November 2010 - openSUSE Users - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[opensuse] Install openSUSE on unsupported storage medium?
by Jörg Faschingbauer 04 Nov '10

04 Nov '10

Hi all, I recently managed to get a ServeRAID M1015 SAS/SATA Controller to work under kernel 2.6.34.7-12-default, by grabbing the driver source from Fedora 13 and compiling it. While this was a relatively simple task, I wonder what's the way to install openSUSE on a system that has no disks other than this controller. To put it another way: how can I add a storage driver before the installer goes out to probe for disks? It would be great if you could provide me with some links and hints on where to read on. For example: The bootloader presents me with the "F6" option to add a "Driver update medium"; I'm wondering what this is, and if this is the way. Is http://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/hvogel/Update-Media-HOWTO/index.html still up to date? I'm new to SUSE; Linux itself is well understood. Thanks in advance, Joerg -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse] Re: 11.2_update & now: LC_CTYPE: cannot change locale (en_US.UTF-8)
by Linda Walsh 04 Nov '10

04 Nov '10

Patrick Shanahan wrote: > * Linda Walsh <suse(a)tlinx.org> [11-01-10 19:44]: > > Please, set your mail client to respond to the list. I read the list, is > where I saw your question. I *really* have NO need for duplicate emails. > Your attention to this will be appreciated. > > tks, Greg Freemyer wrote (to someone else having similar distress) > fyi: some of the opensuse developer / project lists are being opened > up to allow non-subscriber posts. The advantage is that if a topic > comes up that needs the input of a non-subscriber, then they can just > be added to the cc: line. > > The trouble is that for those lists reply-all needs to become the norm > for the to actually work correctly. > > I'm a proponent of the change, but I doubt it will make its way to the > end-user lists like this one anytime soon. > > > fyi: This is how the LKML lists have been for years and I think other > developer lists are similar, so many developers are used to that > behavior. On high volume mailing lists it also allows filters to be > setup to flag emails addressed to the subscriber as opposed to just > another list email. > > Greg > ---- What I find interesting is how someone takes the time to send an extra response, just about this topic. If they were going to actually continue the conversation, they could politely mention their preferences in their next response to the main chain as an addendum. But for people to go out of their way to make a point that has nothing to do with the topic is ridiculous, since if they aren't going to contribute any further to whatever is being discussed, then it's likely their wish would be granted by default. However, it appears that people who aren't contributing further, but simply want to make a point about their personal preferences and have a believe that they are important enough to have their personal preferences remembered (along with millions of other, naive internet users who expect everyone around them to remember and accommodate their wishes. Certainly it's far easier to filter out a redundant message than it is to read a message that you never receive. That's what sometimes happens to me -- people expect that I'll pay attention to a message that isn't addressed to me, but is sent to a group mailing list. I *may* see the message, but if I am busy, I may forget to look in the specific 'per-group' folder. If I do remember, by the time I do, it might be weeks later. Certainly, if I am speaking to someone, it makes more sense, in the general case, to make sure I direct my message to that person, and Cc: the wider audience so that others may chime in. The fact that some people are bothered by getting 2 messages only shows a lack of organization on their part. If/When I get two responses, my email filters look to see if the message was sent directly to me (vs. being sent through a mailer), and if so, puts it in my personal inbox. The one that some might call a duplicate (or the other way around), goes into a group-specific mailbox where I store only the messages for that group -- allowing me to only look at and read opensuse messages when I open my opensuse box. So I'd suggest to those who are upset by people who take a common sense toward email by sending email to the one spoken to (by default, modified by random chance remembering of their personal preferences) and filter out the copy they don't want. If they don't want to dedicate a mail folder for opensuse, but have small enough volume to have all email go into one Inbox, then they could have their mail processing software compare mail-user ID's and throw away duplicates. At least that would seem to be the most sensible approach, rather than expecting everyone to remember your personal preferences... *cheers* :-) linda to remember their personal preferences remembered. when it's likely that not even their name will be remembered the day after tomorrow. are really showing everyone their excessive egocentricity's level of intolerance and/or immaturity -- as though they believe that they are important enough to have their personal preferences memorized by everyone else -- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] MozillaThunderbird-3.1.6-1.1.x86_64.rpm just stopped working??
by David C. Rankin 03 Nov '10

03 Nov '10

Guys, Here is a strange one. A couple of days ago, tbird was updated to 3.1.6. Tonight - it crashed and the "We're Sorry" dialog appeared asking to send details to Mozilla (fine - I did, twice). The tbird would not restart -- at all. Same "We're Sorry" dialog. ps ax showed nothing tbird related running. Shutting down the desktop and restarting didn't fix it. Huh? I downgraded to 3.1.5 and all is good again. Anybody else see this or have any guesses what might have gone wrong? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] need help with simple Makefile - no rule to make target (huh?)
by David C. Rankin 03 Nov '10

03 Nov '10

Guys, For the little programming I do, I always just type the gcc command for each file. But... I've got a project that was growing and it uses gsl for some file and not for others so I thought I would experiment with a basic Makefile. I'm talking *simple*. However, on my first go, I'm getting that darn: make: *** No rule to make target `tst_isolv.c', needed by `tst_isolv.o'. Stop. error. The 2 object makefile I'm experimenting with is: CC = gcc CFLAGS = -Wall -lm -lgsl -lgslcblas OBJECTS = isolv_state.o tst_isolv.o tstim : $(OBJECTS) $(CC) -o tstim $(OBJECTS) $(CFLAGS) isolv_state.o : isolv_state.c isolv_state.h $(CC) -c isolv_state.c tst_isolv.o : tst_isolv.c isolv_state.h $(CC) -c tst_isolv.c clean: rm -f tstim isolv_state.o tst_isolv.o All the files are in the current directory and yes the recipes are preceded by 'tab' characters: 22:50 alchemy:~/dev/prg/ccpp/lib/gsl> ls -1 isolv_state.c isolv_state.h isolv_state.o Makefile tst-isolv.c tst-isolv.o Running make gives: 22:54 alchemy:~/dev/prg/ccpp/lib/gsl> make make: *** No rule to make target `tst_isolv.c', needed by `tst_isolv.o'. Stop. Huh? Why is it looking for a target to make tst_isolv.c'? Why doesn't it just do what I told it to and use 'gcc -c tst_isolv.c'? I know the issue is some 'forest for the trees' thing that I'm completely missing... So help a brother out -- what's the trick? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse] How to upgrade my kernel?
by James D. Parra 03 Nov '10

03 Nov '10

Because I respect David's advice, and I've used zypper up in the past for routine upgrades of installed software. However, following my last post, I did fire up Yast, and sure enough, there were the kernel upgrades waiting for me. I installed them... Unfortunately, on rebooting the nvidia drivers (260.19.12) won't work with the new kernel, and the machine just boots to the command line, so I'm no better off. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ If you downloaded the NVidia driver you only need to rerun from the CLI. For example, as root run ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-260.19.12.run (or the package you used to install previously). You'll need to run 'init 3' first. Best, James -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] How to upgrade my kernel?
by Bob Williams 03 Nov '10

03 Nov '10

Since upgrading my system back to 11.3 I am being plagued with the intermittent hangs that occur with the latest nvidia drivers. I have read that upgrading the kernel to 2.6.36 will cure these problems, but I'm unsure how to go about this. I've enabled the ../Kernel:/HEAD/openSUSE_11.3/ repository, which contains a number of packages relating to kernel 2.6.36-90.1, but I'm not sure which boxes to tick in YaST. My current kernel package is kernel-desktop 2.6.34-7 which is 129Mb, but all the component 2.3.36 packages are a lot smaller. Which ones do I need to get an equivalent setup here? Currently installed is: kernel-desktop kernel-desktop-devel kernel-devel kernel-source Many thanks, Bob -- Registered Linux User #463880 FSFE Member #1300 GPG-FP: A6C1 457C 6DBA B13E 5524 F703 D12A FB79 926B 994E openSUSE 11.2 64-bit, Kernel 2.6.31.14-0.4-desktop, KDE 4.5.2 Intel Core2 Quad Q9400 2.66GHz, 8GB DDR RAM, nVidia GeForce 9600GT -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] inode exist - file does not
by Georg 03 Nov '10

03 Nov '10

Hello, I have a strange problem. ls shows the file and its size etc, also stat gives me the inode number etc., but if I try to open it or use file to see what it is, I get "No such file or directory" Where should I look for the problem? tks 2.6.34-12-default #1 SMP 2010-06-29 02:39:08 +0200 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Speed (or lack) of 11.3
by Brad Shelton 02 Nov '10

02 Nov '10

I want my speed back. Am I going to have to go back to 11.0, or some other distro to get my system speed back? Since I've installed 11.3, everything is soooo sloooow. It's downright painful. Maybe I did something wrong. --- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse] RE: Viewing HTML source
by Duaine Hechler 02 Nov '10

02 Nov '10

Found out anything yet ? Duaine Hechler wrote: > >> OK now that's odd, I presume you're using openSUSE and I presume you're using >> the openSUSE version of OOo. >> > > openSuse 11.1 and using the opensuse reps >> >>> Installed 3.0.0.9, did the above procedure. At first I thought it worked >>> however after I did a Save As and reopened the file, back to square one :'( >>> >> >> My apologies I missed one thing up there, when you do the paste do "Paste >> Special" > Unformatted Text then you get rid of all the legacy junk in behind >> >> >>> Something happened at least back to 3.0.0.9 >>> >>> How far back do I need to go to fix this >>> >>> Duaine >>> >> >> >> What happens when you open the file with a browser and go "View source" from >> there? >> >> > Everything looks fine ! >> If there is nothing particularly top secret about the documents, could you >> send me one of them so I can check it over for a bug. >> >> Cheers >> GL > > Attached is one of the files. I've been using OpenOffice for editing > html files since day one - since around 2002. > > Also, it seems, the view html source WAS working until it was moved > into the View options menu. > > Here are my websites: > > www.fvbbs.org > > www.hechlerpianoandorgan.com > > Good luck, > Duaine > -- > Duaine Hechler > Piano, Player Piano, Pump Organ > Tuning, Servicing & Rebuilding > Reed Organ Society Member > Florissant, MO 63034 > (314) 838-5587 > dahechler(a)att.net > www.hechlerpianoandorgan.com > -- > Home & Business user of Linux - 10 years -- Duaine Hechler Piano, Player Piano, Pump Organ Tuning, Servicing & Rebuilding Reed Organ Society Member Florissant, MO 63034 (314) 838-5587 dahechler(a)att.net www.hechlerpianoandorgan.com -- Home & Business user of Linux - 10 years -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Embedded Spaces in Pathnames
by Lucky Leavell 02 Nov '10

02 Nov '10

I have been trying to figure this one out all week both at work (Red Hat) and at home (OpenSuSE). I have a script that walks all of the ext3 filesystems on a system and detects those files and directories with either no user or no group (or both) creating an output file using the -ls option on the find command. On files/directories with no user, I want to change the user to nobody and likewise for the group. I could run the initial script twice, once to detect unowned files and the other to detect unowned groups and handle each separately. However, on some systems we have terabyte filesystems with millions of files and a single find command can run for days. Thus I would like to take this initial file and use that to correct both problems. The problem I keep running into is with pathnames with embedded spaces. I have tried everything I can think of using shell scripts, awk and perl and they all have problems with pathnames with embedded spaces. Can anyone point me to some good articles that may be of some help? Thank you, Lucky Leavell -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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