February 1998 - openSUSE Users - openSUSE Mailing Lists

Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] help: cdrom writer for Linux
by jbrand＠willy.wsc.edu 22 Feb '98

22 Feb '98

the scsi plextor 2x4 it a great drive in linux, and it supports disk at once writing (granted... cdrecord and cdwrite do not yet:) check out <A HREF="http://www.plextor.com/"><A HREF="http://www.plextor.com/</A">http://www.plextor.com/</A</A>> i then bought mine at <A HREF="http://www.necx.com/"><A HREF="http://www.necx.com/</A">http://www.necx.com/</A</A>> On Sat, 21 Feb 1998, Scott Gray wrote: > > Hi, > > Would someone please recommend an inexpensive cdrom writer for Linux. > > Thanks, :-) > > ---------------------------------- > E-Mail: Scott Gray <1sgray(a)preferred.com> > Date: 21-Feb-98 > Time: 15:57:29 > > We work in the dark > We do what we can > We give what we have > Our doubt is our passion, and our passion is our task > The rest is the madness of art. > > > -- Henry James > ---------------------------------- > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > ...................................................................... There isn't any reason why Linux can't be implemented as an enterprise computing solution. Find out what you've been missing while you've been rebooting Windows NT. -- Eric Hammond -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] IDE in SB AWE 32 PnP
by jbrand＠willy.wsc.edu 22 Feb '98

22 Feb '98

Hi, the ide interface on soundblasters is (almost) like any other. the first thing is to make sure it is enabled in the first place, use the jumpers or the pnp software from <A HREF="http://www.creaf.com/"><A HREF="http://www.creaf.com/</A">http://www.creaf.com/</A</A>> then you want to set the card to irq 15, not 14 (secondary ide). if it is a pnp card, linux may have a problem, unles linux can see the ide interface at boot up. if you do have to use the isapnp tools to turn it on, then you may not be able to do it. Any one else have a SB64? this is from my experiance with soundblasters. the older cards with jumpers are much nicer. On Sat, 21 Feb 1998, [iso-8859-1] José Valerdi Tormo wrote: > Hello, I try configure in Linux the IDE interface of my SB AWE 32 PnP. Anybody knows which driver I have to use it or how I can configure it. > > Thanks. > ...................................................................... There isn't any reason why Linux can't be implemented as an enterprise computing solution. Find out what you've been missing while you've been rebooting Windows NT. -- Eric Hammond -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[wtopa@ix.netcom.com: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Installer Problems]
by wtopa＠ix.netcom.com 22 Feb '98

22 Feb '98

Tom Sorry about the forward but Sendmail on SuSE quit working for some, as of yet, unknown reason. Back on Slackware for now. Wayne -----Forwarded message from Wayne Topa <wtopa(a)ix.netcom.com>----- Message-ID: <19980202214840.14575(a)ix.netcom.com> Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 21:48:40 -0500 From: Wayne Topa <wtopa(a)ix.netcom.com> To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Installer Problems References: <34D63A2C.B767E6CE(a)fastrans.net> <34D64AF3.BCF12EFF(a)suse.de> <34D6652A.1E58EA88(a)fastrans.net> <34D67CB8.F1FEAE1(a)suse.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89 In-Reply-To: <34D67CB8.F1FEAE1(a)suse.de>; from Bodo Bauer on Mon, Feb 02, 1998 at 06:11:04PM -0800 Tom I agree the the install of SuSE isn't a bit like Slackware or the others but: Even tho the book is a bit confusing, it does work. You just have to expirment a bit. I loaded up a BIG installation 1st and ran out of HD space ( Over 1 Gig!) so backed off, started again & installed from scratch again. Some things fell into line after I had done it a couple of times. Do I understand why some things are done as they are, no. Do I care, YES. But, even if a newbie would have trouble, you seem to have done enough other installations that it will soon come to you. Bottom line, I prefer Slackware, as I don't like Installation managers that say they do it all, and don't. SuSE isn't perfect, yet, but im my mind I would do this again over RedHat 5 times to sunday. I have only been using this for a week and I like the challenge more on this distribution then on any of the others. It took me less time to make SuSE work (somewhat) than I spent on RedHat or Debian. I'll take the good with the bad and stay plugging away st SuSE. The support is better then I ever saw from redhat and this list has as much information as the Debian list. Stay cool and keep at it. German engineering has always been good and I think that SuSE Linux may just prove that the Software guys over there Know what they are doing. Let me know if I can be of any assistance. Wayne Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Installer Problems Date: Mon, Feb 02, 1998 at 06:11:04PM -0800 In reply to:Bodo Bauer Quoting Bodo Bauer (bb(a)suse.de) > > Tom Schaefer wrote: > > Yes, but the messages are meaningless and are not informative as to > > finish time, etc.The installer should not allow the user to anything > > which would jeopardize the install. > > Nothing happends if you reboot, only the scripts are starting again. > It won't mess up your system. > > > > > However, by probing around, I see the Yast installer is > > > unpacking > > > > > > MAN pages and all sorts of other stuff, unbeknownst to the user. > > > > > > > You need to alert the installer that something else is > > > happening. > > > > > > It's generating a locate DB, a apropos DB, doublechecks the > > > permissions, etc. > > > > > > > It shouldn't do the locate db stuff unless the user wants to. It > > adds quite a bit of time to wait for it to finish. > > But this doesn't hurt anybody. You can use the system during the > scripts are running, that's why we put them in the background. > > > > > I have noticed that if you reboot too soon, Yast appears to be > > > activated > > > > at boot up to either finish or do MORE stuff, which is not > > > properly > > > > explained. So I never really know if everything has been > > > installed > > > > properly. > > > > > > If you install the system the very first time, you can't switch > > > the > > > CDs because your root filestystem is on CD1. > > > > THEN EXPLAIN THIS DURING THE INSTALL. > > YaST brings up a message, what else do you want? 100 of pages that > explain what is done exactly? Noone would read this (exept you...). > > > > That's why yast is > > > started right after rebooting the system. It should now complete > > > the > > > installation and ask you for CD2 and or CD3 to get the missing > > > packages > > > installed. > > > > > > > NO IT DOES NOT ... Once you reboot the system, the installer may > > start, but there is nothing prompting me to insert Cd2, and since > > that is not explained - why would I be inserting CD2 or 3 after a > > reboot? SIMPLIFY! > > You are the first person I heard of who had this trouble. It seems it > is simple enough for anybody else. Am I wrong? > > > You can reboot and just use the machine how you see fit after the > > first reboot. Nothing is being explained on the console directly to > > the installer (user) that you are going to need CD 2 or 3. NEVER. > > > > What you fail to understand, that anyone that has previously used > > Solaris, Caldera, Slackware, or even Red Hat - you don't reboot the > > machine to finish the install. All packages are extracted, THEN the > > machine is configured and THEN you do a reboot. > > It's the same with our distribution. Perhaps this is the mistake you > made. When YaST is finished the first time the installation procedure > is going back to initrc. Then the installed system will be bootet. You > can say the installation is made 'during the boot'. > > > If you've mounted CD 1 as a filesystem, then you can UNMOUNT IT for > > CD 2 and 3. > > During the very first installation you can't unmount it, becouse it > is used as root-filesystem. When the installed system runs, switching > CDs is not a problem. > > > You are overfamiliar with your installer. SIMPLIFY > > SIMPLIFY SIMPLIFY > > > > Watch someone who has NEVER installed from your distribution. And > > don't coach them along the way. > > > > You'll see what I mean. > > I did, it worked... > > > > Then Yast starts some scripts like told above. If these scripts > > > don't > > > get enough time to finish (because of a reboot) the procedure > > > starts > > > again... > > > > > > > YES BUT THIS IS NOT EXPLAINED. The first time I installed your 5.0, > > I wrongly assumed the install was finished when in fact it was still > > completing as explained before. > > It is explained in the message you get before the scripts are > startet. > > Ciao, > BB > > PS: Please dont SHOUT, I have no problem reading small caps.... -- Windows95 (noun): 32 bit extensions and a graphical shell for a 16 bit patch to an 8 bit operating system originally coded for a 4 bit microprocessor, written by a 2 bit company, that can't stand 1 bit of competition. -----End of forwarded message----- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Nubie Yast Question:
by fpawlak＠execpc.com 22 Feb '98

22 Feb '98

On Feb 21, 9:16pm, Chris Herrnberger wrote: > Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Nubie Yast Question: > > Sorry for this question, but Im trying to learn the operation of Yast. > Example: > > Say I download a program in rpm format (eg: KDE beta 3.1)and download it > to a directory in /root/download. Can I use Yast to install and > configure the program and if so how? Or must this be undertaken by hand? Start YAST and go to the package install screen. Point YAST to the directory where the new packages are located and do a package install. > Currently I have installed several programs, netscape 3.0.4, > Communicator 4.0.4, ezppp and StarOffice4.0. However all of these > programs have been installed by hand so to speak with help from on line > doumentation. Was wondering if Yast can be used to undertake this > process instead. This is a stand alone system, running SuSE 5.1 I don't believe that YAST would be of service with these, at least I have installed them that same way that you have, which doesn't necessarily imply that I am correct. Cheers, Frank > TIA > > ch > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e >-- End of excerpt from Chris Herrnberger -- "At no time is freedom of speech more precious than when a man hits his thumb with a hammer" -- Marshall Lumsden -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Accel X4.0
by fpawlak＠execpc.com 22 Feb '98

22 Feb '98

On Feb 21, 2:30pm, rknebel(a)csrlink.net wrote: > Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Accel X4.0 > > Hi, > I just stated using suse and cannot get my Accel X4.0 to install off of my > cdrom. > Whenever I type ./Install I get permission denied. I even tried putting an > sh in front of it. > Anyone using Accel 4.0 on suse 5.1? > Thanks Alot h install.<whatever comes next> should get it done. Cheers, Frank > -- > Rick Knebel > rknebel(a)csrlink.net > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e >-- End of excerpt from rknebel(a)csrlink.net -- "At no time is freedom of speech more precious than when a man hits his thumb with a hammer" -- Marshall Lumsden -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Preserving system changes from YaST
by fpawlak＠execpc.com 22 Feb '98

22 Feb '98

On Feb 21, 1:03pm, Ted Harding wrote: > Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Preserving system changes from YaST > > And Hi again! > > The question this time concerns how to preserve manual changes made to system > setup from being re-set by YaST. > > The simplest answer would be to the question: what files are changed when YaST > reconfigures the system? Then, I would know what files to keep "backup" copies > of, so that I can then do a "diff" with the new versions created by YaST, > restore changed features I want to keep, and allow the changes which I really > want. > > With thanks, > Ted. > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > E-Mail: Ted Harding <Ted.Harding(a)nessie.mcc.ac.uk> > Date: 21-Feb-98 Time: 13:03:24 > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e >-- End of excerpt from Ted Harding Is it files or permissions that are causing you to post this question? Cheers, Frank -- "At no time is freedom of speech more precious than when a man hits his thumb with a hammer" -- Marshall Lumsden -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] testing
by fpawlak＠execpc.com 22 Feb '98

22 Feb '98

On Feb 19, 4:16pm, Richard Pepin wrote: > Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] testing > > Sorry for the inconvenience, just testing. > I did'nt receive anything for the last 48 hours, wondering if your server > is down, I have been disconnected from the list, or I am having trouble > with my ISP. > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e >-- End of excerpt from Richard Pepin Your test has come through loud and clear, and would suspect that I you get this things are working properly. Yet, I have received numerous messages from the list in the last 48 hours. Hope this helps. Frank -- "At no time is freedom of speech more precious than when a man hits his thumb with a hammer" -- Marshall Lumsden -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] KDE-beta-3 and susewm
by fpawlak＠execpc.com 22 Feb '98

22 Feb '98

On Feb 21, 12:56pm, Ted Harding wrote: > Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] KDE-beta-3 and susewm > > Hi All, > > I'm using S.u.S.E.-5.1. I did not install KDE-beta-1 off the CD because I was > already using KDE-beta-3 (which fixes several problems and is anyway better). > > So I installed KDE-beta-3 from kde.org's own RPMs once S.u.S.E.-5.1 was > installed. > > I suppose this means that the KDE installation is NOT integrated into the > susewm configuration setup, as it would have been, I dare say, if I had > installed KDE-beta-1 from the CD (the S.u.S.E.-5.1 information booklet says it > is "in susewm integriert"). > > So I would like to ask: having done a "foreign" post-installation of > KDE-beta-3, is it possible to retrospectively integrate the installation with > susewm? I believe that the Beta3 version of kde is available from the SuSE ftp server. I have it installed on my SuSE Linux installation, and it is integrated with the SuSE desktop. By that I mean that it is a desktop option selectable under other window managers. However, it is brain dead as far as the other packages that I have installed. I think that KDE is a work environment in itself -- it has its' own mail. news, browser etc. I still had to access that suse packages from a term from the kde desktop. Hope that this all sheds some light on this for you. Can't be more specific right now as I am on FreeBSD, but if you have some specifics, I can reboot to SuSE. Cheers, Frank > This would be nice, because the installed KDE desktop does not know about the > S.u.S.E. packages which were installed off the CD (whereas, for instance, > fvwm-2 would know, because susewm would have set up the configuration). > > With thanks, > Ted. > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > E-Mail: Ted Harding <Ted.Harding(a)nessie.mcc.ac.uk> > Date: 21-Feb-98 Time: 12:56:23 > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e >-- End of excerpt from Ted Harding -- "At no time is freedom of speech more precious than when a man hits his thumb with a hammer" -- Marshall Lumsden -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Nubie Yast Question:
by stugreen＠bga.com 22 Feb '98

22 Feb '98

Chris, In the case of an rpm the installation is 'rpm -ihv package.rpm' or 'rpm -Uhv package.rpm' if it is an upgrade. It is wise, however to install the package easy in the a1 set of packages on the first cdrom. (the exact path is /cdrom/suse/a1/easy.rpm). This package builds symbolic links that accomodate the expected locations for rpms and tarballs obtained via downmloads. Regards, Stu -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Nubie Yast Question:
by chris123＠netcom.ca 22 Feb '98

22 Feb '98

Sorry for this question, but Im trying to learn the operation of Yast. Example: Say I download a program in rpm format (eg: KDE beta 3.1)and download it to a directory in /root/download. Can I use Yast to install and configure the program and if so how? Or must this be undertaken by hand? Currently I have installed several programs, netscape 3.0.4, Communicator 4.0.4, ezppp and StarOffice4.0. However all of these programs have been installed by hand so to speak with help from on line doumentation. Was wondering if Yast can be used to undertake this process instead. This is a stand alone system, running SuSE 5.1 TIA ch -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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