January 1999 - openSUSE Users - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[SuSE Linux] WindowMaker-0.50.0
by hekate＠intergate.bc.ca 09 Jan '99

09 Jan '99

Well, it seems that I was right to wait on the lates WM. Alfredo just put up a new release with patches/bug fixes for WindowMaker 0.50.0 ( WindowMaker-0.50.1) according to a recent mail to the WM list. Just an FYI for WM fans and for those that haven't installed -.50.0--that it might be best to grab this one instead from the usual place. -M - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the archiv at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>>

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[SuSE Linux] problems after installing linuxconf
by hoog＠zeelandnet.nl 09 Jan '99

09 Jan '99

Hallo, After I installed linuxconf1.13r9 I got lots of trouble. Even after I disabled SuSEconfig in the config.rc file. It looks like linuxconf was not aware of the suse init scripts at bootup, because things like the apache server got started twice, and even worse, my whole ISDN configuration is wrecked. Is there a way to delete linuxconf and getting the suse init scripts back at work? I already tried to delete linuxconf with rpm, but the booting process is still not wat it was Vincent - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the archiv at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>>

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[SuSE Linux] Netscape e-mail question
by tux＠datapro.co.za 09 Jan '99

09 Jan '99

I have just installed Communicator 4.5 this morning and wow, what an improvement over 4.05 especially in the mail window. However there is only little thing that I can't find an option for that I could do in both Outlook Express and Outlook 98. I like to read messages in the preview window rather than opening a message window. I would like messages to remain unread until I explicitly mark them read. Is this possible? -- Steve Crane stevec(a)netlane.com <A HREF="http://www.datapro.co.za/~stevec"><A HREF="http://www.datapro.co.za/~stevec</A">http://www.datapro.co.za/~stevec</A</A>> - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the archiv at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>>

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[SuSE Linux] mailer
by alexm＠quake.tx.symbio.net 09 Jan '99

09 Jan '99

Hi, does anybody know which mail program creates that "trying to kill the keyboard "responder" produced:" message when replying? thanks, -alexm - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the archiv at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>>

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[SuSE Linux] problems with RPM
by hoog＠zeelandnet.nl 09 Jan '99

09 Jan '99

I have run intro some problems with RPM on my suse 5.3 linux box When I install a RPM with rpm -i rpmfilename.rpm everythings OK. When I want to query the installed rpm or delete the installed rpm (with rpm -e rpmfilename.rpm or wpm -e rpmfilename) I got a message saying that it cannot be done since the file is NOT installed. When I do a rpm -i filename.rpm again, I got a message saying that the package is already installed. The files are on my system, so they are installed. What's going on? Can somebody help me out with this one? I already tried to rebuild the rpm database with rpm --rebuilddb Vincent - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the archiv at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>>

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[SuSE Linux] [Fwd: SOFT, PC: Linux in industry??]
by leonmcclatchey＠homemail.com 09 Jan '99

09 Jan '99

<PRE> Hi all:-) I just saw this post in another list that I subscribe to. This other list is mainly concerned with different industry standards and lately I have seen a lot of linux related posts on it. Not sure due to bandwidth if I did the right thing in forwarding this message to this list. But, it does say quite a bit about the capabilities of Linux in general so......:=) -- cya l8r Leon McClatchey leonmcclatchey(a)homemail.com Linux User 78912 (Win95 Box) </PRE> -- BEGIN included message <BLOCKQUOTE> <UL> <LI>To: <A HREF="mailto:AUTOMATION@mind.control.com">AUTOMATION(a)mind.control.com</A></LI> <LI>Subject: Re: SOFT, PC: Linux in industry??</LI> <LI>From: List Management Account <<A HREF="mailto:listm@CTHULHU.CONTROL.COM">listm(a)CTHULHU.CONTROL.COM</A>></LI> <LI>Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 16:43:07 -0500</LI> <LI>Approved-By: listm(a)CTHULHU.CONTROL.COM</LI> <LI>Comments: To: automation(a)cthulhu.control.com</LI> <LI>Reply-To: "The Automation mailing list, managed by Control Technology Corporation" <<A HREF="mailto:AUTOMATION@mind.control.com">AUTOMATION(a)mind.control.com</A>></LI> <LI>Sender: "The Automation mailing list, managed by Control Technology Corporation" <<A HREF="mailto:AUTOMATION@mind.control.com">AUTOMATION(a)mind.control.com</A>></LI> </UL> <PRE> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 23:10:24 -0600 From: Curt Wuollet <cwuollet(a)ecenet.com> To: "The Automation mailing list" <AUTOMATION(a)CONTROL.COM> Subject: Re: SOFT, PC: Linux in industry?? Hi, all; Actually, if people were to want one OS across the board, Linux would have a better chance than anything else. It offers much better stabiliity than anything MS, realtime facilities (several flavors), it can mount and write to MS filesystems, UNIX filesystems, Novell, Apple, and offers excellent programming facilities. Ethernet, serial, ATM, ISDN, 3780, SCSI,...... and the list goes on. In short whatever you have now on the corporate side, Linux can talk to it. I use it regularly as the display device for Cimplicity. Implimenting the many diverse and bizzarre proprietary fieldbus protocols would be much easier with example drivers and source code available than under closed proprietary systems like NT. For example, I can write directly to a Cimplicity database. ( Of course, I haven't done that :^) ) I think it would make an excellent "all in one" realtime with HMI system, kinda like what they are doing with NT, minus the big bucks and the crashes. It would also excel as a cell controller, providing I/O, logic, and coordination for several machines. NIST has even got a project using Linux for robot and NMC functions. I haven't heard anything negative about the tasks that Linux has been put to, just a lot of FUD about support. If you're technical enough to work with this stuff and you have the source, you don't need support. Anything that comes up is less hassle to fix yourself than it is to find someone who knows what you are talking about in typical phone support situations. (there are exceptions) I see it as a solution to many problems, not the least of which is the proprietary "tower of babel". If all the standards are available at no extra cost, people would be encouraged to standardize. If people could just control their knee jerk reactions, based on what UNIX was ten years ago with it's many flavors and high costs, and try to see the possibilities, the inevitable would happen sooner. Look at it this way, with 34 million less lines of code, it's just a better idea for critical systems space for flames Curt Wuollet Linux Systems Engineer Heartland Engineering Co Sam Moore Square D Company/Groupe Shneider wrote: > I think it comes down to support cost. Each type of technology that is > installed requires training and often replacement parts. No one wants to > add another type of technology to the mix unless they absolutely have to. > This goes for anything, but especially computing technology which is > quickly converging on off-the-shelf components. > > If a shop can standardize on Linux and develop a migration plan that will > eliminate other operating systems then they will be much more willing to > take it on. In the short-term, this should be appealing to shops that are > running a number of different UNIX flavors. > > But why not go for it all? Certainly, no one expects a facility to go to > Linux for everything. That just won't happen. Given that, why not try to > have one operating system to support rather than two: NT and Linux. > > Even if companies do provide support for Linux seldom do you see them drop > NT support. It is one thing for Opto22 to support a Linux device driver. > It is another thing for them to switch their emphasis from NT to Linux. > > Ultimately, the data needs to get to the corporate desktop which is > Windows-based. Look at documentation from companies like Opto22 and you > will see them promoting their ability to easily share information with > Windows desktop applications. If Opto22's products work on NT, an operating > system I already have to support, then why do I want to train/hire people > to support Linux? ***************************************************************** Check out the new archive of the Automation List! It's at <A HREF="http://www.control.com/exchange/archive"><A HREF="http://www.control.com/exchange/archive</A">http://www.control.com/exchange/archive</A</A>>. Before posting, please read <A HREF="http://www.control.com/alist/faq.txt"><A HREF="http://www.control.com/alist/faq.txt</A">http://www.control.com/alist/faq.txt</A</A>>. The Automation List is managed by Control Technology Corporation. </PRE> </BLOCKQUOTE> -- END included message

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[SuSE Linux] size of user names
by stefos＠multimedia-sa.gr 09 Jan '99

09 Jan '99

I have an Suse Linux (5.2 with some patches and kernel updates). I want to have users names longer than 8 characters, but the useradd program does not allow longer names. As I saw in the useradd source files, the program takes the max length of hte user-name from a utmp.h header file, which indeed has a 8 character restriction. How can I increase the length of the user name?? Do I need to recompile the useradd sources with a changed utmp.h file??? And what for is this utmp.h???? Any help??? Stefanos Karasavvidis stefos(a)multimedia-sa.gr </PRE> <PRE> begin:vcard n:Karasavvidis;Stefanos tel;fax:+30 821 88427 tel;work:+30 821 88447 x-mozilla-html:TRUE url:<A HREF="http://www.multimedia-sa.gr"><A HREF="http://www.multimedia-sa.gr</A">http://www.multimedia-sa.gr</A</A>> org:Multimedia Systems Center S.A. adr:;;Kissamou 178;Chania;;73100;Hellas version:2.1 email;internet:stefos@multimedia-sa.gr title:Electronics & Computer Engineer x-mozilla-cpt:;-1 fn:Stefanos Karasavvidis end:vcard

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[SuSE Linux] PC World Today: Microsoft Overcharged Users $10 Billion
by fmiller＠lightlink.com 09 Jan '99

09 Jan '99

<A HREF="http://www.pcworld.com/cgi-bin/pcwtoday?ID=9281"><A HREF="http://www.pcworld.com/cgi-bin/pcwtoday?ID=9281</A">http://www.pcworld.com/cgi-bin/pcwtoday?ID=9281</A</A>> - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the archiv at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>>

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[SuSE Linux] Real Player for Linux
by mikeorr＠cyberenet.net 09 Jan '99

09 Jan '99

Has anyone successfully gotten a real player to work for SuSE 5.3. I tried the rpm version and get a segmentation fault every time I try to run it. -Mike - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the archiv at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>>

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Re: [SuSE Linux] CNN - Microsoft downplays security threat to Excel - January 7, 1999
by kingr＠icon.co.za 09 Jan '99

09 Jan '99

I once visited Mission Control at the JSC in Houston. At the back of the room, you can see through the glass a work station where they monitor/control (?) the engines of the Space Shuttle.... funnily enough, they didn't appear to be using MS Windows either... The phrase "mission critical" comes to mind! Richard King Johannesburg -----Original Message----- From: George Toft <LinuxAdvocate(a)iname.com> To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com <suse-linux-e(a)suse.com> Date: 09 January 1999 06:09 Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] CNN - Microsoft downplays security threat to Excel - January 7, 1999 > >zentara wrote: >> > >The decision to use NT on the cruiser last year (the one >that blue >screened an put the ship dead-in-the-water) was made by a >committee >of three people (obviously MS brainwashees). That decision >is being >revisited. It sure makes my day when I go on a submarine >and see >the all-too-familiar motif screens purring away flawlessly. >I've >talked with the network admins on a couple subs, and they >say >Unix works like a champ, and NT and Novell cause all of >their >problems. > >Too bad those who make the decisions don't consult those who >have >to live with the decisions. > > >George >-- >Please note new e-mail address and change your >address books accordingly. Thank you. > >- >To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with >this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e >Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the >archiv at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>> > - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the archiv at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>>

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