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Trouble with Logitech Z906 Sound
by Robin Klitscher 06 Dec '22

06 Dec '22

System: openSUSE Leap 15.4; KDE Plasma 5.26.4; KDE Frameworks 5.100.0; Qt 5.15.7; Kernel 5.14.21-150400.24.33-default (64-bit); Graphics X11 Motherboard Gigabyte Z490 VISION G with sound card inbuilt. Problem: Recently purchased a Logitech Z906 5.1 sound system, but I'm having various problems in connecting it properly to the inbuilt sound card which is identified in Yast as Comet Lake PCH cAVS. Some things work; some don't. The principal difficulty is that it won't connect using the Logitech-recommended three TRS "six-channel direct" connectors. When I try to use them as the source for input to the Z906, the System Settings audio module identifies the connection as digital SPDIF, which it isn't, and all I get is silence. I can't check the alternative digital optical or digital coaxial connectors because the motherboard inbuilt device doesn't have them. The only way I can connect successfully is by using a single stereo TRS plug from the motherboard unit's Line Out socket with a conversion cable to two RCA stereo plugs at the Z906 end. That produces 5.1 sound on the face of it, but won't be taking full advantage of the capabilities of the Z906. I say it works, but it does so only in that it produces sound from each of the 5.1 speakers, even though the Audio module in System Settings shows only the Front Left and Front Right units. So, obviously, something's not right. Is there a sound system guru somewhere who can help me establish a working connection in this system between the motherboard sound unit and the Z906 using Logitech's supplied six-channel direct connectors? -- Robin K Wellington "Harbour City" New Zealand

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remote desktop between machines with private IP addresses
by Roger Oberholtzer 05 Dec '22

05 Dec '22

I have a situation where a user has a computer that they only have a private IP address for (ISP assigned). My computer is at work and also has a private IP address. Using TeamViewer, I can access the remote computer's desktop. My question is: is there an open source program that can accomplish the same thing? I suspect that TeamViewer works because it has a server that can be contacted and, I assume, set up a tunnel or whatever it does. I don't have such a server with a public IP address. This is something that I only do occasionally. So I don't want to buy a bunch of TeamViewer licenses if I do not need to. Any ideas? -- Roger Oberholtzer

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Suse Tumbleweed: VirtualBox 7.0.4-2.1: none of the virtual machines starts up
by Peter Maffter 05 Dec '22

05 Dec '22

Tried to start one of my virtual machines, that were all working with Virtualbox 6.1.X, but it got stuck in the black boot screen. Same for all other virtual machines, that were working on the previous 6.1.X versions. Does anybody have a solution for this on Suse Tumbleweed? Is there a way to install the old 6.X-rpm? Is there some build instruction for building older versions from source? I was looking on the Oracle page and they seem to be Suse 15.3/15.4 oriented. BR

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rtmp for Leap 15.4
by Damon Register 03 Dec '22

03 Dec '22

I am trying to get librtmp installed on my Leap 15.4 system. It is not available in Yast with the default repositories. With a little help from Google I found here https://software.opensuse.org/package/librtmp1 which says there is no official package but lists 3 community packages. I tried the first one (plex) but it failed to find most of the repositories that the installation was wanting. Do any of you have experience in getting rtmp on Leap? If so, did you use any of the three community packages mentioned above or some other method? Damon Register

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whom to vote for? make opensuse great and modern again
by cagsm 03 Dec '22

03 Dec '22

List, seriously, whom to vote for when I am not happy with current opensuse proceedings. Whole -v1 -v2 and more deal is pretty frustrating. Also ancient versioned packages being shipped in current 'flagship' release. please do tell me why the ddclient on maintenance hangs for like 5months and not being released: <https://build.opensuse.org/project/show/openSUSE:Maintenance:17573> why? when? this still makes the currently available ddclient package on the normal repos: Information for package ddclient: --------------------------------- Repository : Networking services and related tools (15.4) Name : ddclient Version : 3.9.1-lp154.84.1 like almost three years old: > <https://github.com/ddclient/ddclient/releases/tag/v3.9.1> I have not found yet? overlooked? the real technical reason for this whole -v1 abandonment discussion. was it because opensuse is trying to modernize and virtualize more of its core components or its whole os architecture on the inside or what is it *exactly* what the opensuse builders need from higher (more) cpu instruction sets beyond the first generation of when amd introduced its x86-64 (stop calling it intel). also nobody, *noone* produced a reliable and immediately usable package for current leap users to exactly check their cpu architecture for ABI level eligbility. that inxi stuff is bugged and all those other scripts apparently as well (awk on cpuinfo etc as far as I have read). i have plenty of AMD systems, not even only the first generation when amd started the x64 world, but even phenom II x6 1090T and such stuff. why would anyone want to ditch that kind of cpu? apparently all not eligible for -v2 readyness. or is it? please provide a sane and safe and valid and proven way to sort our cpu and platforms into the actual proper bins and baskets of these major abi levels. thanks. speaking of modern stuff, opensuse refuses to go down the software patents trap and ships like barely any codecs etc at all, so i wonder how any of you guys browses twitter on opensuse. opensuse and corporate folks speaking about how they can not break the law, and then pointing to freelance people at packman, let them break the law or fuss with the government and prosecution. cool way to get rid of trouble. thats at least how i see this in the public and this is the message that arrives on my premises. the only place i can use for videos is youtube for example as they offer streams in non nightmared codecs and encodings. plays nicely. thanks google. wonder when the rest of the industry, twitter was just a small (large encumbent) example as about how pretty much everybody else seems to just not care. or the internet is a corporates world more and more by every day. so speaking about needing modern cpu and instructions set, how about bringing the opensuse distribution up to par or modernize it on every other aspect, not starting with abandoning for no reason various cpu that re-started and advanced a whole era (x64) on the pc world. isnt opensuse just still a generic distribution to be meant for desktop and average users? so why not allowing people to use it on the very platform that expanded into a great new future with the extend 64bit instructionset introduced back then by amd in the first place. some other package that keeps me worrying strongly, is openssh. the guys also back longer time ago, introduced some key exchange (no techie here) or means to hinder quantum crypto attacks by adversaries collecting all your even encrypted streams of data they can get hold of. but I see no urgency or need at opensuse that leap would ship a decently recent openssh layer. am I misunderstanding this situation with the possibility and probability of attacking ssh or is opensuse just way too reluctant to ship like current software. not even cutting edge. but not like year old dated stuff? > <https://www.openssh.com/releasenotes.html>, check for: NTRU, post quantum i just read that leap 15.5 code deadline is like only a few weeks around the corner, january 2023. i do wonder what openssh we will get there and what and if ddclient manages to become shipped in a not-three-year-old version? what the heck :/ I remember, i used to buy and pay for suse distribution in the old days, not enterprise or such stuff, but back when you would get a shirnk wrapped package and printed manual, some CDs and DVD or so later on. book retailer and sofware shop. that kind of days. i seemed to be quite attached or admiring and excited about (open)suse and linux back in the days. I am kind of having lost that momentum...? returning to the question: who is able to lead and keep opensuse (leap) relevant for normal desktop and home users, i need to know whom to vote for. make opensuse great again. so what now? who wants my vote? ty

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[oS-en] Filtering email problem in Thunderbird.
by Carlos E. R. 03 Dec '22

03 Dec '22

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I am having a problem with mail filtering in Thunderbird (102.5.0 (64-bit)), that started after upgrading this machine to 15.4. The filter is defined as: postmaster(a)outlook.com (EN) Apply filter Before Junk Classification Getting New Mail Match all of the following From is: postmaster(a)outlook.com Subject begins with: Undeliverable: Actions: move message to daemon_l folder on Tesa (L) (an imap folder) Another, almost identical filter: postmaster(a)outlook.com (ES) Apply filter Before Junk Classification Getting New Mail Match all of the following From is: postmaster(a)outlook.com Subject begins with: No se puede entregar: Actions: move message to daemon_l folder on Tesa (L) (an imap folder) But now I see posts like this one moved to that imap folder (daemon_l): Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2022 13:56:10 +0100 (CET) From: "Carlos E. R." <robin.listas(a)telefonica.net> To: oS-en <users(a)lists.opensuse.org> Subject: [oS-en] What is the meaning of the moon in YaST Message-ID: <e92f609c-a28a-c161-2f14-e7cd381cda34(a)telefonica.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.26 (LSU 649 2022-06-02) No way it can match the filters, but none the less, that email was moved. And if I move it back to the inbox, it is moved back to daemon_l. Happened twice. The filter log contains entries like these, which are correct: [2022-12-01, 13.26.08 GMT+1] Applied filter "My emails on tesa lists" to message from "Carlos E. R." <robin.listas(a)telefonica.net> - x86-64-v2 at 2022-12-01, 13.25.02 GMT+1 thread watched [2022-12-01, 13.26.08 GMT+1] Applied filter "My emails on tesa lists" to message from "Carlos E. R." <robin.listas(a)telefonica.net> - x86-64-v2 at 2022-12-01, 13.25.02 GMT+1 marked as read [2022-12-01, 13.56.33 GMT+1] Applied filter "postmaster(a)outlook.com (EN)" to message from <postmaster(a)outlook.com> - Undeliverable: [oS-en] What is the meaning of the moon in YaST at 2022-12-01, 13.56.30 GMT+1 moved message id = d62f158a-9af1-490f-aea9-34deffa75e11(a)DB9P251MB0401.EURP251.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM to imap://robin.listas2@imap.telefonica.net/daemon_l [2022-12-01, 13.56.33 GMT+1] Applied filter "postmaster(a)outlook.com (EN)" to message from <postmaster(a)outlook.com> - Undeliverable: [oS-en] What is the meaning of the moon in YaST at 2022-12-01, 13.56.30 GMT+1 moved message id = d62f158a-9af1-490f-aea9-34deffa75e11(a)DB9P251MB0401.EURP251.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM to imap://robin.listas2@imap.telefonica.net/daemon_l The filters exists on two machines. I have stopped the second thunderbird, just in case, but it seems not to have an effect. - -- Cheers Carlos E. R. (from 15.4 x86_64 at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iHoEARECADoWIQQZEb51mJKK1KpcU/W1MxgcbY1H1QUCY4iyyhwccm9iaW4ubGlz dGFzQHRlbGVmb25pY2EubmV0AAoJELUzGBxtjUfVcHAAnixOmxZu2n/11rs334Qu yg8L1UdfAJ9VcUAEpWszZS9l9Wtpsl5Rp2EjXg== =doLn -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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phishing?
by jdd＠dodin.org 03 Dec '22

03 Dec '22

Hello, I just received a mail stating: "Your 8 important incoming emails are stuck on the opensuse.org Email server." a link sent me to the "https://ipfs.io" server that asked me for credentials, see screenshot https://www.cjoint.com/doc/22_11/LKEldUzfzvk_Screenshot-20221130-115948.png I find this very suspect what do you think? (source of the mail available) thanks jdd -- mon serveur usenet: dodin.fr.nf c'est quoi, usenet? http://www.dodin.org/wiki/pmwiki.php?n=Usenet.Usenet

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Re: whom to vote for? make opensuse great and modern again
by Ianseeks 03 Dec '22

03 Dec '22

On Friday, 2 December 2022 13:09:03 GMT cagsm wrote: > List, > > seriously, whom to vote for when I am not happy with current opensuse > proceedings. Whole -v1 -v2 and more deal is pretty frustrating. yep, not ideal having to upgrade our systems - ok if you have loads of cash though. > Also ancient versioned packages being shipped in current 'flagship' release. > please do tell me why the ddclient on maintenance hangs for like > 5months and not being released: > > <https://build.opensuse.org/project/show/openSUSE:Maintenance:17573> > why? when? > this still makes the currently available ddclient package on the normal > repos: Information for package ddclient: > --------------------------------- > Repository : Networking services and related tools (15.4) > Name : ddclient > Version : 3.9.1-lp154.84.1 > > like almost three years old: > > <https://github.com/ddclient/ddclient/releases/tag/v3.9.1> > > I have not found yet? overlooked? the real technical reason for this > whole -v1 abandonment discussion. was it because opensuse is trying to > modernize and virtualize more of its core components or its whole os > architecture on the inside or what is it *exactly* what the opensuse > builders need from higher (more) cpu instruction sets beyond the first > generation of when amd introduced its x86-64 (stop calling it intel). > > also nobody, *noone* produced a reliable and immediately usable > package for current leap users to exactly check their cpu architecture > for ABI level eligbility. that inxi stuff is bugged and all those > other scripts apparently as well (awk on cpuinfo etc as far as I have > read). > > i have plenty of AMD systems, not even only the first generation when > amd started the x64 world, but even phenom II x6 1090T and such stuff. > why would anyone want to ditch that kind of cpu? apparently all not > eligible for -v2 readyness. or is it? please provide a sane and safe > and valid and proven way to sort our cpu and platforms into the actual > proper bins and baskets of these major abi levels. thanks. > > speaking of modern stuff, opensuse refuses to go down the software > patents trap and ships like barely any codecs etc at all, so i wonder > how any of you guys browses twitter on opensuse. opensuse and > corporate folks speaking about how they can not break the law, and > then pointing to freelance people at packman, let them break the law > or fuss with the government and prosecution. cool way to get rid of > trouble. thats at least how i see this in the public and this is the > message that arrives on my premises. > > the only place i can use for videos is youtube for example as they > offer streams in non nightmared codecs and encodings. plays nicely. > thanks google. wonder when the rest of the industry, twitter was just > a small (large encumbent) example as about how pretty much everybody > else seems to just not care. or the internet is a corporates world > more and more by every day. > > so speaking about needing modern cpu and instructions set, how about > bringing the opensuse distribution up to par or modernize it on every > other aspect, not starting with abandoning for no reason various cpu > that re-started and advanced a whole era (x64) on the pc world. isnt > opensuse just still a generic distribution to be meant for desktop and > average users? so why not allowing people to use it on the very > platform that expanded into a great new future with the extend 64bit > instructionset introduced back then by amd in the first place. > > some other package that keeps me worrying strongly, is openssh. the > guys also back longer time ago, introduced some key exchange (no > techie here) or means to hinder quantum crypto attacks by adversaries > collecting all your even encrypted streams of data they can get hold > of. but I see no urgency or need at opensuse that leap would ship a > decently recent openssh layer. am I misunderstanding this situation > with the possibility and probability of attacking ssh or is opensuse > just way too reluctant to ship like current software. not even cutting > edge. but not like year old dated stuff? > > > <https://www.openssh.com/releasenotes.html>, check for: NTRU, post quantum > > i just read that leap 15.5 code deadline is like only a few weeks > around the corner, january 2023. i do wonder what openssh we will get > there and what and if ddclient manages to become shipped in a > not-three-year-old version? what the heck :/ > > > I remember, i used to buy and pay for suse distribution in the old > days, not enterprise or such stuff, but back when you would get a > shirnk wrapped package and printed manual, some CDs and DVD or so > later on. book retailer and sofware shop. that kind of days. i seemed > to be quite attached or admiring and excited about (open)suse and > linux back in the days. I am kind of having lost that momentum...? > > > > > returning to the question: who is able to lead and keep opensuse > (leap) relevant for normal desktop and home users, i need to know whom > to vote for. > > make opensuse great again. so what now? who wants my vote? > ty opensuse:tumbleweed:20221201 Qt: 5.15.7 KDE Frameworks: 5.100.0 - KDE Plasma: 5.26.4 - kwin 5.26.4 kmail2 5.21.3 (22.08.3) - akonadiserver 5.21.3 (22.08.3) - Kernel: 6.0.10-1- default - kernel-firmware-radeon 20221130

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[oS-en] What is the meaning of the moon in YaST
by Carlos E. R. 02 Dec '22

02 Dec '22

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi When I open the YaST software manager I see at the top right corner, a moon crescent or wanning (Leap 15.4) What is its meaning? - -- Cheers Carlos E. R. (from 15.4 x86_64 at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iHoEARECADoWIQQZEb51mJKK1KpcU/W1MxgcbY1H1QUCY4ikahwccm9iaW4ubGlz dGFzQHRlbGVmb25pY2EubmV0AAoJELUzGBxtjUfVjKcAn1yNZKpq4mv/gnYPZzYJ YdyoTzdHAJ9bUnEvw4OcnRF3SCRXLCeVydPkXw== =2tXb -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Thunderbird - New Address Book Missing Most Admin Functionality, No Export
by David C. Rankin 30 Nov '22

30 Nov '22

All, Does anyone have a solution for exporting your thunderbird address book from tbird 102+? I've used thunderbird 102 with 15.4 and didn't really have many complaints at all -- until I tried using the addressbook. The new web-ish interface lacks the ability to copy an e-mail with name and lacks any ability to backup or export your addressbook to any usable format. I have 20 years of contact information in the addressbook -- that I presume was converted from Mork format to the new address book format when it changed sometime around ver. 79. Today I had reason to copy a few e-mail from it, and then went to export/backup as I've done in the past. However, addressbook is no longer a stand-alone UI and is now implemented as a web-page style tab in tbird. So I open it and right-click the address seeking to bring up the context menu with "copy" and "copy with name" entries. The first would copy the raw e-mail address, the latter would copy the formal e-mail with, e.g. "John Q. Public" <jpublic(a)domain.tld>. The context menu contains no ability to copy any e-mail address or anything else for that matter. Moreover, it is difficult to manually copy the raw e-mail due to attempts to select the address dragging it instead of allowing selection. Only by carefully moving the mouse while watching for the cursor change from pointer to I-beam can you even select the e-mail to manually copy it. Then I wanted to export my address book (to ldif at least as in the past), but the new and improved address book has no export function at all. In fact this prompted a search of all of thunderbird to find out where the export feature was and to my great disappointment the only option that exists is to export the entire profile as a .zip file... WTF?? Hell, if I wanted to that I'd just tar --zstd the profile. So if you rely on the tbird addressbook be aware it is now nothing but a crippled rewrite lacking most of the administrative, or backup features it has traditionally had since version 1.X 20 years ago. That said, does anyone know how to manually export backup from the new .sqlite mess? What was a very efficient and concise Mork address book format, e.g. -rw-r--r-- 1 david david 163980 May 13 2022 abook.mab (I'm guessing this last save was immediately before my 15.4 install) is now an unholy sqlite mess: -rw-r--r-- 1 david david 1048576 Nov 24 03:21 abook-1.sqlite -rw-r--r-- 1 david david 196784 Nov 29 12:48 abook-1.sqlite-wal -rw-r--r-- 1 david david 1048576 Sep 17 04:05 abook-1.v3.sqlite -rw-r--r-- 1 david david 589824 Nov 29 00:47 abook-2.sqlite -rw-r--r-- 1 david david 0 Nov 29 00:53 abook-2.sqlite-wal -rw-r--r-- 1 david david 589824 Sep 17 04:05 abook-2.v3.sqlite -rw-r--r-- 1 david david 786432 Nov 18 22:16 abook-3.sqlite -rw-r--r-- 1 david david 0 Nov 29 00:53 abook-3.sqlite-wal -rw-r--r-- 1 david david 786432 Sep 17 04:05 abook-3.v3.sqlite -rw-r--r-- 1 david david 262144 Sep 20 04:36 abook-4.sqlite -rw-r--r-- 1 david david 0 Nov 29 00:53 abook-4.sqlite-wal -rw-r--r-- 1 david david 262144 Sep 17 04:05 abook-4.v3.sqlite -rw-r--r-- 1 david david 327680 Oct 30 04:18 abook-5.sqlite -rw-r--r-- 1 david david 0 Nov 29 00:53 abook-5.sqlite-wal -rw-r--r-- 1 david david 327680 Sep 17 04:05 abook-5.v3.sqlite -rw-r--r-- 1 david david 851968 Nov 24 03:21 abook-6.sqlite -rw-r--r-- 1 david david 0 Nov 29 00:53 abook-6.sqlite-wal -rw-r--r-- 1 david david 851968 Sep 17 04:05 abook-6.v3.sqlite -rw-r--r-- 1 david david 262144 Sep 20 04:36 abook.sqlite -rw-r--r-- 1 david david 0 Nov 29 00:53 abook.sqlite-wal -rw-r--r-- 1 david david 262144 Sep 17 04:05 abook.v3.sqlite (total sqlite size 8454320 bytes, as 5055% increase) All of the different sqlite file seem to be actively used as they are all saved recently. Apparently the is one sqlite file for each category of e-mail address now (reply-to saved, any group of addresses, by account, etc..). So even a manual sqlite query is unlikely without knowing which sqlite file has what you want or looping over each sqlite file -- are you kidding me? Anybody run across a solution for this Mozilla created cluster-fsck? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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