21 Dec
2008
21 Dec
'08
10:23
installed it yesterday on my brand new thinkpad, and most of the basic
stuff seems to be working : tested the wired/wireless connection :ok.
can write DVD's, sound is ok, hibernation and sleep : ok , sdcard reader
: ok, and last but not least, video graphics, weel that's a special case
with this laptop, it includes 2 graphic controller : 1 discrete, the ati
hd3650 and am integrated controller , intel mobile GM45 express chipset.
i knew i wasn't going to get this switchable graphics thing in order...
by default, the installation chooses the intel chipset. which works ok,
but doesn't give you the power of the ATI. i changed the bios setting to
discrete graphics ( swichable off ). when booted into command line, i
could run sax and it installed the correct ATI drivers. but the next
reboot set me back to the intel chipset, and indeed the bios was back to
switchable graphics enabled ?
jef peeraer
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jef peeraer wrote:
installed it yesterday on my brand new thinkpad, and
most of the basic
stuff seems to be working : tested the wired/wireless connection :ok.
can write DVD's, sound is ok, hibernation and sleep : ok , sdcard reader
: ok, and last but not least, video graphics, weel that's a special case
with this laptop, it includes 2 graphic controller : 1 discrete, the ati
hd3650 and am integrated controller , intel mobile GM45 express chipset.
i knew i wasn't going to get this switchable graphics thing in order...
by default, the installation chooses the intel chipset. which works ok,
but doesn't give you the power of the ATI. i changed the bios setting to
discrete graphics ( swichable off ). when booted into command line, i
could run sax and it installed the correct ATI drivers. but the next
reboot set me back to the intel chipset, and indeed the bios was back to
switchable graphics enabled ?
jef peeraer
update : the issue with the bios seems ok now, i checked the xorg log
,
and the ati driver is indeed loaded, however sax still shows that the
graphics card is the intel chipset. so it's probably a bug in sax
somewhere ....
jef peeraer
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New subject: [opensuse] Unable to boot OpenSUSE 11.1
Hi all,
I recently installed openSUSE 11.1 on my multiboot system. I have four
OS and every one is booted from a boot partition, with 10.3, had no
problems to boot. The following are the lines under my menu.lst for
booting openSUSE:
title OpenSUSE 11.1
root (hd0,5)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz
root=/dev/disk/by-id/ata-TOSHIBA_MK2035GSS_17PRT0NKT-part6 vga=0x317
resume=/dev/disk/by-id/ata-TOSHIBA_MK2035GSS_17PRT0NKT-part5
splash=silent showopts
initrd /boot/initrd
vmlinuz and initrd are symbolic links to the vmlinuz-2.6.27.7-9-pae and
initrd-2.6.27.7-9-pae respectively. I also tries to change the device by
id to /dev/sdax but it didn't work. I got the following error message
from grub "error 2: bad file or directory type" I also tried to change
the symlinks to pint to the files but no luck.
The other systems boot normally just openSUSE is giving me that issue.
By the way, the first booting performed by the system after openSUSE
11.1 installation ran without problems.
Any ideas on what to do?
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New subject: [opensuse] Unable to boot OpenSUSE 11.1
On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 01:07, Fernando Costa <jfcosta1(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi all,
I recently installed openSUSE 11.1 on my multiboot system. I have four OS
and every one is booted from a boot partition, with 10.3, had no problems to
boot. The following are the lines under my menu.lst for booting openSUSE:
[snip -
grub entry]
I got the following error message from grub
"error 2: bad file or directory type" I also tried to change the symlinks to
pint to the files but no luck.
The other systems boot normally just openSUSE is giving me that issue.
Did you ever
install oS11 on that machine? I am a relative newbie to oS
so take what I write with a pinch of salt. Having got that out of the way, oS
booting 'changed' with oS 11. You can no longer use 'olde' grub to
boot it.
I chain load to the oS 11 grub and boot from there. Unfortunately, my home
machine is in the 'garage' for servicing, so I can't post my grub. I
do think that
if you install the oS11 grub, you should be able to boot the other systems with
that. However, you'll have to experiment a bit.
HTH
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2008/12/22 ne... <guhvies(a)gmail.com>om>:
On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 01:07, Fernando Costa
<jfcosta1(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
Did you ever install oS11 on that machine? I am a
relative newbie to oS
so take what I write with a pinch of salt. Having got that out of the way, oS
booting 'changed' with oS 11. You can no longer use 'olde' grub to
boot it.
I chain load to the oS 11 grub and boot from there.
I have booted OS 11.1 using GRUB provided in OS 10.3, and SuSE 8.2
even, this worked excatly as I expected. So I think your issue was
due to something else.
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15:35
New subject: [opensuse] Kensington Trackball anyone?
Trying to get the trackball buttons set correctly (four bottons + scroll
ring), .. 11.1 detects an "ImExPS/2 Generic Explorer Mouse". (Tested all
the other drivers in 11.0 with no difference.) Motion is OK, and THE
SCROLL RING WORKS, but the buttons are scrambled.
Tried setting ButtonOrder in Xorg.conf, but none of
the selectable PS/2
drivers recognized them in 11.0.
Tried using xev to remap the buttons, but the indices
are not consistant
- for example, the top right bottom (h/w 3 = right click) comes
up as
**8**, and no driver will accept 8 buttons.
Finally did a reinstall with 11.1, but find no differences. f anyone has a
working config or any pointers it would be GREATLY appeciated.
TIA,
Lee
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10:34
New subject: [opensuse] Kensington Trackball anyone?
In the dim and distant past, L. V. Lammert wrote:
Trying to get the trackball buttons set correctly
(four bottons + scroll
ring), .. 11.1 detects an "ImExPS/2 Generic Explorer Mouse". (Tested all
the other drivers in 11.0 with no difference.) Motion is OK, and THE
SCROLL RING WORKS, but the buttons are scrambled.
I've decided to try a trackball instead of my 3-button-scrollwheel mouse
and a quick bit of searching came up with the Kensington Expert Mouse as
a likely candidate <http://us.kensington.com/html/2200.html>.
It sounds like the device Lee described in this message, so I'm
interested to know whether you eventually got it working? Does anybody
have any other advice on pros & cons of trackballs?
Thanks, Dave
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Tried setting ButtonOrder in Xorg.conf, but none
of the selectable PS/2
drivers recognized them in 11.0.
Tried using xev to remap the buttons, but the
indices are not consistant
- for example, the top right bottom (h/w 3 = right
click) comes up as
**8**, and no driver will accept 8 buttons.
Finally did a reinstall with 11.1, but find no differences. f anyone has a
working config or any pointers it would be GREATLY appeciated. 
14:10
New subject: [opensuse] Kensington Trackball anyone?
* Dave Howorth (dhoworth(a)mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk) [20090921 12:35]:
I've decided to try a trackball instead of my
3-button-scrollwheel mouse
and a quick bit of searching came up with the Kensington Expert Mouse as
a likely candidate <http://us.kensington.com/html/2200.html>.
[...]
Does anybody have any other advice on pros & cons
of trackballs?
I'd recommend the Logitech Cordless Optical Trackman
<http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/mice_pointers/trackballs/devices/4751&cl=gb,en>
I use it both at work and at home and am rather pleased with it. It works
out of the box both under openSUSE and under windows. The only con I know
of is that for a first person shooter you'll very probably want a mouse in
addition to the trackball but that isn't a problem either.
Philipp
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14:20
New subject: [opensuse] Kensington Trackball anyone?
Philipp Thomas wrote:
I'd recommend the Logitech Cordless Optical
Trackman
<http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/mice_pointers/trackballs/devices/4751&cl=gb,en>
Thanks Philipp. It looks good except for one thing - I'm left-handed and
it's a handed device. I don't see any mention of a left-handed version.
Cheers, Dave
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14:24
New subject: [opensuse] Kensington Trackball anyone?
I'd
recommend the Logitech Cordless Optical Trackman
<http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/mice_pointers/trackballs/devices/4751&cl=gb,en>
Thanks Philipp. It looks good except for one thing - I'm left-handed and
it's a handed device. I don't see any mention of a left-handed version. 
23:20
New subject: [opensuse] Kensington Trackball anyone?
On Monday 21 September 2009 10:24, Clayton wrote:
I'm not a lefty :-) but I used to have this trackball...
http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/mice_pointers/trackballs/devices/4786&…
gb,en Worked fine with Linux in general, and was conveniently ambidextrous.
I've since switch back to a regular mouse for reasons I can't remember
anymore.
C.
I have a similar trackball, by Kensington, model 64327, wired, and I love
it--actually have two, one for Linux and one for the MS machine.
Unfortunately, it doesn't have a third button, but I can live with that. I
think they still make this. It's optically coupled, and seems to work
forever without having to wash the ball or anything. I suppose Linux
can switch the left and right buttons, I'm right-handed, so I wouldn't
know.
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I'd recommend the Logitech Cordless Optical
Trackman
<http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/mice_pointers/trackballs/devices/4751
&cl=gb,en>
Thanks Philipp. It looks good except for one thing - I'm left-handed and
it's a handed device. I don't see any mention of a left-handed version.
15:03
New subject: [opensuse] Kensington Trackball anyone?
* Dave Howorth (dhoworth(a)mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk) [20090921 16:21]:
Thanks Philipp. It looks good except for one thing -
I'm left-handed and
it's a handed device. I don't see any mention of a left-handed version.
Most logitech devices are handed and had I known that you're left-handed I
wouldn't have recommended it. But searching for trackballs I also found
http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/mice_pointers/trackballs/devices/4786&…
though I have no personal experience with it.
Cheers
Philipp
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15:55
New subject: [opensuse] Kensington Trackball anyone?
Philipp Thomas wrote:
* Dave Howorth (dhoworth(a)mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk) [20090921
16:21]:
Sorry, Philipp, I guess I should have mentioned handedness but really,
manufacturers shouldn't discriminate as they do! I think that is the
same one as Clayton mentioned, and perhaps similar to the one Per used.
My question about that one - and I don't see a spec sheet - is how it
does scrolling as well as 3-button operation. Also, is drag lock worth
having?
Cheers, Dave
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Thanks Philipp. It looks good except for one
thing - I'm left-handed and
it's a handed device. I don't see any mention of a left-handed version.
Most logitech devices are handed and had I known that you're left-handed I
wouldn't have recommended it. But searching for trackballs I also found
http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/mice_pointers/trackballs/devices/4786&…
though I have no personal experience with it. 
17:02
New subject: [opensuse] Kensington Trackball anyone?
On Monday 21 Sep 2009 16:03:51 Philipp Thomas wrote:
* Dave Howorth (dhoworth(a)mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk) [20090921
16:21]:
Hi .
I use one of the affore mentioned Marble Mouse and have done for the last
three years if memory serves me excellent device comfortable to use and dead
reliable used on 10.0. , 10.3 11.0 11.1 and now 11.2 But i have to say
that in 11.2 i have been unable to get C&P to function correctly between say
a browser window (latest Firefox 3.5.x) and email or an xterm .
Pete .
Thanks Philipp. It looks good except for one
thing - I'm left-handed and
it's a handed device. I don't see any mention of a left-handed version.
Most logitech devices are handed and had I known that you're left-handed I
wouldn't have recommended it. But searching for trackballs I also found
http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/mice_pointers/trackballs/devices/4786&…
GB,EN though I have no personal experience with it.
Cheers
Philipp 
15:28
New subject: [opensuse] Kensington Trackball anyone?
Philipp Thomas wrote:
I use one of these too, but I have also just had the second one
warranty-repaired, i.e. replaced.
* Dave Howorth (dhoworth(a)mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk) [20090921
12:35]:
<http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/mice_pointers/trackballs/devices/4751&cl=gb,en>
I've decided to try a trackball instead of
my 3-button-scrollwheel
mouse and a quick bit of searching came up with the Kensington Expert
Mouse as a likely candidate
<http://us.kensington.com/html/2200.html>.
[...]
Does anybody have any other advice on pros &
cons of trackballs?
I'd recommend the Logitech Cordless Optical Trackman
The only con I know of is that for a first person
shooter you'll very
probably want a mouse in addition to the trackball but that isn't a
problem either.
For a trackball, the cordlessness is ridiculous and only hassle with
having to change batteries etc. 10 years ago I started using Logitech
Marble Trackman FX (or some such name), that was perfect, but
unfortunately they stopped making those.
/Per
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16:07
New subject: [opensuse] Kensington Trackball anyone?
On 2009/09/21 17:28 (GMT+0200) Per Jessen composed:
Philipp Thomas wrote:
<http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/mice_pointers/trackballs/devices/4751&cl=gb,en>
This is ambidextrous, but like all current trackballs I've seen, has no
apparent wheel function.
10 years ago I started using Logitech
Marble Trackman FX (or some such name), that was perfect, but
unfortunately they stopped making those.
I have a Marble FX. It's only for right-handed. It's the best pointing device
I have, in spite of lack of a wheel function. Logitech dropped the ball by
not providing an equivalent replacement when it was discontinued over 10
years ago. Last I checked eBay, they were bringing around $100USD.
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16:14
New subject: [opensuse] Kensington Trackball anyone?
Felix Miata wrote:
On 2009/09/21 17:28 (GMT+0200) Per Jessen composed:
Eh? It's clearly handed and the scroll wheel can be seen to the left of
the ball.
Puzzled, Dave
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Philipp Thomas wrote:
<http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/mice_pointers/trackballs/devices/4751&cl=gb,en>
This is ambidextrous, but like all current trackballs I've seen, has no
apparent wheel function.
17:04
New subject: [opensuse] Kensington Trackball anyone?
On 2009/09/21 17:14 (GMT+0100) Dave Howorth composed:
Felix Miata wrote:
> On 2009/09/21 17:28 (GMT+0200) Per Jessen
composed:
>> Philipp Thomas wrote:
>>
<http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/mice_pointers/trackballs/devices/4751&cl=gb,en>
> This is ambidextrous, but like all current
trackballs I've seen, has no
> apparent wheel function.
Eh? It's clearly handed and the scroll wheel can
be seen to the left of
the ball.
Probably as a result of forgetting that Logitech product pages lock up my web
browser for minutes at a time, I managed to miss that there were two logitech
URLs in the thread. My comment above referred not to the Cordless Optical
Trackman, but to the Trackman Marble:
http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/mice_pointers/trackballs/devices/4786&…
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New subject: [opensuse] Kensington Trackball anyone?
Probably as a result of forgetting that Logitech product pages lock up my web
browser for minutes at a time, I managed to miss that there were two logitech
URLs in the thread. My comment above referred not to the Cordless Optical
Trackman, but to the Trackman Marble:
http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/mice_pointers/trackballs/devices/4786&…
not specifically replying to anyone here, but for what it is worth, I swear by the MS
Trackball Optical. But they stopped making 'em in 2002 - mine is getting a little
long in the tooth - hope it doesn't die..
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New subject: [opensuse] Kensington Trackball anyone?
Felix Miata wrote:
On 2009/09/21 17:28 (GMT+0200) Per Jessen composed:
<http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/mice_pointers/trackballs/devices/4751&cl=gb,en>
Philipp Thomas wrote:
>
This is ambidextrous, but like all current trackballs I've seen, has
no apparent wheel function.
I've been through three of those, the last one being second hand from
ebay. Wrt wheel function, I thought there was a button to press to
make the ball produce a scrolling signal. I never got used to it
though.
/Per
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10 years ago I started using Logitech
Marble Trackman FX (or some such name), that was perfect, but
unfortunately they stopped making those.
I have a Marble FX. It's only for right-handed. It's the best pointing
device I have, in spite of lack of a wheel function. Logitech dropped
the ball by not providing an equivalent replacement when it was
discontinued over 10 years ago. Last I checked eBay, they were
bringing around $100USD.
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