September 1998 - openSUSE Users - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[SuSE Linux] 5.3 sound snafu
by mlankton＠home.com 06 Sep '98

06 Sep '98

I overreacted re. my disappointment over 5.3 and I apologize for making public posts concerning my frustration before I had investigated the problem fully. This is what I have been able to determine with a fair amount of certainty so far: 1. Sound is partially broken in 5.3, but if you use OSS (I have tried both 3.9x and 3.7x with complete success on an AWE32 pnp) you should be ok. If you uncomment sound in /etc/conf.modules you can use a modular kernel-based sound driver _BUT_ anything that uses /dev/dsp appears to be broken (no midi at all, most games use /dev/dsp so no games for the most part). mp3 and cd players all seem to work fine. 2. Using isapnp to initialize your joystick port may indeed provide functioning joystick support while using OSS for sound. I have determined that version1.2.9 of the linux kernel joystick driver is what was breaking my joystick, I have resumed using version1.2.7 and it works fine now(I can't test this in 5.3 because I do not have 5.3 installed). So, I probably could end up with a functional 5.3 install now that I know what I do. Frankly, if my system is broke, I should be the one to break it. I blew my cool because 5.3 appeared to be broken out of the box. Well, it wasn't completely 5.3's fault, but 5.3 does have issues regarding sound, your mileage may vary. I trust S.u.S.E. will be able to figure out what is breaking kernel sound in 5.3 and let us know when there is a fix. I apologize to Lenz, Hubert, Bodo, and all of the list subscribers for my reaction on the list. I should have been more patient and waited to post. Hopefully you all realize that being human we all do things that we would have handled differently given the passage of time. -- .###. /#######\## -==============================================- ;##### ;# Mike's WindowMaker ;##### ;# <A HREF="http://tasteslikechicken.ml.org/windowmaker.html"><A HREF="http://tasteslikechicken.ml.org/windowmaker.html</A">http://tasteslikechicken.ml.org/windowmaker.html</A</A>> \# /## -==============================================- ###'---'#### - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[SuSE Linux] hotmail.com
by mlankton＠home.com 06 Sep '98

06 Sep '98

I would encourage any list members using hotmail not to do so on this list. Most of my spam comes from hotmail accounts and I'm finally adding the whole domain to my email filter. I'm sure I'm not the only one who has a spam problem. -- .###. /#######\## -==============================================- ;##### ;# Mike's WindowMaker ;##### ;# <A HREF="http://tasteslikechicken.ml.org/windowmaker.html"><A HREF="http://tasteslikechicken.ml.org/windowmaker.html</A">http://tasteslikechicken.ml.org/windowmaker.html</A</A>> \# /## -==============================================- ###'---'#### - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[SuSE Linux] My previous comments on PnP
by martin_moeller＠technologist.com 06 Sep '98

06 Sep '98

Hello there! I was a bit quick on the trigger with the PCI PnP stuff, but pretty close, nevertheless. This -> <A HREF="http://www.freiburg.linux.de/PnP/"><A HREF="http://www.freiburg.linux.de/PnP/</A">http://www.freiburg.linux.de/PnP/</A</A>> <- is the driver I was referring to and, lo and behold, right on that page they mention that they *will* be supporting PCI PnP later on. So while I was wrong in saying it had PCI support (now) I was at least right in it being to one to eventually have it ;) Just to clear up the mistakes -- and my appologies to anyone getting their hope up. -- Martin Moeller. - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[SuSE Linux] gui mount app
by mlankton＠home.com 06 Sep '98

06 Sep '98

I find an rxvt more intuitive than gui tools for X, but I know that gui apps make linux a lot more comfortable for the new user. Here is a tcl/tk mount app for managing your cdrom/zipdrive/floppy that some of you may find useful. <A HREF="http://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/X11/xutils/tkmount-1.0.tar.gz"><A HREF="http://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/X11/xutils/tkmount-1.0.tar.gz</A">http://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/X11/xutils/tkmount-1.0.tar.gz</A</A>> -- .###. /#######\## -==============================================- ;##### ;# Mike's WindowMaker ;##### ;# <A HREF="http://tasteslikechicken.ml.org/windowmaker.html"><A HREF="http://tasteslikechicken.ml.org/windowmaker.html</A">http://tasteslikechicken.ml.org/windowmaker.html</A</A>> \# /## -==============================================- ###'---'#### - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [SuSE Linux] First Mail from Linux
by kevcol＠yahoo.com 06 Sep '98

06 Sep '98

> I don't know how this will look, but I am at least logged on and using KMail. Woo hoo! Congratulations! _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at <A HREF="http://mail.yahoo.com"><A HREF="http://mail.yahoo.com</A">http://mail.yahoo.com</A</A>> - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [SuSE Linux] SuSE 5.3 not as nice as 5.2
by punt＠gte.net 06 Sep '98

06 Sep '98

Well, first impressions of 5.3 are not all that good. Tried to install on a laptop that had a 1GB primary partition(NT) and 2gb unpartation space(for LINUX) First the pcmcia module couldn't start the cardmanager as I started the install (the 5.2 does fine). Then when I said a new install and went to partition the disk, it gives a big red message saying error occurred and stops. So..... go to 5.2, install just fine, then have to do an update! Not great for a first impression with four more laptops to do and a few servers. Hope second and third impressions are better. - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[SuSE Linux] XFMail
by steve＠millsphoto.com 06 Sep '98

06 Sep '98

This is a test of XFMail. I like the look of KMail better, but this is far more powerful. Now if I can just master all its nuances. While I'm on the subject, could someone tell me the easiest way to cancel diald, besides "killall diald"? Can I just edit the boot file or do I need to do it through YaST? The only way to keep my wvdial connection is to NOT used diald, obviously. Thanks again. I gotta do some REAL stuff today for a while. :) Steve ---------------------------------- E-Mail: steve(a)millsphoto.com Date: 06-Sep-98 Time: 10:54:29 This message was sent by XFMail ---------------------------------- - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[SuSE Linux] OSS....where?
by steve＠millsphoto.com 06 Sep '98

06 Sep '98

I have 5.3, I added OSS to the installation, but it is nowhere on the menu. I have poked around, asked for man pages, etc. Before I turn to the how-to's, could someone simply shove me in the right direction? Thanks. Steve <A HREF="http://www.millsphoto.com"><A HREF="http://www.millsphoto.com</A">http://www.millsphoto.com</A</A>> - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [SuSE Linux] Re: 5.3 is going, going...
by kevcol＠yahoo.com 06 Sep '98

06 Sep '98

---Michael Lankton <mlankton(a)home.com> wrote: > > > I lived in Portland in 1987. I really miss Oregon. I moved to Seattle > afterwards, but Seattle sucked. Hopefully I can relocate to Oregon > again someday. wow- me too- I lived across the Columbia in Vancouver Wash in 1995. That was the place of my first Linux experience, Slackware- still have my first ORA *nix books from Powell's Bookstore, the finest I've ever been to. Got some good advice from the Portland Linux Users Group in those days. I moved back to the rat race of my native Silly-Con Valley and I'm dying to get back to Portland metro myself. Nicest summer I spent in the midst of the Columbia River gorge area. _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at <A HREF="http://mail.yahoo.com"><A HREF="http://mail.yahoo.com</A">http://mail.yahoo.com</A</A>> - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[SuSE Linux] Netscape & Strong Encryption
by hlarons＠ComCAT.COM 06 Sep '98

06 Sep '98

Not too long ago there was a thread here on strong (128-bit) encryption and Netscape. The international version of Netscape distributed with SuSE must use only 40-bit session keys. Someone (sorry, I forget who) mentioned an app called Fortify to enhance Netscape's 40-bit routines. I need 128-bit encryption to access a financial site, and I hated the thought of d/l-ing a whole new Netscape dist. So, I tried Fortify 1.2.6 Bottom line: this is a fantastic app. It is simplicity itself to d/l from <A HREF="http://www.fortify.net"><A HREF="http://www.fortify.net</A">http://www.fortify.net</A</A>>, untar and install. It modifies the Netscape binary (and makes a backup) to build 128-bit routines (as well as triple-DES) right into Netscape, so the modified binary looks and behaves as if it were the US version. For those looking for a painless enhancement to the international Netscape distributed with SuSE, have a look at Fortify. BTW, I have no connection with the developers, I'm just a satisfied customer. Howard Arons -- Powered by SuSE Linux 5.2 -- kernel 2.0.33 Communications by Mutt 0.93.2 - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[SuSE Linux] X includes (where are they?)
by lsayre＠stratos.net 06 Sep '98

06 Sep '98

I tried to 'make configure' for KSCAN (a SANE front end for KDE), and the compile failed with the message (from memory here) "can't find X includes, check install configuration and add the correct path(s)". I'm using SuSE 5.2. Can someone help with this? ------------------------------------------- Man's mind is his basic tool of survival! Lawrence Sayre <lsayre(a)stratos.net> ------------------------------------------- - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[SuSE Linux] Configure Soundcard.
by mik.olsson＠goteborg.mail.telia.com 06 Sep '98

06 Sep '98

I have just installed SuSE 5.3 and i canŽt get my soundcard to work. How do i set up a soundcard? - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [SuSE Linux] Re: SuSE 5.3 not as nice as 5.2
by punt＠gte.net 06 Sep '98

06 Sep '98

-----Original Message----- From: Hubert Mantel <mantel(a)suse.de> To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com <suse-linux-e(a)suse.com> Date: Sunday, September 06, 1998 8:49 AM Subject: [SuSE Linux] Re: SuSE 5.3 not as nice as 5.2 >We need a machine that shows the problem in order to find the reason of >the failure. If you are willing to test some bootdisks, please send me a >short mail and I will be very happy to send you a test bootdisk (you don't >need to trash your existing installation, but only boot with the disk and >see if the cardmanager works). > No problem testing boot disks, just as long as I DONT have to redo the installation :). By the way the laptop was a DEC ULTRA VP model 575. Plan to update the IBM ThinkPad 600 and a NEC 6200MMX next week. We have two DEC's so testing bootdisks shouldn't be a problem. Funny thing is if I had 5.2 installed, then updated, after install pcmcia works fine. On the other machines we are running the pcmcia that we downloaded from the web (after we put the 2.0.35 kernel on 5.2, and rebuilt, the pcmica didn't get built when we did the modules. So we just downloaded the tar file and made it.). Let me know where I can ftp the boot disks or however. Punt. - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [SuSE Linux] Re: SuSE 5.3 not as nice as 5.2
by punt＠gte.net 06 Sep '98

06 Sep '98

-----Original Message----- From: Hubert Mantel <mantel(a)suse.de> To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com <suse-linux-e(a)suse.com> Date: Sunday, September 06, 1998 8:49 AM Subject: [SuSE Linux] Re: SuSE 5.3 not as nice as 5.2 > >> First the pcmcia module couldn't start the cardmanager as I started the >> install (the 5.2 does fine). > >This has been reported by two customers: Suddenly the PCMCIA hardware is >not detected anymore. Unfortunately we are unable to reproduce the problem >here. By the way, SuSE 5.1 had the same problem on a DEC Ultra VP model 575. The difference was after installation it still wouldn't work. Downloading and make the PCMCIA tar file (newer version) solved it. SuSE 5.2 worked out of the box. 5.3 fails. Can't say if it would have worked after install, since I did a 5.2 and then upgraded to 5.3 to get around it. PCMCIA working so I assumed it would have. - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[SuSE Linux] Installing SuSE, NT and Win98 in one machine - question
by D.Svozil＠plymouth.ac.uk 06 Sep '98

06 Sep '98

Hi folks, I plan to install SuSE, WinNT and Win98 at one machine. I do not have much experience with LLinux, so any advice would be appreciated. I have 6.5 GB HDD andI would like to have the following space for the systems: 3 GB NT 2 GB SuSE rest Win98. I have a lot questions: 1) How large swap partition to create (64 MB RAM). I've heard, that Linux, NT and Win98 can share one swap partition, is that right? How to manage that? 2) How to repartition HDD. Is it true, that Linux has to be gin underfirst 1024 cylinders? Should I create different partitions for root and the rest? how muchnspace for root partiotion? 3) How to proceed during instalation, what install first, how to repartition HDD, using Linux's fdisk? 4) How to choose which system to boot? To use lilo, NT Loader? I have also System Commander 4.0, which was highly recommended to me? Do you have any experience with it? And how to proceed with installing boot manager? Please, help me, i am a bit lost!!!! Thanks Dan --------------------------------------- Daniel Svozil Deparment of Environmental Sciences University of Plymouth Drake Circus Plymouth Devon PL4 8AA United Kingdom e-mail: dsvozil(a)plymouth.ac.uk Tel: ++44-(0)1752-23 31 28 Fax: ++44-(0)1752-23 30 35 - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[SuSE Linux] New to SuSE
by casmity＠alt.net 06 Sep '98

06 Sep '98

Hi, I subscribed to this list about 2 weeks ago because I was interested in SuSE and wanted to get a feel for it. What I read here was enough to peak my interest and so I decided to give SuSE a spin. I ordered one of those $1.99 cd's of SuSE 5.2 from www.cheapbytes.com and just got done installing that puppy. I'm impressed big time! : - ) As soon as I know that Border's is gonna be able to get SuSE 5.3 I'll be buying the "Official" release. Just thought I'd share that with you. Thanks, clif - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[SuSE Linux] Printer problems with 5.3
by darreld＠his.com 06 Sep '98

06 Sep '98

Hi all, I'm just configuring my system from my first Suse (5.3)installation after running RedHat for a year or so. I switched because there was a couple of products (here and coming) which I think would work better under Suse, and I must say I like the attitude of the Suse group here, but... I have run Linux for a while (yggdrasil, slackware, Redhat) and I gotta say the Suse installation/config is not a slam dunk. I'm having several issues that I'm working through. The manual is helpful but still... I currently am trying to get my Epson Stylus 600 to work. I choose 'stcolor' under YaST and it says all is well but all I get 1is or two garbage characters per page. Anybody got it going? I also can't compile WindowMaker either, but I'll tackle that one next. I LOVE WindowMaker and am stuck with KDE for now. Any help appreciated. -darrel -- =================================================== Darrel L. Davis darreld(a)his.com Linux - The choice of a Gnu generation =================================================== - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[SuSE Linux] Now I know...my $.02
by steve＠millsphoto.com 06 Sep '98

06 Sep '98

When I first found this mail group, I was about to receive my copy of 5.3. I wanted to see what was going on in the SuSE community since I had become deeply frustrated trying to gain aid from those in RedHat land. No offence to them as a whole, but some very rude individuals roam the newsgroups, ostensibly to help but really just lying in wait to flame inept newbies. I fit that definition to a couple, so I stopped asking any questions. I could see that RedHat 5.1 was broken and I wasn't in a mood to try and salvage it amid flame wars. I have enough experience in my past with chat to understand beyond need for reminding when to quit speaking publicly. Here, when I first received 5.3, I appeared to have been the first on this continent, quite literally. I simply placed my order before it was released. I don't know why some are still waiting. I was told it would come in the first week of Sept and it was here last Monday. Scott Winterton at SuSE was very helpful and kept me informed. I admit, however, that I probably bugged him until he sent it by overnight express, when they did. :) To the point, this group feels very comfortable. There is a wealth of experience here and compassion. I saw a couple of rude remarks about someone's leaving, but not from those who write daily. For me, Michael, your wisdom would have been sorely missed. Thanks for peering back inside. I don't know what everyone else thinks and I won't pretend to guess. My desire is to build a computer devoid of Gatesware, period. Linux looks like the best alternative to me, although I guess I could simply buy a Mac. I was brought kicking and screaming to this conclusion by my most recent experience with Microsoft IE40 and Outlook Express when I allowed what I thought was a benign upgrade of these two programs by the Microsoft website. Perhaps nobody cares, but if you have read this far Microsoft virtually turned my box into a Windows 98 lab rat with that maneuver. It does everything but splash the Win 98 logo. Now IE40, which used to be superb compared to NS (seriously, I think it is far better) is subject to the most bizarre faults and crashes. I won't go into it all here, this is not a forum. I just wanted to say that I really feel welcome in the SuSE arena. I feel they have the best concept of what a Linux user will want in their OS and you people (many more names than those that I have included) make it easy to continue trying. Even when I ask really stupid questions. Hope I haven't waxed too maudlin for you. Thank you all. Steve <A HREF="http://www.millsphoto.com"><A HREF="http://www.millsphoto.com</A">http://www.millsphoto.com</A</A>> - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[SuSE Linux] libpam.so.0, KDE, qt 4 & glibc 2
by hattons＠CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil 06 Sep '98

06 Sep '98

Ok, so I rebuilt a new system, followed the How-To on glibc 2 for a primary upgrade, compiled the new 2.0.35 kernel from S.u.S.E., fetched the i686.rpms for the KDE and QT 4 from: <A HREF="http://www.foyer.se/downloads/KDE/1.0/RPMS/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.foyer.se/downloads/KDE/1.0/RPMS/index.html</A">http://www.foyer.se/downloads/KDE/1.0/RPMS/index.html</A</A>> Now when I ldd kdm I get: nariana:/root # ldd /opt/kde/bin/kdm libkdecore.so.1 => /opt/kde/lib/libkdecore.so.1 (0x40000000) libqt.so.1 => /usr/lib/libqt.so.1 (0x400a5000) libXext.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6 (0x402c6000) libX11.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x402d1000) libpam.so.0 => not found libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x40370000) libpam_misc.so.0 => not found libcrypt.so.1 => /lib/libcrypt.so.1 (0x40375000) libutil.so.1 => /lib/libutil.so.1 (0x403a2000) libstdc++.so.2.8 => not found libm.so.6 => /lib/libm.so.6 (0x403a5000) libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x403be000) /lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x00000000) If I find / -name libpam*, I find nothing. I am confident that this is an "orderly" problem. That is, I still need some more libs somewher. Can someone point me in the right direction? TIA Steve - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [SuSE Linux] Sweet success...nearly
by kevcol＠yahoo.com 06 Sep '98

06 Sep '98

> Thank you everyone for the help today and yesterday. I am almost there and > wow...wvdial is fast. :) Indeed, it is.. Almost there.. keep hacking it- you'll get it! (Anticipating your successful connect!) _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at <A HREF="http://mail.yahoo.com"><A HREF="http://mail.yahoo.com</A">http://mail.yahoo.com</A</A>> - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[SuSE Linux] WindowMaker-0.19.1 install
by mlankton＠home.com 06 Sep '98

06 Sep '98

whoever it was (flushed my mail already) that had 0.19.1 bail on wrlib, the object it bails on uses jpeg, xpm, tiff, png, and libz. I bet if you were to build those libs from the source packages that come on your S.u.S.E. discs you would get a clean build. Don't ask me why, but I have had problems using the precompiled gfx libs before, and I have successfully built 0.19.1 on 5.3 and 5.2, so give that a try and let me know if it worked for you. -- .###. /#######\## -==============================================- ;##### ;# Mike's WindowMaker ;##### ;# <A HREF="http://tasteslikechicken.ml.org/windowmaker.html"><A HREF="http://tasteslikechicken.ml.org/windowmaker.html</A">http://tasteslikechicken.ml.org/windowmaker.html</A</A>> \# /## -==============================================- ###'---'#### - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[SuSE Linux] Sweet success...nearly
by steve＠millsphoto.com 06 Sep '98

06 Sep '98

At last, I can DIAL OUT with WVDial...I can log on...I can almost check my mail, then I get disconnected. But hey, I'm leaps and bounds beyond where I was. Avery Pennarun at WVDial was right...I had a conflict with IRQ 1 and 4. I was never aware that my mouse interrupts shared IRQ 4 with my modem. Very odd when my modem lists itself as being on IRQ 11 in Windows. Under Linux, they are (were) sharing 4. I have to type setserial /dev/ttyS2 irq 11 to make it work. That needs to be placed in my boot sequence. Can anyone tell me what file that is? I'm too tire to hunt it down right now. I still don't understand why I get disconnected within seconds, and I also want to learn how to keep the connection active during sessions, even if I shut down my mail program (XFMail). Thank you everyone for the help today and yesterday. I am almost there and wow...wvdial is fast. :) Steve <A HREF="http://www.millsphoto.com"><A HREF="http://www.millsphoto.com</A">http://www.millsphoto.com</A</A>> - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[SuSE Linux] FLOPPY BOOT DISK
by jclaude＠bow.intnet.mu 06 Sep '98

06 Sep '98

My floppy boot disk was corrupt. I managed to boot and create a new one (Prefer not to boot from HDU b'cause of Win98 and NTFS installed on the two other partitions). How can I create a spare boot disk (not sure I can restart the complicated process I did)? J C - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [SuSE Linux] PCMCIA troubles
by jwaalkes＠edge.net 06 Sep '98

06 Sep '98

---------- > From: Jon Hartwell <glacierdenali(a)yahoo.com> > To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com > Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] PCMCIA troubles > Date: Saturday, September 05, 1998 11:10 PM > > > Yah, I had the same problem with a Zenith notebook (Z-Star EX) when I > first tried to install SuSE. I finally got the problem resolved some > how. I will review the notes I took while installing and see if I can > help you get these slots up and working. > > Do you know type of PCMCIA you have (Cirrus, Intel, VLSI, etc.)? > > > No, I just checked the manual.pdf file and it has the internal (infernal?) IBM part #'s. I'll 'pop-the-top' later (now is not a good time :) and see. Thanks, I appreciate the help! John - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[SuSE Linux] A sound suggestion.
by hattons＠CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil 06 Sep '98

06 Sep '98

For folks who are having trouble with MIDE etc., which used to work under 5.2, may I suggest looking at the versions of source code for the respective devices and versions of S.u.S.E.. I'm certainly no expert on this, but if there was a source code change in the driver, it may work to simply backup the new source and copy the old in its place, recompile and see what happens. Another thing I am finding to be a blessing, which I only do because I haven't taken the time to get my NT loader setup to boot linux from the second HD is that I boot from floppy. Since I have an old kernel on the original boot disk, I can always boot with that and get back lost functionality. I just went through this with my NIC. Here are the steps I took. 1) compiled with the new Kernel and glibc2: System can't see the net 2) grabbed the old version of 3c59x.c and put it in the new source tree, mv 3c5x9.o 3c59x.o.35 and recompiled as before: System can't see the net 3) booted from old boot disk: System sees the net. 4) deleted the 3c59x.o.35 and restored the latest 3c59x.c that came with 2.0.35, recompiled: system sees the net. Ok, you say, but what did I change? Didn't I go back to where I started? Yep! Beats the heck out of me! I see this with computers all the time. I once had a boss who truly believed computers know when you were frustrated, and had fun at your expense. Perhaps he's not such a nut case after all. HTH, Steve - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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