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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: Re:
by mantel＠suse.de 03 Jul '98

03 Jul '98

Hi, On Thu, 2 Jul 1998, Avi Schwartz wrote: > You haven't mentioned which thinkpad you have but I know it is not the same > as mine (TP 701C) just because you mentioned you have a built-in floppy > drive (the 701 has an external one). > > With my laptop I am using an external CDROM drive connect via a PCMCIA > card. My CDROM is an EIDE CDROM. To install SuSE 5.2 on my laptop, I > inserted the CD into the CDROM drive and booted from the supplied install > floppy disk. I loaded the PCMCIA module and the CDROM was immediately > recognized. From this point on the installation was a breeze. Well, there are thinkpads that work and there are thinkpads that don't. Until now I was unable to see a pattern in which circumstances it works and in which it doesn't. The only way that has worked for _everybody_ so far is using loadlin.exe from DOS. The workaround I'm working on is to have a FreeDos kernel with enough functionality to allow running loadlin.exe (see my previous mail). > If your CDROM is also an EIDE one, I would recommend using this > installation method. If you CDROM is SCSI, it might get a bit more > complicated unless the module for you PCMCIA SCSI card can be found on the > installation disk. > > -- Avi Hubert - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Test Bootdisk for IBM thinkpad available
by mantel＠suse.de 03 Jul '98

03 Jul '98

Hi, On Thu, 2 Jul 1998, Edgar F. Hilton wrote: > Has anybody succeeded in getting SUSE5.2 to work with their Thinpad? Yes, some people have reported success. But many have reported the problem you have. The problem still is not solved. There are people that are able to install using a Debian kernel, some can use a RedHat kernel and others are able to use the S.u.S.E. kernel. I think all distributions make use of the so-called "Tecra"-Patch which solves the problem on some machines. The problem is in the A20 handling and cache coherency of these notebooks. It seems to be dependend on the size of the kernel, timing and many other things. There is currently no bootdisk that can reliably boot on every machine. One thing we could observe is the fact that all affected machines are able to boot using loadlin. Loadlin does the loading in another way (besides other things loadlin loads the kernel first and the initdisk.gz as second, so chances are really good the caches have been flushed). Of course we are not allowed to distribute a disk containing MS code. For this reason I created a new bootdisk that contains a FreeDos kernel that is capable of running loadlin.exe. I've just put a so-prepared bootdisk at ftp.suse.com:/pub/suse_update/suse52/disks/thinkpad. Please give the mirror some hours until it will be there. Then, please download this image and write it to a floppy (either under DOS using rawrite.exe or using "dd" under Linux) and try if the notebook boots from that disk. Please note that the booting is very slow, but I have feedback that it works on a thinkpad that would not boot with any other floppy (neither S.u.S.E. nor Debian nor RedHat). Please give it a try and report feedback directly to me. > Forget about XF86, or /dev/hda*. I am talking about bare minimum booting > off the installation floppies. > > I am having the problem that the machine simply WILL NOT BOOT with > SUSE5.2. I have not had any problems installing SUSE5.2 in any desktop > machines. The laptop has built in floppy drive, and a CDROM connected > via PCMCIA card (which for the sake of this email, assume that it is not > plugged in). Here is the problem: > > 1. I create floppies using rawrite.exe or dd using the images eide01, > eide02, or eide03 (I tried them all!) and the supplemental disk. > 2. I insert the boot floppy into the floppy drive. > 3. I turn on the machine. > 4. I get the splash screen: "Welcome to SUSE" > 5. I get the boot: prompt. > 6. After a few seconds, the machine begins the booting process, hanging > entirely two lines after the "boot:" prompt. > > This same floppy works wonders on my other desktops, but simply will not > work on the laptop!!! I have had the same problem using Debian > 1.3.1 on this machine. RedHat 4.2 boots and installs beautifully. Interesting combination. Most (but not all) machines are able to boot from the Debian disk... > I would ideally like to have SUSE5.2 running on this machine, so any > help that anybody can give would be GREATLY appreciated. > > Happy Linux'ing! > > -- Edgar Hubert - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Netscape, Lost colors on buttonsand icons...
by PABLO＠ag-trek.allgaeu.org 03 Jul '98

03 Jul '98

Hi! > > > Hello, > I recently installed a new matrox mellinium ][ and since have > noticed that I lost the colors of all the buttons and icons in Netscape. > I am not sure the card is at fault, the only thing I set different for > the x-server was 24 bit color instead of 16 bit. Well, I have a et6000 card, and had the same problem within 24 bit color. Now, I use 16 bit color. I used the netscape (4.04) from the suse cd 5.2. I have installed the 4.05 now, but I didn|t test it with 24 bpp ciao Pablo - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Lesstif
by cjtan＠acm.org 03 Jul '98

03 Jul '98

Anyone using Lesstif on S.u.S.E. 5.2? Also, is there any plans on including Lesstif in future versions of S.u.S.E. Linux? Regards, C. J. Tan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ C. J. Tan E-mail: cjtan(a)acm.org Telephone: 1-403-220-8038 cjtan(a)ieee.org 1-403-606-4257 URL: <A HREF="http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~tanc"><A HREF="http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~tanc</A">http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~tanc</A</A>> Facsimile: 1-403-284-1980 "An engineer made programmer is one who attempts to solve a problem, A programmer made engineer is one who knows how to solve a problem." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: GNOME
by A.Valentinyi＠soton.ac.uk 03 Jul '98

03 Jul '98

Hi, I could compile Gnome 0.20 on SuSE5.2. More precisely, there are a few programs I was not able to compile. But most of the programs work. Although, I could compile mico too, I used a precompiled rpm for libc5 I found on the discussion list because it takes ages to compile it. You may need to recompile some programs and libaries which shiped with SuSE. However, as far as I remember I had only to recompile guile-1.2 because the gnome-guile package did not work otherwise (and of course also gtk). Some programs crash by time to time, but the panel works just fine. Akos - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Arabic
by sodah＠qatar.net.qa 03 Jul '98

03 Jul '98

hi Does Linux support Arabiac fonts? how can i enable it on my Linux-box? bye -fadi - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Next rev on XFree86?
by kyle＠binary.net 03 Jul '98

03 Jul '98

At 03:19 PM 7/2/98 -0500, you wrote: > >It really isn't in the interest of the hardware manufacturers to write >drivers for an operating system that doesn't make them any money. If you >are unhappy with xfree there are always AccelX and MetroX. > You don't think that hardware manufacturers would make more money if they sold more of their product? When Matrox sell a card for an NT system, they aren't making money off the drivers they're making it off the hardware. This would also apply Linux (maybe even better since fewer companies actively support their hardware for Linux). Wouldn't you be inclined to purchase a video card that said something to the effect of 100% Linux Compatible on the box. With millions of people using Linux and more buying distributions everyday, I don't think thatthe cost of programming a driver for Linux would outweigh the potential gains made by selling more product. >On Thu, 2 Jul 1998, Steven T. Hatton wrote: > >> >> I am wondering what the future plans for XFree86 >> are. I have a few gripes about the current >> version. I am not able to go beyond 16bpp, and I >> had to manually edit the file to get the refresh >> rate above 60Hz. I am using a Matrox Millenium II >> with 8Meg. I also have a 21" monitor running at >> 1600 x 1200. I have also had some problems with >> my system and the M$ Intellimouse. For some >> reason the mouse caused the KDE to loose its >> backgounds. The mouse would also take off every >> once in a while and hide in a corner as if it had >> seen a cat. My mother board is an Asus with a >> PPro MMX 200. >> >> I wish I understood more about what goes on under >> the hood with this stuff. Is it reasonable for >> hardware manufacturers to write components for >> XFree86 that would support their products? I >> hesitate to call these 'drivers' because I'm not >> sure if that is the technically correct term. >> >> Steve > - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] [S.u.S.E Linux] KDE Question
by calamity＠wayward.net 03 Jul '98

03 Jul '98

Arun K. Khan wrote: > > At 08:58 PM 6/30/98 PDT, you wrote: > > > >I've tried to upgrade KDE (Beta 3) to the newest Beta 4 but it's giving > >me fits.. I've read somewhere in here that there is a certain order to > >install. I'm using YaST to do the upgrading. > >Thanks again.. > > I am relying on memory here :) I think some time back someone suggested > first to remove all the Beta 3 packages and then install the Beta 4 > package. As for the order it is documented in the KDE home page www.kde.org. > > HTH > Arun Khan > We found that we had to completely remove the beta 3 before installing the beta 4, or the whole thing blew up. -- Marie Bennington |Calamity's Kennel Home for Wayward Computers |Leader of the pack Quality German Shepherds |The REAL grand poobah calamity(a)wayward.net |Calamity on Palace ICQ 4983764 - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re:
by hongfeng＠public.wh.hb.cn 03 Jul '98

03 Jul '98

Hi, can anyone tell me if SuSE 5.2 can be installed and running on ThinkPad 560E? Best, Frederic Avi Schwartz ?????? > You haven't mentioned which thinkpad you have but I know it is not the same > as mine (TP 701C) just because you mentioned you have a built-in floppy > drive (the 701 has an external one). > > With my laptop I am using an external CDROM drive connect via a PCMCIA > card. My CDROM is an EIDE CDROM. To install SuSE 5.2 on my laptop, I > inserted the CD into the CDROM drive and booted from the supplied install > floppy disk. I loaded the PCMCIA module and the CDROM was immediately > recognized. From this point on the installation was a breeze. > > If your CDROM is also an EIDE one, I would recommend using this > installation method. If you CDROM is SCSI, it might get a bit more > complicated unless the module for you PCMCIA SCSI card can be found on the > installation disk. > > -- Avi > > At 01:54 7/3/98 +0800, you wrote: > > > >Hi, > > > >I think this message came to me in the most right time, as > >I planned to buy the ThinkPad to run SuSE 5.2 tomorrow, > >now I have to wait and see if anyone can give me the suggestions > >to this problem. Thanks, Edgar, you posted a very good question. > > > >Best, > >Frederic > > > >Edgar F. Hilton ?????? > > > >> comp.os.linux.answers, comp.os.linux.misc > >> Subject: Help! Thinkpad + SUSE5.2 Woes > >> > >> Hi! > >> > >> Has anybody succeeded in getting SUSE5.2 to work with their Thinpad? > >> Forget about XF86, or /dev/hda*. I am talking about bare minimum booting > >> off the installation floppies. > >> > >> I am having the problem that the machine simply WILL NOT BOOT with > >> SUSE5.2. I have not had any problems installing SUSE5.2 in any desktop > >> machines. The laptop has built in floppy drive, and a CDROM connected > >> via PCMCIA card (which for the sake of this email, assume that it is not > >> plugged in). Here is the problem: > >> > >> 1. I create floppies using rawrite.exe or dd using the images eide01, > >> eide02, or eide03 (I tried them all!) and the supplemental disk. > >> 2. I insert the boot floppy into the floppy drive. > >> 3. I turn on the machine. > >> 4. I get the splash screen: "Welcome to SUSE" > >> 5. I get the boot: prompt. > >> 6. After a few seconds, the machine begins the booting process, hanging > >> entirely two lines after the "boot:" prompt. > >> > >> This same floppy works wonders on my other desktops, but simply will not > >> work on the laptop!!! I have had the same problem using Debian > >> 1.3.1 on this machine. RedHat 4.2 boots and installs beautifully. > >> > >> I would ideally like to have SUSE5.2 running on this machine, so any > >> help that anybody can give would be GREATLY appreciated. > >> > >> Happy Linux'ing! > >> > >> -- Edgar > >> - > >> To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > >> this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > > > > > > >- > >To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > >this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > > -- > Avi Schwartz > avi(a)bitsmart.com > > Microsoft Outlook: Broken by Design... > - > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: GNOME
by hekate＠intergate.bc.ca 02 Jul '98

02 Jul '98

yeh, that's kind of what I thought. I'm thinking maybe patience is a virtue here. I really think what they are doing is awesome, and I prefer GNOME to KDE for a bunch of reasons that I won't go into as to avoid an old saw. I might just set aside some time and get to work on it, if I do I'll post what I find out if anyone's interested. P.S. as a bit of a digression, I just built E on my machine, and I was really impressed. This is for those who occasionally inquire about Window Managers. The SPEED of E has greatly improved... and it's moving quickly into a worthy direction. I actually am liking it even better than WindowMaker. This is from the latest snapshot. 2 cents. On Thu, 2 Jul 1998, Michael Lankton wrote: > Yes, it can be done, but gnome doesn't like libc5 much. Get ready to hack > a little, and make sure all of your gnu tools like automake and gettext > etc are the most recent. I would also get imlib 1.6 and make sure you > enable gtk when you compile mico. You will need a newer egcs or > gcc-2.8.x. I would recommend ecgs>=1.0.3a with or without the pgcc patch. > Good luck, > your chances are slim. > > ==================================================================== > Michael Lankton > <A HREF="http://tasteslikechicken.ml.org"><A HREF="http://tasteslikechicken.ml.org</A">http://tasteslikechicken.ml.org</A</A>> > ==================================================================== > On Thu, 2 Jul 1998 hekate(a)intergate.bc.ca wrote: > > > > > > > Has anyone tried compiling a Gnome snapshot on SuSE? I'm considering > > trying to put Gnome on my box. > > > - > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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