January 2011 - openSUSE Users - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[opensuse] Re: IPv6 in Firefox: does it work? [Was: What is the proper entry for /etc/hosts 127.0.0.1?]
by Joachim Schrod 07 Jan '11

07 Jan '11

Per Jessen wrote: > Carlos E. R. wrote: > >> On Wednesday, 2011-01-05 at 12:24 +0100, Per Jessen wrote: >> >>>> But if I write in firefox: >>>> >>>> http://FE80::21E:BFF:FE08:4CCB >>>> >>>> I'm refered to a google page instead of my printer. So, linux is not >>>> IPv6 aware >:-) >>> >>> Try this instead: >>> >>> http://[FE80::21E:BFF:FE08:4CCB] >> >> Same thing :-( >> >> cer@Telcontar:~> ping6 "FE80::21E:BFF:FE08:4CCB" >> connect: Invalid argument >> cer@Telcontar:~> ping6 "FE80\:\:21E\:BFF\:FE08\:4CCB" >> unknown host > > Yes, the link-local address can't be used like that - TBH, I don't know > why. > For ping6, you need to specify the interface: > > ping6 -I ethX FE80::21E:BFF:FE08:4CCB And that shall be _better_ than plain ol' ping? To all the IPv6 proponents here: Don't tell users what one *can* technically do. We've read it a thousand times, it's getting annoying. Tell users what the advantage of switching to IPv6 is *now* for home or SOHO scenarios. What does one get by using a tunnel, besides experience? And while getting experience might be of interest for network engineers or people who admin networks at large institutions, it doesn't mean a lot for the majority of openSUSE users. They didn't need experience for IPv4 -- why should they need experience with IPv6 at once? If they really would need it, it would be proof that IPv6 is really much worse than IPv6. So ``getting experience'' is not a valid reason to switch now. Oh, and please don't tell ``all will be good and everything works'', that ain't the case. If you do so, you're a fanboy, and don't act professional. Tell about the problems that one enounters during switching and how they can be solved. Yes, we'll have to go to IPv6 eventually, but the user experience now is just crap. http://arstechnica.com/business/news/2010/09/there-is-no-plan-b-why-the-ipv… has a nice and adequate representation. The transition once was planned to go via dual-stack for several years; but this plan has gone down the drain, obviously. Joachim PS: FTR, I know a lot about IPv6, but then that's part of my job -- my company does network consulting. But I don't think that's necessary for home and SOHO users, or even for sysadmins in larger companies that don't have to manage networks. And no, I can't see any reason at all why people like Carlos should switch before their ISP offers them full IPv6 connectivity. I surely won't do in my home network. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Joachim Schrod Email: jschrod(a)acm.org Roedermark, Germany -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Run Command history location
by Terry Eck 07 Jan '11

07 Jan '11

If I right click on the desktop one of the options in "Run Command". I have a couple of entries I'd like to delete. Where is the history located so I and edit them? Thanks, Terry -- openSUSE 11.3 -- Kernel 2.6.34 -- GNU/Linux -- Thu 01/06/11 10:00am up 14 days 0:42, 3 users, load average: 0.04, 0.05, 0.07 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Filling up of messages and warn
by Duaine Hechler 06 Jan '11

06 Jan '11

Running 11.3 Don't know when it started, probably within the last three months, also no hardware changes have been done for about a year. Every few days, /var/log/messages and /var/log/warn keep growing to take up my root partition - going from 26% to 100%. How do I stop this ? -- Duaine Hechler Piano, Player Piano, Pump Organ Tuning, Servicing & Rebuilding Reed Organ Society Member Florissant, MO 63034 (314) 838-5587 dahechler(a)att.net www.hechlerpianoandorgan.com -- Home & Business user of Linux - 10 years -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] opensuse 11.3 power down system with apcupsd (solution)
by Dieter Werner 06 Jan '11

06 Jan '11

Hi, I searched for a way to power down my box at a predefined time including switching off the power from the UPS. "shutdown -h time" handles the shutdown of the system nicely, but to power down the UPS some changes have to be done: /etc/sysconfig/shutdown : HALT_POWERDOWN_INSERT="/etc/init.d/apcupsd powerdown" "try-powerdown" will only power down the UPS if it is running on battery at this time. The script /etc/init.d/apcupsd from apcupsd-3.14.6-8.1 contains a wrong path for the apcupsd-lite binary, it should be APCUPSD_LITE=/sbin/apcupsd-lite instead of APCUPSD_LITE=/usr/sbin/apcupsd-lite Additionally, the action performed in case of "powerdown)" has to be changed: it should perform action "--power-off" instead of "--killpower". "--killpower" only takes effect if the UPS is running on battery at this time. Following patch can apply the changes: --- apcupsd 2010-07-05 18:34:19.000000000 +0200 +++ apcupsd_my 2010-12-18 12:29:01.741526103 +0100 @@ -26,7 +26,7 @@ ### END INIT INFO APCUPSD=/usr/sbin/apcupsd -APCUPSD_LITE=/usr/sbin/apcupsd-lite +APCUPSD_LITE=/sbin/apcupsd-lite test -x $APCUPSD -o -x $APCUPSD_LITE || exit 5 # Shell functions sourced from /etc/rc.status: @@ -138,7 +138,7 @@ ## Special command: Instruct UPS to shutdown. sync & echo -n "Instructing UPS to powerdown " - $APCUPSD_LITE --killpower >/dev/null 2>&1 || rc_failed + $APCUPSD_LITE --power-off >/dev/null 2>&1 || rc_failed rc_status -v ;; try-powerdown) Dieter -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] listing directories in tree format?
by Thomas Taylor 06 Jan '11

06 Jan '11

Hi all; I used to have a script for displaying only directories in tree format but can't seem to find it. I've tried various cli commands using ls but no luck, all the files are displayed and not in tree fashion. the command, "ls -lARhd" comes closest. My interpretation of man ls tells me the -d should limit the display to only directories but it doesn't do that. Any suggestions? Thanks, Tom -- Tom Taylor - retired penguin openSuSE 11.3 x86_64 openSUSE 11.4M5 x86_64 KDE 4.5.00, FF 3.6.8 claws-mail 3.7.6 registered linux user 263467 linxt-At-comcast-DoT-net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] moving to IPv6
by Per Jessen 05 Jan '11

05 Jan '11

Carlos E. R. wrote: > On Tuesday, 2011-01-04 at 20:56 -0500, James Knott wrote: > >> Even if it was only 127.0.0.0/8, it would only delay the inevitable. >> IPv4 >> simply cannot meet the needs of today, let alone the future. The >> more people >> try to dream up schemes to extend IPv4, the worse the problem will >> get. Move >> to IPv6. I have! > > It is not our decision to make. It is our providers (the ISPs) who > must make that move. > > And not one provider, but all, at the same time. Nah, that's not necessary - many providers have already started, but far from all. (I haven't checked, but last I looked, there was a distinct lack of IPv6-capable CPE, eg. xDSL boxes). For bridging the gap during the transitional period, there are two or three options (4to6, 6to4 etc). -- Per Jessen, Zürich (-1.8°C) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] final draft GNU Wget 'cheat sheet'
by Carl Hartung 05 Jan '11

05 Jan '11

Hi All, I've finally created the GNU Wget 'cheat sheet' I've always wanted and am asking here for proofreading and comments, please. I know! ... Quite OT. :-) But I do so much *reading* here these days and very little posting, maybe no one gets mad? Besides, it's a good chance to say 'Hi!' and 'Happy New Year' to everyone. regards, Carl Link to cheat sheet: <http://www.cehartung.com/wget-cheat-sheet.txt> -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse] Sharing kmail folders on network versus IMAP, versus?
by Gustav Degreef 04 Jan '11

04 Jan '11

On 01/03/2011 03:34 PM, Roger Oberholtzer wrote: > On Mon, 2011-01-03 at 15:04 +0530, Gustav Degreef wrote: > >> On 01/02/2011 09:16 PM, James Knott wrote: >> >>> James Knott wrote: >>> >>>> Gustav Degreef wrote: >>>> >>>>> Is there a way for them to share the same inbox, sent, drafts, etc. >>>>> folders over the network? If not, then is it possible to easily switch >>>>> to imap? >>>>> >>>> Gmail supports IMAP. Just create the new IMAP accounts on the email >>>> clients and leave the POP account in place, so that the old mail will >>>> remain available. If desired, you can move the existing mail from >>>> the POP folders to new ones on the IMAP server. Once that's been >>>> completed, you can delete the POP accounts from the email clients. >>>> Of course, with gmail, the users can also use web mail access, when >>>> away from their computers and have all their mail available. >>>> >>>> >>> Forgot to mention, when you set up IMAP, turn off the POP downloads, >>> so that new messages will only appear in IMAP. >>> >>> >> Very much appreciate all the input, I went to the gmail page and looked >> at the imap info. >> >> One of the reasons I am not sure about IMAP is that my friends' office >> staff have many kmail folders where the mail is sorted to. The mail is >> sorted to folders with reference to individual person, topic, status, >> etc., etc. The folders have become complex over the eight years of >> use. But the Gmail webmail interface does not have the capacity to >> create folders. If my friends switch from POP to IMAP could they >> retain the folders and folder structure that has evolved? That is why >> we were considering sharing the kmail folders on their internal >> network. Thanks, Gustav. >> > I also sort e-mail to many folders. So I have my gmail forwarded to my > Linux system. So I do not use imap or pop with gmail. This way all mail > arrives via SMTP, where it is sorted into IMAP folders using procmail. > Thus I only set up filters in one place, independent of any reader. I > run an imap server so I can access these anywhere. This also means I can > use any e-mail reader locally without the worry of how it will store > e-mail. The advantage of using imap is that it sorts out maintaining > info about new/unread/read messages across all readers on different > machines. Exporting kmail limits this to kmail. > > So, maybe use gmail forwarding? > > Yours sincerely, > > Roger Oberholtzer > Sorry, I seem to have horribly messed up this thread. Trying to continue the discussion on a new thread. Sounds like a nice arrangement, could work for us, but I don't know anything about procmail. And I would need some kind of link to a tutorial before even attempting it. I have installed the new system for my friends, now to configure it. Any pointers to an online how to etc. would be great. I looked in the opensuse SDB but nothing seems to be close to what we need. Thanks for the tips. Gustav. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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Fwd: Re: [opensuse] Split DNS? Solved
by Marc Chamberlin 04 Jan '11

04 Jan '11

On 1/1/2011 7:41 PM, John Andersen wrote: > On 12/31/2010 4:52 PM, Marc Chamberlin wrote: > >> 3. Last, be careful of using rcnamed when restarting the server. It can and will delete files and directories in the /var/lib/named area >> without doing any kind of backup first. That is poor programming on someone's part also and breaks a fundamental rule of good computer >> science - NEVER delete or change user data without backing it up first and making sure you have a good backed up copy before making such >> changes, or deleting it!!!... > Its supposed to do that. > > The files you configure do not live in that directory. > If you were making changes down in /varl/lib you were in the wrong place. > > John - I am going to disagree with you and this is what I am trying to point out.... Some of the files under /var/lib/named do get copied over from /etc and SOME DO NOT. For example the actual files containing DNS records do NOT get copied over and therefore MUST be edited directly under /var/lib/named/... As a user, trying to grok what is the model behind the file system is not easy, nor can I find it well documented. Nevertheless, I will continue to argue that a more robust design would compare time stamps on files to be copied over, and before any files designated to be copied, the script should first back up the target files. That is a far more friendly design and far safer form of a programming practice. (you don't have to backup up to an infinite depth either, limit it to say 10 levels or whatever....) The overall design of the file system supporting the bind/named DNS server is really poorly thought out. Not only did I get confused and lost time and data trying to figure it out, but I will further argue that I do NOT understand why all servers cannot be architect in such as way so that ALL of their files can be found under a single "root" directory. And to me there is a real logical location - /srv/named that should hold ALL the files for the DNS server. (as well as all other servers such as /srv/tomcat6 /srv/ftp /srv/samba /srv/dhcp /srv/mysql etc etc....) Why do all these files need to be scattered all over the place? If necessary use links to "put" files in other places, but for heaven's sake make it easy to FIND ALL of them under a single dir!!! It would also make it a lot easier when migrating from one version of SuSE to the next, I could just put /srv in it's own partition and mount it then... (an yes I might have to do some reconfiguring, but at least I would have a good starting point and KNOW where everything is located...) Marc Chamberlin... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] openoffice, lock files and Samba
by lynn 04 Jan '11

04 Jan '11

Hi I have word .doc files in a folder shared by Samba. Here is /etc/samba/smb.conf: [global] security = USER workgroup = MSHOME [PUB] workgroup = MSHOME path = /home/steve/pub/ public = yes browseable = yes read only = no force user = steve force group = users When I mount /home/steve/pub somewhere else e.g like this.: mount -t cifs //192.168.1.2/pub /home/steve/notas -o rw,nobrl and then open /home/steve/notas using Dolphin, I can open a .doc file in openoffice, it creates a lock file and I and only I can edit and save it. It deletes the lock file when I close the .doc file and then someone else can edit it. If I browse to the shared folder itself, using smb:/ in Dolphin or Konqueror however and click a .doc file, openoffice opens a copy of it from the kde temporary folder, no lock file is created on the samba share since the file is not being opened from there. Further, trying to open the file from the openoffice open dialogue using smb:/ tells me 'You can only open local files'. Files stored on the share in openoffice format behave the same. In windows it works fine by clicking the file you want to open from the windows file browser. Word opens the document. The lock file is created *in the shared folder*. The file can be edited and saved correctly. No one else can edit the file until it is closed i.e. until the lock file is deleted. In other words my problem/question is why do I have to remount an already shared folder somewhere else in Linux to be able to correctly edit and lock files when using konq or dolphin? Using the smb:/ protocol and mounting by hand do not appear to be the same. opensuse 11.3, ooo-3.2.1 opensuse/novell versions (both 3.2.1.4 and 3.2.1.6 bulids behave the same.) steve:users has both a Linux password and a samba password. Thanks L x -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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