)' in absense of > prototypes. I removed it, Andreas, according to your suggestion and explanations. Thanks to all for your clear and thoughtful replies. P.S. - I usually prefer relating directly to friendly maintainers and individuals, than to wide mailing lists and cold committees. Strangely, the [SLE] list is so friendly that I sometimes have the feeling of writing to an individual. P.P.S. - I have a bit of the same feeling with the [Python] main list, yet it gets diluted as the list seem to quickly grow. I hope that the raising popularity of Python will not kill the spirit, as it did for Perl. Small is beautiful! :-) -- François Pinard http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/~pinard -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe(a)suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help(a)suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/

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[SLE] Upgrading from 6.3 to 6.4
by raghav＠easi.soft.net 27 Jun '00

27 Jun '00

Hi, Sorry for the typo in my previous mail.I have installed SuSE 6.3 on my m/c which is a P III with Intel 810 chipset. Are there any advantages in upgrading from 6.3 to 6.4 OS?? Any performance issues in 6.4?? Or can i just upgrade my Xfree 86 version 3.3.5 to 3.3.6 or 4.0?? Also, Can i use the 6.4 CDs for upgrading only the Xserver?? Raghav -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe(a)suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help(a)suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/

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[SLE] Naff System ???
by charlie＠centrenet.co.uk 27 Jun '00

27 Jun '00

Hi All, I'm a newbie to Linux, formerly DR-Dos, MS-Dos, W3.1, W3.11, W95, W98, NT. Been lurking on the list for a couple of months hoping to gain some useful tips before installing 6.4, frankly 80% of the postings relate to quite severe problems so things do not auger well!!! System is AMD Athlon 500, 128m Ram, 17G HD, 3D S320 II Ultra 32meg vid,PCI modem - K56, Trust 19200 USB scanner, HP 610C printer, DVD, Cd-RW. All of which run perfectly under 95 & 98 10G dedicated to SuSE 6.4 Now on my 4th install in a week, default option.(Yast 2) KDE etc sets up fine but ALSA will not run, SANE will not run,Linux does not recognise the modem, Yast will not add or delete, kpackage is duff but the kpackage.3 patch will not load (had to download using Win and transfer to floppy), most of the included progs either do not run/lock the box/give "cannot execute" messages, etc etc etc (why even bother to include them on the CD's) ANY help appreciated, BUT if this is the "normal" state of affairs with the Linux system then I think that "Uncle Bill" can sleep soundly at night, it's a "no contest" to Microshaft with all it's faults. I'm prepared to persevere for another month or so, from "the literatue" Linux has what I need, and I want to dump MS, but the trash can is beginning to look a likely depository for 6 CD's.(will probably use them as bird scarers in the garden) It would be interesting to find out how many people in a 1000 that start trying to use Linux actually stay with it, and have a "useable" system. Sorry about the moans but I'm getting very frustrated. Cheers Mike -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe(a)suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help(a)suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/

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RE: [SLE] Move to new hard drive
by MDCleary＠dgexchange.dg.com 27 Jun '00

27 Jun '00

Strangely enough, I had to disable UDMA in the BIOS before Windows would boot with this drive connected. I don't know why this made a difference (I stumbled on it by accident), but in any case disabling UDMA on a UDMA 66 drive was not acceptable. So I finally just bought a UDMA 66 controller card & hooked the new drive up to it. I think the problem must have been my BIOS version (even though I have the latest available from the motherboard manufacturer). Linux saw all the drives w/ no problem - somehow I'm not surprised! :) Now all I have to do is try & move my Linux installation to the new drive... ....which may be the subject of another posting I think. Thanks to all who responded! Mike -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael Cleary UNIX Qualification and Commands Data General, a Division of EMC2 62 T.W. Alexander Dr. Research Triangle Park, NC mdcleary(a)dg-rtp.dg.com (919) 248-6033 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: Daniel_Casey(a)mail.jbhunt.com [mailto:Daniel_Casey@mail.jbhunt.com] Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2000 10:37 PM To: Cleary, Mike Subject: RE: [SLE] Move to new hard drive Have you had any success with this? You may want to create a bootable diskette with fdisk on it to make sure that win98 can see it? Are you using LILO? How's it installed? Also, does Linux see both drives? Probably some silly questions, but they might help. "Cleary, Mike" <MDCleary(a)dgexchange.dg.com> on 06/20/2000 13:28:21 To: "'suse-linux-e(a)suse.com'" <suse-linux-e(a)suse.com> cc: Subject: RE: [SLE] Move to new hard drive Haven't heard from the list all day..........server probs? I installed the new hard drive last night - seemed to go smoothly until I tried to reboot. Win98 hung at the logo screen & would only boot into safe mode. If I disconnected the drive, it booted fine. Linux booted just fine with the drive connected.....:) (not real surprising). Maxtor has not been much help...but at least it was a toll-free number. Anyone ever run across this before? I've installed lots of drives on various machines and have not seen this happen before. Any idea would be greatly appreciated? Thanks, Mike -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael Cleary UNIX Qualification and Commands Data General, a Division of EMC2 62 T.W. Alexander Dr. Research Triangle Park, NC mdcleary(a)dg-rtp.dg.com (919) 248-6033 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: Mearl Danner [mailto:jmdanner@samford.edu] Sent: Monday, June 19, 2000 3:00 PM To: Cleary, Mike Subject: RE: [SLE] Move to new hard drive Could be if you cable up the new drive on the secondary controller and use PQMagic to copy the linux partition to the new drive, you could: 1. do the partition copy. 2. Boot to your old linux (nothing's changed, The new drive will be hdc) primary master = hda primary slave = hdb secondary master = hdc secondary slave = hdd Even without the primary slave the secondary master will be hdc. 3. edit the lilo.conf & fstab to reflect the new /dev designation. You might need to add linear to the lilo.conf depending on how your BIOS handles the new drive's geometry. 4. Set up BootMagic to reflect your new setup. I don't think lilo will handle 2 linux boot partitions on separate drives. You can leave the old linux as is and use it if necessary. On Mon, 19 Jun 2000 14:45:12 -0400 "Cleary, Mike" <MDCleary(a)dgexchange.dg.com> wrote: > Thanks - I see what you are saying, but I think my situation is a little > different. > My Win 98 and Linux are not on separate partitions of the same drive, but > are on separate drives. The Win 98 drive is the master on the primary IDE, > and the Linux drive is the slave on the primary IDE. What I want to do now > is move Linux to the new drive which will be the master on the secondary > IDE controller. I guess the safest thing would be to make a boot disk for > the > current installation, then change lilo.conf to reflect the new drive > designation, > and hope for the best! :) > > Which reminds me, when I installed 6.3, there was no option to make a boot > disk, only a "rescue" disk. I know there was some discussion about this on > the list, but I don't remember the resolution. I'll check the SuSE site... > > Thanks, > > Mike > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Michael Cleary > UNIX Qualification and Commands > Data General, a Division of EMC2 > 62 T.W. Alexander Dr. > Research Triangle Park, NC > mdcleary(a)dg-rtp.dg.com (919) 248-6033 > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mearl Danner [mailto:jmdanner@samford.edu] > Sent: Monday, June 19, 2000 1:48 PM > To: Cleary, Mike > Subject: Re: [SLE] Move to new hard drive > > > When I went to my new "big drive" I put it in as the primary drive on the > secondary IDE controller and use BootMagic to select the partition I boot > from. > That way my Win/linux drive remained the same - /dev/hdax - and I had the > luxury of using the old linux to make sure the lilo configuration and the > fstab > (I seem to always forget those) entries are correct. > > After everything is tested, you can do away with the old linux partition (or > > use the space to play with the 2.3/2.4 stuff) and increase your windows > partition. I really like having 2 linux partitions on 2 separate drives. > Gives > me the freedom to try something a bit risky without loosing the whole deal. > > Remember to have a working floopy boot setup "just in case". > > On Mon, 19 Jun 2000 10:45:02 -0400 "Cleary, Mike" > <MDCleary(a)dgexchange.dg.com> > wrote: > > > I have a dual boot system (Win 98 and SuSE 6.3) w/ Linux on a 3.5 GB > > drive. For Father's day I got a new 20 GB drive (absolutely no hinting on > > my part of course - a total surprise......:-) ) and I want to move my > Linux > > installation to the new drive. I have Partition Magic 5.0, so it will be > no > > problem to copy the existing partitions to the new drive (although it may > > take a while!). I am keeping the 3.5 GB drive, but am removing an > > old 1 GB drive and therefore drive letters will change. My question is > how > > best to modify LILO so I'll be able to boot from the new drive without > > destroying > > my ability to boot from the old drive if necessary. My current lilo.conf > > includes > > "lilo boot= /dev/hdb3" along w/ a couple of different kernels. Could I > > just simply > > add a "third" kernel (actually pointing to the same kernel image) but > change > > the > > boot path to /dev/hdXX (whatever the drive turns out to be)? > > > > Any thoughts, ideas, warnings? > > > > TIA, > > > > Mike > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Michael Cleary > > UNIX Qualification and Commands > > Data General, a Division of EMC2 > > 62 T.W. Alexander Dr. > > Research Triangle Park, NC > > mdcleary(a)dg-rtp.dg.com (919) 248-6033 > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > -- > > To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe(a)suse.com > > For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help(a)suse.com > > > Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/ > > > > ----------------------------------------- > Mearl Danner > Data Communications/Network Specialist > Email: jmdanner(a)samford.edu > Samford University ----------------------------------------- Mearl Danner Data Communications/Network Specialist Email: jmdanner(a)samford.edu Samford University -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe(a)suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help(a)suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/ -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe(a)suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help(a)suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/

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[SLE] system bus speed
by paul＠appjaws.co.uk 27 Jun '00

27 Jun '00

Hi all, On my boot log is an entry :- ide: Assuming 40 MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx Should I set this to something? or just leave it? I am running suse 6.4 with an AMD K6 400 with 100 MHz ram. any help would be welcomed Thanks regards Paul -- This message was sent from Suse LINUX running KMail Have a nice day! -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe(a)suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help(a)suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/

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RE: [SLE] Off-Topic - see linux partitions from windows
by TFarrell＠fallschurch.esys.com 27 Jun '00

27 Jun '00

David, This may not be what you are looking for but it's something. <: As far as the f/s driver is concearned... While it's not currently maintained, there is fsdext2: http://www.yipton.demon.co.uk/ There is a rumor & dead link for an ext2 driver for NT here & real stuff for OS/2: http://perso.wanadoo.fr/matthieu.willm/ext2-os2/ Thom -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe(a)suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help(a)suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/

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[SLE] Off-Topic - see linux partitions from windows
by Eddie.Watkins＠mail.moray.gov.uk 27 Jun '00

27 Jun '00

Hi Does anyone know of a windows program that lets you see linux partitions and files in an explorer type interface. TIA Eddie Watkins Eddie.Watkins(a)mail.moray.gov.uk -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe(a)suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help(a)suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/

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[SLE] console Midnight under X
by sle＠mmts.nsys.by 27 Jun '00

27 Jun '00

Hello, Guys! Has anyone succeeded pasting a text into kvt/MC editor window from X clipboard? What's the best x terminal? Does any X terminal fully emulate the real textmode console (shift keys, proper keyboard handling, etc.) ? Thanks, George. -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe(a)suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help(a)suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/

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[SLE] KDE package manager?
by sander.van.vugt＠azlan.nl 27 Jun '00

27 Jun '00

Hi, Is there any package manager that runs in KDE? In earlier days I worked with kpackage, but I can't find it anywhere now. Thanks, Sander ********************************************************************** Disclaimer This email is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the Azlan Holdings bv and/or subsidiary. If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this email in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please notify Azlan Holdings MIS Helpdesk by telephone on +31 (0) 79 3443200. ********************************************************************** -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe(a)suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help(a)suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/

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[SLE] tcsh script to change case of files and directories
by activex1＠one.net 27 Jun '00

27 Jun '00

I have a directory that I would like to change all the filename to lower case. Anyone have any thoughts on an easy way to do that in tcsh? Sam -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe(a)suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help(a)suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/

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