December 2012 - openSUSE Users - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[opensuse] 12.2 Download
by Chris Arnold 08 Dec '12

08 Dec '12

List, I have been trying to download 12.2 64 bit from the opensuse.org website for 2 days. I primarily use a Mac with osx and just double click to mount a iso. I also get an error about not being able to mount the image on another Mac with osx (so I am sure it is not my Mac that is the problem). These same macs can mount any other image. My question, is anybody else experiencing ISo issues with the opensuse download? I have tried direct download, torrent and other mirrors with the same issue. Sent from my iPhone-- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] question on education repository
by George Olson 08 Dec '12

08 Dec '12

Hello all, I am selling a 10 year old desktop that I just recently installed openSUSE 12.2 on (32 bit) with an 80 gb hard drive. The person that is buying it was asking about educational games for kids to put on it, so I thought I would install the education repository and check out what was available. However, I found that on the openSUSE website, the last stable education repository that was made available was for openSUSE 11.0. (see here: http://en.opensuse.org/Education_repositories) So I am wondering what decisions were made about the education repository? Is there something else that covers everything in it for later distributions? It turns out that I think they are going to install windows xp on the computer anyway, but it made me curious about what is going on with that. -- George Olson Box #1: 12.2 | KDE 4.9.2 | AMD Phenom IIX4 | 64 | ATI Radeon HD 3300 | 16GB Box #2: 12.2 | KDE 4.9.1 | AMD Athlon X3 | 64 | nVidia C61 GeForce 7025 | 4GB Laptop: 12.2 | KDE 4.9.2 | Core i7-2620M | 64 | Intel HD Graphics 3000 | 8GB learning openSUSE and loving it -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] ps axfl - I used to get the whole line, in 12.2 it's truncated?
by Per Jessen 07 Dec '12

07 Dec '12

On an openSUSE 11.0 system: # ps axfl | grep spamd 4 0 32331 3347 18 -2 46760 4176 select S< ? 388:16 \_ /usr/bin/perl -T -w /usr/sbin/spamd --socketpath=/var/lib/bulwark/spamd --nouser-config --virtual-config-dir=/var/lib/bulwark/domains/%l/%d --siteconfigpath=/var/lib/bulwark/config --username=bulwark --max-children=25 --timeout-child=600 -r /var/run/spamd.pid The line would be appropriately fold to fit the window. On an openSUSE 12.2 system: # ps axfl | grep spamd 0 0 10780 3670 20 0 2916 544 pipe_w S+ pts/2 0:00 \_ grep --color=auto spamd 0 0 10778 1 20 0 11060 6968 - Rs ? 0:00 /usr/bin/perl -T -w /usr/sbin/spamd -d --socketpath=/var/lib/bulwark/spamd --nouser-config --virtual-config-dir=/var/lib/bulwark/domains/%l/%d --siteconfigpath=/var/li The line is just truncated. Is there some setting I've missed? -- Per Jessen, Zürich (-0.7°C) http://www.dns24.ch/ - free DNS hosting, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Re: open source software for interactive whiteboard
by Christian Galeffi 07 Dec '12

07 Dec '12

Builded! https://build.opensuse.org/package/show?package=open- sankore&project=home%3Agallochri%3AWiild http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/gallochri:/Wiild/openSUSE_1… Any help is appreciated! gallochri -- Have a lot of fun... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] KDE upgrade from 4.8 to 4.9
by Davi C. Rodrigues 07 Dec '12

07 Dec '12

After the answers to my question on Okular 0.15, I would like to do a KDE upgrade. I have opensuse 12.2. Before proceeding I would like to check if I am not doing anything dumb. >From https://en.opensuse.org/KDE_repositories I just learned which repos I need to add. I read that before adding the new repos I must disable the two repos: KDE:Extra KDE:UpdatedApps The above are the only active repos with "KDE" in the name that I have. To disable a repository I only need to unckeck the "Enabled" option in Yast / Software Repositories, or should I delete the repository without cheking "Keep Downloaded Packages"? Finally, just to double check, such upgrade is "stable" and usually happens without issues, right? Thanks -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] memory card, vfat and file dates
by Istvan Gabor 07 Dec '12

07 Dec '12

Hello: I use an SD card in my digital camera. When I mount the card in openSUSE (through a memory card reader) the creation dates of the files has a one hour shift compared to the real creation dates. For example for a photo taken at 18:30, the file creation date shown is openSUSE is 19:30. I use KDE 3.5.10 that mounts the card automatically as /media/disk. I changed the mount option from "winnt" to "windows95" but it did not changed creation time. How could I get the real creation time instead of the shifted one in openSUSE? Thanks in advance, Istvan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] about mail server and formats
by Amaury Viera Hernández 06 Dec '12

06 Dec '12

Hi everyone, I'm using postfix as smtp on my mail server, I need that : 1- When the users send emails with atachments in .doc formats, the mailserver could send this messages with this atachments in .odt too. 2- When the users send emails with atachments in .odt formats, the mailserver could send this messages with this atachments in .doc too. 3- When the users receive emails with atachments in .odt formats, the mailserver could store this messages with this atachments in .doc too. 4- When the users receive emails with atachments in .doc formats, the mailserver could store this messages with this atachments in .odt too. 5- The others combinations between office and opendocument formats(I know that office 2010 supports the opendocument format, but i need to convert the documents while the users are sending and receiving emails). Some ideas, tools or ways to do it? I apologize me for my language, I don't speak english fluentlly, Regards, Amaury. 10mo. ANIVERSARIO DE LA CREACION DE LA UNIVERSIDAD DE LAS CIENCIAS INFORMATICAS... CONECTADOS AL FUTURO, CONECTADOS A LA REVOLUCION http://www.uci.cu http://www.facebook.com/universidad.uci http://www.flickr.com/photos/universidad_uci -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Cross-posting - why not?
by Greg Freemyer 06 Dec '12

06 Dec '12

On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 1:48 PM, Patrick Shanahan <paka(a)opensuse.org> wrote: <snip> > please: > http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Mailing_list_netiquette#Cross_posting You're quick. That's been part of the official wiki page less than 24 hours! I wonder if it was discussed, or just added to the rules with little thought. I'd argue that cross_posting is fine if everyone follows a reply-all philosophy and all of the lists allow posts by non-subscribers. It does simplify things if your email client deduplicates the emails. (I use gmail for mailing lists and it does that behind the scenes. I never know that I got 2 copies of the same email.) That's how LKML (linux kernel mailing lists) handles it, so those technically elite users encourage and use a cross-posting philosophy on their main lists. I see it employed all the time there and I don't recall anyone ever complaining. With LKML, the end result is a collection of 100 or so related specialized lists were specialists are subscribed to just a few lists and anyone can post to any of the lists. If an issue affects multiple areas, then the posters just cross-post to all of the various lists and the reply-all philosophy that is mandated on LKML lists makes it work transparently. Fyi: numerous of the more technical opensuse lists have been open to all posters for years, they rely on spam filters to keep the spam out. A few spams get in every now and then, but I bet it is only 10 or 20 per year. fyi2: You should note I did not post this to multiple lists, but it is a perfect example of a post that would fit on more than one list. In particular, this one and -project. I don't really even know which one is the better choice. I chose this one only because this is where the reference link was made. Clearly my vote is that ALL opensuse lists be opened up for non-subscriber posts and follow the lead of LKML for both the reply-all and the cross-posting netiquette issues. Greg -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Okular 0.15 in opensuse
by Davi C. Rodrigues 06 Dec '12

06 Dec '12

Is it possible (and recommended) to install okular 0.15 in opensuse 12.2? Thanks, Davi -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] KDE 4.9.4 release available in KDE:Release:49
by Raymond Wooninck 06 Dec '12

06 Dec '12

Dear List, Yesterday the KDE 4.9.4 update was released and I can inform you that the packages are available in the repository KDE:Release:49 for the openSUSE versions 12.1 and 12.2 Further information around KDE 4.9.4 can be found here : http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.9.4.php Regards Raymond openSUSE KDE community maintainer -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] just a quick test
by Katherine Moss 06 Dec '12

06 Dec '12

I want to see if this goes through. I'm wondering if sending via html was my problem causing my posts to previously be denied. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse] Cross-posting - why not?
by Greg Freemyer 06 Dec '12

06 Dec '12

Katherine, I'm replying to both you and the list with your reply in place. I hope that's fine. On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 3:25 PM, Katherine Moss <Katherine.Moss(a)gordon.edu> wrote: > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Greg Freemyer [mailto:greg.freemyer@gmail.com] <snip> >> Clearly my vote is that ALL opensuse lists be opened up for non-subscriber posts and follow the lead of LKML for both the reply-all and the cross-posting netiquette issues. >> >> Greg >I would agree. Too many rules here. I've posted three times, and have been denied three times with no clear explanation. I switched from HTML to plain text for all email messages, for there is no way to set it up through Outlook 2010 for format preference per list, only per message, but even after fixing that, I've still been denied. I don't know why you were denied. I too get annoyed with the no HTML rule, but I'd rather not bring that into this thread. As to how to setup Outlook, I'm afraid I have no idea. I exercise Outlook for some projects at work, but I don't use it much for linux mailing list interaction. ;) Greg Greg -- Greg Freemyer Head of EDD Tape Extraction and Processing team Litigation Triage Solutions Specialist http://www.linkedin.com/in/gregfreemyer CNN/TruTV Aired Forensic Imaging Demo - http://insession.blogs.cnn.com/2010/03/23/how-computer-evidence-gets-retrie… The Norcross Group The Intersection of Evidence & Technology http://www.norcrossgroup.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Is this a useful error message
by ianseeks 05 Dec '12

05 Dec '12

Hi I seem to get this error every other day just after i've logged in and before i've launched anything. FETCH JOB ERROR (Plasma Desktop Shell) Unknown Error (unable to fetch item from backend) Does anyone know who (app) owns this unhelpful message and what it may really mean in a more specific and helpful way ? It brings back bad memories for me of GPF Fault messages on early versions of Windows. regards Ian -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Why did Windows never do the equivalent of /home ?
by Duaine Hechler 05 Dec '12

05 Dec '12

Wouldn't it behoove MS, to implement the /home concept (separating the OS from the users' data in different partitions) ? Once I got "into" Linux, I never understood why MS did not implement this. It would make it so much easier for all the support people (and users - who do their own thing) Any ideas ? -- Duaine Hechler Piano, Player Piano, Pump Organ - Tuning, Servicing & Rebuilding (314) 838-5587 / dahechler(a)att.net / www.hechlerpianoandorgan.com Home & Business user of Linux - 12 years -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Installation failure of openSuSE12.2, I need help.
by Marc Chamberlin 05 Dec '12

05 Dec '12

Searching around on the internet, it appears I am in for a rough road trying to install a dual boot system on my new ASUS G75VW laptop. (It came with Windows 7 x64 installed and there is a lot of chatter in Google land about something called EFI partitions??? Also a lot of Google hits on openSuSE forums, but when I try to open them up for viewing, my browser (Firefox) is not showing any contents!) I downloaded and created an installation DVD for openSuSE12.2 x64 and managed to figure out how to reach the bios and change the device boot order so as to boot from the DVD drive first. Upon inserting the DVD installation disk and powering up the laptop I can see that the initial phase of bringing up ELILO boot, (what happened to GRUB?) loads the kernel and perhaps a screen and a half worth of additional messages (too fast for me to read). But suddenly the display breaks up badly with unreadable lines that look mostly like a lot of dots and dashes start appearing, and it appears to soon reach a GUI (composed of green, grey, and white streaks of colors) but this too is badly corrupted and non-readable. So I am not even reaching a point where I can configure anything while attempting to install openSuSE! The display adapter is an NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660M if that helps... So how do I proceed? Thanks Marc... -- "The Truth is out there" - Spooky -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Kmail filters suddenly stopped working
by Dennis Gallien 04 Dec '12

04 Dec '12

Running KDE 4.9.2 from the 49 repo (12.2, x64), have not updated *anything* for ~6 weeks. My Kmail incoming filters have all been working, no problem at all. A couple days ago the filters just stopped working on incoming (POP) messages. Once in the inbox the Apply All Filters works, but again not as messages are being received. Suggestions? TIA, --dg -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Kmail filters suddenly stopped working
by Dennis Gallion 04 Dec '12

04 Dec '12

Running KDE 4.9.2 from the 49 repo (12.2, x64), have not updated anything for ~6 weeks. My Kmail incoming filters have all been working fine, no problem at all. A few days ago the filters just stopped working on incoming (POP) messages. Once in the inbox I can use the context menu Apply All Filters and the messages are all filtered, but again, not as the messages are being received. I know others have had problems with the Kmail filters, but since I haven't but then problem later cropped up suddenly as it did, I'm stumped on where to look. Suggestions? (Is it safe to go to 4.9.3?) TIA, --dg -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] cannot print duplex in firefox etc on 12.2
by John King 04 Dec '12

04 Dec '12

Opensuse 12.2 Firefox 17 Cups 1.5.4 I have recently moved from opensuse 11.4 to 12.2 (new installation) and now find that I cannot print in duplex from firefox, thunderbird, google chrome and kate. Printer OKI C531dn, using the oki supplied ppd file. Duplex printing is faultless in okular, acrobat and libreoffice (once the printer language type in libreoffice is changed from pdf to postscript), but firefox, thunderbird, chrome and kate will not print duplex whatever the settings in their print dialogues. In 11.4, using the same ppd file, there was no problem with duplex printing, using a cups 1.5.4 server. Also, I can print in duplex from these applications in xubuntu12.04 and Mint14, using the same ppd file. The cups version is 1.6.1 on both these machines. The fact that I had to change the printer language type in Libreoffice from pdf to postscript to enable duplex printing made me wonder whether there is something similar I have to change in the mozilla/kate/chrome configuration, but I haven't been able to find anything similar. If I redirect the print from the cups server on my 12.2 to a virtualbox mint14 cups server, then duplex printing works, so it does seem something specific to the 12.2 setup. I'd appreciate any pointers to how I can correct this. John -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] samba-3.6.9-130.1.i586 breaks AD auth?
by Moby 03 Dec '12

03 Dec '12

I have opensuse machines (12.2 on tumbleweed, 12.2 not on tumbleweed, and 12.1 not on tumbleweed) that run Samba configured as member servers in an AD domain. Windows clients and other machines (linux running samba etc) can map (or mount) samba exports. Everything was working fine until samba got updated on the machines to version 3.6.9-130.1 from http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/network:/samba:/STABLE/. Now all attempts to map (or mount) fail with access denied. Is anyone else seeing this problem? Regards and thanks for any help in advance, -- --Moby -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] virtuoso, tracker, meta.db, and a full hard drive
by George Olson 03 Dec '12

03 Dec '12

Howdy everyone, Just wondering about what happened the last few days. Several times I found that my laptop was running a very high temperature, and the culprit was "virtuoso" on the system activity gui. So I would stop virtuoso, and/or log out of kde and then log back in, and things would seem to go along fine for a few hours. Then it would start up again. When I would hover the mouse over nepomuk in the system tray, it would say "File index service is not running." The last time it did this, I finally decided to go into nepomuk in the system settings and disable the nepomuk file indexer and the nepomuk email indexer. I had it indexing emails because I have been running mail to see if I like it. So I am wondering if this has something to do with kmail, because if I were only running thunderbird, I would not need the email indexer to be running. In any case, this morning before work I was going to check the latest news, and I opened up firefox and got this message that there was a problem with firefox security because my hard drive was full. So I checked the hard drive, and I found that the last 18 gigs that I had empty had been filled up. When I looked to see what it was, it was this: On /home/george/.cache/tracker, the following files show up: george@linux-o3ef:~/.cache/tracker> ls -l total 18452444 -rw-r--r-- 1 george users 11 Sep 26 20:17 db-locale.txt -rw-r--r-- 1 george users 2 Sep 26 20:17 db-version.txt -rw-r--r-- 1 george users 6 Sep 26 20:40 first-index.txt -rw-r--r-- 1 george users 10 Sep 26 20:40 last-crawl.txt -rw-r--r-- 1 george users 18884642816 Dec 3 18:27 meta.db -rw-r--r-- 1 george users 32768 Dec 3 18:30 meta.db-shm -rw-r--r-- 1 george users 10240000 Dec 3 18:29 meta.db-wal -rw-r--r-- 1 george users 11 Sep 26 20:17 miner-applications-locale.txt -rw-r--r-- 1 george users 0 Dec 2 16:49 no-need-mtime-check.txt.A4EVOW -rw-r--r-- 1 george users 0 Oct 10 21:20 no-need-mtime-check.txt.CEPBMW -rw-r--r-- 1 george users 352020 Sep 26 20:17 ontologies.gvdb So you see that meta.db is huge. So what is the general advice here? Should I ditch kmail so that I can run nepomuk indexer (for fast file searches which is actually very helpful) and also delete this meta.db database? Or are there some other ideas out there? -- George Olson Box #1: 12.2 | KDE 4.9.2 | AMD Phenom IIX4 | 64 | ATI Radeon HD 3300 | 16GB Box #2: 12.2 | KDE 4.9.1 | AMD Athlon X3 | 64 | nVidia C61 GeForce 7025 | 4GB Laptop: 12.2 | KDE 4.9.2 | Core i7-2620M | 64 | Intel HD Graphics 3000 | 8GB learning openSUSE and loving it -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Jovie - how to start it automatically?
by Gustav Degreef 03 Dec '12

03 Dec '12

Hi folks, I would like to start Jovie automatically on boot. I am using OS 12.1, KDE 4.7.2, clean installwith all updates. I can start it manually from the command line and I have reasonable tts output from various programs. There is in Personal Settings/Accessibility/Text to Speech/General tab a check box for Jovie. I have enabled that, but It won't still will not stat on boot. I'm using a laptop and boot (passwordless) directly to the desktop. It took me a fair amount of searching on googleand kde support to get the tts applications to work nicely. Getting Jovie to start automatically is the one part I can't find an answer to. Thanks, Gustav. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] gimp
by Hans Krueger 03 Dec '12

03 Dec '12

anybody got gimp 2.8 running on suse 12.1 ? -- Hans Krueger hanskrueger007(a)roadrunner.com registered Linux user 289023 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Logrotate fails for mysql
by Carlos E. R. 02 Dec '12

02 Dec '12

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I get this in the log: <9.4> 2012-05-17 22:19:14 Telcontar logrotate - - - ALERT exited abnormally with [1] <9.4> 2012-05-17 22:19:14 Telcontar logrotate - - - #007/usr/bin/mysqladmin: refresh failed; error: 'Unknown error' <9.4> 2012-05-17 22:19:14 Telcontar logrotate - - - /etc/logrotate.d/mysql failed, probably because <9.4> 2012-05-17 22:19:14 Telcontar logrotate - - - the root acount is protected by password. <9.4> 2012-05-17 22:19:14 Telcontar logrotate - - - See comments in /etc/logrotate.d/mysql on how to fix this <9.4> 2012-05-17 22:19:14 Telcontar logrotate - - - error: error running non-shared postrotate script for /var/log/mysql/mysqld.log of '/var/log/mysql/mysqld.log ' <9.4> 2012-05-17 22:19:14 Telcontar logrotate - - - Reload syslog service..done Those comments say: # If the root user has a password you have to create a # /root/.my.cnf configuration file with the following # content: # # [mysqladmin] # password = <secret> # user= root # # where "<secret>" is the password. # # ATTENTION: This /root/.my.cnf should be readable ONLY # for root ! And I do have that file with the right permissions: Telcontar:~ # l .my.cnf - -rw------- 1 root root 202 Mar 27 2011 .my.cnf and they have the specified contents: [mysqladmin] password = mypassword user= root So, what happens? This has started right after the last mysql upgrade. Another bug? - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAk+1hWMACgkQtTMYHG2NR9XnMQCfUjpQaBLSblmpLrwM8PoTOa32 QaUAnRr1S5gY4o2jcRAx+XPh53BhUken =RHcd -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Logitech h390 USB headset troubles
by Jim Sabatke 02 Dec '12

02 Dec '12

I needed a headset that doesn't use the standard headphone jack which has worn to the point where it is intermittent and will soon need pretty expensive service to work. So, I bought a Logitech h390 USB headset hoping that it would work on my openSuse 12.2 laptop (HP G72-B60US). I have all updates installed as of today. I had a little trouble getting it working, and net searches made it look pretty much hopeless, but I finally found a configuration that has both earphones and microphone working. So far so good, until I rebooted and it wouldn't work. I experimented and the following behaviors occur: 1. Booting with the h390 plugged in results in the headset not working. 2. Booting with the h390 plugged I can login to a user, but then the keyboard is totally unresponsive. The mouse still works. 3. Booting with the h390 unplugged and then logging into a user, and THEN plugging the h390 in allows the h390 and keyboard to function properly. 4. After step 3, locking the computer, or going into the sleep mode, and then returning to the user still allows the h390 and keyboard to function. 5. After step 3, switching to another user disables the h390 and the keyboard. 6. After step 5, switching back to the original user enables the h390 and keyboard. In any case where the h390 and keyboard do not function, I have found no combination of unplugging and plugging in the h390 that will re-enable the h390 and keyboard until the laptop is rebooted with the h390 unplugged. Obviously I can work around this, albeit in an ugly manner. Also, the other user is not computer savvy enough to be able to understand how to make it work, and I am basically trying to make her happy by getting video chat working for her. I've really hit a wall here. Any pointers would be appreciated. TIA, Jim -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Re: Why does MS-Windows need no "initrd-equivalent" in order to boot w/a wider range of x86[-64] compat HW?
by Linda Walsh 01 Dec '12

01 Dec '12

Greg KH wrote: > On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 04:07:28PM -0800, Linda Walsh wrote: >> Perhaps someone can explain to me why Windows doesn't >> need a pre-boot ramdisk in order to boot, while Linux does? > > It does need one, and it has one, why do you think it doesn't? ---- The boot procedure for Windows is documented in the Windows NT internals book. There is no ramdisk that it uses. > > Note, this is _way_ off-topic here. --- Where do you think it would be "on-topic", considering _you_ don't want to hear it in any venue? You know the requirement of an initrd is bull, Claiming windows has one is even worse bullshit than I'd ever give you credit for. You can trace a windows boot -- there is no preload of a memory-resident copy of windows, that then loads windows. The drivers for the hardware are on the disk in /windows/system32/drivers. On Windows, it reads their boot managager, which then loads 'winload' which *demand*-loads drivers and services from disk -- they aren't all bound in to the kernel in order for it too boot. Please read Chapter 13 on Startup and Shutdown of the 5th edition of the Windows Internals book to get straightened out. The only time Windows needs a ramdisk during boot is when the boot-image needs to be downloaded from the net (i.e. a diskless boot). -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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