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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: Re: Fat32 patch
by mantel＠suse.de 30 Mar '98

30 Mar '98

Hi, On Fri, 27 Mar 1998, zentara wrote: > I don't want to get you upset, since you know all the answers.:-) > But that patch dosn't work, or else I'm way off in applying it. > > First it isn't named VFAT32, its called fat32_joliet_nls_patch-0.2.8. Yes, this is one of the things I dislike about this patch: It collects several things in one big patch. AFAIK there doesn't exist a VFAT32 patch alone. Meanwhile there's a version 0.2.9. I assume this patch will apply better against recent kernels. > And it apparently was for "linux-2.0.31-clean" ; cause it > won't work on "linux-2.0.33.pre.SuSE.3". I assume it will fail with a clean 2.0.33, too. We didn't change anything in the relevant parts of the kernel, so you probably need a newer version of the patch (<A HREF="http://www-plateau.cs.berkeley.edu/people/chaffee/fat32.html"><A HREF="http://www-plateau.cs.berkeley.edu/people/chaffee/fat32.html</A">http://www-plateau.cs.berkeley.edu/people/chaffee/fat32.html</A</A>>). > All it did was REMOVE the vfat option from the filesystems > menu in menuconfig. I think it's not a great deal to apply the rejects manually. But the new version of the patch explicitly states that it works with 2.0.33. > I don't use fat32 anyways, so it really dosn't matter--no complaints. > > But it would be nice to tell people that SuSe supports fat32, > and even Microsoft dosn't yet in NT. Sure this would be nice. Would save me lots of questions ;-) > I seem to remember it worked OK under Caldera, it didn't > seem buggy. "Didn't seem buggy" is not enough ;-) This kind of change is very critical, because existing filesystem code is modified. If we end up with corrupted filesystems we have a BIG problem. If the kernel is buggy, that's bad for us. If only a S.u.S.E. modified kernel is buggy whereas the official kernel works, it's much worse for us. Therefore we're waiting for the inclusion of this patch into the official kernel. 2.1.x has it already and the web page states it will be included in 2.0.34 (if it's ever released). > zentara Hubert -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Modem noise and xterm color
by rkeeley＠dibbs.net 30 Mar '98

30 Mar '98

For question #1. Try your modem manual. Or change your initilization code. In my Sportster modem, it is ATM0=speaker always off, ATM1=speaker on until Connect(what I use), M2=speaker always on, and M3=speaker on after dial, until Connect. I llike my modem to sound off at first, just to proves it works, then it goes silent. BTW way my modem is Hayes compatible, and these are their commands. Question #2: I will let the gurus answer, but you are on the right track, you just haven't read enuf yet! Santi wrote: > Two quick questions: > 1) How can I make the modem not to make noise when it dials? I know, I > should read the corresponding howto, but there is not a MODEM.HOWTO and > there's no information about it in 'man chat' or 'man ppp'. I don't > remember the comand in ATDTnumber for that. > 2) How can I change the colors for the xterm (background, for > instance). I use fvwm2, or, sometimes, KDE. In the .xinitrc I see color > for the title, but no for all the windows background. I've not been able > to find information about the options for xterm. > > Thanks in advance. > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e -- 73's Roy KC4IMC rkeeley(a)dibbs.net rkeeley(a)acan.net kc4imc(a)maf.wa4wbi.ampr.org Snail Mail = 10675 Salt Aire Rd, E., Theodore, AL 36582, USA APS #158954 - ARA #4750 - C&LS #162 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Sound Blaster AWE32
by svet＠alamo.satlug.org 30 Mar '98

30 Mar '98

Xanti, I have got both AWE 32 and the AWE 64 working on SuSE 5.1 and 5.2...Hmmm. I assume you have gotten the kernel module patch for AWE32 + support. Without it, the sound module will not support AWE 32 no matter how you set it. If you have included it, tell me what you've set for the configuration, since there are some options that need to be confirmed. Just let me know! Steven "Svet" Bird-Downum On Mon, 30 Mar 1998, Santi wrote: > > Anyone was able to have his or her SBAWE32 working? I've recompiled > the kernel putting the right IRQ and IO address and the midi programs > don't find the instruments. > Any help will be wellcome. Thanks. > > Xanti > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Sound Blaster AWE32
by zentara＠mindspring.com 30 Mar '98

30 Mar '98

Santi wrote: > > Anyone was able to have his or her SBAWE32 working? I've recompiled > the kernel putting the right IRQ and IO address and the midi programs > don't find the instruments. > Any help will be wellcome. Thanks. > > Hi, First, you must get the /etc/isapnp.conf set up right to use the awe32 soundfont bank. I have a copy of a usable isapnp.conf for the awe32. If you want I could e-mail it to you. Also: If you want to install the awe32, you must apply the awedriver patch that is on the cdrom, then recompile the kernel with sound as module. You must enable "low level driver support" and do a few other things as specified in the awedrv docs. OSS will interfere with it, don't try both. To get the soundfonts working, you must put a line "sfxload synthgm.sf2"; or a similar line in your /etc/boot.local. It can be done, but it ain't a cakewalk. :-) I also found that my awe32 gets set up nicely with the default Suse installation, but it didn't support the soundfonts. It was just setup as a regular soundblaster. zentara -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Win 32 & Linux
by zentara＠mindspring.com 30 Mar '98

30 Mar '98

Steven T. Hatton wrote: > > Is there any support in Linuxverse for Win32? I know many may ask 'why > I should care?' Well, I just think it would be cool to show this to my > MS-Borg boss, and say "look, Linux can do that too!" > No support for win32's, although the Wine (Windows Emulator) is working on it, and there is a version of it on the Suse cdrom. It works with alot of programs, but is still quite buggy; and cannot be relied on. BUT THEY'RE WORKING ON IT!!! :-) WABI is a windows 3.1 emulator that SUN developed to run on UNIX systems. It only runs in 256 colors, dosn't support sound, and is no longer being supported or developed by SUN. It runs really well under linux. The price has recently just dropped to 49 US dollars!!!!. It used to be 150. Everyone had high hopes that SUN would continue with it, and get WABI to run win32's ; but they figure there really isn't a demand for it. Most linux users quickly switch to pure linux apps, or they dual boot to win95 or NT. zentara -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Modem noise and xterm color
by chaos＠odn.de 30 Mar '98

30 Mar '98

HihO... > 2) How can I change the colors for the xterm (background, for > instance). I use fvwm2, or, sometimes, KDE. In the .xinitrc I see color > for the title, but no for all the windows background. I've not been able > to find information about the options for xterm. have a look at the file .fvwm2rc in your home directory (perhaps you have to create it first -> button Fvwm2... > konfiguration > create .fvwm2rc english or however the menue is titled in the neglish version...) in ~7.fvwm2rc youŽll find a option for the default colors of the frames and you have the entries for opening a xterm. there you can put your own options -fg foer foreground -bg for background... xterm -T hello -fg white -bg black will create a xterm with the title "hello" and white text on black ground... o far... -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Modem noise and xterm color
by srr03＠tid.es 30 Mar '98

30 Mar '98

Two quick questions: 1) How can I make the modem not to make noise when it dials? I know, I should read the corresponding howto, but there is not a MODEM.HOWTO and there's no information about it in 'man chat' or 'man ppp'. I don't remember the comand in ATDTnumber for that. 2) How can I change the colors for the xterm (background, for instance). I use fvwm2, or, sometimes, KDE. In the .xinitrc I see color for the title, but no for all the windows background. I've not been able to find information about the options for xterm. Thanks in advance. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Samba anyone?
by pbleser＠prov-liege.be 30 Mar '98

30 Mar '98

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0288_01BD5BEF.43716C20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well, I agree on most points... Another issue is that most company administratives (who most of the time = don't know that much about OS's) say "now we replace UNIX with NT !" - = "why ?" - "because it's MS and everybody has to have MS, and it's better = and this and that..." They don't know why, they just believe what Bill's telling'em... Instead of having capable UNIX administrators, and I mean _qualified_ = people, they put NT (and one of the very few advantages of NT is that is = _is_ easy to install and to administrate, because of the simple fact = that you are NOT allowed to modify a lot of parameters - compared to = UNIX & Linux, where you really can change ANYTHING, and customize your = system to your needs, as YOU wish, and not as MS wishes) on their = servers, they put NT on their workstations... and it crashes, it's = slower, it's more expensive in hardware and software (than Linux, that's = obvious - "but NT licenses are cheaper than Digital Unix !" you will = say... well, not exactly... have you already tried to get support from = MS ? it's very $$$$$$$$$$$... When you buy Digital Unix (for example... = we're working with this here, in this ....errm, highschool (I think = that's the right word... in Belgium it's "=E9cole sup=E9rieure" - like = University, but not as long ;-) ), you also buy the support, and you = don't have to pay extra... and also, you have a reliable product, which = NT obviously isn't. At this moment, I'm writing you this mail from a Windows NT Server (4.0) = host I'm working on (I'm making my end-of-study work on Oracle = Designer/2000)... and it CRASHES !! Sometimes 10x a day !!! Can you = believe that !? I'm sorry MS-lovers, but there is NO EXCUSE for that ! A hardware = problem ? Probably... but with NT, you have NO CHANCE to find out what's = wrong... Linux has logs & kernel panics, etc... and it never crashes = without a good (let's say "bad") reason... SaMBa is a very good product, although it is a little slower with the = default options than a NT server... There are rooms above the school, in the same building, and we have a = 70-host network (all students) with 2 NT 4.0 Servers and 2 Linux = servers... (one is underway, in fact) The working Linux Server is a i486DX2-66 with 32 megs of RAM and a = "Bigfoot" disk (that's bad... very slow)... we have S.u.S.E. Linux 5.0 = on it (I'll put 5.2 on it as soon as I have it) with kernel 2.0.33, = Apache 1.3b5 (the beta version), SaMBa (I'm going to install the latest = (1.9.18p4) on it tonight or tomorrow), DNS (named), DHCPd, ... ... and = it works fine! Samba really is a good peace of software, and it *is* easy to = administrate (although many people have trouble with it), I think... Pascal it's Kriek time !! pfeew... did I really write all this ? no more damn' "sorry for my = english"-stuff... "my English is great !!!", isn't it ? ;-) What's the difference between Windows 95 and a virus ? A virus _works_... -----Original Message----- From: Steven T. Hatton <hattons(a)CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil> To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com <suse-linux-e(a)suse.com> Date: lundi 30 mars 1998 14:59 Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Samba anyone? =20 =20 Pascal,=20 My points are these:=20 =20 I work in a DoD shop that does all of its networking with Lanman. = Currently, if you want to play Lanman, you buy Microsoft. Microsoft's = architecture is proprietary. Microsoft is doing everything they can to = whipe out any and all competition, except for that token competition = that can be used for defense in antitrust law suits. They don't share = thier protocols.=20 =20 NT is restrictive in many ways. It *is easy to work with, and has = some very impressive features. Nonetheless, I am finding that I like = UNIX more than NT. One can simply do more with UNIX/Linux. One of the = problems with UNIX is that it is harder to use than NT. This is = changing. (That is material for another thread though.)=20 =20 NT is growing fast. I remember when a CNE was the thing to be. Now = it is MCSE. I firmly believe that UNIX can do what NT can do, only = better. If this can be accomplished, NT will be only one of many = solutions. One will learn a conceptual framework rather than a product = line. If I know Unix I can move between Linux, HP-UX, Solaris, etc.=20 =20 I also wanted to plug the book. I like it.=20 =20 My reasons for posting here were to find out who knows what, and to = let people know about someting I find interesting. I figure, if I am = going to be using suse, I should try to strengthen the user base by = sharing what little bit I find valuable. Samba may prove to be a total = wash. Something tells me this is not the case.=20 =20 =20 Pascal Bleser wrote:=20 =20 Well, it's an interesting mail, but what's the point ? ;-)I have = some experience with Samba, and I've already helped out some people on = mailing-lists (even some french people who put their smb.conf on the = Win95 hosts 8^D !??!?), so if I can help you out with this, don't = hesitate (pbleser(a)prov-liege.be)... although I have to say, that I = didn't try out a lot with that PAM stuff... Pascal=20 -----Original Message-----=20 From: Steven T. Hatton <hattons(a)CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil>=20 To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com <suse-linux-e(a)suse.com>=20 Date: lundi 30 mars 1998 06:24=20 Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Samba anyone?I am currently = reading up on Samba. If you don't know, Samba is a way to make your = WinDos-NT system think your Linux/UNIX box is one of them. I have not = seen any evidence yet of Samba being able to fully implement the NT SAM. = I have seen a glimmer of hope that the Samba Team may try to implement = an alternative, and perhaps NT compatible, solution using LDAP. Since I = am slowly becoming something of an expert in LDAP, this would really = make me happy. I also think it would make for a much more powerful and = versatile service than WINS/Browsing/SAM.=20 I have a friend who works in a biological research lab with = a limited budget who needs to support Lanman browsing across subnets. = Samba could be used with Linux to effect this at a very low cost.=20 =20 I guess if I wish to say much more about Samba, I should say = that on the Samba mailing list. I'll just leave y'all with a plug for = John D. Blair's new book *Samba, Integrating Unix and Windows*. It is = well written and informative.=20 =20 --=20 "Alles Vergaengliche Ist nur ein Gleichniss" -Goethe, as quoted in Ludwig Boltzmann's Vorlessungen ueber Gastheorie. =20 =20 --=20 "Alles Vergaengliche Ist nur ein Gleichniss" -Goethe, as quoted in Ludwig Boltzmann's Vorlessungen ueber Gastheorie. =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0288_01BD5BEF.43716C20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD> <META content=3Dtext/html;charset=3Diso-8859-1 = http-equiv=3DContent-Type> <META content=3D'"MSHTML 4.71.1712.3"' name=3DGENERATOR> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#d2d2d2> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Well, I agree on most = points...</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT><FONT size=3D2>Another issue = is that most=20 company administratives (who most of the time don't know that much about = OS's)=20 say "now we replace UNIX with NT !" - "why ?" -=20 "because it's MS and everybody has to have MS, and it's better and = this and=20 that..."</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>They don't know why, they just believe what Bill's=20 telling'em...</FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Instead of having capable UNIX administrators, and I = mean=20 _qualified_ people, they put NT (and one of the very few advantages of = NT is=20 that is _is_ easy to install and to administrate, because of the simple = fact=20 that you are NOT allowed to modify a lot of parameters - compared to = UNIX &=20 Linux, where you really can change ANYTHING, and customize your system = to your=20 needs, as YOU wish, and not as MS wishes) on their servers, they put NT = on their=20 workstations... and it crashes, it's slower, it's more expensive in = hardware and=20 software (than Linux, that's obvious - "but NT licenses are cheaper = than=20 Digital Unix !" you will say... well, not exactly... have you = already tried=20 to get support from MS ? it's very $$$$$$$$$$$... When you buy Digital = Unix (for=20 example... we're working with this here, in this ....errm, highschool (I = think=20 that's the right word... in Belgium it's "école=20 supérieure" - like University, but not as long ;-) ), = you also=20 buy the support, and you don't have to pay extra... and also, you have a = reliable product, which NT obviously isn't.</FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>At this moment, I'm writing you this mail from a = Windows NT=20 Server (4.0) host I'm working on (I'm making my end-of-study work on = Oracle=20 Designer/2000)... and it CRASHES !! Sometimes 10x a day !!! Can you = believe that=20 !?</FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>I'm sorry MS-lovers, but there is NO EXCUSE for that = ! A=20 hardware problem ? Probably... but with NT, you have NO CHANCE to find = out=20 what's wrong... Linux has logs & kernel panics, etc... and it never = crashes=20 without a good (let's say "bad") reason...</FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>SaMBa is a very good product, although it is a = little slower=20 with the default options than a NT server...</FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>There are = rooms above the=20 school, in the same building, and we have a 70-host network (all = students) with=20 2 NT 4.0 Servers and 2 Linux servers... (one is underway, in = fact)</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT><FONT size=3D2>The working = Linux Server is=20 a i486DX2-66 with 32 megs of RAM and a "Bigfoot" disk (that's = bad...=20 very slow)... we have S.u.S.E. Linux 5.0 on it (I'll put 5.2 on it as = soon as I=20 have it) with kernel 2.0.33, Apache 1.3b5 (the beta version), SaMBa (I'm = going=20 to install the latest (1.9.18p4) on it tonight or tomorrow), DNS = (named), DHCPd,=20 ... ... and it works fine!</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Samba really is a good peace of software, and it = *is* easy to=20 administrate (although many people have trouble with it), I=20 think...</FONT> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Pascal</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>it's Kriek time !!</FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>pfeew... did I really write all this ? no more damn' = "sorry for my english"-stuff... "my English is great = !!!",=20 isn't it ? ;-)</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>What's the difference between = Windows 95 and a=20 virus ?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT><FONT size=3D2>A virus=20 _works_...</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 solid 2px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-LEFT: = 5px"> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><B>-----Original = Message-----</B><B>From:=20 </B>Steven T. Hatton <<A=20 = href=3D"mailto:hattons@CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil">hattons(a)CPKWEBSER5.ncr.di= sa.mil</A>><B>To:=20 </B><A = href=3D"mailto:suse-linux-e@suse.com">suse-linux-e(a)suse.com</A> <<A=20 = href=3D"mailto:suse-linux-e@suse.com">suse-linux-e(a)suse.com</A>><B= >Date:=20 </B>lundi 30 mars 1998 14:59<B>Subject: </B>Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] = Samba=20 anyone?<BR></DIV></FONT>Pascal,=20 My points are these:=20 I work in a DoD shop that does all of its networking with = Lanman. =20 Currently, if you want to play Lanman, you buy Microsoft. = Microsoft's=20 architecture is proprietary. Microsoft is doing everything = they can to=20 whipe out any and all competition, except for that token competition = that=20 can be used for defense in antitrust law suits. They don't = share thier=20 protocols.=20 NT is restrictive in many ways. It *is easy to work with, = and has=20 some very impressive features. Nonetheless, I am finding that = I like=20 UNIX more than NT. One can simply do more with = UNIX/Linux. One=20 of the problems with UNIX is that it is harder to use than = NT. =20 This is changing. (That is material for another thread = though.)=20 NT is growing fast. I remember when a CNE was the thing to=20 be. Now it is MCSE. I firmly believe that UNIX can do = what NT=20 can do, only better. If this can be accomplished, NT will be = only one=20 of many solutions. One will learn a conceptual framework = rather than a=20 product line. If I know Unix I can move between Linux, HP-UX, = Solaris,=20 etc.=20 I also wanted to plug the book. I like it.=20 My reasons for posting here were to find out who knows what, and = to let=20 people know about someting I find interesting. I figure, if I = am going=20 to be using suse, I should try to strengthen the user base by = sharing what=20 little bit I find valuable. Samba may prove to be a total = wash. =20 Something tells me this is not the case. =20 Pascal Bleser wrote:=20 <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE =3D CITE> <FONT size=3D-1><FONT = color=3D#000000>Well,=20 it's an interesting mail, but what's the point ? ;-)</FONT>I = have some=20 experience with Samba, and I've already helped out some people = on=20 mailing-lists (even some french people who put their smb.conf on = the=20 Win95 hosts 8^D !??!?), so if I can help you out with this, = don't=20 hesitate (pbleser(a)prov-liege.be)... although I have to say, that = I=20 didn't try out a lot with that PAM stuff...</FONT> <FONT=20 size=3D-1>Pascal</FONT>=20 <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 solid 2px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = PADDING-LEFT: 5px"><B><FONT=20 face=3DArial><FONT size=3D-1>-----Original=20 Message-----</FONT></FONT></B> <FONT face=3DArial><FONT=20 size=3D-1><B>From: </B>Steven T. Hatton <<A=20 = href=3D"mailto:hattons@CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil">hattons(a)CPKWEBSER5.ncr.di= sa.mil</A>></FONT></FONT>=20 <FONT face=3DArial><FONT size=3D-1><B>To: </B><A=20 = href=3D"mailto:suse-linux-e@suse.com">suse-linux-e(a)suse.com</A> <<A=20 = href=3D"mailto:suse-linux-e@suse.com">suse-linux-e(a)suse.com</A>></FONT= ></FONT>=20 <FONT face=3DArial><FONT size=3D-1><B>Date: </B>lundi 30 = mars 1998=20 06:24</FONT></FONT> <FONT face=3DArial><FONT = size=3D-1><B>Subject:=20 </B>[S.u.S.E. Linux] Samba anyone?</FONT></FONT>I am = currently=20 reading up on Samba. If you don't know, Samba is a way = to make=20 your WinDos-NT system think your Linux/UNIX box is one of=20 them. I have not seen any evidence yet of Samba being = able to=20 fully implement the NT SAM. I have seen a glimmer of = hope that=20 the Samba Team may try to implement an alternative, and = perhaps NT=20 compatible, solution using LDAP. Since I am slowly = becoming=20 something of an expert in LDAP, this would really make me=20 happy. I also think it would make for a much more = powerful and=20 versatile service than WINS/Browsing/SAM.=20 I have a friend who works in a biological research lab = with a=20 limited budget who needs to support Lanman browsing across=20 subnets. Samba could be used with Linux to effect this = at a=20 very low cost.=20 I guess if I wish to say much more about Samba, I should = say that=20 on the Samba mailing list. I'll just leave y'all with = a plug=20 for John D. Blair's new book *Samba, Integrating Unix and=20 Windows*. It is well written and informative. = -- "Alles Vergaengliche Ist nur ein Gleichniss" -Goethe, as quoted in Ludwig Boltzmann's Vorlessungen ueber = Gastheorie. </BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE> =20 -- "Alles Vergaengliche Ist nur ein Gleichniss" -Goethe, as quoted in Ludwig Boltzmann's Vorlessungen ueber = Gastheorie. =20 </BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_0288_01BD5BEF.43716C20-- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Samba anyone?
by hattons＠CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil 30 Mar '98

30 Mar '98

--------------085A3901618F78E5EF354FB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Pascal, My points are these: I work in a DoD shop that does all of its networking with Lanman. Currently, if you want to play Lanman, you buy Microsoft. Microsoft's architecture is proprietary. Microsoft is doing everything they can to whipe out any and all competition, except for that token competition that can be used for defense in antitrust law suits. They don't share thier protocols. NT is restrictive in many ways. It *is easy to work with, and has some very impressive features. Nonetheless, I am finding that I like UNIX more than NT. One can simply do more with UNIX/Linux. One of the problems with UNIX is that it is harder to use than NT. This is changing. (That is material for another thread though.) NT is growing fast. I remember when a CNE was the thing to be. Now it is MCSE. I firmly believe that UNIX can do what NT can do, only better. If this can be accomplished, NT will be only one of many solutions. One will learn a conceptual framework rather than a product line. If I know Unix I can move between Linux, HP-UX, Solaris, etc. I also wanted to plug the book. I like it. My reasons for posting here were to find out who knows what, and to let people know about someting I find interesting. I figure, if I am going to be using suse, I should try to strengthen the user base by sharing what little bit I find valuable. Samba may prove to be a total wash. Something tells me this is not the case. Pascal Bleser wrote: > Well, it's an interesting mail, but what's the point ? ;-)I have some > experience with Samba, and I've already helped out some people on > mailing-lists (even some french people who put their smb.conf on the > Win95 hosts 8^D !??!?), so if I can help you out with this, don't > hesitate (pbleser(a)prov-liege.be)... although I have to say, that I > didn't try out a lot with that PAM stuff... Pascal > > -----Original Message----- > From: Steven T. Hatton <hattons(a)CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil> > To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com <suse-linux-e(a)suse.com> > Date: lundi 30 mars 1998 06:24 > Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Samba anyone?I am currently > reading up on Samba. If you don't know, Samba is a way to > make your WinDos-NT system think your Linux/UNIX box is one > of them. I have not seen any evidence yet of Samba being > able to fully implement the NT SAM. I have seen a glimmer > of hope that the Samba Team may try to implement an > alternative, and perhaps NT compatible, solution using > LDAP. Since I am slowly becoming something of an expert in > LDAP, this would really make me happy. I also think it > would make for a much more powerful and versatile service > than WINS/Browsing/SAM. > > I have a friend who works in a biological research lab with > a limited budget who needs to support Lanman browsing across > subnets. Samba could be used with Linux to effect this at a > very low cost. > > I guess if I wish to say much more about Samba, I should say > that on the Samba mailing list. I'll just leave y'all with > a plug for John D. Blair's new book *Samba, Integrating Unix > and Windows*. It is well written and informative. > > -- > "Alles Vergaengliche > Ist nur ein Gleichniss" > -Goethe, as quoted in Ludwig Boltzmann's Vorlessungen ueber Gastheorie. > > > -- "Alles Vergaengliche Ist nur ein Gleichniss" -Goethe, as quoted in Ludwig Boltzmann's Vorlessungen ueber Gastheorie. --------------085A3901618F78E5EF354FB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML> <BODY BGCOLOR="#D2D2D2"> Pascal, My points are these: I work in a DoD shop that does all of its networking with Lanman. Currently, if you want to play Lanman, you buy Microsoft. Microsoft's architecture is proprietary. Microsoft is doing everything they can to whipe out any and all competition, except for that token competition that can be used for defense in antitrust law suits. They don't share thier protocols. NT is restrictive in many ways. It *is easy to work with, and has some very impressive features. Nonetheless, I am finding that I like UNIX more than NT. One can simply do more with UNIX/Linux. One of the problems with UNIX is that it is harder to use than NT. This is changing. (That is material for another thread though.) NT is growing fast. I remember when a CNE was the thing to be. Now it is MCSE. I firmly believe that UNIX can do what NT can do, only better. If this can be accomplished, NT will be only one of many solutions. One will learn a conceptual framework rather than a product line. If I know Unix I can move between Linux, HP-UX, Solaris, etc. I also wanted to plug the book. I like it. My reasons for posting here were to find out who knows what, and to let people know about someting I find interesting. I figure, if I am going to be using suse, I should try to strengthen the user base by sharing what little bit I find valuable. Samba may prove to be a total wash. Something tells me this is not the case. Pascal Bleser wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE> <FONT SIZE=-1><FONT COLOR="#000000">Well, it's an interesting mail, but what's the point ? ;-)</FONT>I have some experience with Samba, and I've already helped out some people on mailing-lists (even some french people who put their smb.conf on the Win95 hosts 8^D !??!?), so if I can help you out with this, don't hesitate (pbleser(a)prov-liege.be)... although I have to say, that I didn't try out a lot with that PAM stuff...</FONT> <FONT SIZE=-1>Pascal</FONT> <BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: #000000 solid 2px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"><B><FONT FACE="Arial"><FONT SIZE=-1>-----Original Message-----</FONT></FONT></B> <FONT FACE="Arial"><FONT SIZE=-1><B>From: </B>Steven T. Hatton <mailto:hattons@CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil">hattons(a)CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil</A>></FONT></FONT> <FONT FACE="Arial"><FONT SIZE=-1><B>To: </B>mailto:suse-linux-e@suse.com">suse-linux-e(a)suse.com</A> <mailto:suse-linux-e@suse.com">suse-linux-e(a)suse.com</A>></FONT></FONT> <FONT FACE="Arial"><FONT SIZE=-1><B>Date: </B>lundi 30 mars 1998 06:24</FONT></FONT> <FONT FACE="Arial"><FONT SIZE=-1><B>Subject: </B>[S.u.S.E. Linux] Samba anyone?</FONT></FONT>I am currently reading up on Samba. If you don't know, Samba is a way to make your WinDos-NT system think your Linux/UNIX box is one of them. I have not seen any evidence yet of Samba being able to fully implement the NT SAM. I have seen a glimmer of hope that the Samba Team may try to implement an alternative, and perhaps NT compatible, solution using LDAP. Since I am slowly becoming something of an expert in LDAP, this would really make me happy. I also think it would make for a much more powerful and versatile service than WINS/Browsing/SAM. I have a friend who works in a biological research lab with a limited budget who needs to support Lanman browsing across subnets. Samba could be used with Linux to effect this at a very low cost. I guess if I wish to say much more about Samba, I should say that on the Samba mailing list. I'll just leave y'all with a plug for John D. Blair's new book *Samba, Integrating Unix and Windows*. It is well written and informative. -- "Alles Vergaengliche Ist nur ein Gleichniss" -Goethe, as quoted in Ludwig Boltzmann's Vorlessungen ueber Gastheorie. </BLOCKQUOTE> </BLOCKQUOTE> -- "Alles Vergaengliche Ist nur ein Gleichniss" -Goethe, as quoted in Ludwig Boltzmann's Vorlessungen ueber Gastheorie. </BODY> </HTML> --------------085A3901618F78E5EF354FB0-- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] suse 5.1/ppp
by adcarlso＠visinet.ca 30 Mar '98

30 Mar '98

I would be very interested in this PPP script that handles more than one provider (two, or more). Thanks, Arlen On 27-Mar-98 Leon McClatchey wrote: > >Michael Galloway wrote: > >> good day all ... >> >> i'm making some progess getting my modem and ppp up and running. >> using, xisp, i can make the modem dial and negotiate with my >> isp server. however, when xisp brings up the terminal window, >> after a few seconds the i get a 'No Carrier' error. i'm sure i'm >> missing something simple. i did compile a new kernel with ppp support >> (dmesg reports PPP version 2.2.0 and PPP line discipline registered) >> so at least i've made some progress. >> >> any help would be apprciated. >> >> -- >> -- michael >> -- >> To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with >> this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > If your using ppp, perhaps chat would be a better script to work with >your modem. Using chat I had no problem getting ppp up and running >(once I got the other configurations correct). I did find that I had to >up the TIMEOUT from 45 to 60. BTW, you can find some sample ppp >scripts in the installation at "/usr/doc/inetcfg/ppp" and the easiest >thing to do is to adapt them scripts to your system. > >If you are interested, I can send you the ppp-dial script that I have >adapted to my system. It handles two providers and 5 users with no >problem, but then it is not the dialer script that does that:-) > >cya l8r >Leon McClatchey >leonmcclatchey(a)homemail.com > > > >-- >To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with >this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e ---------------------------------- Arlen Carlson adcarlso(a)visinet.ca Just about every computer on the market today runs Unix, except the Mac (and nobody cares about it). -- Bill Joy 6/21/85 This message was sent by XFmail (Linux) ---------------------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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