openSUSE Users July 2009

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by jdd

I just notice that there will be nomore kde3 for the upcomming openSUSE 11.2. I don't want to grin. Not necessary. I just wanted to ask here what do you have in kde3.5 and don't find in kde4 and you would like to have. Not to say you will have it but to give info to devs... I stopped using kde4 on 11.1 for problems in the config panel and lack of understanding of the new windows layout. I expect this to be solved before next release; what do you think? be constructive :-) jdd NB: I miss the kweather applet, but it don't work neither in kde 3.5 :-( -- http://www.dodin.net http://valerie.dodin.org http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-eic8MSSfM http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1412160445 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

12 years, 10 months

[opensuse] General Poor quality of Opensuse

by Peter Nikolic

I have used Opensuse now for some years since the days of 5.3 in fact and Linux in general well before that since the days of the Early 0.9 kernels all floppy distro no X i also ran Slackware and Red Hat and tested a few more along the way so i know a thing or two about Linux i have even brewed up my own distro at one time . It has to be said now after attempting to get 11.2 MS2 and 11.2 MS3 to play the game the standards of releases has fallen to a new all time low how on earth have you got the front to call these releases anything other than Alpha at best . The sound system is a total mess this pulseaudio thing is what nothing more than a total blight on the system there needs to be a choice for users risk pulseaudio or can that and run safe Alsa sound system . I know you are going to say Alsa doesn't do this or that but unlike pulseaudio it never failed to work it never chopped the audio Beagle ! what a total pain and complete resource hog once again it needs to be a LOT easier to un-install or not install at all With the requisite warning for those that do install it beware it will hog your CPU for excessive amounts of time , Likewise Nepomuk . KDE now i actually don't happen to believe all that has been said about the use of or rather almost ENFORCED use of KDE4.x and whilst it is sort of shaping up it will not be ready for the 11.2 release no way too much still don't play ball nice at all and needs sorting a lot to do with multimedia just plain does not work or if it does thanks to the enforced use of that pulseaudio stuff jitters and skips or as happens here when playing a DVD it stops then repeats a sylable carries on for a few seconds then does the same again well i spose if you like Norman Collier that's all well and good i think he's a prat . It seems now that no one actually gives a monkeys about the standards of the releases now that some members of staff have been dispensed with it seems and quite probably others the wrong staff members were dispensed with what is it going to take to get this distro back on track and back to a decent standard , Even the Ill fated 10.0 was far better than 11.2 is right now and arguably better than 11.2 as well. Then we have this whole License thing about codecs and DVD playing software things like DHT as well , People purchase a distro and rightfully so expect to be able to install it bang in a DVD and have it play not go faffing around having to instantly pollute a new install with essentially foreign packages not everyone has a good enough Internet connection to do that any way , maybe it is time for Opensuse to find a new home where German licensing rules don't apply . This mail is aimed squarley at the Opensuse team who o know will call me for everything under the sun plus some it is a two way street don forget i have gripes with quite a few there who's attitudes STINK but i am not interested in them right now , Contray to the comments that will come in from one in perticular a lot of the content of this email will be agreed by a considerable number of people a lot will keep stum they dont want their name to appear thats ok by me some may just get brave enough to agree fair dincum blue but do not for one moment think i am a one off this world is full of people that think one thing and say another for the sake of not standing out There is a lot more i could mention maybe i will shortly but one thing is for sure the situation as of this moment is a total disgrace to the SuSe name and a very poor shadow of it's former good name sort it out people , There is no point being the first ones to release something if it is a complete screwup a little more time in the R&D and less in the sales will work wonders Pete .

12 years, 10 months

[opensuse] Linux Kongress 2009

by Kurt Garloff

Hi, Linux Kongress 2009 is back to Germany again and taking place in Dresden from Oct 27 thr Oct 30 -- with the first two days being reserved for tutorials. (Those of you who were angry about the conflict with the plumbers conf -- it has been resolved now.) http://www.linux-kongress.org/2009/ I would appreciate many contributions from the openSUSE community. The program committee is looking forward for your contributions. http://www.linux-kongress.org/2009/cfp.html Best, -- Kurt Garloff, VP OPS Partner Engineering -- Novell Inc.

12 years, 10 months

[opensuse] BASH: has $COLUMNS gone nuts?

by David C. Rankin

Listmates, Here is one I'm having difficulty understanding. As part of your environment the "LINES" and "COLUMNS" variables are defined telling you the number of lines and columns an xterm has. Many old script examples make use of them. Now, I can't make use of them? Specifically, from the command line: echo $COLUMNS properly returns the number of columns for the terminal. But calling or assigning $COLUMNS in a script no longer works. Try this in a bash script: #!/bin/bash echo $COLUMNS exit 0 Nothing?? Why? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

12 years, 10 months

[opensuse] nepomukfromhell - 99% of CPU

by David C. Rankin

List, I had removed /usr/share/autostart/nempmuk..desktop for the specific reason of preventing that Beagle like application from starting. After a couple of hours, my machine is brought to its knees. I knew what the problem was before I even ran killall $(ps ax | grep nepomuk), and sure enough the beast was back. I rechecked /usr/share/autostart/ and there was no nepomuk. How in the heck did it start on its own after I had removed the autostart entry and after I had rebooted without it present?? To see how nepomuk cripples a systems, see: http://www.3111skyline.com/download/openSUSE_bugs/kde4/screenshots/nepomuk-… http://www.3111skyline.com/download/openSUSE_bugs/kde4/screenshots/nepomuk-… -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

12 years, 11 months

[opensuse] Frustrated building inkscape 0.47, issue should be simple, just need a bit of help.

by Per Jessen

Hi David I'm just about to complete a build of inkscape0.47pre1 on openSUSE-11.0-32bit. The configure went fine (after I'd installed the necessary libary and include files). Prior to that I downloaded and built libgc. I'll try the same on x86_64 and report back. /Per -- Per Jessen, Zürich (23.6°C) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

12 years, 11 months

Re: [opensuse] Losing NFS mounts on 11.1

by James Pifer

On Mon, 2009-07-27 at 16:35 +0200, jdd (kim2) wrote: > James Pifer a écrit : > > >> On 10.3 I could switch back and forth and the mounts would stay > >> connected, or reconnect in the background, not sure which. I've looked > >> through the man page and don't see anything relevant. > > I have no real idea, but do you have good fstab options? did you read > the *mount* man page? > > jdd > > These mounts are not done through fstab. I suppose they could be, but it was never needed in the past, and I definitely do some manual mounts on occasion. On 10.3 if I manually mounted drives, and then switched my network connection**, the mount would persist. On 11.1 the NFS mounts all drop immediately. **Switching my network connection using Network Manager. IP address stays the same. Other apps continue to work fine, as well as my smb mounts. It's just NFS mounts that croaks. I did look at the mount man page and did not see anything that looked like it would help. Thanks, James -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

12 years, 11 months

[opensuse] Frustrated building inkscape 0.47, issue should be simple, just need a bit of help.

by David C. Rankin

Listmates, I think I have looked for an answer before on this, but can't recall for certain. I'm trying to build inkscape 0.47 on openSuSE 11.0 and I'm running into problems with having libgc.a or libgc.so properly recognized by ./configure. This libgc is the boehm garbage collector from hp: http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Hans_Boehm/gc/gc_source/gc.tar.gz (** This is version 6.8 -- meets requirements of >6.4) It is installed with the normal ./configure --prefix=/usr, make, make install and it installs, among other things: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 849284 2009-07-30 23:52 /usr/lib/libgc.a -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 700 2009-07-30 23:52 /usr/lib/libgc.la* lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 14 2009-07-30 23:52 /usr/lib/libgc.so -> libgc.so.1.0.2* lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 14 2009-07-30 23:52 /usr/lib/libgc.so.1 -> libgc.so.1.0.2* -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 491964 2009-07-30 23:52 /usr/lib/libgc.so.1.0.2* Pursuant to its install instructions, the path to /usr/lib needs to be in /etc/ld.so.conf, it is by default: 00:55 alchemy:~/linux/apps/gc6.8> grep /usr/lib /etc/ld.so.conf /usr/lib64/Xaw3d /usr/lib/Xaw3d /usr/lib64 /usr/lib However, after the ./autogen.sh (completes OK), the ./configure dies at: <snip> checking for GC_init in -lgc... yes checking libgc version 6.4+... no configure: error: libgc (the Boehm Conservative Collector) 6.4+, is needed to compile inkscape -- http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Hans_Boehm/gc Now the strange part is the same packages (gc and inkscape), build and install just fine with the exact same options on archlinux, so my problem here is something on opensuse that I can't figure out how to set so that the library is seen by ./configure. How do I go about finding out why ./configure for inkscape won't see the libgc on openSuSE 11.0? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

12 years, 11 months

[opensuse] Mail server HowTo?

by Clayton

I've decided to tinker with setting up a mail server. I've never done this before... so it's all new to me. I have a domain I want to use. It's set up with DynDNS to forward all web traffic to my local computer (which has a dynamic IP that my ISP likes to change at random.. usually at least twice per day). The webserver side works great.... my sub domains are responding correctly etc. I've added their Mail Hop Relay service to one of my domains. This should in theory provide MX records, and according to their website things are setup correctly on their side... so now it comes down to me and my local settings... and this is where things are not working exactly right. I've read through and attempted to follow this HowTo: http://en.opensuse.org/Mail_server_HOWTO which in theory should allow me to set up postfix. After reading and following the steps (I think I got it right) I've tested locally by using mailx and: - sending a mail to a regular local user works, and I see the mail arrive in /var/spool/mail/. - sending mail to an alias does not work (I see the bounce in /var/spoo/mail) - sending mail to external email addresses... disappears, and never arrives (at least not yet) Is there some clearer documentation that anyone knows about, or some other info I can read up on? Or any obvious things that I may have missed? Port 25 on my router is forwarded... the Mail Relay is set to use port 25... not sure where to look next. C. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

12 years, 11 months

[opensuse] BASH: Shorter way to do [[ $line == QUIT ]] || [[ $line == Quit ]] || [[ $line == quit ]] && break ?

by David C. Rankin

Bash gurus, What is a shorter way to do multiple case insensitive tests on a string or variable that would accomplish this: [[ $line == QUIT ]] || [[ $line == Quit ]] || [[ $line == quit ]] && break Basically what I am looking for is some case insensitive way to test for quit or exit without having to define a test for each possible permutation without bringing in a big hammer like sed or the like. I am a bit confused on the test expansion but know things like $line == [Qq]uit won't work. I can do it in case: case $line in [Qq][Uu][Ii][Tt] ) break;; esac But that seems like a clunky use of case. Is there a better way? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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openSUSE Users July 2009