installed it yesterday on my brand new thinkpad, and most of the basic stuff seems to be working : tested the wired/wireless connection :ok. can write DVD's, sound is ok, hibernation and sleep : ok , sdcard reader : ok, and last but not least, video graphics, weel that's a special case with this laptop, it includes 2 graphic controller : 1 discrete, the ati hd3650 and am integrated controller , intel mobile GM45 express chipset. i knew i wasn't going to get this switchable graphics thing in order... by default, the installation chooses the intel chipset. which works ok, but doesn't give you the power of the ATI. i changed the bios setting to discrete graphics ( swichable off ). when booted into command line, i could run sax and it installed the correct ATI drivers. but the next reboot set me back to the intel chipset, and indeed the bios was back to switchable graphics enabled ?
jef peeraer
jef peeraer wrote:
installed it yesterday on my brand new thinkpad, and most of the basic stuff seems to be working : tested the wired/wireless connection :ok. can write DVD's, sound is ok, hibernation and sleep : ok , sdcard reader : ok, and last but not least, video graphics, weel that's a special case with this laptop, it includes 2 graphic controller : 1 discrete, the ati hd3650 and am integrated controller , intel mobile GM45 express chipset. i knew i wasn't going to get this switchable graphics thing in order... by default, the installation chooses the intel chipset. which works ok, but doesn't give you the power of the ATI. i changed the bios setting to discrete graphics ( swichable off ). when booted into command line, i could run sax and it installed the correct ATI drivers. but the next reboot set me back to the intel chipset, and indeed the bios was back to switchable graphics enabled ?
jef peeraer
update : the issue with the bios seems ok now, i checked the xorg log , and the ati driver is indeed loaded, however sax still shows that the graphics card is the intel chipset. so it's probably a bug in sax somewhere ....
jef peeraer
Hi all,
I recently installed openSUSE 11.1 on my multiboot system. I have four OS and every one is booted from a boot partition, with 10.3, had no problems to boot. The following are the lines under my menu.lst for booting openSUSE:
title OpenSUSE 11.1 root (hd0,5) kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/disk/by-id/ata-TOSHIBA_MK2035GSS_17PRT0NKT-part6 vga=0x317 resume=/dev/disk/by-id/ata-TOSHIBA_MK2035GSS_17PRT0NKT-part5 splash=silent showopts initrd /boot/initrd
vmlinuz and initrd are symbolic links to the vmlinuz-2.6.27.7-9-pae and initrd-2.6.27.7-9-pae respectively. I also tries to change the device by id to /dev/sdax but it didn't work. I got the following error message from grub "error 2: bad file or directory type" I also tried to change the symlinks to pint to the files but no luck.
The other systems boot normally just openSUSE is giving me that issue.
By the way, the first booting performed by the system after openSUSE 11.1 installation ran without problems.
Any ideas on what to do?
Thanks,
On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 01:07, Fernando Costa jfcosta1@yahoo.com wrote:
Hi all,
I recently installed openSUSE 11.1 on my multiboot system. I have four OS and every one is booted from a boot partition, with 10.3, had no problems to boot. The following are the lines under my menu.lst for booting openSUSE:
[snip - grub entry]
I got the following error message from grub "error 2: bad file or directory type" I also tried to change the symlinks to pint to the files but no luck.
The other systems boot normally just openSUSE is giving me that issue.
Did you ever install oS11 on that machine? I am a relative newbie to oS so take what I write with a pinch of salt. Having got that out of the way, oS booting 'changed' with oS 11. You can no longer use 'olde' grub to boot it. I chain load to the oS 11 grub and boot from there. Unfortunately, my home machine is in the 'garage' for servicing, so I can't post my grub. I do think that if you install the oS11 grub, you should be able to boot the other systems with that. However, you'll have to experiment a bit.
HTH ne...
2008/12/22 ne... guhvies@gmail.com:
On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 01:07, Fernando Costa jfcosta1@yahoo.com wrote:
Did you ever install oS11 on that machine? I am a relative newbie to oS so take what I write with a pinch of salt. Having got that out of the way, oS booting 'changed' with oS 11. You can no longer use 'olde' grub to boot it. I chain load to the oS 11 grub and boot from there.
I have booted OS 11.1 using GRUB provided in OS 10.3, and SuSE 8.2 even, this worked excatly as I expected. So I think your issue was due to something else.
Trying to get the trackball buttons set correctly (four bottons + scroll ring), .. 11.1 detects an "ImExPS/2 Generic Explorer Mouse". (Tested all the other drivers in 11.0 with no difference.) Motion is OK, and THE SCROLL RING WORKS, but the buttons are scrambled.
Tried setting ButtonOrder in Xorg.conf, but none of the selectable PS/2
drivers recognized them in 11.0.
Tried using xev to remap the buttons, but the indices are not consistant
- for example, the top right bottom (h/w 3 = right click) comes up as **8**, and no driver will accept 8 buttons.
Finally did a reinstall with 11.1, but find no differences. f anyone has a working config or any pointers it would be GREATLY appeciated.
TIA,
Lee
============================================== Leland V. Lammert lvl@omnitec.net Chief Scientist Omnitec Corporation Network/Internet Consultants www.omnitec.net ==============================================
In the dim and distant past, L. V. Lammert wrote:
Trying to get the trackball buttons set correctly (four bottons + scroll ring), .. 11.1 detects an "ImExPS/2 Generic Explorer Mouse". (Tested all the other drivers in 11.0 with no difference.) Motion is OK, and THE SCROLL RING WORKS, but the buttons are scrambled.
Tried setting ButtonOrder in Xorg.conf, but none of the selectable PS/2
drivers recognized them in 11.0.
Tried using xev to remap the buttons, but the indices are not consistant
- for example, the top right bottom (h/w 3 = right click) comes up as
**8**, and no driver will accept 8 buttons.
Finally did a reinstall with 11.1, but find no differences. f anyone has a working config or any pointers it would be GREATLY appeciated.
I've decided to try a trackball instead of my 3-button-scrollwheel mouse and a quick bit of searching came up with the Kensington Expert Mouse as a likely candidate http://us.kensington.com/html/2200.html.
It sounds like the device Lee described in this message, so I'm interested to know whether you eventually got it working? Does anybody have any other advice on pros & cons of trackballs?
Thanks, Dave
* Dave Howorth (dhoworth@mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk) [20090921 12:35]:
I've decided to try a trackball instead of my 3-button-scrollwheel mouse and a quick bit of searching came up with the Kensington Expert Mouse as a likely candidate http://us.kensington.com/html/2200.html.
[...]
Does anybody have any other advice on pros & cons of trackballs?
I'd recommend the Logitech Cordless Optical Trackman http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/mice_pointers/trackballs/devices/4751&cl=gb,en
I use it both at work and at home and am rather pleased with it. It works out of the box both under openSUSE and under windows. The only con I know of is that for a first person shooter you'll very probably want a mouse in addition to the trackball but that isn't a problem either.
Philipp
Philipp Thomas wrote:
I'd recommend the Logitech Cordless Optical Trackman http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/mice_pointers/trackballs/devices/4751&cl=gb,en
Thanks Philipp. It looks good except for one thing - I'm left-handed and it's a handed device. I don't see any mention of a left-handed version.
Cheers, Dave
I'd recommend the Logitech Cordless Optical Trackman http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/mice_pointers/trackballs/devices/4751&cl=gb,en
Thanks Philipp. It looks good except for one thing - I'm left-handed and it's a handed device. I don't see any mention of a left-handed version.
I'm not a lefty :-) but I used to have this trackball... http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/mice_pointers/trackballs/devices/4786&... Worked fine with Linux in general, and was conveniently ambidextrous. I've since switch back to a regular mouse for reasons I can't remember anymore.
C.
On Monday 21 September 2009 10:24, Clayton wrote:
I'd recommend the Logitech Cordless Optical Trackman http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/mice_pointers/trackballs/devices/4751 &cl=gb,en
Thanks Philipp. It looks good except for one thing - I'm left-handed and it's a handed device. I don't see any mention of a left-handed version.
I'm not a lefty :-) but I used to have this trackball... http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/mice_pointers/trackballs/devices/4786&... gb,en Worked fine with Linux in general, and was conveniently ambidextrous. I've since switch back to a regular mouse for reasons I can't remember anymore.
C.
I have a similar trackball, by Kensington, model 64327, wired, and I love it--actually have two, one for Linux and one for the MS machine. Unfortunately, it doesn't have a third button, but I can live with that. I think they still make this. It's optically coupled, and seems to work forever without having to wash the ball or anything. I suppose Linux can switch the left and right buttons, I'm right-handed, so I wouldn't know.
--doug
* Dave Howorth (dhoworth@mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk) [20090921 16:21]:
Thanks Philipp. It looks good except for one thing - I'm left-handed and it's a handed device. I don't see any mention of a left-handed version.
Most logitech devices are handed and had I known that you're left-handed I wouldn't have recommended it. But searching for trackballs I also found http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/mice_pointers/trackballs/devices/4786&... though I have no personal experience with it.
Cheers Philipp
Philipp Thomas wrote:
- Dave Howorth (dhoworth@mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk) [20090921 16:21]:
Thanks Philipp. It looks good except for one thing - I'm left-handed and it's a handed device. I don't see any mention of a left-handed version.
Most logitech devices are handed and had I known that you're left-handed I wouldn't have recommended it. But searching for trackballs I also found http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/mice_pointers/trackballs/devices/4786&... though I have no personal experience with it.
Sorry, Philipp, I guess I should have mentioned handedness but really, manufacturers shouldn't discriminate as they do! I think that is the same one as Clayton mentioned, and perhaps similar to the one Per used. My question about that one - and I don't see a spec sheet - is how it does scrolling as well as 3-button operation. Also, is drag lock worth having?
Cheers, Dave
On Monday 21 Sep 2009 16:03:51 Philipp Thomas wrote:
- Dave Howorth (dhoworth@mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk) [20090921 16:21]:
Thanks Philipp. It looks good except for one thing - I'm left-handed and it's a handed device. I don't see any mention of a left-handed version.
Most logitech devices are handed and had I known that you're left-handed I wouldn't have recommended it. But searching for trackballs I also found http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/mice_pointers/trackballs/devices/4786&... GB,EN though I have no personal experience with it.
Cheers Philipp
Hi .
I use one of the affore mentioned Marble Mouse and have done for the last three years if memory serves me excellent device comfortable to use and dead reliable used on 10.0. , 10.3 11.0 11.1 and now 11.2 But i have to say that in 11.2 i have been unable to get C&P to function correctly between say a browser window (latest Firefox 3.5.x) and email or an xterm .
Pete .
Philipp Thomas wrote:
- Dave Howorth (dhoworth@mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk) [20090921 12:35]:
I've decided to try a trackball instead of my 3-button-scrollwheel mouse and a quick bit of searching came up with the Kensington Expert Mouse as a likely candidate http://us.kensington.com/html/2200.html.
[...]
Does anybody have any other advice on pros & cons of trackballs?
I'd recommend the Logitech Cordless Optical Trackman
http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/mice_pointers/trackballs/devices/4751&cl=gb,en
I use one of these too, but I have also just had the second one warranty-repaired, i.e. replaced.
The only con I know of is that for a first person shooter you'll very probably want a mouse in addition to the trackball but that isn't a problem either.
For a trackball, the cordlessness is ridiculous and only hassle with having to change batteries etc. 10 years ago I started using Logitech Marble Trackman FX (or some such name), that was perfect, but unfortunately they stopped making those.
/Per
On 2009/09/21 17:28 (GMT+0200) Per Jessen composed:
Philipp Thomas wrote:
http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/mice_pointers/trackballs/devices/4751&cl=gb,en
This is ambidextrous, but like all current trackballs I've seen, has no apparent wheel function.
10 years ago I started using Logitech Marble Trackman FX (or some such name), that was perfect, but unfortunately they stopped making those.
I have a Marble FX. It's only for right-handed. It's the best pointing device I have, in spite of lack of a wheel function. Logitech dropped the ball by not providing an equivalent replacement when it was discontinued over 10 years ago. Last I checked eBay, they were bringing around $100USD.
Felix Miata wrote:
On 2009/09/21 17:28 (GMT+0200) Per Jessen composed:
Philipp Thomas wrote:
http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/mice_pointers/trackballs/devices/4751&cl=gb,en
This is ambidextrous, but like all current trackballs I've seen, has no apparent wheel function.
Eh? It's clearly handed and the scroll wheel can be seen to the left of the ball.
Puzzled, Dave
On 2009/09/21 17:14 (GMT+0100) Dave Howorth composed:
Felix Miata wrote:
On 2009/09/21 17:28 (GMT+0200) Per Jessen composed:
Philipp Thomas wrote:
http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/mice_pointers/trackballs/devices/4751&cl=gb,en
This is ambidextrous, but like all current trackballs I've seen, has no apparent wheel function.
Eh? It's clearly handed and the scroll wheel can be seen to the left of the ball.
Probably as a result of forgetting that Logitech product pages lock up my web browser for minutes at a time, I managed to miss that there were two logitech URLs in the thread. My comment above referred not to the Cordless Optical Trackman, but to the Trackman Marble: http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/mice_pointers/trackballs/devices/4786&...
Probably as a result of forgetting that Logitech product pages lock up my web browser for minutes at a time, I managed to miss that there were two logitech URLs in the thread. My comment above referred not to the Cordless Optical Trackman, but to the Trackman Marble: http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/mice_pointers/trackballs/devices/4786&...
not specifically replying to anyone here, but for what it is worth, I swear by the MS Trackball Optical. But they stopped making 'em in 2002 - mine is getting a little long in the tooth - hope it doesn't die..
Felix Miata wrote:
On 2009/09/21 17:28 (GMT+0200) Per Jessen composed:
Philipp Thomas wrote:
http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/mice_pointers/trackballs/devices/4751&cl=gb,en
This is ambidextrous, but like all current trackballs I've seen, has no apparent wheel function.
10 years ago I started using Logitech Marble Trackman FX (or some such name), that was perfect, but unfortunately they stopped making those.
I have a Marble FX. It's only for right-handed. It's the best pointing device I have, in spite of lack of a wheel function. Logitech dropped the ball by not providing an equivalent replacement when it was discontinued over 10 years ago. Last I checked eBay, they were bringing around $100USD.
I've been through three of those, the last one being second hand from ebay. Wrt wheel function, I thought there was a button to press to make the ball produce a scrolling signal. I never got used to it though.
/Per
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