May 2021 - openSUSE Users - openSUSE Mailing Lists

anyone seen this prob? root can't read manpages?
by L A Walsh 05 May '21

05 May '21

I ran into this some time ago, and thought it was solved, but am having probs looking up manpages while running as root: Ishtar:/Media/Library> cd Ishtar:law> sudo man ls No manual entry for ls Ishtar:law> man ls |wc # really is there! 241 925 7864 Ishtar:law> sudo man -w ls No manual entry for ls Ishtar:law> man -w ls /usr/share/man/man1/ls.1.gz Ishtar:law> llg /usr/share/man/man1/ls.1.gz -rwxrwsr-x 1 man man 3112 Mar 2 2015 /usr/share/man/man1/ls.1.gz* Ishtar:law> llg -d /usr/share/man/man1/ drwxrwsr-x 3 man man 139264 May 3 09:04 /usr/share/man/man1/ Ishtar:law> llg -d /usr/share/man/ drwxrwsr-x 32 man man 4096 Apr 17 03:22 /usr/share/man/ ('llg' shows user+group which I normally have suppressed)

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Fwd: Reporting saved kernel logs on system that stalls during boot?
by -pj 05 May '21

05 May '21

My apologies, this message was intended for the list. :| -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: Re: Reporting saved kernel logs on system that stalls during boot? Date: Tue, 4 May 2021 19:12:13 -0500 From: -pj <pj.world(a)gmx.com> To: Carlos E. R. <robin.listas(a)telefonica.net> On 5/4/21 3:26 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote: > On 04/05/2021 22.07, -pj wrote: >> I am wondering if it would be possible to maybe get a couple of pointers >> on what to do next as far as a bug report. I don't know if it is correct >> to ask more questions in Bugzilla at this point. >> >> First off the bug report is here: -> >> https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1185542 >> >> My computer was able to boot fine with kernel 5.11.16-1-pae >> >> I was asked to install kernel-default for testing purposes >> 5.12.1-1.g9bb8944-default which I did. kernel-default failed to boot. >> >> So now 3 kernels are installed/listed in the bootmenu as follows. >> >> 1. 5.12.1-1.g9bb8944-default >> 2. 5.12.0-2-pae >> 3. 5.12.0-1-pae >> >> kernel 5.11.16-1-pae <- Is now gone. Computer is unable to boot to >> splash screen with any of the 3 above listed kernels. It makes >> little/some sense since in /etc/zypp/zypp.conf - line 554 >> multiversion.kernel the kernel 5.11.16-1-pae must have been removed <- I >> do not understand though because when I installed KOTD the 5.11.16-1-pae >> was the running kernel. >> >> Quoting the bug report now as per Comment #7 is as follows: >> "OK, thanks, then it's a generic problem of 32bit Intel kernel. >> Feel free to uninstall kernel-default again. >> >> Now, we need more details about the crash. Any chance that you have the >> relevant kernel Oops or panic in the saved kernel logs? Or if not, try >> to boot without quiet boot option, and check whether you get the stack >> traces on screen, and take a picture. That's often helpful as a start.". >> >> What does the kernel Oops or saved kernel logs mean? I have the openSUSE >> https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Report_a_YaST_bug#How_can_I_setup_network_… >> >> >> >> 1. Is this y2logs? What is the best way to retrieve these logs that are >> needed? > > No. Those are the YaST logs. > > > > You first run: > > journalctl --list-boots > > For this to work, the directory "/var/log/journal/" must exist. If it > doesn't, create it, for the next time. Great..I see here: -> https://doc.opensuse.org/documentation/leap/reference/html/book-opensuse-re… "section 11.1:". Which is the best way to perform this step (due to having kernels that are not allowing boot to Splash screen or desktop)? Will I need to create a Rescue-CD perhaps so that I can check for this "/var/log/journal" directory? I do see "C: Command Line E: Edit Entry" at the bottom left corner of the "boot menu" screen. 1. Is it best in my reply here to snip off the remainder (bottom portion) of this message before sending? Thanks. > > > Then select which of the listed boots you want. Then, request the log > for that session: > > journalctl -b 2 > > If that is the one you need, then: > > journalctl -b 2 > somefilename.log > > and attach it to the bugzilla. > > > Alternatively, you may have "/var/log/boot.msg" for the current boot > and "/var/log/boot.omsg" for the previous boot. > > > However, as the boot crashed, there will be nothing. You have instead > to remove "quiet" and take a photo with your camera. > >> >> 2. I do not want to install the operating system again as it will not >> help the situation at all most likely. >> >> 3. Sometimes I do get stack traces on the screen and am not booting with >> quiet boot option I believe. >> >> 4. I decided to take a photo of the "stack traces" and I have attached >> the image to this email. > > Don't. Upload to susepaste.org, or upload to bugzilla. > > >

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Send direct if response from Rankin wanted.
by David C. Rankin 04 May '21

04 May '21

All, After nearly 20 years on this list, seem my ISP has fsck'ed up its mail servers and I am no longer getting list messages, according to Per due to a 521 service not available from my ISP. (WTF?) Any way, I do get direct mails and I do get an occasional mail from the list. Just understand I'm not ignoring the list. I've asked a(a)o.o for log entries so I can prove to my ISP they have a problem -- terrible service now... Joy... -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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Re: printer bomb?
by Doug McGarrett 04 May '21

04 May '21

On 5/4/21 1:41 AM, Doug McGarrett wrote: > Sent here because you all have a great deal of experience and I am > known to you, even tho the OS machine is off line at present. > > About a week ago I attempted to download a PDF and print it. I tried a > couple of times to print it from two different Linux computers running > two different Linux systems. Since then neither my Epson nor my HP > printers work, altho I did get a short period of output from the HP, but > now it is ng again. > The printers say they're ready, but the systems say they're not. > > [root@localhost ~]# lprm - > [root@localhost ~]# lpq > HP-LaserJet-Pro-M201-M202 is not ready > no entries > > On laptop: > lprm - > lpq > Epson WP-4530 Series is not ready > > WARNING: The destination that brought this about is here: > > 0081dd867a979b89ecf0(a)members.ebay.com > > Also: > > "Instruction Manual Download Link from eBay - > yesterdaystractprartsinc" > > This outfit wanted to sell me a CD of the instruction manual, so I > agreed, since > I do want the information, and a CD came, but now I'm afraid to run it! > > If this is truly a printer bomb, probably some government agency should > be alerted. However, the expression "printer bomb" does not register on > Firefox. > > BTW: The manual I wanted has nothing to do with tractors; it is a ham > radio. > > --doug > > >

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How to gather "saved kernel logs" information for bug report?
by -pj 04 May '21

04 May '21

I am wondering if it would be possible to maybe get a couple of pointers on what to do next as far as a bug report. I don't know if it is correct to ask more questions in Bugzilla at this point. First off the bug report is here: -> https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1185542 My computer was able to boot fine with kernel 5.11.16-1-pae I was asked to install kernel-default for testing purposes 5.12.1-1.g9bb8944-default which I did. kernel-default failed to boot. So now 3 kernels are installed/listed in the bootmenu as follows. 1. 5.12.1-1.g9bb8944-default 2. 5.12.0-2-pae 3. 5.12.0-1-pae kernel 5.11.16-1-pae <- Is now gone. Computer is unable to boot to splash screen with any of the 3 above listed kernels. It makes little/some sense since in /etc/zypp/zypp.conf - line 554 multiversion.kernel the kernel 5.11.16-1-pae must have been removed <- I do not understand though because when I installed KOTD the 5.11.16-1-pae was the running kernel. Quoting the bug report now as per Comment #7 is as follows: "OK, thanks, then it's a generic problem of 32bit Intel kernel. Feel free to uninstall kernel-default again. Now, we need more details about the crash. Any chance that you have the relevant kernel Oops or panic in the saved kernel logs? Or if not, try to boot without quiet boot option, and check whether you get the stack traces on screen, and take a picture. That's often helpful as a start.". What does the kernel Oops or saved kernel logs mean? I have the openSUSE https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Report_a_YaST_bug#How_can_I_setup_network_… 1. Is this y2logs? What is the best way to retrieve these logs that are needed? 2. I do not want to install the operating system again as it will not help the situation at all most likely. 3. I do get stack traces on the screen and am not booting with quiet boot option I believe. 4. I decided to take a photo of the "stack traces" and I have attached the image to this email. 5. The 32 bit computer does have 4 gigabytes of memory installed. <- Do not know if that was necessary to say. :| I would really appreciate your input as I am quite inexperienced with this situation. I think it would be really neat to get some of the bugs fixed for 32 bit TW for the: Dual Core model: Intel T2400 bits: 32 type: MCP arch: M Yonah rev: 8 cache: L2: 2 MiB flags: nx pae sse sse2 sse3 vmx bogomips: 7314 Speed: 997 MHz min/max: 1000/1833 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 997 2: 997 -Best Regards

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Literature specified for SUSE used in openSUSE:
by pj.world＠gmx.com 04 May '21

04 May '21

Hi, I just reviewed a page of literature specified for SUSE, it's concerning "15 Installing Multiple Kernel Versions". In the top right corner the page states the following. Applies to SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 12 SP4 https://documentation.suse.com/sles/12-SP4/html/SLES-all/cha-tuning-multike… I was asked to complete a survey which I agreed to do so. it asked about my use of SUSE products which I ticked "no" to (since openSUSE was not allowed). It was interesting to me because the documentation really was quite good and informative for my openSUSE TW version. Is it looked down/frowned on to be using openSUSE and/or occasionally reading SUSE related documents if a websearch shows? They seem to somewhat touch base very closely in a way between the two of the distributions. I am not sure yet about if SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop is more closely related to openSUSE Leap 15.2 than TW. I'm just quite curious about this. Thanks

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Dealing with proprietary Apple iPhone
by pj.world＠gmx.com 04 May '21

04 May '21

Hello, I am trying to open Apple iPhone 'File.HEIC' types. I discovered by installing GIMP 2.10.24 on my openSUSE TW computer (all updated-to current), that I can now open and then export an HEIC image-file into a format now readable (by Okular and Gwenview) through Dolphin. I saved this particular testing file to the pc previously. I didn't know before that by installing and using Gimp that I could then export the "HEIC" file types. I don't own an iPhone it's actually a aquaintance's. (So it's not super easy to do the mounting of the device for testing). I followed an article here a bit and did have success in mounting the phone previously (Per login Instance basis, not permanent across powercycle). https://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/linux-iphone-6s-ios-11.html Do some users have opinions on how to go about mounting an iPhone more easily? How far off or difficult is it to make openSUSE able to mount iPhones more easily or what is the preferred method now? What is the preferred app for viewing these "HEIC" file types? For instance taking photos with iPhone then using the pc to more easily create adds for selling items online. I wanted to include some software information also if that could help. System Information: Software KDE Plasma Version: 5.21.4 KDE Frameworks Version: 5.81.0 QT Version: 5.15.2 Kernel Version: 5.12.0-1-default OS Type: 64-bit Graphics Platform: X11 Thanks -pj

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Re: Dealing with proprietary Apple iPhone
by Carlos E. R. 04 May '21

04 May '21

On 04/05/2021 01.47, -pj wrote: > On 5/2/21 1:42 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote: >> On 02/05/2021 14.17, pj.world(a)gmx.com wrote: >> > On 5/1/21 4:35 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote: ... >> >> Reading the netiquette page is enough; the others, well, are extra >> information. >> > Yes, there is alot of information to learn from that page no doubt. Yep. ... >> Just see how the other people are doing it. Takes a bit of practice, I >> know. Just try :-) >> >> >> Top posting style reminds us of Microsoft ;-) > I am seeing how this works a little bit now. I am confused by the > various colours of the vertical lines on the left. > Blue/Magenta/etc..etc... I hope this will get better for me since now I > am seeing how I am trying not to toppost. :-| You are doing it very well :-) >> Something else you could do is, that in Thunderbird, Account settings, >> is "define your name". It doesn't have to be your full name, it can >> also be an alias. Just how do you want us to call you. Then your mail >> address will appear like: >> >> "Some Name" adress(a)host.domain >> >> >> Also the first line of the replies, instead of saying: >> >> On 02/05/2021 14.17, adress(a)host.domain wrote: >> >> will say: >> >> On 02/05/2021 14.17, Some Name wrote: > I thank you for that suggestion. I followed that. I think this is the > first time I am trying not to toppost. Good :-) About the forgetting to post to the list, do you see in Thunderbird a row of big buttons that say: [Reply][Reply List][Forward] ... Just use the one that say "Reply List" :-) -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.2 x86_64 at Telcontar)

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Re: Dealing with proprietary Apple iPhone
by -pj 03 May '21

03 May '21

I apologize, this message was intended for the list. On 5/3/21 6:47 PM, -pj wrote: > > On 5/2/21 1:42 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote: >> On 02/05/2021 14.17, pj.world(a)gmx.com wrote: >> > On 5/1/21 4:35 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote: >> >> On 01/05/2021 23.27, pj.world(a)gmx.com wrote: >> >> ... >> >> >> See here for the long explanation: >> >> >> >> <https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Mailing_list_netiquette> >> >>> By the way I spent quite a bit of time yesterday reading the netiquette >>> and pressed on to http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html >>> and >>> https://tldp.org/HOWTO/Unix-and-Internet-Fundamentals-HOWTO/intro.html >>> but it's slow going. I really don't care at this point since it's >>> difficult enough times to keep my head up. If i'm not supposed to be >>> able to post here anymore so be it. I don't get along with people very >>> well that's why I stay alone. >>> >>> So best wishes to all. >> >> Reading the netiquette page is enough; the others, well, are extra >> information. >> > Yes, there is alot of information to learn from that page no doubt. >> Every group of people mix and interact following a set of rules, that >> can be written or "just known". People that don't adhere are often >> singled out. And a different group of people may have different >> rules, so it is a good idea when you join a new mail list to observe >> how they write and do the same ;-) >> >> >> All we are asking is that you don't reply above the previous email >> leaving it intact, but below, as I am doing it now, and deleting >> superfluous text from the previous email. It is easy to do, and it is >> the ancient usage in internet mail lists and places such as Usenet or >> Fidonet. It facilitates us understanding things without sending long >> emails with old text we already have. >> >> Just see how the other people are doing it. Takes a bit of practice, >> I know. Just try :-) >> >> >> Top posting style reminds us of Microsoft ;-) > I am seeing how this works a little bit now. I am confused by the > various colours of the vertical lines on the left. > Blue/Magenta/etc..etc... I hope this will get better for me since now > I am seeing how I am trying not to toppost. :-| >> Something else you could do is, that in Thunderbird, Account >> settings, is "define your name". It doesn't have to be your full >> name, it can also be an alias. Just how do you want us to call you. >> Then your mail address will appear like: >> >> "Some Name" adress(a)host.domain >> >> >> Also the first line of the replies, instead of saying: >> >> On 02/05/2021 14.17, adress(a)host.domain wrote: >> >> will say: >> >> On 02/05/2021 14.17, Some Name wrote: > I thank you for that suggestion. I followed that. I think this is the > first time I am trying not to toppost. >> >>

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How to do this?
by Lew Wolfgang 03 May '21

03 May '21

Hi Folks, I've got a little problem here that I bet someone here could handle. I've got a couple of thousand zip files that some knuckle-headed package created that have to be unpacked for inspection. They're named with a long date-time group with the .zip extension, as in Fri-Apr-30-185859-PDT-2021-logfile.zip Alas, they all unpack to the same filename: logfile So what's the easiest way to unzip them all and add the date-time string to the resultant logfile name so that they all don't unpack to the same filename and step on each other. Awk maybe? A clever pipeline with xargs? Or? Regards, Lew

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