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Re: [opensuse] Re: Why is systemd[1] is mounting noauto partitions?
by Dirk Gently 13 Feb '15

13 Feb '15

Araluen wrote: > On Sun, 2014-06-01 at 16:13 -0400, Dirk Gently wrote: >> Linda Walsh wrote: >>> Felix Miata wrote: >>>> WRT openSUSE: The fence is down. The barn is empty. For all practical >>>> purposes the herd has been lost. If you don't want a system dependent >>>> on systemd... >>> --- >>> Well, that's until it goes a bit too far. >>> >>> Remember, it's just something to help help your system boot faster by >>> doing parallel boot. And now? Seems like it fell a bit short of that >>> initial goal, as well. If you already booted direct from HD and used >>> parallel boot in the run scripts, there seems to be a slowdown. What >>> I don't understand is why people keep converting more to systemd, when >>> it didn't make good on its initial promises. >> >> >> >> More importantly, shaving a couple of seconds off of boot time is >> really sooooper-dooooper important, why, exactly? >> >> Systemd is doing the equivalent of fouling up the reliability of all the >> critical control systems of an automobile, all for the stated goal of >> gettin the engine to start in 3 seconds rather than 4. >> >> The rsultant calamities would wind up in court as criminal malfeasance. >> >> Nobody has yet explained WHY saving a couple of seconds at boot time >> is ooh soooo important (And I remember the days when unix systems with only >> 1 MB of memory took 15 minutes to boot up) that it justifies fucking up the >> entire concept of run-levels, and using well-debugged shell-scripts rather than >> some pulled-out-of-the-ass custom scripting language which is NOT anywhere >> close to fully debugged, and config files full of XML crud. >> >> I think we both agree that the net effect of the trade-offs is not beneficial to users or system >> administrators, but it sure does stroke the ego of Lennert Poettering and Kay Sievert. There's >> going to be a special place in hell for those two. >> > > Well then, if we are compromising system stability for such a negotiable > benefit, how do we turn the situation around? > Or is it full speed ahead and damn the torpedoes. Unlike Farrugut's order at the Battle of Mobile Bay, going full-speed ahead is not going to achieve any useful objectives, yet the dangers of systemd are still there. For one, systemd is making APPLICATIONS now dependant on the systemd API, which means when even the biggest fanboys here, at Redhat, and other distributions finally are forced to admit that systemd is a crock of shit.... we won't be able to remove it.... in other words, unlike Farragut, the probability of eventually being blown out of the water by a systemd torpedo is 100%. SysV init has problems, but without a doubt, it does NOT present itself as being a massive security hole, nor present the risk of making a system unbootable. > > Cheers, Mark > -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] No sound in Minecraft
by Mike 03 Feb '15

03 Feb '15

I've asked on the minecraft forums without a response so I'm trying here in case that it might be a SuSE configuration issue. I do not have sound in the game. This has been a problem for several versions nowCurently running 1.7.5. I've also tried the last 2 snapshots. I can play music fine and was able to play the sound files in .mineraft/assets/objects/* via Amarok. I have deleted the assets folder and had re-downloaded everything. I looked in the bug list and I found a few sound related issues, but they suggested that there was some sounds. The log only mentions minecraft:mob.witch.idle, but there are no sounds at all in game, but in options everything is set to 100%. I tried to force an older version in profile editor but still no sound going back to 1.4.2. I see a java Playback Stream in the mixer and volume is 100% there too. Any ideas? Relevant entries in dev console [16:00:51 INFO]: Minecraft Launcher 1.3.11 (through bootstrap 4) started on linux... [16:00:51 INFO]: System.getProperty('os.name') == 'Linux' [16:00:51 INFO]: System.getProperty('os.version') == '3.7.10-1.24-desktop' [16:00:51 INFO]: System.getProperty('os.arch') == 'amd64' [16:00:51 INFO]: System.getProperty('java.version') == '1.7.0_51' [16:00:51 INFO]: System.getProperty('java.vendor') == 'Oracle Corporation' [16:00:51 INFO]: System.getProperty('sun.arch.data.model') == '64' [10:12:37 INFO]: Client> [10:12:37] [Server thread/INFO]: Changing view distance to 12, from 10 [10:16:23 INFO]: Client> [10:16:23] [Client thread/WARN]: Unable to play unknown soundEvent: minecraft:mob.witch.idle [10:46:00 INFO]: Client> [10:46:00] [Client thread/WARN]: Unable to play unknown soundEvent: minecraft:mob.witch.idle [10:46:08 INFO]: Client> [10:46:08] [Client thread/WARN]: Unable to play unknown soundEvent: minecraft:mob.witch.idle [10:47:14 INFO]: Client> [10:47:14] [Client thread/WARN]: Unable to play unknown soundEvent: minecraft:mob.witch.idle [10:47:20 INFO]: Client> [10:47:20] [Client thread/WARN]: Unable to play unknown soundEvent: minecraft:mob.witch.idle [10:55:42 INFO]: Client> [10:55:42] [Client thread/INFO]: Stopping! [10:55:42 INFO]: Client> [10:55:42 INFO]: Client> SoundSystem shutting down... [10:55:42 INFO]: Client> Author: Paul Lamb, www.paulscode.com [10:55:42 INFO]: Client> [10:55:48 ERROR]: java.io.IOException: Stream closed [10:55:48 INFO]: Game ended with no troubles detected (exit code 0) -- Collector of vintage computers http://www.ncf.ca/~ba600 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] DenyHosts daemon mode on openSUSE 11.3
by LLLActive＠GMX.Net 23 Jan '15

23 Jan '15

Hi, I am trying to run DenyHosts on OS 11.3. I can get it to sync and update the hosts.deny file, but with "rcdenyhosts status" it reports as being "unused" just after I started it with "rcdenyhosts start". I tried also with yast, setting up as a service (daemon) and starting it. It also stops immediately. In the denyhosts.log file there is no error info, just what it used to set it up at start. I've gone through the configs several times, no joy. Anyone got DenyHosts running properly? :-/ Dreiel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] running a program before shutdown
by Benjamin 23 Nov '14

23 Nov '14

Hi everyone! I do have a small problem: I want to run unison before i log out of kde, so that my files are synchronized automatically. I created a .desktop file and placed it in /.kde4/shutdown/. The .desktop file is specified by the command: unison myprofile -batch I tried it, but it seems, that this doesn´t work, because nothing was synchronized after login in again. Although in the systemsettings in the category autostart, my .desktop is listed and set to logout. Any suggestions. Best Benjamin! ps.: I already tried it with a shell-scrpit, which i also placed in the shutdown folder, but this also didn´t work…

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[opensuse] XFS filesystem total failure on return from hibernation.
by Carlos E. R. 05 Oct '14

05 Oct '14

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Hi, Since yesterday (after an update), I have experimented twice the same problem, on return from hibernation. XFS fails completely, lots of kernel messages. System has to be restarted, recovery is impossible otherwise. It seems to affect one partition only (?), the one that has my home, on xfs. I booted the 13.1 XFCE rescue image, tried to xfs-repair that one. It complained that there was a log, that I should attempt to mount it first. Mount hung. It is unkillable. Reboot of system hung. smartctl -a gives no hint of problem. The hard disk is new (190 hours). I run "xfs_repair -L" on that disk, which succeeds with no error report. I'm at the moment running the long SMART test on that disk. It will take 226 minutes. This is the first report of error in the log: I will put a more complete version of the log in another post. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" (Minas Tirith)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iF4EAREIAAYFAlMk14AACgkQja8UbcUWM1wgoQD/Ssm98MXd5XSXqi6AkdjhgHmR z+PSYYCkgbupkpnLJAgA/0WO9+HQ9Wgn7XzkVLQkv3RreJT/nZQfJRLx39TqWMar =cU8T -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] opensuse 13.1 annoying limitations
by Marco Calistri 31 Aug '14

31 Aug '14

As per the subject, IMHO this is the list: 1) BLUETOOTH doesn't works completely 2) Power Management "sucks" with laptops 3) Totem warnings the user to download plug-ins which are not necessary or which cannot get downloaded and installed I consider all the above as limitations in a modern O.S. Sorry for my commentary! Regards, -- WARNING TO ALL PERSONNEL: Firings will continue until morale improves. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Update of aaa_base removes permissions to /dev/null, again!
by Josef Wolf 23 Jul '14

23 Jul '14

Hello, a long time ago (opensuse-11.1), I experienced a problem with permissions of /dev/null beeing set to 0600 when aaa_base package is updated. The whole discussion about that issue can be found at http://marc.info/?t=123642237800003&r=1&w=2 http://marc.info/?l=opensuse&m=123671162813621&w=2 suggests that the bug has been fixed. Unfortunately, Ruediger's original message don't seem to be archived anywhere on the net. Tonight, it happened again. /dev/null became chmod'ed to 0600 on opensuse-13.1 Has the fix been lost somewhere during its 5 years lasting transision from FACTORY to opensuse-13.1? -- Josef Wolf jw(a)raven.inka.de -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Accumulating kernels
by Anton Aylward 12 Jul '14

12 Jul '14

In /boot I have /boot/initrd-3.11.10-11-desktop /boot/initrd-3.11.10-17-desktop /boot/initrd-3.11.10-71.gfba7c1f-desktop /boot/initrd-3.11.10-72.g744d90f-desktop /boot/initrd-3.11.10-73.g2829293-desktop /boot/initrd-3.11.10-74.g7d34bef-desktop /boot/initrd-3.11.10-75.ge012def-default /boot/initrd-3.11.10-75.ge012def-desktop /boot/initrd-3.11.10-76.g7c0c2b5-default /boot/initrd-3.11.10-76.g7c0c2b5-desktop I don't think I should have all those. In /etc/zypp/zypp.conf I have multiversion = provides:multiversion(kernel) multiversion.kernels = latest,latest-1,running I'm running 3.11.10-75.ge012def-desktop Certainly 10-11 and 10-17 should be gone. I've run 'purge-kernels' and it hasn't cleaned them out. What's up? -- /"\ \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign X Against HTML Mail / \ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] no connection to router after boot
by Daniel Bauer 11 Jul '14

11 Jul '14

Hello, since quite a while (some months) I have no connection to the router after boot. After the boot and login, I must switch off and on the router, establishing a new adsl-connection, and then the system connects. I have no idea where I could search for the reasons, where to look up hints or logs, what data I should mention here, where to "screw" to solve the problem... Opensuse 12.3 KDE 4.10.5 network setup "traditional" with ifup connected by cable from eth0 to adsl-router Once, after boot, I tried to switch to network-manager, but it tells me that no cable is connected, so I switched back to "traditional". Earlier, somebody said, I'd have to disconnect the router from all cables incl. phone line and power, and leave it a while. I first thought that it helped, but in fact it did not... Anybody had similar problems and found a solution? Thanks for your help! Daniel -- Daniel Bauer photographer Basel Barcelona professional photography: http://www.daniel-bauer.com google+: https://plus.google.com/109534388657020287386 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Why is systemd[1] is mounting noauto partitions?
by Michael Fischer 09 Jul '14

09 Jul '14

This hit me before, and the advice on the list was to make the partitions 'noauto' in /etc/fstab, which worked... until today. I have a 2-partition external usb drive. Relevant /etc/fstab lines: /dev/disk/by-id/ata-ST2000DM001-1E6164_W1E4R7CL-part1 /data5 ext4 noatime,user,noauto,acl,user_xattr,nofail 1 2 /dev/disk/by-id/ata-ST2000DM001-1E6164_W1E4R7CL-part2 /data6 ext4 noatime,user,noauto,acl,user_xattr,nofail 1 2 /var/log/messages shows: (I've trimmed the date and host to make the lines shorter) 2014-05-24 host /usr/sbin/cron[19321]: pam_unix(crond:session): session opened for user root by (uid=0) 2014-05-24 host /USR/SBIN/CRON[19321]: pam_unix(crond:session): session closed for user root 2014-05-24 host systemd[1]: Starting Cleanup of Temporary Directories... 2014-05-24 host systemd[1]: Started Cleanup of Temporary Directories. 2014-05-24 host /usr/sbin/cron[19711]: pam_unix(crond:session): session opened for user root by (uid=0) 2014-05-24 host /USR/SBIN/CRON[19711]: pam_unix(crond:session): session closed for user root 2014-05-24 host /usr/sbin/cron[20515]: pam_unix(crond:session): session opened for user root by (uid=0) 2014-05-24 host /USR/SBIN/CRON[20515]: pam_unix(crond:session): session closed for user root 2014-05-24 host systemd[1]: Unmounting /data5... 2014-05-24 host umount[20557]: umount: /data5: target is busy. 2014-05-24 host umount[20557]: (In some cases useful info about processes that use 2014-05-24 host umount[20557]: the device is found by lsof(8) or fuser(1)) 2014-05-24 host systemd[1]: data5.mount mount process exited, code=exited status=32 2014-05-24 host systemd[1]: Failed unmounting /data5. 2014-05-24 host mtp-probe: checking bus 4, device 8: "/sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:14.0/usb4/4-2" 2014-05-24 host mtp-probe: bus: 4, device: 8 was not an MTP device 2014-05-24 host systemd[1]: Found device ST2000DM001-1E6164. 2014-05-24 host systemd[1]: Found device ST2000DM001-1E6164. 2014-05-24 host systemd[1]: Starting File System Check on /dev/disk/by-id/ata-ST2000DM001-1E6164_W1E4R7CL-part2... 2014-05-24 host systemd-fsck[20587]: /dev/sde2: clean, 224834/54992896 files, 39120841/219942400 blocks 2014-05-24 host systemd[1]: Started File System Check on /dev/disk/by-id/ata-ST2000DM001-1E6164_W1E4R7CL-part2. 2014-05-24 host systemd[1]: Mounting /data6... 2014-05-24 host systemd[1]: Mounted /data6. /data5 and /data6 should not be getting mounted by anything other than me, as I understand it. This behavior screws up programs sourcing files on those partitions. Or is 'noauto' only about boot time (man page suggests such)? What systemd service is doing this? How is it launched? And is there a better way to tell systemd to stop this behavior on those partitions? Thanks. Michael -- Michael Fischer michael(a)visv.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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