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Re: [opensuse] 13.1 partition scheme
by Carlos E. R. 23 Jun '14

23 Jun '14

On 2014-06-22 00:06, Tony Alfrey wrote: > Carlos E. R. wrote: > <snip> > >>> Summary: >>> If I knew that I could DUMP grub, and write a lilo.config file that has >>> worked for 10 years, and run /sbin/lilo, and that would eliminate grub >>> from the process, I would do it. >> >> You can, if you wish and insist. >> >> But it will create other problems on the road for you. > > > And what will those problems be? Who knows? Anytime you need to update some component, if you depart widely from the distribution defaults, like using a component that is not really supported in YaST (lilo), your system can break. And few people will be able to help. Any departure from defaults adds work on your shoulders. Instead of letting YaST do it, you have to do it yourself. It is Linux, you can do almost anything with it, but... you have to work on it. > Please recall that this has been the set-up that I've used since SuSE > 9.1 was actually "new", and has only now become a problem because of a > hardware failure. Understood. But Linux changes a lot. From 9.1 till now there have been many changes, and you have not kept track of them. Trying to apply what you knew then to the current distribution creates problems. If you want to use Linux (installing it yourself, not merely using it) you need to keep current in your knowledge. Similarly with Windows: XP users, now forced to change to Windows 8, feel desperate. Linux changes even more, constantly, in usually small steps; but many. In five years, the differences are huge. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar)

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[opensuse] Anomalous reporting of btrfs by df/du
by Anton Aylward 23 Jun '14

23 Jun '14

The number don't add up: # df -h --type=btrfs Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/mapper/vgmain-vROOT 10G 7.0G 1.6G 82% / /dev/mapper/vgmain-vHOME 5.0G 2.7G 666M 81% /home Try that without the human readable # df --type=btrfs Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/mapper/vgmain-vROOT 10485760 7325208 1611576 82% / /dev/mapper/vgmain-vHOME 5242880 2820236 680968 81% /home That's with snapper removed. Now 'du' walks the tree adding up the size of the files # du -hsx /home / 2.4G /home 5.9G / So yes there is some overhead ... A lot of overhead it seems if I just look at the space used. 5.9 ==> 7.0 And 2.4 --> 2.7 But the number don't add up for 'df' by a long way. I doubt the btree overhead is all that. -- /"\ \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign X Against HTML Mail / \ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] LILO vs. grub
by Tony Alfrey 23 Jun '14

23 Jun '14

If I write a LILO config file, and I then /sbin/lilo, will that delete the contribution of grub to the MBR and thoroughly replace that with an MBR defined by LILO? Thanks -- Tony Alfrey tonyalfrey(a)earthlink.net "I'd Rather Be Sailing" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Asus G750JW wifi (Broadcom BCM4352) and kernel 3.15
by Bruce Ferrell 22 Jun '14

22 Jun '14

I found this article: https://forums.opensuse.org/showthread.php/491654-openSUSE-13-1-RC2-%28rele… and unfortunately the driver doesn't build against kernel linux-3.15.1-34.gee8dd2b Anyone have a thought on how to get it to build? the packman broadcom-wl package just blocks things that don't seem relevant TIA -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] laptop does not return to login screen after logout
by lynn 22 Jun '14

22 Jun '14

13.1 lxde After logging out, the only way to proceed to a new login screen is to press the power button and restart. I've tried logging in as root on a console and issuing init 5, but nothing. I've put the log here: https://db.tt/oeqO2hS1 Any ideas why we can't log in again after a logout? Thanks, L x -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse] 13.1 partition scheme
by Carlos E. R. 22 Jun '14

22 Jun '14

On 2014-06-22 00:13, Tony Alfrey wrote: > Carlos E. R. wrote: You replied in private, so I tried to answer in private. But your mail provider rejects me: +++································· - These recipients of your message have been processed by the mail server: ...(a)earthlink.net; Failed; 5.3.0 (other or undefined mail system status) Remote MTA mx1.earthlink.net: network error - SMTP protocol diagnostic: 550 IP 86.109.99.133 is blocked by EarthLink. Go to earthlink.net/block for details. ·································++- 86.109.99.133 belongs to smtp09.acens.net, which is used by my ISP as smtp.movistar.es - as seen on other posts of mine to the list.n Your ISP is simply blocking mine. So I have to reply on list instead. >> WE know you don't have "/boot/grub/menu.lst", and we told you why. At >> least two people did > > > But /someone/ (maybe you?) insisted that I did :-/ No. You misunderstood. Not knowing what you had installed, we listed several possibilities At some point when we learn what you really have, we can guess the rest. >> Already explained how to do it. What are you waiting for? > > Having a martini and answering emails! :-) >>> 2. insert a LILO.conf file that has worked for 10 years. >> >> If you insist... >> >> But then don't come a month or five years ahead complaining of some >> problem or complication when doing something, like installing openSUSE >> 20. You have to maintain that yourself... don't expect YaST to handle >> things that it normally does if you insist on doing unsupported changes. > > > Look back at the SuSE user group archives and see how many times I've > asked about problems with my SuSE 9.1 install. 510 posts listed (Curiously, I even see a bounce from a mail server that stopped a virus (I-Worm.Swen) that was sent to you, and me, and several others, on November 2011 - LOL) You had a problem with booting 8.1 in Dec 2003, when upgrading from 7.2 to 8.1 You also had a problem booting 9.1 on March 2011. :-)) But now you have a hundred problems, many caused by trying to do things in ways that are now obsolete, and asking a hundred questions :-) And, five years ahead, you will have again problems when upgrading to whatever openSUSE has at that time, if you don't keep tracks of how Linux changes, because Linux changes a lot. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar)

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Re: [opensuse] 13.1 partition scheme
by Tony Alfrey 22 Jun '14

22 Jun '14

Tony Alfrey wrote: > Carlos E. R. wrote: >> On 2014-06-21 23:45, Tony Alfrey wrote: >> >>> Everything in this file (etc/default/grub) refers to making changes in >>> /boot/grub2/grub.cfg. There is no /boot/grub/menu.lst on my SuSE >>> installation. >> >> WE know you don't have "/boot/grub/menu.lst", and we told you why. At >> least two people did :-) > > > But /someone/ (maybe you?) insisted that I did :-/ > > >>> I'll study it anyway, but my preference is to >>> 1. fix the MBR of Windows and >> >> Already explained how to do it. What are you waiting for? :-) > > Having a martini and answering emails! > OK, fixed Windows MBR. Next step coming up. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] FYI: Sound issue after recent update; 13.1 KDE
by Rajko 21 Jun '14

21 Jun '14

openSUSE 13.1 KDE Recent update killed my sound. After some lost time with driver, KDE and YaST settings etc, I checked mixer, and surprise, my onboard sound was muted and HDMI (not connected) enabled. It passed a lot of time since last time KDE tried to be smarter than user. Setup script can't know what is connected and what not, and user can't guess that setup has changed something that should not be changed. In other words, if for any reason you have to rescan devices, please, note that result is different from user settings and ask user what he wants to do. It will save your users some frustration. -- Regards, Rajko. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Change in browser behavior
by James Knott 21 Jun '14

21 Jun '14

There have been several openSUSE 13.1 updates recently. One difference I've noticed is that when I use Alt-F2 to go to a web site, it opens as a tab on an existing window, rather than a new window as before. Is there any way to get rid of this annoying behaviour? I use Firefox as the default browser in KDE4. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] HiRO H50070 NIC
by James Knott 20 Jun '14

20 Jun '14

I have to buy a low profile NIC for my new firewall. I came across this one and was wondering if anyone here has had experience with it. The specs lists Linux as supported. tnx jk http://www.hiroinc.com/product_details.php?item_id=21 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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